Rumblings Authors Mock, V2.0 - sireric's take

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 7:00 AM EDT in NFL Draft Comment 57 comments

I think that for this mock draft - my final entry in this year's Rumblings Authors Mock series - I am going to go against one of my preferences when doing a mock draft. Normally I dislike including trades, mainly because I think that as Buffalo Bills fans we tend to give our team too much compensation and overrate our own talent. That said, I think that this year could see a few trades by the Bills, so I will give it a try. I was going to include a Jason Peters trade, but I no longer have to speculate about that.

The Bills send Roscoe Parrish to the Dallas Cowboys in exchange for the Cowboys' Round 6 (No. 197 overall) pick in 2009. The Cowboys were third from the bottom of the league last year with a terrible 6.4-yard punt return average; compare that to the Bills, who were No. 1 with a 15.5-yard average. Roscoe gives the Cowboys and upgrade at returner at minimal cost. Why so low on the compensation you ask? How much would you give for a guy who is basically just a punt returner who is making what Roscoe is?

After trading Jason Peters and my prognostication about the Roscoe Parrish deal, that gives the Bills the following picks: 11, 28, 42, 75, 110, 121, 147,183, 197, 220. Here is what they do with those ten picks:

1-11: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi. After trading Jason Peters, tackle now becomes a huge need for the Bills, and Oher is probably the best one left on the board at this point. Oher also has the ability to play guard, which makes him even more valuable to the Bills since they have a hole there also.

1-28: Alex Mack, C, California. I'm not sure that the Bills would ideally like to take two linemen this high. They would most likely prefer to add a DE somewhere here. Alex Mack however would be just too darn good to pass up. The Bills need more ~~Kiss Ass~~ Kick Ass toughness on the offensive line, and Mack has that in spades. I think that Geoff Hangartner still stays at center and Mack is a guard, but who really cares where they play?

2-42: Fili Moala, DT, USC. For those of you who are still pining for Haloti Ngata, fear not - Moala is Ngata's cousin. The 6'4", 305-pound Moala has plenty of size and will fit into the Bills' DT rotation quite nicely.

3-75: Marcus Freeman, LB, Ohio State. There could be several options still on the board to fill the OLB spot for the Bills. However, their compulsion towards OSU players compels them to grab Freeman. Freeman is a solid blitzer who, at least initially, can be subbed for by Keith Ellison when needed to drop into coverage.

4-110: Phillip Hunt, DE, Houston. A little late for a DE? Sure. But let's be honest - Schobel and Kelsay are the starters, and Ryan Denney is going to play a prominent role also. The Bills need a guy who an come in on passing downs, pin his ears back, and go get the QB. Hunt can be that guy - then maybe next year when at least one of the Trio of Suck leaves, Hunt can have a bigger role.

4-121: Sherrod Martin, S, Troy State. Martin has good timed speed, 4.46 in the 40 at his pro day, and has decent ball skills recording 4 picks this past season. He was of course also a teammate of Leodis McKelvin last year.

5-147: Davon Drew, TE, East Carolina. I have touted the likes of Bear Pascoe and Davon Drew for quite some time now, and here is why: the Bills are going to put an onus on running the football this year. If Derek Fine gets hurt and misses some time, like he did last year, that will leave Derek Schouman as the top TE on the Bills roster. Schouman isn't the best blocker around, so if Fine goes down it could really hurt the Bills' run game if their next best blocking TE is a guy like Chase Coffman or Jared Cook. Give me a blocker.

6-183: Lee Robinson, OLB, Alcorn State. A solid depth pick here. Robinson is athletic enough to comtribute on special teams right away and could develop into a pretty solid player. Robinson was an All-SWAC First Team qualifier as a senior.

6-197: Dallas Reynolds, C/G, BYU. Reynolds was an All-Mountain West first team performer, and was the leader of a unit that blocked for one of the top offenses in the nation. At 6'5" and 328 pounds, Reynolds is a massive road grader who is easily an upgrade over the mercifully-departed Duke Preston.

7-220: Mark Hafner, FB, Houston. I know some of you love Quinn Johnson and Tony Fiammetta, but Hafner is a great receiver out of the backfield. He finished his senior season by catching 86 passes for 907 yards and 11 scores. Given Trent Edwards' love of the check down pass, Hafner's hands could prove invaluable. Next Larry Centers?

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Alright, let's hear it. I know most of you will hate the the fact that I didn't take a DE until round four, and I know that plenty of you want a TE that can stretch the field so I doubt that this will win too many of you over. I am OK with that. I will settle for an I told you so.

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Oher, Mack, and Moala.....I love it

But, will the Bills FO? Is this mock what you would do or what the Bills FO will do? Either way, with Rhodes signed do the Bills really need to draft a RB in the fourth round? Is Omon toast?

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by Joe P. on Apr 19, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good Mock

I think the Bills will take Oher. He will be the best player available in my opinion, and LT/LG is a need.

Alex Mack as the second pick huh? I just think there will be someone higher on the Bills Board than Mack for this pick. If Brian Cushing or Peria Jerry drop here, I think the Bills would love to land them.

I love the Phillip hunt pick. I think hunt will be a heck of a pass rusher in the NFL. The amount of sacks he had in college and is 3 cone drill just scream pass rusher.

by buffaloboy90 on Apr 19, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’d be okay with Oher and Mack in the first. Something like that would surely solidy the OL. As much as I like Oher though, I’m afraid he has that “boom or bust” label. But then again, don’t we all?

Will Moala really last that long? If so, I’m okay there too. That’d make three big guys with the first three picks, and I like that.

Blech on Freeman – I like other LBs that might be available there.

No thanks on a RB. Or FB for that matter.

I could live with Drew. You and I both share the same thoughts on TEs, and that’s because we’re freaking geniuses……or morons. Good future poll question right there…

Give me more info on Dallas Reynolds if you have it. I like those big guys who can play center and/or guard.

Props to using the comment “Trio of Suck.” Had that been used here before, or did you invent it? Whatever the case may be, it certainly fits.

One last thing – was this done with or without pants and ice cream?

by krytime on Apr 19, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

swap Unger for mack and Its a deal. We can wait till next year for gresham if we must.

by BuffaloChip on Apr 19, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like it.

I like the idea of getting abackup blocking tight end. I like the two linemen taken in the first round. I can live with DE being held off til round four. We definitely need a blitzing LB(duh). I like the receiving fullback. I really hope the Bills draft towards the skills of the players you have here. Your draft is realistic and solid. Great job, man.

by jj24 on Apr 19, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

One change

I would be very happy with this mock draft. But, I would like to not take a RB with that fourth pick. We don’t need a running back at four. He is never going to see the field. Would be a wasted pick.

by Bob on Apr 19, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was going to change it this morning but Brian bumped it up on me.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure – blame it on Brian. That’s hilarious.

by krytime on Apr 19, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry Eric – I saw you’d swapped out your Peters trade and thought you were all set. Feel free to edit…

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 19, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just got home, my bad, too late.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah, it’s never too late. Edit away for Archives’ sake.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 19, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You talked me into it. I changed it. The more I think about it, the more I think that the Bills will use all of the extra picks to move up. But I will stick with this for now.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think it’s a wasted pick if we get rid of Roscoe, we need another return man.

by pastj12345 on Apr 19, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then why are we getting rid of him?

I think Leodis or Jackson or Steve Johnson or someone else will be returning punts with Roscoe gone.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well i think that’s obvious. i’m saying a RB isnt a wasted pick if they selected him as our next PR/KR guy.

by pastj12345 on Apr 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wait what?

the reason Parrish is expendable is because we have 4 other return men (McKelvin, Jackson, McGee and now Rhodes), why do we need to draft a fifth? It would be a wast of a pick

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McGee won’t be returning punts, and neither will Leo.

Rhodes definitely won’t be returning punts.

Jackson is a solid punt returner, but isn’t the explosive return guy we all want. He’s more of a fill-in that a full-time guy there.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 20, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’l agree that McGee wont be returning anything this year, but I do think the Leo will be our main returner for both punts and kickoffs, with help for Jackson for punts and Rhodes for kickoffs. All of this is a mute point is we don’t trade Parrish though.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moot, the saying is moot point.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 20, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe in Canada it is mute :-)

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by Joe P. on Apr 20, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or there’s always the possibility that I’m just a idiot :-P

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moot is a legal term. It means that it’s debatable. So debatable that it isn’t worth debating because you might never be able to find a solution or a middle ground.

It would be like arguing about what the best color is because you could debate it forever and never prove that any answer is the right answer.

Andy: I am a great interviewee. Why? Because I have something no one else has: my brain. Which I use to my advantage, when advantageous.

Dwight: I am going to begin this process with a simple test of intelligence and mental dexterity. What is the best color?
Andy: White, because it contains all other colors.
Dwight: Wrong. Black. It is the most dominant. How do you make a table?
Andy: You make a chair, but you don’t sit on it.
Dwight: What is the capital of Maine?
Andy: The capital of Maine is Montpelier, Vermont, which is near Ithaca, New York, where I went to Cornell.
Dwight: Okay, also, moratorium on Cornell talk. Don’t wanna hear about it. Forget your personal history, and learn the history of this company.
Andy: Should not be a problem. I minored in history in the Ivy League school which I attended.
Dwight: You’re not off to a very good start, Bernard.
Andy: I agree. But in another way, I am off to a very good start, wouldn’t you say?

by kaisertown on Apr 21, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McGee won’t be returning punts, and neither will Leo

Half right. I feel certain that if Parrish is traded, Leo and Freddie will split both kick and punt return duties. McKelvin may have been the best punt returner EVER in college football history (seven career TD); the Bills would ABSOLUTELY give him touches there.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree

but this team has special teams in its blood, so i disagree that Bobby April will not get another guy. Fred Jackson and Rhodes are nothing special on ST.

by pastj12345 on Apr 20, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I’m assuming they keep him on full-time KR duties.

I would definitely not be opposed, in any way, to Leo and Fred as the rotated punt returners and Leo and McGee as the rotated kick returners.

You’re right that they’d be smart getting him to return punts, but is it happening if he’s starting on D and the full-time kick returner?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 21, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed. I think Leo is the full-time kick returner and would get a few spare punts near the end of halves or when the Bills are big time desperate for a big play.

by kaisertown on Apr 21, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's ok

I wouldn’t give you and F, or even a D. I may even reach up and give you a B.

What’s the point of trading Roscoe in this scenario? A 6th round pick just isn’t worth it in my book. I’d rather keep him on ST’s that get a later 6th for him. He’s worth more to us that a 6th, IMO.

Oher and Mack would really solidify the OL, that’s for sure. I just don’t think they’ll go for Mack though, nor do I think they’ll grab another OL at 28 after getting Oher.

I don’t know a whole lot about Moala, but is he really a fit here? Or is better suited as a 3-4 DE?

Like kry, I say blech on Freeman. Nothing special.

I don’t like taking Hunt as our first and only DE of the draft. He’s just too small (244 lbs) to be more than a situational player, which is fine. But we need a future starting DE in here ASAFP. I’d love him as a second DE pick, that’d be perfect, but we need more than him….

I really like Smith, but that seems quite early for him. Plus, do we need another RB?

I’m ok with Drew if that’s the type of TE we end up with. That’s much better value than going after Pettigrew in round 1, even though he’s not as good of a player. I think Drew will be a solid player and a decent enough receiving option.

I’m not really on the FB bandwagon anymore. Are we going to use it enough or not? Hafner is only 220 lbs, so I’m not sure what he’d be giving our offense. He was a TE in college, so who knows if he can lead block at all….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 19, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What’s the point of trading Roscoe in this scenario? A 6th round pick just isn’t worth it in my book. I’d rather keep him on ST’s that get a later 6th for him. He’s worth more to us that a 6th, IMO.

Is he worth the roster spot? How many WRs are going to be kept on the roster?

I really like Smith, but that seems quite early for him. Plus, do we need another RB?

Like I said above I was going to change it this morning but saw that it was on the front page and I have to leave for the day in 10 minutes.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We can’t keep 6 WR’s again, just like we’ve been doing? Justin Jenkins doesn’t need to be on the team….

~K
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by Kurupt on Apr 19, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why waste the roster spot?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The team kept 6 WRs last year and they very well may again regardless of how Parrish plays out. I don’t really buy the roster spot argument because keeping Parrish probably does nothing more than push Jenkins off the roster and that isn’t really a negative.

by kaisertown on Apr 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True, but for me I don’t see Parrish having that much value for the team. F-Jack or Leo could return punts, and if Parrish is 5th or 6th on the WR depth chart, why keep him? Trade him, even if it is for a 6th and use that to move up and grab a better pick.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 19, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not bad

Of course, with offensive linemen a-plenty in the early rounds I was kind of predisposed to like it. If the Bills don’t like Barwin in the 2nd then adding a DT isn’t a bad idea at all. I’d rather see Parrish paired with a pick to move up a round than just let him go for a 6th.

by Ron From NM on Apr 19, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Swap Pettigrew for Oher

I would be ok with this draft if you swap Pettigrew for Oher. I don’t think the Bills believe they need to use a high round pick on an OT and I think they are right. Besides, Oher’s competitiveness and work ethic are questionable for someone going at #11. Pettigrew is almost like another o-lineman with his blocking skills. He could give Walker reinforcement on the left side until Bell is ready to take over as LT. I would also choose Barwin in the second round, but DT is a major need and Hunt might do the trick as a speed-rusher. I especially like Marcus Freeman as the new OLB. He is very underrated.

by Macktruck on Apr 19, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well said

I strongly believe that we are picking Pettigrew at #11 this year. You nailed it when you said that he is like another lineman. For sure he won’t make it past Atlanta. I really hope that we can trade down a few spots and get him but if there are no trade partners I hope they pull the trigger at #11. I really love the idea of Mack at #28.

Then at 42 I’d prefer to see a guy like Barwin or Jerry if he slips down to 42. I definitely like the idea of a DT at #42 and in my humble opinion a guy like Ron Brace could be a great addition because it would free up Marcus to rush the passer. Raji is so disruptive because he knows a guy like Brace is anchoring the line and stuffing the middle.

if not a guy like Freeman pick at 75 but if Kruger is there I might prefer him.

At 121, I really do not like the idea of a RB. Especially now that we’ve secured Rhodes for 2y. I’d go LB in this spot.

Obviously at 147 I wouldn’t go TE, I’d probably go for a OT/G

Then at 183 I go for Quinn Johnson. I absolutely love this kid on every aspect. He is an amazing blocker, great hands out of the backfield and a very powerful runner on short yardage situations. he seems to pick-up the blitz very well as well.

At 110 I’d like to go for a safety. I really like the possibility of Sean Smith. I know he’s listed as a CB but at 6’3" 214lbs and he runs a 4.5 I like him at FS.

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by keysh67 on Apr 19, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would agree with all of your amendments. If we want Barwin (and in my view we should) we will probably need to swap second round picks with Detroit to get him. Otherwise New England will take him with #34. But if we miss him Moala or Perry would be fine with me — although as Brian pointed out some time ago Sammie Lee Hill is a DT with great potential who will likely be available in Rounds Four or Five. And I like Kruger a lot — his mobility would be very well-suited to the kind of defense the Bills run. And yes, I think a FB makes much more sense than a RB — especially one like Quinn Johnson who can run and catch when needed.

by Macktruck on Apr 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is the absolute perfect spot to grab Alex Mack. If he is available then (and he should be) we’d be nuts to pass on him. Think – Best Player Available. Good mock.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oops. That should have come out – #28 is the absolute….

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Apr 19, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless

the Bills are super strapped for cash there’s no point in trading Roscoe for a 6th rounder. Why bother? Besides, I thinks it’s OK to pay Roscoe for the excellent field position he’s provided us the past few years. 6th round picks are guys that are usually fringe practice squad players…. so it’s almost like cutting him.

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by ForeignArrow on Apr 19, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And one beef I have

is that I don’t think Moala will be the best value at that spot in the 2nd round and DT is not essentially a position of need.

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by ForeignArrow on Apr 19, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you can never have too many big beefy bodies in the middle.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eric I've been on board with every mock I've seen from you so far......

and this one is no different….well done sir :)

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

O-line, TE, Parrish

Others have said it, and I agree, a blocking TE is, in effect, another offensive lineman. A TE such as Pettigrew that can also stretch the field does not come along very often. I think he could be had lower than the 11 spot but would not hate it if the Bills took him there.
If the QB’s are still on the board at 11, or if a few premier OL are there, then I think the Bills will have a few willing partners to move from 11 to anything from 12 to 23. We could then get Pettigrew and have the ammo to move back up again if someone slides.

I’d rather see the Bills package Roscoe Parrish to move up from the 28th spot. TB & their 19th pick would be great. TB is low on picks, and this is the equivalent of then getting an extra fourth round pick; but one that they know will play. (I think a sixth round pick seriously undervalues Parrish. First he is a premier return man, secondly, in the right system he could be a very good third receiver.)
I think the Bills have to think about drafting a QB. If Rhett Bomar is still there in the 4th (#121) then they have to give serious thought to getting him.

by DerryDan on Apr 19, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i like this mock

Mack and Oher in round 1 would be an incredible boost to our offense and our dangerously understaffed offensive line

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by poz on Apr 19, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Which is exactly why I don’t see OBD doing it. I just don’t see them using both first rounders on the O-line. But 2 out of their 3 first picks would seem like something that they would do to me.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 20, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is it?

didnt Geronimo imply that we should expect a lot of offensive lineman?

I think Eric is right, simply because at #28 what defensive lineman, linebacker or tight end will be worth drafting? Pettigrew, Matthews, Ayers are gone. So I think the best value is interior line.

Where I do get lost on this draft is taking a DT at 43. Can they possibly ignore other holes for a position of relative strength?

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by poz on Apr 20, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mock Draft

I love the pick of Mack at #28. I think this guy will be the next great NFL Center. A great work ethic, a great leader, smart, strong, tough and plays with a mean streak. What else do you want in an O-Lineman? I have believed all along that he is the best pick for our Bills.

That being said, I don’t know if it is really necessary to draft an OT that high. Chambers did nothing to disgrace himself where ever he played last year. The team has said all along that thay think Bell will be a good one. Do you think they traded Peters because Bell is ahead of schedule? I still like DE at #11.

I don’t mind a DT in Round 2 but I also would not mind a 2nd DE – good talent in ROund 2 at DE. I like a TE in Round 3 (Beckum from Wisconsin) and a LB in Round 4 (Zach Follet from Cal). With the 2nd 4th Round pick, how about the Guard from Wisconsin?

by bobb498 on Apr 20, 2009 5:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like this better than Brian’s. :-)

I like Oher and he’s an immediate upgrade. I also like Mack.

I do not see the Bills drafting DT that high. I don’t see the purpose of it. I am drafting a developmental guy but not a starting guy. We have needs at too many other positions to take a DT there IMO.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not picking on you Matt, I have seen this line of thinking and it frustrates me

Everybody throws that similar argument out there, basically saying, just because a DT isn’t a major need, then we should pass on a good talent so that we can take a less talented player at a different position just because he plays a position of need.

In my opinion you don’t go into a draft and say the Bills biggest needs are A, B, and C, so in round one we take A, in round 2 we take the best B, so on and so on. That is just silly. if in round 2 an elite D is available, you take him.

I know Fort will agree with me on this.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 20, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So Fili Moala is the only player of talent available in the second round? I don’t buy that. There are players in the draft with equal talent that could also contribute on the field for us. I’m not saying to pass on him if he’s head and shoulders above the other players available. But he won’t be.

In your draft, one of the second tier DEs could be had instead of a second tier DT. I’m not against Moala nor the best player available debate. I just think at that spot the players graded out would be close enough where you take a need position like DE or LB over a want position.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

In your draft, one of the second tier DEs could be had instead of a second tier DT.

It all depends on how the Bills draft board if laid out. If they have Moala that much higherf than the DEs that are on the board……

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 20, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you on the if part...

I just can’t see how he would be that much higher than guys in positions of need. It’s not like we only have two holes. We have four or 5 guys we could plug in there. I’d rather you take Patrick Chung even at that spot. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m glad you don’t draft for the Bills.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 20, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why?

What’s wrong with Chung? He would start for us at SS this year wouldn’t he?

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I view the lines (O or D) as more important than a safety. I would rather take a guy who is a rotational player in year one at DT then Chung.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 20, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So do I, as you can see from my mock.

But where we disagree is that if I have this scenario play out, I’m drafting someone other than DT because even if I view the lines as a priority, I have three rotational guys there and Keith Ellison and Bryan Scott behind them. If I can improve on one of those two guys I am going to do it as opposed to improving over my fourth string DT.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs