Jason Peters is a gutless coward

by sireric on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 PM EDT Comment 81 comments

With Jason Peters finally getting his wish and getting traded out of Buffalo, it is now apparent that his sole objective the entire time was simply that: Getting out of Buffalo. He held out all of last off season and refused to answer the Bills phone calls, leaving the Bills completely baffled as to his true intentions. After returning and having a substandard year, he then tells the Bills that unless he becomes the highest paid LT in the NFL he will hold out until week ten to ensure that it will cover the contract year. After being traded to the Eagles earlier today he then signs a 6 year $55 Million dollar deal. Well that doesn't make him the highest paid LT in the NFL now does it? So that means that his real intention was to get out of Buffalo.

At some point LAST YEAR, Peters should have been man enough to go into Dick Jauron's office and say, "Coach, I no longer want to be here, trade me, I want out." He doesn't have to tell him why, he doesn't have to sit down and have a heart to heart with DJ. All he has to do is tell Jauron that he no longer wants to be a Buffalo Bill. The Bills could then have adjusted their draft plans accordingly and with Peters coming off of a much better season and without the crazy contract demands possibly netted the Bills a much better haul in return.They could have drafted Ryan Clady or Brandon Albert. Instead Peters never had the courage to tell anyone his true feelings, he sat at home huddled in a corner afraid to answer his phone because the person on the other end might ask, "So Jason, what's the problem?"

Because Jason Peters is a coward, and not man enough to let the Bills know that he really just wanted out of Buffalo, he left them guessing and unable to plan for his departure until a week before the draft. It isn't enough to not want to play for the team, you have to screw them also?

There was a fanpost put up earlier asking who is the most hated Bill of all time. I now nominate Jason Peters. Because of his gutlessness, and complete cowardice he hurt the Buffalo Bills. Not out of malice, but because he was afraid to say that he wanted out. As a Bills fan, I can't say that I understand his desire to want out, but that is his prerogative and if he handled it like a man and without disrepecting the organization, the same organization that showed faith in him enough to give him a nice pay increase the year before, that would be a different story. He chose to hurt the franchise. He chose to handle this situatrion in a way that it would handicap the team.

Jason Peter you are a coward. Good ridance.

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actually, ESPN is reporting that he is now the highest paid OL in NFL history

by dzil on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

6 years at $55 million, is about $9.15 per year. He was telling the Bills he wanted over 10.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 17, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree 100%, but they’re calling a 4 year $50 mil extension. Maybe just a case of OBD not being smart enough to smoke and mirror the big dummy.

by dzil on Apr 18, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He actually got a four year extension on his current salary. The four year extension is worth $55mil. Makes him the highest paid OL ever.

by Bob on Apr 18, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RIght but we would have offered him that....

they are still paying the rest of the salary so it’s essentially 6 years 60M. It’s still 10M a year average. He will never be the highest paid O Lineman in the game.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No we didn't really offer him that

not really, we offer him a 6 year, 58.5M dollar deal at 9.75 per seaon and it would trump his old onctract entirely. The Eagles keep the last 2 years of his current contract, then add on a 4 year, 53M dollar extention.

Hers what both contracts look like when you put salery up against the cap.

Year 1 2 3 4 5 6
Buffalo 9.75 9.75 9.75 9.75 9.75 9.75
Philly 3.5 3.5 13.25 13.25 13.25 13.25

The Philly deal literally does make him the highest paid OL in NFL history… or at least he will be in 2 years. Which is also a brilliant move from the Eagles. If he doesn’t pan out, or disapoints them (which i think he will) then they can cut him before the 13.25M seasons start. Peters has 2 years to prove his worth before he gets big money and the Eagles have 2 years to decided whether or not he’s worth it. My bet is Peters is cut in either 2 or 3 years.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah is that really the case? Peters will still only make 3.5 mil each of the next two years?

If that is so, I can see Peters really being the one who ends up getting screwed here.

by thefourwinds on Apr 18, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, CBF, but that’s not how it would work. A) the Bills would never have structured it so that he had the same amount of money every year; they would have front-loaded with bonus money, like they did with Lee Evans. B) I have not seen anywhere that the first two years of Peters’ contract are completely preserved, and my hunch is that they weren’t.

Either way… I’m past caring. Jason Peters is now a part of the past to me. Ready for the draft next weekend!

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have heard speculation that is was both...

one source says extension, another says new contract. We’ll have to wait and see.

