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Bills trade back into second round, select OG Andy Levitre

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New Buffalo Bills OG Andy Levitre (photo source)

The Buffalo Bills, in their most shocking move of the day, have traded back into the second round to select Oregon State OG Andy Levitre.

The Bills sent their third-round pick (No. 75 overall) and their first fourth-round pick (No. 110 overall) to the Dallas Cowboys for the No. 51 overall selection, which they used to add the versatile Levitre.

Levitre is the second interior lineman selected by the Bills on the day, joining Louisville C/G Eric Wood, the team's No. 28 overall pick in the first round.  Though he played left tackle at Oregon State, NFL scouts don't believe he can play the position in the pros, lacking the arm length and overall frame (6'3", 305 pounds) to adequately protect the edge.

Oddly enough, the Bills emerge from the first day of the draft with the top two interior linemen on their board in Levitre and the aforementioned Wood.  Feel free to speculate on how Levitre fits into the picture - does Brad Butler move to RT?  Is Levitre simply a backup?  The comments section is yours.  We're pretty sure Buffalo is done for the day.

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Are you pleased with the pick of new Buffalo Bills OG Andy Levitre in the second round?
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I hate them no I love them!!

by telka on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

this is weird.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh I forgot…FIRST

by telka on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gave up 3rd and 4th for the pick

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tom Modrak should be fired for that move alone. Levitre is good (though not the best interior o-lineman still on the board), but the Bills need a TE and OLB. Now they don’t have any picks to get one. In general, this has been a poor draft, but at least we didn’t pick an OT (the last thing we needed).

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he was the best interior OL on the board.

And they can still get a depth TE. They are high on Derek Fine and various TEs will be available in the 4th and 5th.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what do you mean?

Levitre was rating the NUMBER 1 pure Guard in the entire draft……………

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on who was doing the rating.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

75th and 110th......

so 3rd and 4th round pics for Levitre…….NICE

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3rd rounder #75 and 4th #110 for the second

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

According to Mort, picks 75 and 110.

by Krenn on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do I even care?

Looks like they are trying hard to lose again

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So….with a 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th now left, we won’t be addressing starting OLB or TE apparently…..

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe another guard and 3 DB

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah this worries me....

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we have to hope for Hill in the 4th and Knighton in the 5th :-)

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we can get a decent kid at TE in the 4th or 5th...

you guys were just talking up a 5th round TE earlier…so what gives

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

as a 2nd TE pick!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh......

okay

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill is that TE

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It looks like they’re playing for Gresham in 2010. I’m nearly done with this team. You need picks to fill holes. You don’t need to lose 1 to move up and grab an early interior guy.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starting OL come week 1

Walker – Levitre – Wood – Butler – Chambers

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't assume Butler is going to hold that starting job

And don’t assume Wood won’t take guard

by Dyl on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Hangartner?

seriously?

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predicting a Hangartner injury?

by Pistol on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

we didn’t sign Hangartner to be a backup

Walker – Levitre – Hangartner – Wood – Butler

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why wouldn't Wood be the LG?

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Levitre is a better LG.

Butler played LT in colledge and I think he could make a good RT.

And we didn’t sign Hangartner to be a backup. I honestly think that will be our line.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not quite

Butler was RT in college at VA as D’brickashaw Ferguson was LT

by freddyjj on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even better, he played at RT, lets put him back there.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

move Butler to tackle

maybe we move him out there like he played in the preseason and in college.

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by evdawg419 on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no. Walker — Wood — Hangartner — Butler — Bell. Put the five best men on the field.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You say a guy who has never played a snap in the NFL is one of the men best guys?

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its hard to back off a cliff when you’ve already gone over it. but this pick wouldn’t have helped anyway.

by Donte's Inferno on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I threw my pants off the cliff

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we’re just waiting for you to run drunk and naked through the street of new york

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see if you were never wearing any to begin with…..

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care who else we pick.....Byrd was a bad pick in that spot

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed but that doesn’t make a bad draft

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesn't make it a good one either

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but it’s not bad either.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if your waiting for me to say we have had a good draft.....have another drink :-)

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not. I will have another drink though.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to break out the single malt scotch

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to fire Jauron and Modrak.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man… any excuse to bring up the same old line.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Why would we fire Jauron now? At least give him the season, maybe theres a method to his madnes… I doubt it, but still.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just ticked off by what I consider a bad draft.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whether it truly ruins their draft and hurts the team, it ruins my confidence in this organization to realize the need for best player available. When will the bleeding stop?

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They still could have done this without the trades and getting him earlier.

by telka on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HORRIBLE TRADE!!!!!!!

God i hope that we trade up to the third tomorrow, we need an LB BAD

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LBs are all sliding. A good one can be found in the 4th.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah But I REALLY wanted Mckenzie or Freeman in the third and I don’t think either of them makes it to the 4th.

God we’d better trade Parrish with a pick next year for a third.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look for Buffalo to

Pick up Nic Harris to be the new OLB. He will be available in the 4th or 5th round. Then we pick up a DT in the 6th and 7th

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by Deadpool71 on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you might be half right. Harris probably. DT no, not with a hole still at TE.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, but if they do that Jauron will insist on taking another CB.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No more damn trading. They don’t need to give up picks to move up. It has never helped a Bills team.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THey aren't paying him to be a backup.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hang is going to start for a little while

We won’t start two rookie offensive linemen in this critical of years for Jauron.

by Dyl on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shady going to Philly..........

nice……

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great pick

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree....

Philly is gonna have a great team…….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sooooooooo

Signing a veteran LB I see….and Fine is our starting TE.

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by BillsNYC on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Brooks.....

he is out there.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so is keiaho. tampa 2 LB

by Donte's Inferno on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn't like him before the draft.

I don’t think they go Keiaho. Just my opinion.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you’re probably right, but i’m just trying to convince myself it won’t be another year of ellison

by Donte's Inferno on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no, it’s Ellison. Jauron’s word is like gold it seems. His vote of confidence in Ellison signaled to me that he saw no need to upgrade. Ralph Wilson, I hope you enjoy your mediocre sandwich without any spice.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What else was he supposed to say then?

You can’t say Ellison sucked or anything. He had to say Ellison was the starter because nobody on the team would start over him yet. We may trade back into the second or third round and pick Mckenzie or something.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll believe it when I see it. I have lost all faith in that front office. I think they place need over value and do so in the strangest of ways.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they place need over value

I don’t see that at all. The Byrd pick should be the perfect example of how wrong that statement is.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how does Byrd represent value?

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he doesn't represent need!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!! Value by default

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly!

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did it ever occur to you that he is neither?

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has value as a player. You may not like the pick, but that doesn’t mean he is a bad player either.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s going to mke a very good FS. but it doesn’t mean that I have to like the pick.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s been mine for a while now… The kid is a ballhawk, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get 3-4 INT’s this year.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where will he play though!??!

Unless they see him as a starting FS….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what if I do see him as our starting FS?

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see him there first

He was a college CB, how long would the transition take?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that long if he plays FS IMO… I think he played a bit of safety in college too, but I’m really not sure on that.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where was the absolute highest that Byrd was projected to go?

You can try to put a positive spin on him, but as far as I can see…..Byrd was a big reach at a time we could have used the big on an OT or LB

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He went in the 50s in the SBN mocks.

Right about where we picked him.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so we got descent value for him.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we picked at 42?

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not saying he wasn’t a reach, and I’m not saying that he wasn’t a bad pick.

I am saying that he HAS VALUE. Maybe not much, and maybe not more then some other guys that could have been picked there. I was chanting Cadogan the whole time, I wanted a Tackle too.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough.....I didn't like the Edwards pick at the time, so WTF do I know :-)

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have been asking that for a while now ;-)

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Brooks is not signed within the next week I’ll be … ah hell I can’t be more disapointed then I already am.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Robinson part 2?

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by BillsNYC on Apr 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eddie robinson was an over-the-hills bills LB that got deeked by vinny testaverde of all people (or was it chad). either way, the jets QB made him fall down, and neither of those guys will be mistaken for vince young.

by Donte's Inferno on Apr 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, now I see your point.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was Chad

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t that the guy from the Oilers who came to Buffalo and never did a thing?

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a thought.....

Maybe the Bills took Byrd earlier b/c they anticipated a run on safeties and hoped that Levitre was going to fall.

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But isn’t Byrd a CB? Why not take Chip Vaughn in that spot instead of Byrd?

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t believe we’re going to go another draft without getting an impact TE…I don’t get it.

by telka on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus they may view Derek Fine as a great TE

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I think they didn’t scout anyone outside of Pettigrew and didn’t do so because virtually none of the other “sure bets” played in a pro-style offense and weren’t asked to put their hands in the dirt.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't go countin' chickens.

They scout everyone. They will pick a TE. It will be tomorrow. It will be someone. THey only have the Dereks and Matt Stupar.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention...

there are no quality TE’s to be picked in the 2nd this year. Pettigrew was the only day 1 guy IMO.

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THere are plenty of later round TEs guys.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least we finally added some guys to shore up the middle of our line…..

Not exactly sure how the line is going to shake out now though

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I forsee a ton of false start penalties.

"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ingram in the fourth??

by telka on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could be...

There will be plenty of TEs in the fourth round.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cameron Morrah

Put him in Lynch’s Posse

by freddyjj on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could have had pettigrew, everette brown, unger and probably wood with the dallas pick. damn.

by dzil on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the guy, don't like what we gave up to get him

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

any hope for a FB??

by Buffalove83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know I wanted Quinn Johnson, but now, not so much… maybe in the 6th or 7th.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony Fiametta!!

Go Cuse!

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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Day one:
Maybin
Wood
Byrd
Levitre

I like 3 of the 4. Find a TE and LB later and I am pretty happy.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with Wood and Levitre Im extremely happy with the first day.......

I’d like to see a big body for the defensive side……and a LB and TE and then I would be thrilled

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I am now stepping back from the ledge after the last pick. Excellent move. Now that line should be solid with two young studs at the guard positions and hanger at center. Levitre and Wood play very mean on the field and Butler as well. That exactly what we need.

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by Hambone on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Maybin and Wood

Maybin may take some time, which I am thinking Jauron thinks he has no matter what, Wood is a solid pick. Byrd is a joke. After realizing they screwed that up, they panic, trade up, and pick Levitre for some unknown reason???

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even worst, Beaty is still available!

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade next year's second plus a fifth this year for him.

done.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have rather they traded that 3rd and 4th for Pettigrew...

of Oher.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where does Levitre and Butler fit into our OL now?

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose they could bump Butler out....

but this is weird.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They just gave him a new contract though!

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he meant out to tackle

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes sir.

sorry for the confusion.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“This guy is strictly an inside offensive lineman. Bills moved up to get him in the bottom half of the second round. The offensive interior is pretty well stocked now and there are options at guard with him and Wood.” From Chris Brown. This is either for depth or is going to move Butler outside.

by NJBillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Butler to Tackle??

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have to be our new RT

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Day One OL prediction....

LT – Walker
LG – Levitre
C – Wood
RG – Butler
RT – Chambers

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

didnt you already post this?

and Hangartner is NOT gonna be a backup on Day one

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and this means Edwards out before game 5

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about hangartner, why we paying him

by Buffalove83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hangartner WILL BE center. fact

by dzil on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say it’s Walker-Wood-Hangartner-Levitre-Butler. Just a hunch.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was what I was going for.

Anything since the first round from Geronimo?

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally...

On same page Brian. Thats exactly what my thoughts are.

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~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, just switch Wood and Levitre

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point I hate to give the Bills credit for anything, but you are all missing the point. The team got ver lucky in the 7th round last year and landed an OT named Demetrius Bell who was still raw, but who the coaches believe is going to be a stud. Look at Chris Brown’s live blog yesterday when he said clearly (I believe these are close to the exact words): “The coaching staff has a very high level of confidence in Demetrius Bell.” That’s why they weren’t willing to meet Jason Peters’ contract demands — because they thought they had a prospect who would be as good as Peters within a year or two. If they have someone they feel is THAT GOOD they are going to do everything to get him on the field next year. As the Bills have said repeatedly in the last few weeks (Russ Brandon said it explicitly last week), Bell is going to be the starting RT in 2009. That’s the plain and simple reality.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If thats the case, Where do the put Levitre and Wood?

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess would be that Hangartner, Butler, Wood and Levitre will compete for the three starting interior o-line position. I suspect the first three will win out to be starters and Levitre will be the reserve interior o-lineman. Given how often that reserve guy plays, it’s a very important position (see Geoff Hangartner, Carolina Panthers, 2008). We also have Seth McKinney for that reserve role, but he is only on a one-year contract so the Bills probably don’t have him in their long-term plans.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did he explicitly say it last week?

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On his texting conference.

by Macktruck on Apr 25, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, don’t post things twice. it cluters up the thread for nothing.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who was THAT guy?!?!?!

~K
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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

???

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The weirdo who announced Phil Loadholt to Minnesota

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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he won some prize

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The #1 fan prize winner

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THis is a good trade. You have know established an interior line. Let Chambers and Bell fight it out for Tackle. I would have been thrilled if they did this for their round 2 pick then moved back up and took a safety. 4 interior guys fight for 3 spots creates great competition and a solid backup.

by Berg79 on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We better run the ball 75% of the time now!

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s what Edwards is thinking right now

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

except first three games

by Buffalove83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not, Jackson and Rhodes are more than capable.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But TO would complain! /sarcasm.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hangartner has got to be playing, if we are paying him right? Even so I think FO understands how important building a solid offensive line is to making your team a contender. Hopefully we can get someone like Ingram Beckum or Nelson or Cook in the 4th round round.

The supposed need was OLB but Ellison was one of the more consistent LBs all year.

Trying to stay optimistic, but I think we overall had a good first day….

Grade: B

by billsct11 on Apr 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Never mind

I guess Levitre played LT at Oregon State

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So maybe it'll look like this opening day -

LT – Walker
LG – Wood
C – Hangartner
RG – Butler
RT – Levitre

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not according to Chris Brown.

Levitre is an interior lineman.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has short arms....can't play OT in the NFL.

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong again, Butler at tackle

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THey should get a good push and Edwards cant throw when the interior line is getting pushed back. He dealt better with the rush from the outside then up the gut.

by Berg79 on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Falcons draft Milloy's replacement.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

looks more like an O line designed to face 4-3 D’s not the 3-4’s of the AFC east. at least they natch up good in practice. lol

by dzil on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t get that either.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

small center and slow OT’s

by dzil on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotcha. I don’t agree, but I gotcha.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just depressed about losing pettigrew and not picking up a potential LT. overall it actually was a good couple rounds. i’m guessing OBD sees Byrd as a center fielder, since we had virtually no picks last year.

by dzil on Apr 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a firm believer in building from the trenches out so getting 2 of the top interior lineman and a pass rush specialist makes me feel a little better…if they move whitner back to strong safety and play byrd as a “playmaking” free safety then I have offically moved back from the ledge

by jkleeb83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What ledge. Don’t you live on the bottom floor!!

But I agree building the interior of the line is where its at. Add some speed to DE and you got a better team after today is over.

by Berg79 on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how do you know where i live…stalker

by jkleeb83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well when I follow my girlfriend around she ends up in your room. So I know you live on the bottom floor.

by Berg79 on Apr 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What????

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somewhat of a joke since we are roomates.

by Berg79 on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

ok

THought it had just gotten a bit creepy

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You and me both

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the very least creepy.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s your girlfriend…damn i thought that was your little sister

by jkleeb83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

remember

what is expected of our cb’s in this defense. they have shallow and intermediate third so flat out speed is not as important. bottom line is that Byrd is a playmaker. led the pac 10 in int’s the last 2 years. it may have been unexpected but I don’t think he’ll be a bust.

by gatornation on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Byrd might not even make the team, just a hunch.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will make the team...

if only because they spent a second round pick on him he will make the team.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Safety

He will play Free Safety. No doubt he’ll make the team.

by CBATL32 on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope so

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Polian scores a win again......

with Moala

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea there is definitely a possibility we are overreacting

by billsct11 on Apr 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You think???

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would fans do that????

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have options

We just turned our weakness into a strength we have solid starters and depth on the offensive line. We can move these guys where we need them and be better.

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by Deadpool71 on Apr 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it

that’s impossible

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ravens drafted another DE.

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kruger off the board....

if anyone cares.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Kelsay breathes a sigh of relieft

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

knew you'd like it.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the franchise had been decent in the past 10 years, i would say we might be overreacting. but are we really convinced they know what they are doing?

by Donte's Inferno on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well if not.....

atleast the YOUNG OL will help when the new coaching regime comes in……

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yes, i’m already in “wait til next year” phase. then all we will need is a new LT, OLB, TE, and possibly QB. but at least we will have 8 CBs and 7 Gs!!!

by Donte's Inferno on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And be in a good position to draft McCoy or Tebow, don’t forget that!

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ewwww Tebow...

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably the most overrated player ever

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah two NCAA national titles.....

one heisman trophy……two time heisman finalist……numerous other Postseason awards……

but Over-rated……

Keep drinking that hateraide.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In order to be overrated, you kinda need to be rated highly to begin with….

The guy is a college system product, he won’t be anything at the next level

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's hasnt been rated as anything yet in the NFL......

so….Im still failing to make the connection……

Plus someone with his drive and determination….he’s gonna find a way to be successful in the NFL.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not talking about being rated for the NFL, even though analysts already fall all over themselves to talk about him

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well the posts you responded too were talking about Tebow as a draft pick next year....

so then why would you be talking about how Overrated he is in college…..

and plus he’s not overrated……..he’s just talked about alot……there is a big difference.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m really not understanding what you’re getting at – I think he’s overrated and you obviously highly regard him

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to know how you think he's overrated.....

I’ve yet to see anything regarding proof to this…. besides you saying people talk about him too much…..

So obviously its a biased thing because you dont like the fact the guy is a winner……..I understand

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup – I don’t like that he’s a winner – great point. I’m not going to waste my time arguing over this, but just because the guy can run over DBs and throw floaters off of fake draws doesn’t make him the greatest QB since Joe Montana.

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL I never said he was the greatest QB ever....

he’s a great football player……..

plus Im not arguing…..just discussing my point of view….

In a results based sporting event which is what football is……I dont see how anyone can say Tebow is overrated…………sure its not always pretty……..but the game of football hardly is…………

Ask Kyle Boller how throwing a pretty ball works for him.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think that Tebow gets all the credit, when a ton of it is the system and the undeniably good talent around him. Plenty of other guys contribute to the wins – its not tennis or golf.

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont believe that.....

UF’s defense gets tons of praise…..but Tebow is the QB and with any team no matter who’s on it the QB is the face of it……

but you dont have to like the guy…..doesnt matter to me but I kinda get urked when ppl say he’s overrated……because the guy busts him hump all the time…..No one plays the game harder than him IMO

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not doubting the guys passion for the game or work ethic here…

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus he wins.......even when his team is having a rough go of it.

he does whatever he has to…….to win…

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saying HE wins is exactly what I meant. by getting all the credit

It’s a team game

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you watched the guy play?

Did you watch the NC game against OK?

He singlehandedly took over the game……..

much like Peyton Manning does…

And Tom Brady….

Without him…..Florida DOESNT win.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I naturally hate Brady – but that’s required!

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate him....but respect how good he is....

or atleast how good he is in the system he plays in…..apparently you can plug Matt Cassel in and do the same…….

And who knows……Tebow might be that way too….but I just dont think so.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a Mike Vick wanna be. at the slitest hint of pressure he takes off and runs. That desn’t cut it in the NFL. All the great running QB’s were throw first QB’s, theres a reason for that. Tedow is a run first guy, that wont do in the NFL.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with you.....

but we’ll see

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on which point?

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he's a run first guy......

I think the guy just makes the plays that need to be made….

Granted he’s in an uncoventional offense which requires him to run more than normal………but thats just the coaching staff playing to his strengths…..

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Chris Leak won one of those titles – where is he these days?

by Posluszny Pollocks on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

notice how I put McCoy first?

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

new england take beatty? just because

by Buffalove83 on Apr 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vollmer

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sebastian Vollmer.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No they took Sebastian Vollmer

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am OK with our interior OLine moves

Dline, Maybin is good, preferred Brown, but can live with it
Byrd is just ?? for me
I really really hope he was taken so we can move Ko out from FS and move Donter back to SS

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YEAH!!

I called this in my mock draft!

Levitre is the best pure guard in the draft!

Now that gives us flexibility, however, I am afraid we don’t have enough people on the roster that can play left tackle. Currenlty we have ZERO left tackles on the roster!

I REALLY question the Byrd pick, it makes no sense now. We could have had a linebacker, we could have taken the bes tackle etc.

Someone give me credit though on calling Levitre!

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I told you I loved your Draft.....

and Levitre was part of the reason why……..good call.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll give you some props

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Draft quote.
Round #2, pick 42
Andrew Levitre – Guard – Oregon State
NOTE: the Bills will NOT draft Alex Mack. He is much better suited to play Center and the best offseason signing was Hangartner. Hangartner will man Center this year, period. Leviter is slightly undersized but plays big and mean. Based on what Geronimo said, he fits the profile the Bills are looking for.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I predicted before:

Walker would be moved to LT

by Renegade23 on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every time I heard it, make me feel really bad

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I called for a pass rusher and talked up Wood, though I pretty much hate 42 right now!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if you hate the fact they took a defensive back in a totally unreasonable slot, trust in the saving grace that he will make plays. He can possibly man free safety this year and then maybe move back to cornerback and dominate with McKelvin for years to come.

Don’t think so negatively before the guy has time to prove or disprove himself and his worth.

by NJBillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can he make plays from the sidelines???

Unless he’s going to crack the CB rotation or become the starting FS, I don’t think he’ll be very useful anytime soon.

I don’t think Byrd is a bad player, it was just a bad pick for the Bills.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Byrd is a bad player, it was just a bad pick for the Bills.

I’m with you on this. Byrd could very well turn into a real player for the Bills. I would have preferred to draft Levitre there and save the 3rd rounder.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We needed that 3rd to get a good OLB, we are now stuck with the leftovers in the 4th

Goodbye immediate OLB starter, :-(

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by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Ellison is as bad as everyone claims, then not really.

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by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellison is a solid backup, but he should not be a 16 game start sireric

You, me, and everyone else who watches football knows that

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by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

You are a pissed off dude right now. I’m not disagreeing with you, I am saying that if Ellison is so bad then we shouldn’t have a problem replacing him, even with a 4th round pick.

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by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, that is not how I read your comment

I thought you were saying we should be happy with Ellison starting 16 games, sorry.

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by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call...hope he works out well. Short arms is not a good thing, even at G

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you call him the best pure guard when he didn’t even play that position?

by labill on Apr 25, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the spirit of his comment was “highest-rated guard”.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we can send off Parrish and a 7th and get a 3rd back tomorrow. Get someone like James Casey and then go after a linebacker like Tyrone McKenzie in the 4th.

Oh, and no credit for you, Jason. :)

by NJBillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't really deserve any

Oher, Pettigrew, and my prediction that they wouldn’t take a DE/OLB with teh #11 pick were WAY off!

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s OK, I don’t think any of my pick have been right so far.

by NJBillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can get back into the 3rd

and get one of the TE’s, then a LB in the 4th, I will be very happy with this draft. I didn’t realize Byrd was going to be FS, but I think he’ll be a great fit there. I am not sure who is going to play where on the off line, but I love Wood and Levitre.

by CBATL32 on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!

by BenAllen on Apr 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beatty is gone...

oh well.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there goes Beatty … Giants

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Beaty's gone

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by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What if

The bills put Levitre at RT or LT. That is where he played in college. Does anyone think he could handle tackle duties on the pro level.

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by Deadpool71 on Apr 25, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't heard anybody that said yes...

short arms is one reason.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's defintely a guard.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great pick of MIami… Damn

by hightower_mc on Apr 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On BB.com

I think it is real funny that Chris Brown talks about all the picks other than Byrd. It is like OBD confused themselves with that pick! Basically, they have nothing on their website about him other than he may play safety and had a bunch of picks.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our oline is solid now at least

But I must admit I am really really really afraid with Walker out at LT, we will need to keep Fine in, ALOT to help him handle speed rushers coming in from that side.

Which means if we want a TE who can catch the ball, we need one later today, but with the need for OLB so horribly bad right now, our other 4th will be used to make that hole go away, which means not till the 5th for a TE. I guess Stupar can go out partying now, his roster spot is safer than the gold in Fort Knox

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by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Always trade next year's third for this year's fourth.

and draft our TE or whatever then.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still se another inside guy going later, but the O-line looks real strong in the middle right now.

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by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McKinnie is probably like...

“great. now what?”

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking a back-up Center.
A guy like Shipley or Dallas Reynolds late could be good picks

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by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably backup guard too.

Bell and Chambers on the roster… that’s 8 OL already.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many more Centers do we need?

Hangartner, Wood and McKinney can all play the position, and will.

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wood is the starting Guard, I would prefer to leave him there then move him around. Hang is the starter so you need a back-up. McKinney I view more as a back-up guard.

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by sireric on Apr 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s still a backup interior linemen….

OG/C: Hangartner, Wood, Levitre, McKinney
OT: Chambers, Walker, Bell
OT/OG: Butler

I don’t think we need another guy….

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by Kurupt on Apr 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LB McKenzie in the 3rd and TE Hill in the 4th.

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by Joe P. on Apr 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but we don’t have a third.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which was my point

We will either have to cough up our 4th a a player(s) to get back into the 3rd to get a guy who might fit our scheme, or just pray people fall to us. I am really mad we gave up th 110th pick instead of the 121st, we got rooked on this trade.

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by WABillsfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT