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2009 NFL Draft at Rumblings: Day Two Open Thread

In this Tuesday, April 7, 2009 photo, football draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. talks about the draft during a taping at the ESPN Zone in Baltimore. Saturday marks the 25th anniversary of Kiper's 1984 debut on ESPN's draft coverage, and while his demeanor and hair haven't changed all that much, his popularity certainly has. (AP Photo/Gail Burton)

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6 months ago: In this Tuesday, April 7, 2009 photo, football draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. talks about the draft during a taping at the ESPN Zone in Baltimore. Saturday marks the 25th anniversary of Kiper's 1984 debut on ESPN's draft coverage, and while his demeanor and hair haven't changed all that much, his popularity certainly has. (AP Photo/Gail Burton)

Welcome to Buffalo Rumblings' coverage of day two of the 2009 NFL Draft!  Today's festivities begin at 10AM, roughly an hour from now, and will include the final five rounds - three through seven - of this year's draft.

The Buffalo Bills had an... is 'interesting' the right word?... start to the draft on day one when they added four prospects that few saw coming.  The good news - the Bills have drafted at least two starters (guards Eric Wood and Andy Levitre), a serious contributor to the pass rush (DE Aaron Maybin) and a player that could potentially start at free safety on opening day (DB Jairus Byrd).  The bad news - the Bills still have glaring holes at tight end and linebacker to address.  Day One Recap

Buffalo traded its third-round pick, No. 75 overall, to the Dallas Cowboys in order to move back into the second round to pick Levitre.  Therefore, the Bills currently only have four picks throughout the remaining five rounds of the draft and won't pick today until No. 121 in the fourth round.  So we've got some time to kill.

We mentioned the continued need for a linebacker and a tight end.  One other place to keep your ears peeled today is the trade market.  WR Roscoe Parrish, DE Chris Kelsay and FS Ko Simpson have all been mentioned as being on the trade market in recent weeks, and especially in the case of the explosive Parrish, the Bills may be able to pick up an extra selection today via trade.

Just as we did yesterday, we'll have new posts up for each newsworthy item related to the Bills today.  In the meantime, this is your spot to discuss the early portions of today's proceedings.  Thanks for stopping by, and we'll see you in the comments section!

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Good morning.

Brian Galliford, I challenge you to a game of horse shoes........A game of horse shoes!!

by jj24 on Apr 26, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Back in the 3rd Round

With Cook and Neilson still being availble the bills need to find a way back into round 3. After steping back and looking at Day 1, we have addresses several holes. Drafting Byrd to play Free Safety may have not addressed a need although we may look back in a few years and say it was a great pick.

If I am at OBD I find a way to draft one of the TE’s that are available. Maybe Roscoe and either a 4th or 5th will get the Bills back into position. I don’t like the chances of finding an impact player at 121.

by Northern Bills on Apr 26, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How would the line look if Levitre was one of the starters? It didn’t sound in the press conference like they had a specific spot for him…. just depth for the tackles and guards.

On the other hand, I got the impression Byrd could start fairly quick at FS.

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We Need Tight end.

ANd most definatley not the dregs of the position that will be available in the late 4th. trade up guys, salvage this draft.

by BuffaloChip on Apr 26, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're kind of reaching on Byrd

If Byrd plays FS and the Bills are happy with Scott’s play at SS where does Whitner go?

by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You’ve got it backwards. Whitner will start, period. At strong safety. Byrd could start at free, and they’ll use Scott frequently as well. They mix and match their DBs all the time. Now they’ve got a playmaker to work with.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whitner better at FS?

I agree that the combination of Scott and Whitner did a solid job. I don’t think Donte is a great SS. I believe his skill set would be better at FS. I thought Scott did a solid job on some of the top TE’s in the league and did a solid job in run support. I think it was an area that didn’t need to be addresses so early.

by Northern Bills on Apr 26, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In this scheme, the difference b/w FS and SS is negligible. I completely agree with you that Whitner should spend more time back in coverage than he does in the box; I’ve been saying the same for two years. But just because he’s playing “SS” doesn’t mean he won’t do some of that. I’m OK keeping Donte where he is if it means we’re starting an actual playmaker at safety. I REALLY hope Byrd is that guy.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like scott. he played well. plus he’s got a big strong body…

by chaucer on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evaluation

Has anyon evaluated Whitner’s play at SS versus Scott’s. I was just very impressed with Scott last year. I think Brian has it correct when he says Whitner will move to SS, but I question this. Wasn’t it OBD who moved Whitner from SS to FS in hopes of him showing his first round talent (playmaker). I disagree with Brian, I think this is a moderate indictmetn on Whitner. He did not show playmaking ability at FS last year and will now be moved back to SS, where I actually think Scott outplayed him. He looks like what we thought he was when he was drafted, a reach, and not a top-notch talent.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with Brian, I think this is a moderate indictmetn on Whitner.

I only ever said Whitner would start. :)

Might be a good idea to move some of this discussion to the thread below; this is going to get cluttered fast, and we’re still a half-hour away from the start of round three.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian's Correct

I am not above admitting my ignorance, Brian is correct on the FS and SS not being much different on the cover 2.

The two safeties are responsible for covering their respective halves of the field from 20 yards out and more. The safeties in the system are expected to be above-average cover men with the ability to break up passes, but each safety also is expected to have additional specific skills. The strong safeties, while not expected to be great tacklers, are expected to be hard hitters. The hard hitting strong safety protects the middle of the field from being exploited by small, fast receivers, and running backs on wheel routes, by intimidating them to not run their routes in that direction. The free safety will be called upon to do one of two things in certain situations, either blitz the quarterback, requiring him to have the skills necessary to beat a blocking halfback or fullback, or to assume the coverage zone left by a blitzing cornerback.

"It's that time of the year where all teams are involved in making some, to a degree, painful decisions." - Marv Levy

by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whitner officially becomes another first round bust...

…after spending the majority if time on the bench during the second half of the season.

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After a day to let things settle in my head......

I have looked over the Bills draft and I am now, to this point anyhow, comfortable with what OBD did on day one. As disappointed as I was with them reaching, imo, for Maybin @ #11, I am very very pleased with the drafting of Wood and Levitre. With Wood and Levitre added to the O-line mix I feel it helped solidify a glaring need of the Bills. As mentioned yesterday I just have a feeling they will move Butler outside to the RT spot where he played in college. If that is the move they make and they put Wood at LG, Hanger CTR, and Levitre earns the RG spot, MAN, that gets me excited. It could be one of the meanest lines in football….in a year or two of course. The jury is still out on the Byrd pick, but, being that I dont know as much about him I cant speculate any further. I was disappointed in them taking a cb that early, but, if they plan on moving him to FS, I can now see their reasoning behind making that move.
All in all, I am happier today than I was yesterday. I have officially stepped back from that ledge I was on. :-)

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Apr 26, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is good to hear

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaring needs

This was my contention when we traded Peters. OBD did not have the foresight to understand that trading away Peters, releasing Dockery, releasing Royal, letting Crowell walk, etc. created just far too many holes to be filled.

Honestly, past Pettigrew, I am not thrilled with any of the TE’s out there. I think I would be much happier with OBD picking up one off the waiver wire or counting on Fine.

As for LB’s unless we move up to get someone like Freeman from OSU, I don’t think any of the other options are better than Ellison. I again think the waiver wire for a veteran OLB would be a better option.

You (Brian) leave out the most glaring need, and that is LT. We do not have a LT on the roster. I am O.K. now with not taking Oher, I read too much hype. Gerinomo’s take and the fact that he dropped so much proved to me there was something fishy there (where there’s smoke there’s fire).

Having said that, the main reason we will have issues this upcoming season will not be because of our LB’s or our TE’s, it will be because of people blowing up whomever (probably Walker) fills in at LT. I am starting to love our interior, and don’t get me wrong, I actually was warming up to walker at RT, he just is not a LT.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’ll agree that Walker at LT is… risky. But since J. Smith/Monroe/A. Smith were already gone when the Bills picked, there really wasn’t an OT (that OBD liked) that could come in and be an immediate starter on the left side. It’s a weakness, but not something the Bills could fix unless Andre had slid. LT should be on the long-term priority list, and hopefully Bell continues to develop. But I’m OK with Walker knowing that he’s a smart guy and knowing how sturdy a blocker Fine is.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am glad they didn't take Oher

He seems like a head case, especially his comments about being the best OT… I am really glad that our FO kept to their board.

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by keysh67 on Apr 26, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Byrd is old friends with Fewell...

…and it looks like the Bills wanted someone in the secondary that can actually catch a football, but there were too many other holes to fill at that spot.

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roscoe

I do know that we aggressively marketed Roscoe yesterday—both in our attempts to move up to get Pettigrew and again in the move to get Levitre. No bites. Perhaps with the stakes lower today—they’ll have better luck. As for LT and the need to get a developmental guy—I don’t think anybody left has more promise than they think Bell does. I think, unless something totally unexpected comes up—we need to just accept it’s going to be Walker. Quick—who played LT for the Super Bowl Cardinals??? Mike frigging Gandy that’s who. Uggggh. I KNOW its s critical position, but it’s not like we have a total zero there.

Geronimo

by Geronimo on Apr 26, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I will just accept Walker right now. I am with you on Bell, but people shouldn’t get too excited for him to move to LT this year, won’t happen. Butler won’t play LT either, as they moved him inside because he wasn’t very athletic.

The Cardinals and Gandy, I have said that before. In retrospect, I actually think that providing enough options to Trent allows them not to keep as many defenders in the box. This could be why the Cardinals were so successful with a mediocre (at best) line.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a great point

But that doesn’t mean I have to like it!

by Mark Parisi on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OBD

What I don’t understand is that when OBD was convinced (probably early on) that they were not going to be able to renegotiate with Peters they didn’t move quicker to trade him so they could fill the whole in FA (Pace, etc..

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tackle vs Interior

I do know that tackles are generally drafted higher than interior linemen, and that tackels are usually a safe pick, but does anyone know the success rate of high round picks at tackle vs guard and which position is ready to start faster?

Regardless of which specific line position is drafted, I like the fact that the O-line is now a lot more versatile. One of these picks may not be ready day one. One of the veterans may have accelerated or decelerated their development more than expected. This draft speaks to those variables.

by liquefaction on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So who do the Bills pick at 121?

or do they trade back into the third round and take an OT, LB or TE?

Round 4, Pick 21 (121) (From Eagles)
Round 5, Pick 11 (147)
Round 6, Pick 10 (183)
Round 7, Pick 11 (220)

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

trade back to get Nelson

and bring in Leroy Hill to fill our SAM hole

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Apr 26, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant

This year’s crop of Center/Guards was quite deep and OBD got in my opinion 2 of the top 3 interior linemen – not bad at all for a days work. While other teams were looking at the 4-5th best tackles, we were lucky enough to be stocking up on potentially great interior linemen. Last year we were pathetic at Center. We play in a division with really great NTs and being able to solidify the line interior the way we did was an incredible job.

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that if you rounded up all the experts and asked them to list the top five interior linemen in this draft, Levitre and Wood would be on every list.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For sure.

And Todd McShay said he likes our draft so far. Good value picks and addressed the pass rush and OL. Didn’t mention Byrd../..

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Smith said the same thing.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

Smith said Byrd was a good pick, good value.

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~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think are 2 pressing needs now are TE and LB in that order. Believe it or not I think if we can make a trade for another 4th rounder with Parrish or Krlsey, I think we can get both in the fourth round. Lets see who slides. After all, who thought Everett Brown, William Beatty or Ray Magleuga would fall as far as they did.

by The Irishman on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jets trade with Detroit

Jets on the clock

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mel just compared Sanchez’s arm to Pennington’s.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jets get a RB, they need one if Sanchez is going to have a noodle like arm

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, does that spell the end of Thomas Jones?

by The Irishman on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just insurance if jones continues hold out over contract

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a good pick

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know but he not the starter right away if jones is there

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need a powerful backup. Leon Washington is a nice player, but he isn’t the grinder type that Jones is.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like me new pic

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mayock??

You could have stuck with Mel.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but i’ll like mayock also and i used mel at first because everyone hates him so much

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doubt what?

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KC is probably taking a TE here...

unless they already took one, I am not sure…

by SebastianPruiti on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They took Brad Cottom last year out of Tenn

by The Irishman on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chief’s take DT from Purdue

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jarron Gilbert to the Bears

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We have got to....

Find a trade partner for Parrish. If we dont, we are going to have to cut one of our wr’s and get nothing for them. That would be the worst case scenario imo.

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by Hambone on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They kept Justin Jenkins last year, so they could cut him…

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parrish

You have to remember, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to keep this guy. He is pretty amazing in open space.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think if Byrd can return punt it will make everyone a little happier about that pick.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we dont’ selcet for 52 picks damn

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

52 × 5 minutes =260 minutes divided by 60 = 4 hrs and 20 minutes until the Bills pick.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for cheering me up

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make some nachos, get some beers and hold tight.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

got leftover wings and pulled pork from party

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even better

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K can start crying. Micheal Johnson just got picked by the Bengals

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's ok

once we passed on Everette Brown, it was unlikely they’d go after another pass rusher anytime soon…..

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

finally woke up i see.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Just sitting on the couch sweating

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bengals having nice darft

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I live in Cincy...

and I hate the Bengals. They do have a great draft so far. Would anyone trade our draft for the Bengals draft to this point?

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bengals draft looks really good on paper so far, but I don’t know how I would feel about the Bills going into the 4th round without any interior linemen added. I think its a toss-up. There’s a reason why Michael Johnson lasted till the 3rd round, or Rey lasted till the 2nd.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points

I like out draft I just thought it would be interesting to bring up.

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raiders pick Matt Shaughnessy, DE from Wisconson

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it’s almost as if they’re throwing darts at the draft board.

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they should fire the scouting dept and just by the draft magizine to make up their big board

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would save Al some money

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and get him some better players

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are picking guys with good name recognition. 2 years from now there whole draft could be boom or bust!

by The Irishman on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ditto.

On another note, I hope the Bills are able to trade Parrish, Kelsay, or Simpson and get back into the 3rd round. I would love for them to pick Cornelius Ingram and fill that TE void.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do people keep bringing Simpson up? He’s a bad player who the Bills will be cutting in a few months who was arrested in the offseason. He has zero value.

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrance Knighton to Jacksonville. Joe P. is weeping

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what do we take next olb or te

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would say OLB

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will James Casey or Chase Coffman last until 4th?

With the guys below probably going ahead of them, it could happen I hope.
Cornelius Ingram
Shawn Nelson
Jared Cook

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You can keep Coffman away from my team.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alot of teams don’t like how ingram acl was fixed

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is there anyone on the board at TE that is better that what we have?

..a good blocking, pass catching TE has been something the Bills could use…

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pettigr….oh wait

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Common trend so far

A lot of the name-recognized players are being passed on so far in the 3rd round. A lot of the picks so far today have been graded in the 30s and 40s by Scouts, Inc. Just goes to show you that the media scouts and the real NFL scouts live in two different worlds, and you really can’t judge a draft until at least 2-3 years later.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cowboys pick would have been ours.

Is their someone you would rather have then LeVitre?

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really. They could have gone with a tackle like Codagan, or Merideth, but I would rather have the best guard then the 6th or 7th best tackle

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the Levitre pick as well, and I think we probably could’ve gotten Byrd at 75

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but there’s a reason why I’m not working for an NFL team

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nelson te

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but i love levitre pick

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I HATE THEM!

~K
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by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The internet is down in all of western NY. Probably explains why there is so little traffic right now.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Byrd pick caused an overload.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

An overload of joy?

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

…ummmm no

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least this doesn’t impact those of us outside the area like it did in the Charger game – that was torture!

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got caught up that.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are well into the 3rd round and only two TE’s have been taken. And one of them is Richard Quinn. Looks like most teams aren’t valuing the more one dimensional pass catching tight ends very highly.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same thing last year.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m glad someone just took Antoine Caldwell. I was worried the Bills would pick him too. Like the year they picked 3 corners.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just hope and pray either Marcus Freeman/Tyrone McKenzie, Cornelius Ingram, Jared Cook or Shawn Nelson will be on the board, when we draft.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Apr 26, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At the rate this draft is going, I think it will be a good bet.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throw in James Casey for Cook too….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I have a game worn jock strap to trade you for those two slugs.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I was the Bills I’d make that trade. I’d even throw in Ko and he’s worth millions.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know that I’d call Parrish a slug. I’m actually shocked that he hasn’t gotten some interest.

Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!

by UtahBillsFan on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a good PR, but what has he ever done as a WR. I really feel like the Bills can get good punt returning out of McKelvin/ Jackson/ and now Byrd. Parrish is an overpaid player that this team doesn’t need.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parrish

His stock seems to have dropped and other teams are not interested in a proven return man who has led the league in yards returned average?

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're talking about Crabtree on ESPN right now

I have to wonder, had the 49ers passed on him, what would the Bills have done? Take him? Trade down? – I’m sure there were teams that would’ve loved to move up for him but maybe that’s a wrong assumption on my part. Or still take Maybin? (assuming the 49ers hadn’t taken him already)

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they would have still taken Maybin, unless some team blew them away with a trade offer.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th round

Where is Buffalo’s pick in the 4th round? I can’t find it on ESPN DraftCast.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

"It's that time of the year where all teams are involved in making some, to a degree, painful decisions." - Marv Levy

by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

21st pick in the 4th. It’s on the NFL.com draft tracker.

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by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one they got form Philly.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant #121 overall

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can’t start a comment with the # sign. It screws things up.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah ok. Good to know. thanks

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lion continue to show why they're in the bottom of the league

No linemen (offense or defense) picked so far in 6 selections I believe?

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they should have looked at a lineman or two.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

instead of pettigrew.... :-(

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They picked Delmas in round 2

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Patriots select

Brandon Tate

Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!

by UtahBillsFan on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Belichek needed a new connection to get his weed.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno about weed...

but he dresses like a hippie/hobo on game days..

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but yea, I agree with you

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Delmas is a safety I thought

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are still a ton of pass catching TEs and tackling machine outside linebackers left. I’m not sure if they will need to move back into the 3rd round to grab one of those guys, but guys like McKenzie left at LB and a ton of TEs. I know a lot of people are somewhat mad about the last two picks, but they are showing that they realize that you have to build a team from in the trenches and thats what their doing. A solid o-line is the key to it all.

I always look at the Giants as a comparison. No offense to Manning fans out there, but I don’t think he’s very good, and with the solid line that they boast, Manning was an All-Pro and the running attack was unstoppable. Good picks if you ask me, and finally 2 playmakers on defense. This wasnt going to be a flashy draft anyway.

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a run on WR has begun

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re right he is, I thought you just said defense. Yea they need some guys on the line. They have the opposite idea of the Bills

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eagles on the clock

Is this the pick that the Bills could’ve had instead of the 4th this year and 6th next year according to many rumors I heard? If so, who would you pick here? I gotta go with Cornelius Ingram, or Tyrone McKenzie/Marcus Freeman

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eagles trade pick to Giants…hhmm maybe the TEs will be there

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No TEs yet in the 3rd...

It’s getting near the point where 121 plus Parrish/Kelsay/Simpson might let Buffalo get into the end of the 3rd….or at least into the early 4th

by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s getting to the point where we might not need to trade up. Would be nice to get rid of Kelsay or Simpson though.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

35 picks til the Bills are on the clock again

Lots of TEs and LBs will go in those 35 picks.

by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else think we should trade Ko Simpson to move back in. I’m not a huge fan of Kelsay’s production/Kelsey’s contract, and I feel similar about Roscoe. But I think they are a lot more valuable to our team than Ko Simpson. With the drafting of Byrd in the 2nd round may say that they are getting rid of Ko.

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's worthless

The reason you want to get rid of him is the reason no one else wants him.

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants take Ramses Barden, bug WR to replace Plexico.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Giants select Ramses Barden, Plaxico mold

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jinx…haha

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mine was in a full minute before yours.

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Kelsay isnt that good. But I think Ko may be even worse

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s nice watching the linebackers and tight ends continue to fall. The sad thing is we will probably take a running back or wide receiver.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually speaking of CBs – DJ Moore is still available.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha spoken like a true Bills fan

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Run on TEs

As everyone can see, all it takes are two teams to take a player in a given position for their to be a “run” on any position. I would get my hopes up on a choice of TEs being there at the end of round 4. I can see a run on TEs starting at Philly with pick 27 in round 3.

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope so. And it looks like we may be able to get a solid OLB or pass catching TE in round 4, although Im still voting to trade Kelsay or Simpson to get back into the 3rd.

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m voting to trade Kelsay or Simpson just to get rid of them.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McShay just dissed the Dolphins for taking Turner.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is his value?

When would Sinbury from Richmond be considered a good value, early fourth?

by telka on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure the Bills go that way after taking Maybin

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by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to trade Roscoe...

for a third round pick to take a TE. I hope OBD is calling every team as they are on the clock to see if they have interest in Roscoe.

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is everyone here down on Coffman?

He catches everything thrown his way. I like him as much as Cook and Nelson. I see a TE run coming like the WR run that is currently happening.

by S2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t like him because he never blocks. He was split out as a WR 95% of the time in college.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jaguars drafted Kiper’s 106th rated CB. He rates 106 corners?

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s all he does with his life.

by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mel Kiper is so smug I hate him...

This guy was my 109th corner…why are teams drafting him? I’d love to just punch him in the mouth once…

by SebastianPruiti on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing the Bills didn’t take a TE in round 2….. there was no need to.

Now’s the point where maybe you try to package the 4 and 5 for someone you like.

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There’s a reason why none of these media pundits would ever get hired by an NFL team

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would pay Mel to be a scout for my team, the guy knows a lot about the draft and is correct more often then not. He is smug though.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I strongly disagree...

I hope that was sarcasim. Mel is horrible. He is wrong more often than not. He is a complete wind bag.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like McShay but he kind of has that Salisbury effect, as he says that anything he thinks is definitely right.

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

trade to titans from pats

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pats traded down again….

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

first TE gone..think coffman is still legit

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jared Cook off the board to the Titans

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TE run

Here it comes!

by Stew002 on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And teh TE run begins

Just too much talent at TE for teams to ignore any longer

by Ron From NM on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta to take a TE? I dont think so

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta wont pick a TE...

but I can see Philly and Indy taking a TE

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris Owens CB, SJS

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But they took a WR……

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pats get another 2nd rounder

For giving up a 3rd this year.

They’re so impressive running a draft. I don’t think they choose the best, but their positioning is second to none.

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of weird picks in this round.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mel was talking about that before. Saying that he has seen a lot of reaches this round.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These teams clearly aren’t using Kiper’s, McShay’s or Mayock’s rankings. What is wrong with them.

You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.

by PerryTuttle22 on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah…jerks

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

da da da

I wish ESPN would just show highlights of the guys being drafted instead of talking about guys who are immature.

by S2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

check out nfl network, you can watch it live online. a lot better than the ESPN coverage IMO

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nfl network shows highlight with most picks

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie is left, and some quality TE talent, who do we go for at #121?

by NJBillsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we let the board dictate. If there’s more similar TEs left, but there’s a big drop off at LBs, then you take McKenzie.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here comes the patriots love fest

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pat had four 2nd round picks and already have picked up 2 more for next year.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

morning fellas..........

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morning sunshine!

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing like waking up and seeing the Pats still doing their thing.....

and getting picks for 2025 and crap…….ugh.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy.....

there was a crap load of CB’s and WR’s taken this round……..

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone is going to offer a 4th for Roscoe...

once a team is interested in a WR, but none are on the board.

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFL Network v. ESPN

NFL Network will also show “bad” video of some players when talking weaknesses.

Where else would you rather be...

by Slick Shifty on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill Cosby looks very old.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pats with Te here?

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie to the Pats

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol........

one of Qwan Cosby’s friends probably called him to say……..DUDE you are on TV……

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This Bill Cosby segment is weeeeiiiirrrrddd.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im waiting for him to bust out with...

“jello puddin pops”

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erin Andrews is lucky she hot

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any LB’s left besides Follett and Freeman?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maiava from USC has made some noise

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too small for my liking

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah him

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the 4th USC guy who’s name I will not even try to spell.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely awkward…..

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie from USF is still on the board right?

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope – the Pats just took him. And Coffman is gone too.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pats just took him

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coffman to the Bengals

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peace Coffman

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor Matt, Coffman is gone

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Chase with TE...

I brought this up before… should we trade drafts with the Bengals. How about now?

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Replace Maualuga with a Guard, then maybe....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s hope Nelson keeps slipping….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or James Casey.........

thats who I want

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

one of those two would be excellent picks

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ingram is still the best available IMO. He’d be in a good situation in Buffalo if he lasts till our pick – he won’t have to come in and contribute right away on offense but he has the most potential of any TE this year I think. Next year after T.O. is gone, he could become the security blanket for Trent.

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How many drafts have we gone now saying we’re going to get a legit TE and left the draft without one? And please don’t talk about Fine PLEASE

by telka on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They wanted Pettigrew and that would have solved that problem

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t that his point?!? Haha

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IO was agreeing with him….

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who in the heck are the bills going to take now….maybe they feel good about Fine and Schouman

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

225 lbs right?

I want Follettin the 5th

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

listed at 228.......

from what I see……but he’s 6-1 so he probably could put on another 7-10 lbs I think.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Beckum has his stocked dropped that far after his injury?

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he just got picked

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL........

too funny.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy fella, there are still some players in this draft that can help

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have drafted every position on their team within the first three rounds for the last five years EXCEPT for the TE. Look it up.

by telka on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Everett was a 3rd rounder in 2005

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just about to type that.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then I stand corrected…I forgot how quickly they replaced him too

by telka on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guy don’t have to be a 1, 2 or 3 round pick in order to be good.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah plenty of first rounders flop every year.....

while 6th and 7th round pics are going to the pro bowl.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they’ve definitely proved that one with the impressive roster of late drafted TEs we’ve had. The best late pick TE we had became our left tackle LOL

by telka on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peters was undrafted

by DCBillsBacker on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn’t exactly ‘replace’ him

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sarcasm. I get this way every draft. It’s the only way I can cope. Can I get a hug

by telka on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea I guess that is true….they must not be too high on TE’s. I still think it would be nice to get someone down the middle of the field. As far as security blanket Trent has a ton of them now, in dump off guys like Rhodes, Jackson, Lynch, and the Dereks. Reed is good underneath as well. I guess they don’t like TE’s playin a major role in the passing game.

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you know.........Erin Andrews is my number 1 pick.......

but Rachel Nichols is someone I would pick up in the 2nd

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Into the 4th round

TE: Nelson, Casey, Ingram
LB: Freeman, Follett
OT: Meredith
DE: Sidbury

I think Chip Vaughn is still out there too…could have gone the SS route, oh well.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Intersting cowboys pick.. with McGee

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Freeman or Ingram for me

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d be happy with Casey or Nelson too I guess

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

W

We can’t be overly upset with the Bills draft because especially in the 3rd round, there have been guys “rated much lower” that have been drafted in spots where they supposedly don’t fit. We all (including myself) get brainwashed by guys like McShay and Kiper…when they are wrong a lot of the time.

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling the Bills will pick ILB Jason Phillips from TCU….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wonder why NFL tickets prices rise?

look at the Lions $72 million deal with Georgia QB Matthew Stafford…

by LGB on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No prices rise because people pay the prices

by Pistol on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jaws is a bigger tool, he just said that there is a little run on QBs….There has been one taken.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 more than there was before....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe P says Brian Hoyer

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is relaxing with a hottie….Hoyer not Joe.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamon Meredith – OT from South Carolina could be a decent pickup here as well

by Renegade23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Giants draft doesnt really impress me..........

but…….i said that a couple of years ago too, then the rooks helped em win the SB

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need to find a way to trade up to get Nelson

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone else expecting another completely random pick?

by billsct11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES... I was just thinking that.

I bet Nelson, Casey and Ingram will be on the board and we will draft a RB or something b/c they had him as the best available LOL

by hilliarddavid on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They won’t pick Nelson, or any other guy that we would like. We will more then likely have never heard of the guy the Bills pick

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you mean like the Raiders 2nd Round pic?

I doubt it will be that bad.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly the Bears were to take him 2 picks later.....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that bad, but it will be out of left field

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they will go OLB

by BigUgly on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys still have 2 4th rounders

and haven’t address WR/KR yet….Could a trade for Roscoe be percolating??

I doubt it since one is our original 4th rounder…..

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bye bye Maivia.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply