Rumblings Authors Mock, V2.1 - Galliford's Take, post-Peters
Jason Peters is now a Philadelphia Eagle. The Buffalo Bills are beginning the process of replacing the two-time Pro Bowl left tackle. I'd like to think I had a minuscule effect in making the trade happen. (No, I'm really not that delusional.)
Early on Friday, I posted what I thought would be my final Bills-centric mock draft prior to next weekend's NFL Draft. Then Peters was traded, and that went out the window. Kind of. I did project a Peters trade to Philadelphia in the mock, only slightly underestimating compensation (I traded Peters for Nos. 28 and 141; the Bills actually grabbed Nos. 28 and 121, plus another pick in 2010).
There isn't a lot of work to do to my mock, therefore, in re-adjusting. Once again, this is my last installment in the Rumblings Authors Mock series, which the rest of our editors will join in on once they make necessary adjustments as well. There are some tweaks from yesterday, however - and again, I'll put forth a mock without trades (directly below) and one with another, bolder projected trade (after the jump).
MOCK ONE: NO TRADES
To repeat yesterday's sentiment: this draft is not meant to read as "what Galliford would do," but instead as "what Galliford thinks the Bills could do." (You're free to speculate on whether I'm just covering my butt.) With two new picks, here's how I see it unfolding a week from today...
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
I'll say it again: if Alabama OT Andre Smith is available, he's the pick. If he somehow slips past pick six or seven, I think the Bills will seriously consider moving up a few spots to take him. I don't think Smith lasts past the Bengals, however, so the Bills will move onto option B - Ayers, a player that I am guessing would hold priority over Michael Oher. With Chris Kelsay reportedly on the trade block, I feel more confident than ever that Ayers is the draft prospect most likely to end up in a Bills uniform.
1-28: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
The Bills, with nine draft picks, have a bit more flexibility than they did this time yesterday - and if a prospect they like slides, I think they'll make themselves bendy. If Smith is the pick at 11, they'll cross their fingers and rain dance to the football gods that Ayers, Pettigrew or USC's Clay Matthews falls to them. If any of them slides into the mid-20 range - and clearly, I'm predicting Pettigrew to be that player - I think the Bills will move up to get him (but only if they haven't moved up for Smith).
2-42: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
I think it's fairly obvious that the Bills will take an OT on day one this year. It's not a lock by any means, but it's a probability. I don't think the team will mind waiting a bit to find a prospect, however, as the team does like its current tackle trio of Langston Walker, Kirk Chambers and Demetrius Bell. Cadogan, however, is a solid athletic specimen that flashed dominance at Penn State. He needs to get stronger and probably isn't an immediate starter, but his upside is fairly significant, and his intangibles are through the roof.
3-75: Jonathan Luigs, G/C, Arkansas
Still in need of an offensive guard, Luigs is another high-upside interior lineman with excellent athleticism and a nasty streak. More importantly, he's got a ton of starting experience for a productive team in the SEC. He might not be an immediate starter, either, but he's got the attitude and work ethic to eventually be a top-flight guard in this league. That's tough to pass up in the third round.
4-110: Gerald McRath, LB, Southern Miss
It's always difficult to predict what type of linebacker the Bills will pursue - will they take the big-bodied, downhill run defenders or the light-footed, undersized pass defenders? In McRath, they get a little of both - he's a middle linebacker by trade with the athletic chops to man the weak side in a 4-3 scheme. He's been over-hyped a bit in terms of draft status, and it's not a lock that he would be available this late (though he certainly could be). I think he'd be a good fit as a SAM linebacker in Buffalo, though he's not by any means an immediate starter.
4-121: Lardarius Webb, CB, Nicholls State
I have and will continue to believe that the Bills will add a sixth corner in this draft. Webb is a fast-rising prospect with good ball skills, an aggressive demeanor and some return ability. He's good value here, and if Roscoe Parrish is traded (spoiler alert?), his value is even higher.
5-147: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
Buffalo had Irvin in for a pre-draft visit - which doesn't mean a lot, but it doesn't mean nothing, either. At this point in the draft, he would represent solid value - and the team would like to add some competition to kick John McCargo into gear (though that's clearly not a high priority). Irvin is an underrated athlete that's quick in the short area. He can cause some problems as a penetrator. The Bills should seriously consider investing in the long-term future of the DT position with Marcus Stroud on the wrong side of 30, but if they do, it likely won't be too early in the draft.