I agree the BIlls would not have done it that way either… as I made clear much earlier in the offseason. I just don’t know how much they would have had to use for 2009.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same here, I herd both options, and I decided to go with the option that actually does make Peters the highest paid OL of all time. And yes i do know that the Bills would not structure the deal that way, and that neither would the Eagles, even in my scenario, but because I have no clue what the structuring ould look like, I just pluged in the average per year salery.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

John Clayton is reporting it as an extension.

so I’ll go with that.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus it’s the option that is most likely to backfire in Peters’ face, which is another reason why I like it the most.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

25 million guaranteed. what’s there to backfire?

by dzil on Apr 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

25 million isn’t 60.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ticky tacky...

He’s up there.

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Apr 19, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I'd like to diss on Peters more too. Feels good now that we know rather than speculating so much... Best that can happen now...

Is that all three of the picks we gained turn into Pro-Bowlers themselves. Time will tell how this works out. We’ll just have to be patient. Again, I think we should tally his sacks and penalties throughout the year.

by dabillsr1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Peters hasn’t ever shown any desire to play for anything but money. Now that he’s got it, I think he’ll improve somewhat from last year, just from the benefits of training camp, but don’t think the Eagles are getting the LT they think they are.

by Mark Parisi on Apr 17, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You took the words right out of my mouth.

And may we never speak of Peters again… until he lets Osi Umenyiora past him and gets McNabbs collerbone get broken… or elbow… or ankle… or whatever… then we can mention Peters name and laugh histaricly.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 17, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I, for one, cannot wait for Jason Peters’ comments on how the whole thing went down. I’d be willing to bet his new salary that he says he didn’t want to get traded, wanted to work things out, and that he didn’t intend to hold out.

I’ll be very curious to see if he at least thanks the organization for taking a chance on him when no other teams did.

by Mark Parisi on Apr 17, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Probably not, I just don't think a mercenary like him would even bother with that much PR goodness

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Apr 18, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I, for one, cannot wait for Jason Peters’ comments on how the whole thing went down

That makes two of us.

Sireric – completely agreed on the whole article here. Ditto, ditoo, ditto….

by krytime on Apr 18, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’ll probably say how glad he his to be able to move on and focus on his career and development. He’s a good player, but, again, he’s not irreplaceable.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 18, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree on one point

Not out of malice, but because he was afraid to say that he wanted out

I think it was out of malice. The Bills FO dared to not give him a new contract last year and made him play for peanuts. Then, they had the nerve to not make him the highest paid LT in the league. I think Peters was extremely pissed and set out to screw the Bills as hard as he could on the way out. To a large extent, he got everything he wanted.

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by Joe P. on Apr 18, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You could be right, but for my own reasons I like labeling him a coward better then a jerk who set out to screw the Bills and got what he wanted.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 18, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Bob on Apr 18, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he got everything he wanted

Including a new reputating of biggest a-hole amongst former Bills. I don’t care what TO does all season long, he can’t even come close to being as much of an a-hole than Peters was.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can say that again, ‘cause that’s the 2 of us.

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by moncheri on Apr 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t make Owens into the type of Bill he isn’t yet. I think some of this whole fiasco boiled down to the fact that this guy was NEVER going to be a team player, and he was giving the wrong message to the other players. Let’s hope the rest of the locker room sees this as a blessing in disguise.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 18, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He got what he wanted – $. That was his objective.

Let’s re-evaluate after the season, I’m sure it will be obvious. Good luck with Ware and Osi!

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 18, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good luck with no Left Tackle

(for us)

McCoverage- McGee and McKelvin :D

by Toronto? on Apr 18, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It won't be a $60 Million dollar difference, that's for sure

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 18, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Losman looks good in comparison

For all of the bile spewed Losman’s way, he said he wanted out then shut his mouth and played out his deal.

by Ron From NM on Apr 18, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That he did, heck I've always disliked McGahee intensely, but Peters now tops my book of disliked players

by a very large margin.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Apr 18, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

6 years $60 million

That’s what PFT is reporting. It looks like Peters got his 8 figures.

by Ron From NM on Apr 18, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank God he is gone………. i got tired of him crying about money when his play to me didn’t reflect what he was wanting. I’m not really sure if they got fair compensation for him, but hey, at least the coaching staff doesn’t have to worry anymore about a possible hold out.

Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 18, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

see ya............

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 18, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Completely 100% Disagree

With Jason Peters and his agent it was ALWAYS about money, and just that. No ifs, ands, buts or speculation.

I’m shocked at how quickly this site has turned into one giant Peters bashing. Peters is THE top talent at LT in the entire league and we just let him go because we didn’t want to give a 27 year old stud LT $10mil per year??? I was shocked how low his deal was worth, I thought for certain it would have been $12+mil. Once again, our front office has shown its incompetence, we are 8th graders playing against the Varsity squad.

To put this in more perspective…. we gave Dockery, only a left guard, someone outside of the organization, $7mil per year, in 2007. The salary cap has gone up $19mil since 2007…. and we can’t shell out $10mil per year for Peters in 2009? Wtf?

And for those people who are going to try and say he not as good as we thought he was because of 2008….. save it. He didn’t show up until a week before the season….. OF COURSE he was going to struggle!! 2007 should have been enough proof alone….

The Eagles just got a steal…. I’m real confident going into the draft with no left side of the side. Rex Ryan, Belichick, and Parchells but be licking their chops right now….

by Harris on Apr 18, 2009 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I understand where you coming from, but.......

In one aspect, it was kinda about the money, but i really think Peter’s was wanting out of Buffalo. Look at how fast he worked out the contract with the eagles, in a matter of hours. But with Buffalo, it drug on and on and on. This should tell everyone that he no longer wanted to play for the Bills, and that is the grattitude the coaching staff gets in "coaching’ him up to be even an above average tackle. I hope the Bills pick up someone in the draft that turns out better then him at the position, or if they have someone on the roster now, i hope they are better then Peter picked a basket full of pickles.

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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 18, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can I just point something out, the Bills offered him a deal equal to what Jordan Gross in Carolina got

And he turned it down, and that was worth the SAME amount as he just signed with the Eagles for. Huh, so he demands 12 a year from us, AFTER we put a deal on the table equal to what he just took in Philly. THAT to me screams he wanted out, not that it was JUST the money as your arguing.

How is that the Bills offer 10 a year a low ball when he signed for that same amount elsewhere, what are you basing your claims on man?

Of course he played bad in 2008 due to waiting till the last minute to show and get credit for the year. So whats the promise he wasn’t going to go AWOL again? Whats the promise he won’t go demanding more money again from the Eagles in 3 years? Why the hell didn’t he do what Evans did which is show up, tell the team you want a redo/extension and then work hard where they can see you so you PROVE to them you want to be part of the solution, and not a problem. He didn’t do that, period, end of story.

The Eagles, MAY have a steal out of this deal, he is now in a place a heck of a lot harder on their players than Bills fans have ever been, and if he lets McNabb get hit a couple of times early in the season, he will get torn to shreds by them. He may fold like a cheap card table.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Apr 18, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where is proof of the Bills offering him $10mil a year?

by Harris on Apr 18, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My opinion is....

They offered him about 9M a year. He was asking 12. The Buffalo News reported they were 3M apart so that’s why I use the 9M number. The scuttlebutt from inside the organization is that he did not move off his number.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very must disagree

with your statement that he is “the” top LT talent in the league. There are many out there that will tell you he is not and I agree with them. He does not play with up to his “potential”. There are many young stud LT’s in the game right now that I would very much rate over Peters. His worth will be proven once he faces the those NFC East teams twice per year.
Good luck with Osi, Ware, Tuck and even Andre Carter.

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by Hambone on Apr 18, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, i’m with you there. I can’t wait to see how many times McNabb gets sacked from the blindside.

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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 18, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys are kidding yourselves. I really hope you are just making those comments to help you feel better about our front office screwing up…. again.

2007 should be the only indication you need to have for Peters. Just asked Jim McNally what he thinks of him and his potential.

"For the next two to three years, he could be as good a lineman as there is in the league," the Bills’ offensive line coach, Jim McNally, said.

"He’s not Anthony Munoz," McNally said. "He’s 50 pounds heavier. He’s just as fast. He’s only played this position two years."

by Harris on Apr 18, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reality will catch up to you soon. Peters was a talented run blocker. One dementinal. Thats it

by Bob on Apr 18, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he was only a talented run blocker how did he only allow two sacks in 2007? His first full year playing Left Tackle ever in his life.

by Harris on Apr 18, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think both of these ideals are taking it to the extreme. We will miss Peters. He’s a good/great football player. But can we call the trade a “mistake” when it hasn’t played itself out on the field?

Snap judgments suck. Patience, padawans…

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree about the snap judgements, but i think it should improve team chemistry. Maybe we find a hidden gem among what we have already, or, one or 2 of those 3 draft choices. 2-3 years from now we will all know how it all pans out.

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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 18, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

THE top LT talent?

Elite LTs don’t give up bunches of sacks. The NFL has Peters giving up 11.5 in 13 games in 2008, almost 1 per game. I have him giving up 9.5 (2 of the sacks counted against him by the league I counted against the QB), which is about one sack every 5 quarters. To put it another way, Peters was on the field for 435 pass plays. I have him giving up a sack every 45.8 (2.2%) pass plays, while the NFL has him giving up a sack every 37.8 (2.6%) pass plays.

by Ron From NM on Apr 18, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My biggest issue with this guy was his questionable commitment to the team. He was never going to go to war for anyone in this organization. I’ll take a lesser guy on the field who buys into the organization and supports his teammates all while doing everything possible to improve his game.

When did Peters ever show the desire to work on his game, to improve his play?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 18, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's get real, Sireric.

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by jj24 on Apr 18, 2009 3:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess I too have to agree with you on that. But even though I find OJ repugnant, he never did anything intending to hurt the Bills. He was always a good ambassador for Buffalo until he murdered two people.

by krytime on Apr 18, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he could have blamed it on steriods………. but Hulk Hogan understands……LOL

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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 18, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

O.J.‘s motivation wasn’t to hurt the franchise. As reprehensible as his actions were, I can honestly say that I have never hated Juice.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 18, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same here, I may dislike the man for what he "allegedly" did according to the law

But he never did anything to hurt the Bills intentionally, and for that I do not dislike him Bills wise as much as I dislike Peters right now.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Apr 18, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would agree with you that people outside the fanbase hate him.

But people inside the fanbase, the people that know him as a running back not an actor/alleged wife killer/felon, don’t hate the guy.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OJ can’t be placed in that category. He was nothing but a stud for the Bills and he played his heart out for the team. Hatred for him has nothing to do with his career in Buffalo. Peters, McGahee…those guys really did everything possible to get outta dodge, and take the team down in the process.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 18, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if you hate o.j. it’s for what he did while not a Bill. Peters hate is for what he’s done as a Bill.

by dzil on Apr 18, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What was our cost and what did we get in return?

It is easy to get upset about having lost one of the league’s best LTs, but given his apparent desire for way more money than OBD thought he was worth and/or his determination to play elsewhere, we really did not lose anything- That Pro Bowl caliber player was gone either in body by trade or in not giving us outstanding play. Since we originally signed him as a free agent, I like to think that we took that insight from a few years back and turned in into 3 draft picks, one in the first round, and we can now draft three players who will be glad to get paid for playing in Buffalo.

by dukedoc76 on Apr 18, 2009 7:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Both sides could have played this differently... Blame E. Parker the most.

This all started because of Eugene Parker. After Peters signed him to be his agent, things went south quickly.

If Peters would have shown up to camp last year and played the entire year, chances are that he would have “really had” another probowl year. In this case, then the Bills would have been more open to making him the highest paid OL in the league. The market is dictating these numbers… Watch the OT’s that are drafted in the top 5 this year and see what money they will command and they will not have even played yet in this league (ala Jake Long).

Parker kept Peters out of camp and wouldn’t talk to the media or the Bills. Bills FO had very little choice since they made the hard line that they didn’t want to renegotiate last year during training camp and they decided to fine Peters for holding out. If the Bills would have stepped up last year, we might have had Peters under contract for 9-10 million a year or the next 5 years. Bills choose to take a hard stance instead and this is the result today.

I blame Parker cause I think if Peters played and showed an interest to being here, we could have easily given him the money like we did for Lee Evans.

Let’s hope the FO will learn from this senario and not make the same mistakes going forward. Let’s hope E. Parker doesn’t represent too many other players on our team in the future (I think he has Hardy as his player too).

by dabillsr1 on Apr 18, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree, Parker should share a lot of blame for his tactics. But where is the foresight by OBD to give Peters an extension after 2007 when you know it’s only going to save you money in the long run?

by Harris on Apr 18, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The challenge the FO faced last year was… You already gave the guy an extension that he signed for 5 yr and 15 million. He had 3 years remaining on the contract. Why should the FO be held hostage to suddenly rip up that contract and then give him a new one at top numbers?

Do players and agents rip up their contracts and give money back to owners after then have a bad year?

I think it was reasonable for the FO to believe Peters should have played for his current contract last year. I mean Peters wasn’t “That proven” when he and Parker demanded the new contract.

If Parker said to Peters, “Jason go to camp, work hard…. I trust the Bills FO will step up and make you a big contract during the year”.

Obviously, That didn’t happen. All the media and national writers last year even said that Peters was going about this the entirely wrong way. Nothing wrong with holding out for a while and show your disastifaction, but then you show up and work hard to be in great shape so you are not a detriment to the team. Peters and Parker held out way too long to be an effective player. How he got voted to another Pro Bowl is beyond me… Voting is a joke of a process

by dabillsr1 on Apr 18, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keep in mind that it was Peters and Parker who scuttled any chance of a new deal before the 2008 season. OBD maintained all along that they’d work on a new deal once he reported.

by Ron From NM on Apr 18, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The wall of silence technique employed by Peters is what did a deal in....

nothing else. If he wanted a new deal, he never asked for it. He simply didn’t show up.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They had just signed him to a 5 year extension. He was on year 1 of that deal.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 18, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s exactly the point, OBD is a bunch of stubborn men who completely undervalued Peters. How can you look one of your most talented employees in the eyes and say you’re not worth $10mil per year? Only two years after giving Dockery, a left guard non-pro bowler $7mil mind you….

And don’t start with the conspiracy theories about how he didn’t want to be in Buffalo. It’s about money, period. He would have been happier than a pig in sh*t if we would have done the right thing and gave him an extension.

by Harris on Apr 18, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just because you don’t agree with an opinion does not make said opinion “conspiracy theory”…

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You keep saying it...

but you don’t know what they offered him or what his offer was to the organization. Would your opinion of OBD or Peters change if you knew he received an offer of 10M a year?

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally I agree with points of your post sireric – but for me, the only thing I would have wanted him to do differently is what you pointed out – to tell the brass that he didn’t want to play there so they could formulate a plan. When you, basically, screw over the team that gives you your chance and developes you it kind of makes you look like an unselfish child – or someone that is not strong enough to face reality and confront the brass to tell them his wishes.

Some people have the dignity and integrity to do such things – Jason Peters does not

The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.

by J2 on Apr 18, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed!!

Very gutless. The Bills made him something and he threw it back in their face. He was never grateful of how they made him a good LT. Peters isn’t elite by any means and personally I think it works out just like the Clements deal. Too much money for an AVERAGE player. AVERAGE period. I think the Bills know that he is average and hit his ceiling, I really want to see Bell ASAP and see how far he has come!!

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Apr 18, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I do wonder if he’s hit his ceiling. Doubtful, but it is something to consider, given his lower IQ compared with similar linemen. This isn’t a knock on him as being dumb, but the fact of the matter is he scored horrible on the wonderlic and usually most OL players have an above average IQ.

His run blocking will be missed but his pass blocking needed to improve, and much of that (in my eyes) stems from his inability to adjust to and understand certain types of plays.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 18, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

on paper, I guess our run game was average, but why were we so bad on third/fourth and short when the game actually mattered?

by PWilliams on Apr 18, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Eric, how about those Rangers?

Impressive game today. Ovy was almost a none factor.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ovy was almost a none factor.

Who? (j/k)

Feeling pretty good heading back to NY up 2-0

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 18, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now if only my Habs can get back to MTL 1-1 I’ll be happy.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jason Peters is indeed a gutless coward.

But I have to wonder now what the quality and quantity of communication with him were leading up to this rebellion. Was there a lack of communication that led to his conduct? Did he get POed just because he did not get a contract last year? How good is this front office at communication skills? Makes me wonder.
Also, much as the Bills are now gun shy at taking a Texas player due to the Williams fiasco, I’d steer mighty clear of any player, no matter how good, who has Eugene Parker as an agent. He is trouble with a capital T.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Apr 18, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He is trouble with a capital T.

And that rhymes with P and that stands for Pool.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 18, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They’ers trouble in River City!

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Apr 19, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I have to wonder now what the quality and quantity of communication with him were leading up to this rebellion.

Like when he just didn’t show up without telling anybody why. If there was a lack of communication, it was entirely one-sided. The Bills have taken care of players and done contract extensions with Kelsay, Schobel, Evans, and a lot of other players. Agree with some of those signings are not the Bills are not against giving fair market value to players who earn it.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if Peters had even average intelligence…
1. he would have kept in decent physical condition while holding out.
2. would have at least returned phone calls from OBD while he was holding out.
3. would have been able to actually negotiate a deal versus making one demand and that’s it.
4. would have had a press conference by now.

the problem with Jason Peters is that he is a simple tool that has complete trust in his agent.

bring on the twinkies and philly steaks!!!

by dzil on Apr 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs