2009 NFL Draft at Rumblings: Day Two Open Thread
Welcome to Buffalo Rumblings' coverage of day two of the 2009 NFL Draft! Today's festivities begin at 10AM, roughly an hour from now, and will include the final five rounds - three through seven - of this year's draft.
The Buffalo Bills had an... is 'interesting' the right word?... start to the draft on day one when they added four prospects that few saw coming. The good news - the Bills have drafted at least two starters (guards Eric Wood and Andy Levitre), a serious contributor to the pass rush (DE Aaron Maybin) and a player that could potentially start at free safety on opening day (DB Jairus Byrd). The bad news - the Bills still have glaring holes at tight end and linebacker to address. Day One Recap
Buffalo traded its third-round pick, No. 75 overall, to the Dallas Cowboys in order to move back into the second round to pick Levitre. Therefore, the Bills currently only have four picks throughout the remaining five rounds of the draft and won't pick today until No. 121 in the fourth round. So we've got some time to kill.
We mentioned the continued need for a linebacker and a tight end. One other place to keep your ears peeled today is the trade market. WR Roscoe Parrish, DE Chris Kelsay and FS Ko Simpson have all been mentioned as being on the trade market in recent weeks, and especially in the case of the explosive Parrish, the Bills may be able to pick up an extra selection today via trade.
Just as we did yesterday, we'll have new posts up for each newsworthy item related to the Bills today. In the meantime, this is your spot to discuss the early portions of today's proceedings. Thanks for stopping by, and we'll see you in the comments section!
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Back in the 3rd Round
With Cook and Neilson still being availble the bills need to find a way back into round 3. After steping back and looking at Day 1, we have addresses several holes. Drafting Byrd to play Free Safety may have not addressed a need although we may look back in a few years and say it was a great pick.
If I am at OBD I find a way to draft one of the TE’s that are available. Maybe Roscoe and either a 4th or 5th will get the Bills back into position. I don’t like the chances of finding an impact player at 121.
We Need Tight end.
ANd most definatley not the dregs of the position that will be available in the late 4th. trade up guys, salvage this draft.
You're kind of reaching on Byrd
If Byrd plays FS and the Bills are happy with Scott’s play at SS where does Whitner go?
You’ve got it backwards. Whitner will start, period. At strong safety. Byrd could start at free, and they’ll use Scott frequently as well. They mix and match their DBs all the time. Now they’ve got a playmaker to work with.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Whitner better at FS?
I agree that the combination of Scott and Whitner did a solid job. I don’t think Donte is a great SS. I believe his skill set would be better at FS. I thought Scott did a solid job on some of the top TE’s in the league and did a solid job in run support. I think it was an area that didn’t need to be addresses so early.
by Northern Bills on Apr 26, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
In this scheme, the difference b/w FS and SS is negligible. I completely agree with you that Whitner should spend more time back in coverage than he does in the box; I’ve been saying the same for two years. But just because he’s playing “SS” doesn’t mean he won’t do some of that. I’m OK keeping Donte where he is if it means we’re starting an actual playmaker at safety. I REALLY hope Byrd is that guy.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Evaluation
Has anyon evaluated Whitner’s play at SS versus Scott’s. I was just very impressed with Scott last year. I think Brian has it correct when he says Whitner will move to SS, but I question this. Wasn’t it OBD who moved Whitner from SS to FS in hopes of him showing his first round talent (playmaker). I disagree with Brian, I think this is a moderate indictmetn on Whitner. He did not show playmaking ability at FS last year and will now be moved back to SS, where I actually think Scott outplayed him. He looks like what we thought he was when he was drafted, a reach, and not a top-notch talent.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Whitner officially becomes another first round bust...
…after spending the majority if time on the bench during the second half of the season.
After a day to let things settle in my head......
I have looked over the Bills draft and I am now, to this point anyhow, comfortable with what OBD did on day one. As disappointed as I was with them reaching, imo, for Maybin @ #11, I am very very pleased with the drafting of Wood and Levitre. With Wood and Levitre added to the O-line mix I feel it helped solidify a glaring need of the Bills. As mentioned yesterday I just have a feeling they will move Butler outside to the RT spot where he played in college. If that is the move they make and they put Wood at LG, Hanger CTR, and Levitre earns the RG spot, MAN, that gets me excited. It could be one of the meanest lines in football….in a year or two of course. The jury is still out on the Byrd pick, but, being that I dont know as much about him I cant speculate any further. I was disappointed in them taking a cb that early, but, if they plan on moving him to FS, I can now see their reasoning behind making that move.
All in all, I am happier today than I was yesterday. I have officially stepped back from that ledge I was on. :-)
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~
Glaring needs
This was my contention when we traded Peters. OBD did not have the foresight to understand that trading away Peters, releasing Dockery, releasing Royal, letting Crowell walk, etc. created just far too many holes to be filled.
Honestly, past Pettigrew, I am not thrilled with any of the TE’s out there. I think I would be much happier with OBD picking up one off the waiver wire or counting on Fine.
As for LB’s unless we move up to get someone like Freeman from OSU, I don’t think any of the other options are better than Ellison. I again think the waiver wire for a veteran OLB would be a better option.
You (Brian) leave out the most glaring need, and that is LT. We do not have a LT on the roster. I am O.K. now with not taking Oher, I read too much hype. Gerinomo’s take and the fact that he dropped so much proved to me there was something fishy there (where there’s smoke there’s fire).
Having said that, the main reason we will have issues this upcoming season will not be because of our LB’s or our TE’s, it will be because of people blowing up whomever (probably Walker) fills in at LT. I am starting to love our interior, and don’t get me wrong, I actually was warming up to walker at RT, he just is not a LT.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
Byrd is old friends with Fewell...
…and it looks like the Bills wanted someone in the secondary that can actually catch a football, but there were too many other holes to fill at that spot.
Roscoe
I do know that we aggressively marketed Roscoe yesterday—both in our attempts to move up to get Pettigrew and again in the move to get Levitre. No bites. Perhaps with the stakes lower today—they’ll have better luck. As for LT and the need to get a developmental guy—I don’t think anybody left has more promise than they think Bell does. I think, unless something totally unexpected comes up—we need to just accept it’s going to be Walker. Quick—who played LT for the Super Bowl Cardinals??? Mike frigging Gandy that’s who. Uggggh. I KNOW its s critical position, but it’s not like we have a total zero there.
Geronimo
Yeah
I will just accept Walker right now. I am with you on Bell, but people shouldn’t get too excited for him to move to LT this year, won’t happen. Butler won’t play LT either, as they moved him inside because he wasn’t very athletic.
The Cardinals and Gandy, I have said that before. In retrospect, I actually think that providing enough options to Trent allows them not to keep as many defenders in the box. This could be why the Cardinals were so successful with a mediocre (at best) line.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a great point
But that doesn’t mean I have to like it!
by Mark Parisi on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
OBD
What I don’t understand is that when OBD was convinced (probably early on) that they were not going to be able to renegotiate with Peters they didn’t move quicker to trade him so they could fill the whole in FA (Pace, etc..
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions
Tackle vs Interior
I do know that tackles are generally drafted higher than interior linemen, and that tackels are usually a safe pick, but does anyone know the success rate of high round picks at tackle vs guard and which position is ready to start faster?
Regardless of which specific line position is drafted, I like the fact that the O-line is now a lot more versatile. One of these picks may not be ready day one. One of the veterans may have accelerated or decelerated their development more than expected. This draft speaks to those variables.
So who do the Bills pick at 121?
or do they trade back into the third round and take an OT, LB or TE?
Round 4, Pick 21 (121) (From Eagles)
Round 5, Pick 11 (147)
Round 6, Pick 10 (183)
Round 7, Pick 11 (220)
trade back to get Nelson
and bring in Leroy Hill to fill our SAM hole
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Brilliant
This year’s crop of Center/Guards was quite deep and OBD got in my opinion 2 of the top 3 interior linemen – not bad at all for a days work. While other teams were looking at the 4-5th best tackles, we were lucky enough to be stocking up on potentially great interior linemen. Last year we were pathetic at Center. We play in a division with really great NTs and being able to solidify the line interior the way we did was an incredible job.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
I think that if you rounded up all the experts and asked them to list the top five interior linemen in this draft, Levitre and Wood would be on every list.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
For sure.
And Todd McShay said he likes our draft so far. Good value picks and addressed the pass rush and OL. Didn’t mention Byrd../..
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Smith said the same thing.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think are 2 pressing needs now are TE and LB in that order. Believe it or not I think if we can make a trade for another 4th rounder with Parrish or Krlsey, I think we can get both in the fourth round. Lets see who slides. After all, who thought Everett Brown, William Beatty or Ray Magleuga would fall as far as they did.
Jets trade with Detroit
Jets on the clock
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
just insurance if jones continues hold out over contract
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions
i know but he not the starter right away if jones is there
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
They need a powerful backup. Leon Washington is a nice player, but he isn’t the grinder type that Jones is.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Mayock??
You could have stuck with Mel.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
but i’ll like mayock also and i used mel at first because everyone hates him so much
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
KC is probably taking a TE here...
unless they already took one, I am not sure…
by SebastianPruiti on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
We have got to....
Find a trade partner for Parrish. If we dont, we are going to have to cut one of our wr’s and get nothing for them. That would be the worst case scenario imo.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~
If we move him to get one of the TEs still available
I wouldn’t mind it…
by SebastianPruiti on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Parrish
You have to remember, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to keep this guy. He is pretty amazing in open space.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
52 × 5 minutes =260 minutes divided by 60 = 4 hrs and 20 minutes until the Bills pick.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Make some nachos, get some beers and hold tight.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
got leftover wings and pulled pork from party
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
K can start crying. Micheal Johnson just got picked by the Bengals
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
that's ok
once we passed on Everette Brown, it was unlikely they’d go after another pass rusher anytime soon…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I live in Cincy...
and I hate the Bengals. They do have a great draft so far. Would anyone trade our draft for the Bengals draft to this point?
Bengals draft looks really good on paper so far, but I don’t know how I would feel about the Bills going into the 4th round without any interior linemen added. I think its a toss-up. There’s a reason why Michael Johnson lasted till the 3rd round, or Rey lasted till the 2nd.
Good points
I like out draft I just thought it would be interesting to bring up.
by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Raiders pick Matt Shaughnessy, DE from Wisconson
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
they should fire the scouting dept and just by the draft magizine to make up their big board
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
they are picking guys with good name recognition. 2 years from now there whole draft could be boom or bust!
ditto.
On another note, I hope the Bills are able to trade Parrish, Kelsay, or Simpson and get back into the 3rd round. I would love for them to pick Cornelius Ingram and fill that TE void.
Will James Casey or Chase Coffman last until 4th?
With the guys below probably going ahead of them, it could happen I hope.
Cornelius Ingram
Shawn Nelson
Jared Cook
alot of teams don’t like how ingram acl was fixed
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
is there anyone on the board at TE that is better that what we have?
..a good blocking, pass catching TE has been something the Bills could use…
Common trend so far
A lot of the name-recognized players are being passed on so far in the 3rd round. A lot of the picks so far today have been graded in the 30s and 40s by Scouts, Inc. Just goes to show you that the media scouts and the real NFL scouts live in two different worlds, and you really can’t judge a draft until at least 2-3 years later.
The Cowboys pick would have been ours.
Is their someone you would rather have then LeVitre?
I HATE THEM!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The internet is down in all of western NY. Probably explains why there is so little traffic right now.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
The Byrd pick caused an overload.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
An overload of joy?
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I got caught up that.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We are well into the 3rd round and only two TE’s have been taken. And one of them is Richard Quinn. Looks like most teams aren’t valuing the more one dimensional pass catching tight ends very highly.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
I just hope and pray either Marcus Freeman/Tyrone McKenzie, Cornelius Ingram, Jared Cook or Shawn Nelson will be on the board, when we draft.
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Apr 26, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
At the rate this draft is going, I think it will be a good bet.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Yeah I have a game worn jock strap to trade you for those two slugs.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
If I was the Bills I’d make that trade. I’d even throw in Ko and he’s worth millions.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that I’d call Parrish a slug. I’m actually shocked that he hasn’t gotten some interest.
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
by UtahBillsFan on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
They're talking about Crabtree on ESPN right now
I have to wonder, had the 49ers passed on him, what would the Bills have done? Take him? Trade down? – I’m sure there were teams that would’ve loved to move up for him but maybe that’s a wrong assumption on my part. Or still take Maybin? (assuming the 49ers hadn’t taken him already)
4th round
Where is Buffalo’s pick in the 4th round? I can’t find it on ESPN DraftCast.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
Lion continue to show why they're in the bottom of the league
No linemen (offense or defense) picked so far in 6 selections I believe?
I think they should have looked at a lineman or two.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
instead of pettigrew.... :-(
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Belichek needed a new connection to get his weed.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
There are still a ton of pass catching TEs and tackling machine outside linebackers left. I’m not sure if they will need to move back into the 3rd round to grab one of those guys, but guys like McKenzie left at LB and a ton of TEs. I know a lot of people are somewhat mad about the last two picks, but they are showing that they realize that you have to build a team from in the trenches and thats what their doing. A solid o-line is the key to it all.
I always look at the Giants as a comparison. No offense to Manning fans out there, but I don’t think he’s very good, and with the solid line that they boast, Manning was an All-Pro and the running attack was unstoppable. Good picks if you ask me, and finally 2 playmakers on defense. This wasnt going to be a flashy draft anyway.
Eagles on the clock
Is this the pick that the Bills could’ve had instead of the 4th this year and 6th next year according to many rumors I heard? If so, who would you pick here? I gotta go with Cornelius Ingram, or Tyrone McKenzie/Marcus Freeman
No TEs yet in the 3rd...
It’s getting near the point where 121 plus Parrish/Kelsay/Simpson might let Buffalo get into the end of the 3rd….or at least into the early 4th
It’s getting to the point where we might not need to trade up. Would be nice to get rid of Kelsay or Simpson though.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
35 picks til the Bills are on the clock again
Lots of TEs and LBs will go in those 35 picks.
by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else think we should trade Ko Simpson to move back in. I’m not a huge fan of Kelsay’s production/Kelsey’s contract, and I feel similar about Roscoe. But I think they are a lot more valuable to our team than Ko Simpson. With the drafting of Byrd in the 2nd round may say that they are getting rid of Ko.
He's worthless
The reason you want to get rid of him is the reason no one else wants him.
It’s nice watching the linebackers and tight ends continue to fall. The sad thing is we will probably take a running back or wide receiver.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
Don't be silly
Buffalo has only taken 1 DB so far.
by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Run on TEs
As everyone can see, all it takes are two teams to take a player in a given position for their to be a “run” on any position. I would get my hopes up on a choice of TEs being there at the end of round 4. I can see a run on TEs starting at Philly with pick 27 in round 3.
Don't think we will have a choice of TEs if that is how we go.
by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope so. And it looks like we may be able to get a solid OLB or pass catching TE in round 4, although Im still voting to trade Kelsay or Simpson to get back into the 3rd.
I’m voting to trade Kelsay or Simpson just to get rid of them.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
McShay just dissed the Dolphins for taking Turner.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
I would love to trade Roscoe...
for a third round pick to take a TE. I hope OBD is calling every team as they are on the clock to see if they have interest in Roscoe.
Why is everyone here down on Coffman?
He catches everything thrown his way. I like him as much as Cook and Nelson. I see a TE run coming like the WR run that is currently happening.
The Jaguars drafted Kiper’s 106th rated CB. He rates 106 corners?
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
Mel Kiper is so smug I hate him...
This guy was my 109th corner…why are teams drafting him? I’d love to just punch him in the mouth once…
by SebastianPruiti on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
I would pay Mel to be a scout for my team, the guy knows a lot about the draft and is correct more often then not. He is smug though.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
I strongly disagree...
I hope that was sarcasim. Mel is horrible. He is wrong more often than not. He is a complete wind bag.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~
Atlanta wont pick a TE...
but I can see Philly and Indy taking a TE
Pats get another 2nd rounder
For giving up a 3rd this year.
They’re so impressive running a draft. I don’t think they choose the best, but their positioning is second to none.
Mel was talking about that before. Saying that he has seen a lot of reaches this round.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
These teams clearly aren’t using Kiper’s, McShay’s or Mayock’s rankings. What is wrong with them.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
da da da
I wish ESPN would just show highlights of the guys being drafted instead of talking about guys who are immature.
nfl network shows highlight with most picks
by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Here comes the patriots love fest
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
morning fellas..........
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
nothing like waking up and seeing the Pats still doing their thing.....
and getting picks for 2025 and crap…….ugh.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
holy.....
there was a crap load of CB’s and WR’s taken this round……..
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Someone is going to offer a 4th for Roscoe...
once a team is interested in a WR, but none are on the board.
by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
NFL Network v. ESPN
NFL Network will also show “bad” video of some players when talking weaknesses.
Where else would you rather be...
lol........
one of Qwan Cosby’s friends probably called him to say……..DUDE you are on TV……
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
This Bill Cosby segment is weeeeiiiirrrrddd.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
im waiting for him to bust out with...
“jello puddin pops”
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Any LB’s left besides Follett and Freeman?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Too small for my liking
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Pats just took him
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Chase with TE...
I brought this up before… should we trade drafts with the Bengals. How about now?
Replace Maualuga with a Guard, then maybe....
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Let’s hope Nelson keeps slipping….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
or James Casey.........
thats who I want
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
one of those two would be excellent picks
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
which means it wont happen
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ingram is still the best available IMO. He’d be in a good situation in Buffalo if he lasts till our pick – he won’t have to come in and contribute right away on offense but he has the most potential of any TE this year I think. Next year after T.O. is gone, he could become the security blanket for Trent.
Trent's security blankey is Josh Reed
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
How many drafts have we gone now saying we’re going to get a legit TE and left the draft without one? And please don’t talk about Fine PLEASE
They wanted Pettigrew and that would have solved that problem
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Casillas from Wisconsin is still available too
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
225 lbs right?
I want Follettin the 5th
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
listed at 228.......
from what I see……but he’s 6-1 so he probably could put on another 7-10 lbs I think.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
he just got picked
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
LOL........
too funny.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
easy fella, there are still some players in this draft that can help
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
They have drafted every position on their team within the first three rounds for the last five years EXCEPT for the TE. Look it up.
Kevin Everett was a 3rd rounder in 2005
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Guy don’t have to be a 1, 2 or 3 round pick in order to be good.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
yeah plenty of first rounders flop every year.....
while 6th and 7th round pics are going to the pro bowl.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yea I guess that is true….they must not be too high on TE’s. I still think it would be nice to get someone down the middle of the field. As far as security blanket Trent has a ton of them now, in dump off guys like Rhodes, Jackson, Lynch, and the Dereks. Reed is good underneath as well. I guess they don’t like TE’s playin a major role in the passing game.
you know.........Erin Andrews is my number 1 pick.......
but Rachel Nichols is someone I would pick up in the 2nd
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
good call
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Into the 4th round
TE: Nelson, Casey, Ingram
LB: Freeman, Follett
OT: Meredith
DE: Sidbury
I think Chip Vaughn is still out there too…could have gone the SS route, oh well.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
there is something you dont expect to see in the 4th round.....
a run on TE’s
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
they dont have to pay much to move the guy atleast.........
so thats a plus
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
W
We can’t be overly upset with the Bills draft because especially in the 3rd round, there have been guys “rated much lower” that have been drafted in spots where they supposedly don’t fit. We all (including myself) get brainwashed by guys like McShay and Kiper…when they are wrong a lot of the time.
Wonder why NFL tickets prices rise?
look at the Lions $72 million deal with Georgia QB Matthew Stafford…
man Trey Wingo is a tool......lol
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
Jaws is a bigger tool, he just said that there is a little run on QBs….There has been one taken.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
1 more than there was before....
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Bomar woulda been a better pick.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe P says Brian Hoyer
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Giants draft doesnt really impress me..........
but…….i said that a couple of years ago too, then the rooks helped em win the SB
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
We need to find a way to trade up to get Nelson
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
YES... I was just thinking that.
I bet Nelson, Casey and Ingram will be on the board and we will draft a RB or something b/c they had him as the best available LOL
by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They won’t pick Nelson, or any other guy that we would like. We will more then likely have never heard of the guy the Bills pick
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
you mean like the Raiders 2nd Round pic?
I doubt it will be that bad.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Supposedly the Bears were to take him 2 picks later.....
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Cowboys still have 2 4th rounders
and haven’t address WR/KR yet….Could a trade for Roscoe be percolating??
I doubt it since one is our original 4th rounder…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
bye bye Maivia.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
im here
rumblers…….after a day of heavy drinking, i’m ready to blog baby!
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
My gut says MLB Phillips from TCU will be our pick....
Not sure why, just seems like something they’d do
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
TE...
I am also hoping for the Bills to draft James Casey. This is a perfect spot in rnd 4 to take a young guy like Casey. He is still a bit raw, but, has great hands, runs good routes and I feel can be taught to block well enough to help the Bills.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~
I still have this feeling that the Bills take a young QB like in the 6th or 7th......
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions

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