6-183: Roger Allen, OG, Missouri Western
Allen was a dominant force at a very small school. The Bills have shown a willingness to invest in those types of prospects on draft day with the recent selections of RB Xavier Omon and OT Demetrius Bell. Allen's potential is solid, and he plays the game the right way for a guard - mean.
7-220: Marcus McClinton, S, Kentucky
I'm not so certain the Bills will take two defensive backs this year, but it's not like they haven't in the past. McClinton doesn't have a lot of experience and has some character concerns, but athletically he's very gifted. At this point in the draft, things are a bit of a crapshoot - McClinton would be an interesting developmental option at a position in which all five players will be free agents within the next two years.
That does it for the no-trades mock. I don't think, however, the Bills are done wheeling and dealing - and for the record, if this mock is a catalyst for another Buffalo trade, I'll happily tinker again! Head on in past the jump for a trade scenario that would help the Bills add a veteran presence to their offensive line...
MOCK TWO: PARRISH TRADED
I still think that WR Roscoe Parrish will generate solid interest on the trade market - and armed with more draft picks, the Bills will have some flexibility to either maneuver on draft day or make a trade for a veteran of their own. That's exactly what I'm doing here in a bolder trade prediction that I made yesterday.
I think the Bills send Parrish and their first fourth-round pick (No. 110 overall) to Kansas City for disgruntled OG Brian Waters. No one is really sure if Waters is still available via trade, but Chiefs GM Scott Pioli isn't one to blatantly not listen to trade offers. The Chiefs lack explosiveness offensively and on special teams, and we all saw how QB Matt Cassel fared with WR Wes Welker - a player similar to Parrish in many respects - in New England. The Chiefs are in good position to help their line with the third overall pick, and with an extra pick (they're missing a second rounder after acquiring Cassel and Mike Vrabel), I think they'd happily take the fourth along with Parrish. Waters would fortify the interior of the Bills' line, provide a bit of veteran leadership to a unit that could use it, and takes care of a need without spending an arm and a leg.
With Parrish and No. 110 gone and Brian Waters our new starting left guard, here's how the mock unfolds...
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
No change from above - Ayers is Plan B to Alabama OT Andre Smith. In this scenario, however, I don't think a move up for Smith is as serious a consideration as it was when they had nine picks. Ayers is a fine consolation prize.
1-28: Louis Delmas, SS, Western Michigan
Again, now that they've traded a pick, a move up isn't as serious a consideration (though it's certainly a possibility). If Pettigrew and Matthews are both gone by this point, I don't think the Bills will reach for an OT - I think they'll take the best defensive playmaker that they can find, regardless of position. Delmas is that player - solid against both the run and the pass with top-flight intangibles, he'd be worked into the rotation as an eventual complement to FS Donte Whitner.
2-42: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
No change from above.
3-75: Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida
At this point, linebacker is still a need, and since OG has been taken care of, the Bills can take the best available linebacker. I love this kid - he's active, athletic, and mature. I think he's an instant starter. I wouldn't be disappointed if the Bills considered him in the second round. He's not ever going to be a dominant run defender, but he's good in coverage already, plays hard, and has some solid upside.
4-121: Richard Quinn, TE, North Carolina
I am certain that if the Bills drafted a tight end that had 12 receptions throughout his career in college, the fan base would collectively let out a short burst of sarcastic laughter. Quinn has solid upside, though, and outside of Pettigrew might be the best blocker at tight end in the draft. He's got the size to be a red zone threat as well. Don't be surprised if Quinn sneaks into the third round or perhaps even the second.
5-147: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
No change from above.
6-183: Roger Allen, OG, Missouri Western
No change from above.
7-220: Greg Toler, CB, St. Paul's
The Bills like their "random DB" picks, and always have. No one had heard of Northwestern State's Terrence McGee in 2003. Nor had anyone a clue about Akron's Reggie Corner last year. Toler is a popular sleeper pick out of St. Paul's, a school that has never had a player drafted into the NFL. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for the Bills - but Toler's got some solid upside.
So, to recap...
MOCK ONE: NO TRADES
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
1-28: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
2-42: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
3-75: Jonathan Luigs, G/C, Arkansas
4-110: Gerald McRath, LB, Southern Miss
4-121: Lardarius Webb, CB, Nicholls State
5-147: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
6-183: Roger Allen, OG, Missouri Western
7-220: Marcus McClinton, S, Kentucky
MOCK TWO: Parrish, No. 110 to KC for OG Waters
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
1-28: Louis Delmas, SS, Western Michigan
2-42: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
3-75: Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida
4-121: Richard Quinn, TE, North Carolina
5-147: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
6-183: Roger Allen, OG, Missouri Western
7-220: Greg Toler, CB, St. Paul's
Like yesterday, I imagine that the few of you that actually read every word of this are gnashing your teeth right now. I imagine that the majority of you that skimmed just to see what the trades were and who was picked are gnashing your teeth and think I'm insane (though the first group is entitled to that opinion as well). It's up to you to decide whether or not your teeth-gnashing makes my guesses more or less accurate. Fire away.
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Brian, you may be right in reading the minds (if they exist) at OBD, but again I hope you are not right except on Pettigrew and Luigs. I can’t see them wasting their second round pick on Cadogen — with Bell, Walker and Chambers I believe they believe they are set at OT. Maybe an OT in the later rounds as a development prospect, but not on day one.
I also don’t see the point of Irvin in round five when they could get Sammie Lee Hill. However, the rumors are flying that the Bills are after John Henderson in a trade with J’ville (perhaps involving Roscoe). Jack Del Rio is said to be unhappy with him (that doesn’t take much with Del Rio) and the Bills may be thinking it would be a great idea to unite him with Stroud. If that happens, I would not be surprised to see Spencer Johnson move to DE, where he should fit a lot better in terms of size and playing style, in which case they might not be as interested in Ayers. Connor Barwin would be a much better bet as their speed-rusher IMO, and they can get him in Round Two (though they might need to move up to beat out the Pats).
I can’t see them wasting their second round pick on Cadogen — with Bell, Walker and Chambers I believe they believe they are set at OT. Maybe an OT in the later rounds as a development prospect, but not on day one.
You very well may be correct, and I did mention that it’s not a lock that they take an OT within their first three picks.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
John Henderson
Any additional info to these rumors of the Bills trying to pursue J Henderson. I would love to see that happen, If that did materialize and we did trade Kelsay and add a better pass rusher we would have one of the best DLines in the entire league.
by Hassanali181 on Apr 18, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s only coming from one source, and I have not been able to confirm. Take it with a grain of salt for the time being. That same site reported a few days back that the Bills were talking to the Browns about Parrish…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I fully agree that we should take that rumor as strictly a rumor, but the deal does make some sense from J’ville’s perspective so it may have some legs.
Something to like about the Profootballcentral website...
They have 2 Bills on their front page—Lynch and Owens (in Cowboys uni spilling popcorn on his face)
Something not to like about Profootball central
In addition to their inability to sort out there, their and they’re, they state that Buffalo wanted the 21 pick (instead of 28) in order to target Alex Mack, Everette Brown or Rey Maualuga. Of all the guys we’ve heard about from Geronimo as targets of interest to OBD those names have been entirely absent.
Mactruck
Here is a scouting report from PFW on Connor Barwin——-Only a one trick pony with few counter moves. Late to react to the ball and does not see plays developing. Instincts are very raw and is still ininfacy stages as a pass rusher with no arsenal of moves. Could warrant looks as a OLB. Lacks base strenght.
Ok, but look at the rather exensive report on CBSSportline.com (I believe it comes from Scouts, Inc.) and you will find a very different take on him. He is said to be explosive, very mobile, able to change direction on a dime, a strong tackler, etc. You can find all kinds of opinions on different websites. And yes, the Bills might use him as a SAM and then move him up to DE on obvious passing downs. In some ways that kills two birds with one stone.
It seems clear that the Pats really like him and see him as one of their top choices, and they are pretty good judges of talent. I for one would like to see the Bills beat them to it.
Oh my God Brian....
did not expect this….
A first round strong safety….Richard Quinn…. This would not be awful but it wouldn’t be ideal.
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:)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that might be le left feild pick that no one expects… but really? a SS?
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see it happening...
why not? I was just surprised to see it.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I will have to respectfully disagree. I think we need a OT at 11 or Britton at 28. I agree our pass rush has been pathetic, but we have Schobel coming back and one of the top t 12 DT in the league in Stroud. I think it is easier to cover up a bad DL than a bad O line.
Well, I appreciate you doing it respectfully, at least! :)
I don’t even know what my mock would look like if I picked the guys I wanted… maybe I’ll whip that up real quick…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If I did a mock with my guys (won’t do the trade), it’d look like this:
1-11: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
1-28: Larry English, DE, Northern Illinois
2-42: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
3-75: Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida
4-110: Antoine Caldwell, C/G, Alabama
4-121: Anthony Hill, TE, North Carolina State
5-147: Sammie Lee Hill, DT, Stillman
6-183: Conredge Collins, FB, Pittsburgh
7-220: Slade Norris, DE, Oregon State
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Like it
Any thoughts on Jared Cook from SC? I have not seen much on him in the Rumblings. Thought I would put it out there. Pass catching, stretch the field, average blocker. Looks like he is a mid 2nd.
MRW did a scouting report on Cook back in March.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign me up for this one then!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Very Nice!
Your 1st 5 rounds would be great, We could debate the need for a FB at 6 for perhaps some safety /cb depth but other than that it would be a great Draft and I think that its not out of the question that the 1st rd. falls this way. Another possibility with 11 if our guy is gone ,is to make an additional trade down, so someone can move up for a QB. I think this would indicate that they are going for Pettigrew or Ayers in rd.one.
I love it, but
I don’t think Caldwell will be around at 4th. I really like him, very good prospect.
by hightower_mc on Apr 18, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Wut oh…
OG Waters, TE Gonzalez not at Chiefs Minicamp
Am I gonna have to re-do this thing AGAIN?!
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
I hope so!
And so do you. Quit your whining. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Man up, you pansy
Anything good for Buffalo is good even if it’s bad for you. Though doing another mock wouldn’t be bad—it would probably be fun, reliving the excitement and possiblities and so on.
Yeah, who am I kidding. I’d be down.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Waters and Whitner
can team up and do United Way commercials together (they currently do them separately) as Buffalo Bills representatives?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Would be great for the Buffalo community and great press for United Way.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be ideal!
I’m not re-doing mine until Monday night.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Let it be Brian, theres way too many things happening right now :P
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
john henderson
anyone hear we are trying to trade for Henderson for a 4th round pick? i just got a text about it, havent seen anything online though
it’s at profootballcentral.com.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that would be interesting. Stroud and Henderson reunited… If a gimpy Stroud brought a 3rd and 5th what would Henderson cost the Bills? He’s 30, a year older than Stroud was when the Bills swung that trade. Maybe Parrish (Jacksonville needs WRs) and 110? Or would Parrish and 75 be needed to get it done?
I have to say that if Buffalo does add another player at the age of 30 or older, I think I would strongly prefer it to be Waters over Henderson. I’d feel much better about our LT situation with Waters next to whoever’s playing that position on opening day.
I felt Stroud and Williams were an above-average tandem last year, and I definitely wouldn’t say that about Peters and Dockery. As it is, I believe DTs develop faster, which only makes Waters more valuable, in my opinion — if Buffalo’s OL picks continue to develop, the line might actually be a strength for the team for years to come. Waters would help foster that development. Don’t know if you could make the same argument for Henderson…
I don’t… it’d be McCargo.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He was another grrrrrrrrreat signing
Lots of money for a fringe type player. Ah well.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I tend to agree
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I only like 2 of your picks ...
… both from your No-Trade mock: Pettigrew & McGrath
Other than that, I think both of these scenarios would be horrible. Ayers?!?! This draft would help the Bills stay glued to the floor of mediocrity.
I hope this is not what the Bills will do …
What is so bad about Ayers?
He will be a very good DE. He could be a great every-down player.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
not a #11 value ...
… if the bills want ayers then they should trade down. if they’re available, i’d take maybin or brown instead of ayers.
but of course, what am i talking about … #11 is going to be Oher.
by fami1y_first on Apr 18, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
There is realy talk out there about Ayers going higher than Buffalo...
The Redskins and a bunch of other teams have him high on their draft boards. I’m not saying ilove the pick but he fits the mold at DE that the Bills look for.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He fits the mold? Oh you mean he looks and plays like Chris Kelsey!
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
and Schobel... and Denney.
He is an every down, defend the run too, DE
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah bu I think it’s about time OBD breaks that mold. They can’t keep on going trying to draft the next Bruce.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Nor should that be the goal.
But they should want a guy who isn’t a liability against the run.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t they want a guy who isn’t a liability when rushing the passer too? We already have a couple of guys that are pretty good against the run in Schobel and Denney and another who we all wish was good at something in Kelsay. None of these guys can rush the passer, isn’t that what we need most?!?!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I'm not saying we don't need it.
I am saying that in the past the Bills have shown they would rather have a good run defender who might be able to rush the passer as opposed to the other way around. I’m just thinking to myself that if you go trying to draft the next Bruce Smith you are going to be disappointed.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking that thats exactly why we’Re disapointed in our DE corps because thats exactly what OBD has been doing.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't base everything on the past
In the past, they never would have even considered Terrell Owens.
You can’t keep drafting the same type of players, especially when the pass rush is such a mess.
Why does everyone keep talking about finding the next Bruce Smith? It’s not happening and it’s not even worth thinking about. Why can’t we just hope the Bills will find a competent pass rusher and actually proactively try to fix the situation?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
What I see OBD doing is drafting guys of the same kind of mold as Bruce was: a strong run deffender with a few good pass rushing moves. The difference is that Bruce was one of a kind, his tremendous strength ment that even if he only had 3 or 4 moves, he could still power through the tackles and get to the QB with those. I think constantly going for that same mold is a HUGE mistake on OBD’s part. Unfortunatly it’s also a istake that they repeadedly do. Right now we need a pass rusher first, we’ve got all the run stoppers we can ever need.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t be down with Ayers at #11 until I see him play and dominate. Until then, I don’t like him there.
Not a huge fan of Delmas, and definitely don’t see him as a late 1st rounder.
I said it in your other one before, but why would we be taking a somewhat developmental OT? I’d much rather get the immediate upgrade/starter. Cadogan would be a slightly more polished Bell, correct?
If it wasn’t for Ayers, maybe I wouldn’t disagree with these mocks so much. For some reason I don’t hate them as much as the previous versions, haha….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Ayers seems to have taken the Maybin Memorial “Polarizing Player Award”. The mock’s good, though I like your “if it was based on what I wanted” draft better. Any chance you can crack the inner circle? Haha.
Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Apr 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Brian
I can see your trade mock occurring now that Waters is starting to miss things like minicamp. I think that will make Pioli more inclined to move him and give his new HC a chance to start fresh even if slightly behind on oline development. We have seen that the Chiefs take a long view (and large amount of loyalty) when it comes to their FO people, so I think Pioli can take the long view on this one.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
I would be more disappointed with us picking Robert Ayers at#11 than any other potential 1st rounder prospect in this Draft. Please go and watch all of the Tennessee games possible and you’ll understand why and there is an attitude and work ethic problem in wuestion with him also on top of the fact that yes he is way to similar to Chris Kelsay!
I've gotta say that I really don't like the Ayers pick
simply because he looks like a another version of Chris Kelsey to me. He’s not what we need for our d-line. And I honestly think that we could probably draft him at 28, so why reach so high for him at 11?
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 18, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
That's why I think the Bills will pick him.
simply because he looks like a another version of Chris Kelsey to me.
It’s in their history to like that type of DE.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, and 90% of them have been big disapointments. Honestly, out of all the DE that we’ve drafted in that mold, only two panned out, Bruce and Schobel. I get wanting to draft the next Bruce Smith, but your going to go through A LOT of dispointments before you find another HOFer.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like two mocks, but I’d want to know more about safet prospects to judge if Louis would be a good pick.
I’m not looking close to Safety prospects, but Sean Smith or Rashad Johnson aren’t better prospects than Louis Delmas?
Sean Smith or Rashad Johnson aren’t better prospects than Louis Delmas?
Sean Smith is interesting, but he’s a corner by trade. He hasn’t played a lot of safety; his potential is through the roof at the position, but he needs a bit of seasoning there.
Delmas is excellent against the run and he’s one of those players that’s always around the action. Great instincts. He’ll have a Leodis-like adjustment going from Western Michigan to the NFL, but he should start in this league for a long time.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 18, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Ayers
I’ve only recently heard of Ayers. Is he really any good or just another flavor of the week. 1st it was Orakpo, then it was Everette Brown, and then Aaron Maybin, and now this Ayers guy.
Who liked Orakpo?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I like him better than Kelsay or Denney.
:-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
All I See is another year of rebuilding!
Hate to Hate, but damn is there any player on the bills roster that makes you say “watch out for this guy”? What is the game plan here? Bad drafts, McCargo? etc. Bad resignings, Kelsey? Then you give walker and dockery big money, but can’t find the money to sign the best and brightest lineman ( peters). Yeah its a crazy amount, but thats what you pay, next year someone will get paid more… Look at the bills brass! I read these posts here and there is more common sense then the guys that make the big bucks to make the decisions! Now toronto wants more home games, and the bills seem to agree. I love the bills and think it would be a huge loss for the area, and fans…..but how much do we take of this “franchise” that doesn’t seem to have any direction????

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