The No. 28 Overall Pick: Player and Financial Histories
by MattRichWarren on Apr 22, 2009 5:00 PM EDT
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About a month ago I took a look at the last 25 No. 11 overall picks in the NFL Draft. Now the Bills hold the No. 28 overall pick as well, so I went back and looked at the history of our new selection. As you would expect, the results are not as appealing as the eleventh overall. The picks marked with an asterisk were made in the second round, but still at 28 overall.
No. 28 Picks, 1984-2008
2008 - Lawrence Jackson, DE, Seahawks
2007 - Joe Staley, OT, 49ers
2006 - Marcedes Lewis, TE, Jaguars
2005 - Luis Castillo, DE, Chargers
2004 - Chris Gamble, DB, Panthers
2003 - Andre Woolfolk, DB, Titans
2002 - Jerramy Stevens, TE, Seahawks
2001 - Derrick Gibson, DB, Raiders
2000 - Rob Morris, LB, Colts
1999 - Andy Katzenmoyer, LB, Patriots
1998 - R.W. McQuarters, DB, 49ers
1997 - Trevor Pryce, DT, Broncos
1996 - Jerome Woods, DB, Chiefs
1995 - Derrick Brooks, LB, Buccaneers
1994 - William Floyd, FB, 49ers
1993 - Thomas Smith, DB, Bills
1992 - Darryl Williams, DB, Bengals
1991* - Mike Dumas, DB, Oilers
1990* - Reggie Rembert, WR, Jets
1989 - Keith DeLong, LB, 49ers
1988* - Marcus Cotton, LB, Falcons
1987 - Mark Ingram, WR, Giants
1986* - Jackie Walker, LB, Buccaneers
1985 - Trevor Matich, C, Patriots
1984 - Brian Blados, OT, Bengals
There are some outstanding players on this list. We can measure how many outstanding players there are by looking at individual honors like Pro Bowl appearances, All-Pro Team selections, and Hall of Fame enshrinement.
Pro Bowl
Every year the Pro Bowl takes the best players from each conference and plays them against one another. Between 40 and 50 players are considered Pro Bowl players in a given year from each conference for a grand total of 80-100 players. Here's the No. 28 overall picks from our list that have been selected to the Pro Bowl:
Trevor Pryce ('99-'02)
Jerome Woods ('03)
Derrick Brooks ('97-'06, '08)
Darryl Williams ('97)
All-Pros
At the conclusion of every season, 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL select the All-Pro Team. This is a much more exclusive honor than the Pro Bowl, however; 27 spots existed on the team in 2008. Here are the All-Pro No. 28 overall picks.
Trevor Pryce ('99)
Derrick Brooks ('99, '00, '02, '04, '05)
Hall of Famers
The Hall of Fame is the greatest individual honor an NFL player may receive. It takes into account your entire body of work throughout your career. Of the thousands of NFL players and contributors in the league's rich history, only 247 people are currently in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. While Derrick Brooks is a probable Hall of Fame player, he is still active and can't be considered. No one else on the list has come close.
Picks 11 and 28
Ironically, in 2007 the Niners had the same two picks - 11 and 28 overall - and got Patrick WIllis and Joe Staley. Willis has been to the Pro Bowl twice and named to the All Pro team once. Staley has started all 32 games of his career at tackle for the team.
Potential Salary
While looking at the eleventh overall selection, I also broke down about how much this year's pick will be paid. The No. 28 overall selection will obviously be making less that the eleventh, but how much less? Here are the last three contracts for players taken No. 28 overall:
DE Lawrence Jackson (2008): 5 years, $11.25M, $6.1M signing bonus
OT Joe Staley (2007): 5 years, $8M, $5.6M guaranteed, $1.1M signing bonus, $3M in bonuses
TE Marcedes Lewis (2006): 5 years, $7.5M, $4.8M guaranteed
The only reason I can see for Jackson's contract being so much higher than Staley's is the guaranteed money. Staley's deal has most of the contract guaranteed, where Jackson has no guaranteed money but rather a $6.1M signing bonus.
If the Bills go the guaranteed money route, they will likely sign the player for somewhere in the range of 5 years, $9M, $6.5M guaranteed. If they go signing bonus route like the Seahawks, expect the salary figure to be higher, in the range of 5 years, $12M, with a $6.5M signing bonus (almost the exact contract that last year's No. 27 overall pick, San Diego CB Antoine Cason, signed).
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kinda bleak, the history that is. hope we hit the jackpot
by BuffaloChip on Apr 22, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would take a steady player like Joe Staley
Especially if we pass on OT at #11, we could do a lot worse than that.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Apr 22, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice write up MRW......
while your mocks may not be to my liking…….
;)
you’re always spot on with stuff like this.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 22, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1....Hahahahha
"Get ready for the pain women…the pain train is coming Whooo Whooooo !!!!!" – Terry Tate Office Linebacker
by Joe P. on Apr 22, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged.....
lol
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 22, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys...
even if you had to +1 it… whatever that means
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brain said it meant rec'd.....don't read to much into it Matt :-)
"Get ready for the pain women…the pain train is coming Whooo Whooooo !!!!!" – Terry Tate Office Linebacker
by Joe P. on Apr 23, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just missed the best player...
One more year back gives you Darrell Green in 1983 (HOF, 7 Pro Bowls, etc). Of course, 26 drafts isn’t a nice round number.
Interestingly, when checking one pick back (#27), you get nearly the same results. One really good player in the last 25 years – Larry Johnson, 4 additional Pro Bowlers, and a few busts (Carruth, Gibson). And then a HOF player picked a year earlier, in 1983… Dan Marino.
by Krenn on Apr 22, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Aha! A good sleuth. Well done, Krenn.
by thefourwinds on Apr 22, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good work
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Apr 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice...
I would imagine Derrick Brooks will be a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. I also think that once you get out of the top 15 picks, I bet most of the draft history looks like this. Some busts, some great players, and a lot of mediocrity. It would make sense to have that at pretty much every pick.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the 28th pick usually isn't a stellar one because of the team picking
I think the reason why the players that show up at 28 aren’t always stellar is that usually the team that picks at 28 is looking for a depth player that will complement a starter and as a result let a few better talents pass in order to grab someone that fits on their team better. How many times have we seen players that were projected to go in the mid to late first slip to the second not because of talent, but because they didn’t fit on the teams that were picking?
And there have been a few players that haven’t made the pro bowl, Chris Gamble and Luis Castillo come to mind. Both have been excellent for their resective teams. The Bills should be able to land a good quality starter at 28.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 22, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised Catillo was never voted in, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the best 3-4 DE’s in football. Yet it seems to be the 4-3 DE’s that make the Pro-Bowl more often.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 23, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 4-3 DEs usually get more sacks...
usually. The 3-4 guys aren’t the ones blitzing. Think Joey Porter and James Harrison. The LBs lead the team in sacks in 3-4 schemes.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were my thoughts exactly. 3-4 DE are usually run stoppers and not pass rushers. Jason Taylor is just about the only exception to the rule. But he can be sucessful in both the 3-4 and 4-3.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 23, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This gets me a bit down on the player
BUt a very good right up…I’d love to know the history of some Bills players in the past few years, and their historic draft place
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Apr 22, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
I don’t get what you are looking for with their “historic draft place”.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some real stinkers on this list.
Reggie Rembert, I almost forgot how crappy the Jets used to be at drafting.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 23, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't even know who that guy is....
But if you picked, say, the Bills selection in the 5th round or something this year I wonder how many good players would actually have been drafted there. That would be a weird thing to do…. Maybe after the draft. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
used to be?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Apr 23, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have gotten better.
Mangold, Harris….
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre....
whoops. :-) I just don’t like the Jets…
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Apr 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What non idiot does?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 23, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how I wish we had stayed put for Harris….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Apr 24, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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