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Which Bills rookie will have biggest 2009 impact?

The Buffalo Bills' 2009 NFL Draft rookie class is receiving high grades both here and elsewhere in the football universe.  Though none of the team's draft picks are of the high-profile, name recognition variety, the Bills earned extra credit for drafting as many as six players that could start at some point next season.  Those six players are...

DE Aaron Maybin: He's raw and very inexperienced, but his top-notch speed and athleticism will make him an asset as a speed rusher from the outset.  Has the potential to make big plays and create pressure consistently.  Potential is limitless.

OG Eric Wood: Smart, versatile, tough and intense player that immediately slides into a starting guard slot - most likely on the right side.

FS Jairus Byrd: Highly productive college cornerback was brought on board for his ball skills.  Considering the Bills' lack of a playmaker at safety, he's got a chance to be the starting free safety on opening day depending on how quickly he assimilates to his new position.

OG Andy Levitre: Much like Wood, he's a smart, versatile, tough and intense player.  He will be given every opportunity to earn the starting left guard job in training camp.

TE Shawn Nelson: Buffalo has not had a tight end with his athleticism and matchup-causing skills in years.  In an offense that could use as many playmakers as possible around QB Trent Edwards, Nelson will see some work from the TE position as well as in the slot on occasion.

OLB Nic Harris: Very productive college safety at Oklahoma that will be making a position switch.  Again, this is a smart and super competitive kid, and he plays a more physical brand of football than the rest of the 'backers competing for the starting SAM spot.  Don't count this kid out - he may very well beat out several others for the starting SAM 'backer role in the pre-season.

No, we're not counting CB Cary Harris or CB Ellis Lankster, because let's be honest - they'll be making this team based on special teams merit, if at all.  The floor is now open to you, Rumblers - which of these six rookies do you believe will have the biggest impact on the Buffalo Bills in 2009? (Note: we did not lump the two guards together because it's not a lock that both of them will start.)

Poll
Which 2009 Buffalo Bills draft pick will have the biggest impact on the team's success/failure in 2009?
DE Aaron Maybin
364 votes
OG Eric Wood
463 votes
FS Jairus Byrd
101 votes
OG Andy Levitre
38 votes
TE Shawn Nelson
418 votes
OLB Nic Harris
37 votes

1421 votes | Poll has closed

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Hopefully Nelson

Realistically, Maybin or Wood will have the biggest impact on next years team. Maybin will most likely be flying around the field wrecking havoc for ~20 snaps a game and Wood will mesh right in with the O-line. The thing is, we don’t need Maybin to have the biggest impact. Our defense was held a respectable rank last year (14?) while our offense has much ground to make up (ranked 25th in scoring). I believe a standout year from Nelson would go a long way toward fixing that.

by Moneyballer23 on Apr 29, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah i agree i think nelson is in position to have the biggest impact, but...

i voted for maybin, because if he can even get 5 sacks, and half a dozen qb pressures that will creat turnovers, and he has the abililty to do this himself, and we do only have 50 sacks in the past 2 years which is at the bottom 2 or 3 in the league.

i was thinking wood possibly but he is just one guy on a 5 man unit, i think the additions of the 3 interior guys all around will make a huge impact, and i think that wood may be the best of those 3.

then i thought maybe jairus byrd, because of his ball hawking ability and probably being a day one starter, but then again i had to go w/ the psu boy in maybin.

my 2nd choice would have been nelson, but being a rookie te not many make much noise, and the same w/ maybin at DE, but w/ so many other weapons i’m just not sure if the coaching staff will give him the opportunities he needs to really make and impact and utilize his skill set the way they should.. but w/ trent liking his te so much i am really happy we have this athletic guy who has great hands route running and can actually do something after the catch..

by Shovel51 on Apr 29, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on Nelson

Maybin could develop into a real sack artist over time, but DE’s typically take a while to adjust to the NFL, so if the question is his impact in 2009 I suspect it will not be very significant. Nelson, on the other hand, could make a real impact for the offense, which is the unit most in need of help. Two things about him suggest that to met. First, he was known in college as a clutch receiver who could be counted on to make big plays when they were needed (he also has a history of dropping easy balls). That suggests that he does well under pressure and will be more likely to produce his first year. He is also an exceptional downfield blocker who loves to knock over LB’s and SS’s. In that part of the blocking game he is actually better than Pettigrew (who is great in-line but has trouble hitting moving targets). That’s the kind of skill that can make a huge difference in terms of whether or not a play succeeds, and I won’t be at all surprised if he makes a major contribution that way.

by Macktruck on Apr 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many WRs make the transition in year one?

You can ask him to be the safety valve or a blocker but honestly how much is he going to be able to contribute in the passing game right away? Especially with Evans, TO, and Reed ahead of him in the passing game not to mention Fine on the depth chart. He also may have to contend with Hardy and Johnson for snaps in the passing game.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 30, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harris just has my attention for some reason. Big time school, lots of production and a great attitude. Along with surprising a lot of people by starting week 1 I think he’ll do some serious damage on special teams as well.

I know FOR A FACT that you cannot triple stamp a double stamp.

by Scrumtrulescent on Apr 29, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you've got something here

Yeah Harris could wind up being a beast, looking at an old post on Sports Illustrated from the last real game and challenge these guys had- the Senior Bowl, this is what Tony Pauline had to say about Nic Harris.

“Harris has been flawless in Mobile since making the transition from his college position of safety to his projected NFL spot at outside linebacker. He’s showed a lot of explosion, speed and has forced the action up the field while also making plays sideline-to-sideline.” http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/01/21/senior.bowl.day3/index.html

Unfortunately here is what he had to say about Andy Levitre-
“The Beavers starting tackle comes off a terrific senior season but has been anything but in Mobile. He’s struggled at a number of offensive line spots and was beaten or run over by defensive linemen in drills.” http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/01/21/senior.bowl.day3/index.html

Levitre has alot of upside and potential but this could go down as another bad Buffalo second round pick. with a player that has no immediate impact. (Roscoe Parrish, John McCargo, James Hardy)

by MichiganBillsFan84 on Apr 29, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to belabor your point

but McCargo was a 1st rounder – we traded up to get him too! Arghhh!

by freddyjj on Apr 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly from the little i've seen of levitre, he just looks chubby and sloppy (physically sloppy)...

he doesnt look like a road grader nasty blocking guy, i havn’t seen that from what little i have seen.. but i’ve read good things about him from scouting reports so i am just giving him the benefit of the doubt.. he doesn’t look like he moves his feet well, at least not at tackle, so he may be a completely different guy at guard, and like i’ve already said i havn’t seen much of him so that’s why i have been believing what i ready.. and i hope tony pauline is wrong, and i hope my first impressions are wrong..

by Shovel51 on Apr 29, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

leave it to beaver....

Levitre, they showed his highlight tape….let me just say it was awful. I really scratch my head on him. Granted that’s only based from the 2 min highlights. But comparing him then to Wood it’s like night and day. I’m not so sure Levitre will come in and start. In fact, if I were a betting man I’d put my money on Bell or Chambers getting the nod ahead of Levitre

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by MARVelous on Apr 29, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re basing that opinion off of one 2-minute highlight film??

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

its a highlight tape and it was awful. I realize I lose credibility with that statement but whoever is putting his highlight tape together has no clue, or he doesn’t have any highlights

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by MARVelous on Apr 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

what the hell do i know about OL!

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by MARVelous on Apr 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel fairly comfortable guessing that the Bills had a bit more to watch than one little highlight tape. :)

The guy can play. Whether or not he starts immediately is the big question, obviously, but he’ll eventually be an above-average starter.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 29, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to give him the benefit of the doubt too

Maybe you’re right maybe the Senior bowl was a fluke like Aaron Maybin’s combine and with training Levitre will bounce back to a good guard for buffalo.

Bye the way how do you program those sweet statements to be at the end of your post?

by MichiganBillsFan84 on Apr 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Levitre

Check out the USC vs. Oregon St game, he had a good one.

by NorCal BillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the reading I've done on Levitre...

…it seems like most of his “shortcomings” pertain to him playing the left tackle position. (lacks lateral speed, poor technique against speed rushers).

His “positives” all seem suited for the position he will play with the Bills.

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Apr 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Highest Rated Guard

We are estimating based on our little knowledge of the guy. Many outlets, ESPN, Scouts, Inc., etc. pegged him as the number 1 guard in the draft.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 29, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bye the way how do you program those sweet statements to be at the end of your post?

A) Click on your ‘MichiganBillsFan84’ username
B) On the top right of your profile page, click ‘Edit Profile’
C) Fill in your ‘sweet statement’ in the ‘Signature’ field, scroll down to the bottom of the page, and click ‘Update.’ :)

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 29, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i definately have to agree w/ marv.. i think i saw the same tape.. it was w/ him playing tackle but he just look sluggish and slow.. looked a lard that didnt' move real well..

i don’t know i just know i wasn’t impressed, but all the scouting reports have him as the best guard or 2nd best… so i have given them the benefit of the doubt.. and have been thinking maybe he’s just not fit for tackle and he will shine at guard.. but i don’t know.. i’ll assume the bills saw much more of him than i did and they know what they are doing..

by Shovel51 on Apr 29, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want to say

I voted Nelson because of the impact he will have on trent and the offense, as that has the most room to improve, but just to say how good this draft might be, you could very easily have the first 5 rookies starting in the next year, but at the least three (saying not Nelson, and Levitre possibly stuck behind Bell, because of the one year more of experience).
Don’t much about Harris to think he’ll beat out Ellison or whoever else, but we’ll see

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by killascript on Apr 29, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Wood is the surest bet as he's a lock to start imo

Maybin is going to be situational….

Levitre will have to prove his worth in order to move Butler out to RT

Byrd is situational

by tiimbitz4786 on Apr 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybin

double digit sacks and we are going to the playoffs!

by labill on Apr 29, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS?? YOU WANT TO TALK PLAYOFFS???

sorry couldn’t resist – I voted for Wood. Probably safest pick amongst these guys and thats why.

Nelson I hope gets some starting time and I hope he’s a matcup nightmare for opposing d’s. Maybin I still think will make an impact – just not sure to what extent. I’m willing to give him a few years though – I think he’ll be a monster in 3 years for sure

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by J2 on Apr 29, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Name a rookie who has had double digits sacks....

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 30, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shawne Merriman
Kamerion Wimbley
Mark Anderson
Derrick Thomas
Hugh Douglas
Reggie White
Kevin Williams
Charles Haley
Terrell Suggs
Julius Peppers
Simeon Rice
Jevon Kearse
Dwight Freeney
Santana Dotson
Darren Howard
Peter Boulware
Dana Stubblefield
Chris Mims
Mike Croel

I’m sure there’s more too

~K
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by Kurupt on May 1, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, you are a passrushing junkie

by CanadianBillsFan on May 1, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering how far back it goes it's a pretty short list...

but it’s still a lot longer than I thought it would be.

Most sacks by a rookie in history
14.5 Jevon Kearse, Tennessee, 1999
13.0 Dwight Freeny, Indianapolis, 2002
12.5 Leslie O’Neal, San Diego, 1986
          Simeon Rice, Arizona, 1996

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by MattRichWarren on May 1, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybin

we had no qb pressure last year, maybin is gunna be all over the young qb’s in the afc east.

by billsoferie on Apr 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Young?

Like Brady and Pennington

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by killascript on Apr 29, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should not have narrowed it down to the east

by billsoferie on Apr 29, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you mean the Jets?

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by J2 on Apr 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha sorry, i misspoke.. we play a few young qb’s this year, but my point was that i like him and i think he can apply pressure on any qb that we play

by billsoferie on Apr 29, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know i guess i was thinking how nice it will be when maybin is all over sanchez and got a little too caried away…it was my first post, i dident really think it through.

by billsoferie on Apr 29, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Byrd

FS Starter Day 1.
Season Line
6 INTs – 1 Pick 6
2FF
2FR
2 sacks
1 Punt return TD

That would be 14 big plays as the Pick 6 counts twice!
A man can dream can’t he?

by freddyjj on Apr 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

The scary party is that those numbers are entirely realistic. Especially when you consider the WR’s that he’s going to go against. Outside of NE, the chances of getting a few FF anf a few FR are very possible. The sacks are a bit of a stretch though, but only because of how we use our safeties. I’m really warming up to this kid and I can’t wait to see him play.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pick 6

INT returned for TD.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybin

If he has 3 sacks, he’ll have had more of an impact than Kelsay.

by Mark Parisi on Apr 29, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I said Levitre because of Walker at the LT position. I think that while Walker will be a competent LT, he will need some help with some of the speed rushers (as has been noticed). I think if Levitre pulls down the LG position he will be expected to help protect Edward’s blindside. Because Edward’s development and health is the primary spot where this team will take the next step forward, I voted for Levitre.

by pozzed51 on Apr 29, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

everything i've read, and heard from jauron and others on the staff are saying that wood will step in at LG

brian is the only one i’ve seen say that wood will be the RG and levitre LG, i mean that is still possible.. but as of right now all reports, and everything coming from OBD has wood stepping in at LG, which is the more important LG position especially w/ a player transitioning to LT.. wood is the better player i’d rather have him on the left side..

by Shovel51 on Apr 29, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wood is expected to play RG. Better listen to this interview

Go to this site and look for the Wood interview (fourth from the top)

http://www.whtk.com/cc-common/podcast.html

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by Joe P. on Apr 29, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key to this year for Trent?

Step up in the pocket…the middle should be fine…but speed is coming around the edges

by tiimbitz4786 on Apr 29, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybin could start...

I know Kelsay is a so-called leader and vet, but if Maybin is out performing him and making huge strides against the run….you will see Maybin starting quickly…maybe not at the beginning, but certainly by week 8, and not to mention the injury prone DEs we have, such as Schoebel and Kelsay

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by killascript on Apr 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

wouldn't count on it

OBD has already made it pretty clear he’s situational for now…hope he is much better than anticipated though and you turn out to be right

by tiimbitz4786 on Apr 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

OBD said that he will start out as a situational guy and that thats how they PRESENTLY intend to use him. But if Maybin starts to show any ability to stop the run, then he should surpse Kelsey as the starter.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

they always say that sort of thing now...

wait till camp and we’ll see, if he’s better, he starts…and i see it no other way

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by killascript on Apr 29, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hence the “present” plan for him.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am legitimately upset. I wanted to vote for Lankster, he’s got an unbelieveable ceiling and should have been picked in the first round.

by NJBillsfan on Apr 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i sense

sarcasm

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by MARVelous on Apr 29, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now what would give you that idea?

by NJBillsfan on Apr 29, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a tough call. But I'll go with Maybin.

Not because I think he’ll get a lot of sacks, expecting anything more then 5 sacks out of a rookie is a reach, but because he will cause a lot of pressure and that pressure will cause plays elsewhere, maybe even help Byrd get a few INT’s. I see both those guys being on the feild at the same time A LOT. I love this kid (Maybin)

But Nelson should make an immidiate impact at TE, I’m expecting at least 500 yards from him. And Wood and Levitre are both top notch guards right out of the gate. With these 3 added to the Offence, and with the addition of TO and Rhodes, I’m expecting our offence to be in the top 10 of the league, at least. Anything else would be a disapointment.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

How can you expect that out of Nelson?
But Nelson should make an immidiate impact at TE, I’m expecting at least 500 yards from him.

How many starting rookie WRs have that many yards? When was the last time a Buffalo TE had 500 yards? We don’t even know if the kid will be starting.

He’s a great player but that’s expecting a lot out of him.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 30, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

500 isn’t that uncommon with rookie WR, at least not the top ones. And thats what I see Nelson as, one of the top rookie receivers/TE from this class. Ok 500 may be a bit of a stretch, but it is attainable if he gets enough snaps.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 30, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We see him that way but he was drafted in the 4th round.

I am just trying to temper the expectations for Nelson and Maybin.

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by MattRichWarren on May 1, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok so I guess you’d rather have more realistic expectations? Ok then…

Maybin: 30 tackles, 12 TFL, 5 sacks
Nelson: 35 catches, 300 yards, 3 TD’s

More realistic?

by CanadianBillsFan on May 1, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I will admit myself that the first numbers that I gave Nelson were high. I was looking at rookie receiving numbers when I said it, but that included WRs and TEs. When I looked at just TEs, the numbers dropped drasticly.

I guess a good season for a WR is a 1000 yards, but a good season for a TE is closer to 600-750 yards. 1000yards TEs are few and far in between.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are realistic numbers...

at least in my book.

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by MattRichWarren on May 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i voted Nelson

not because I typically would, but in an offense where he won’t or shouldn’t be asked to block much in year 1, all he has to do is go up against LB’s and Safeties and with 4.5 speed and a lanky basketball frame he should be able to do damage in the passing game if Trent builds rapport with him in the pre-season. Wood will have an impact for sure, but if Nelson can finally do what Hardy was supposed to do last year, and be that over the middle, and in the red zone. I mean there is NO REASON that Nelson when going one on one with LB’s, that he cannot win those matchups. Nelson in theory should have instant impact in 2009

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by MARVelous on Apr 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I wanted to vote for...

Duke Preston, he will have the biggest impact. Not having him, and Fowler, on team will gives us an extra win or two

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by gregeng on Apr 29, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I may have included him, but this was a rookie poll. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great

That’s perfect! Wish I said it first!

by mavadjdj on Apr 29, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for Nelson.

He shouldn’t be asked to do much blocking on game day, i would think. This should give him ample opportunity to catch passes down the seam. However, he does have to contend with Evans, Owens, and Reed.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure about that. I won’t even pretend to know, but perhaps not as i’m sure there are less plays that involve the TE (in most offenses).

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for Wood but...

Considering he may be the starting LB on the weak side, it’s not a stretch to say he will have the biggest impact.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 30, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goose's Joke of the Day:

Three Californian surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed. One of them said, “I’m the best surgeon in California . In my favorite case, a concert pianist lost several fingers in an accident, I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England .”

The second surgeon said, “That’s nothing. A young man lost an arm and both legs in an accident, I reattached them and two years later he won a gold medal in track and field events at the Olympics.”

The third surgeon said, “You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a woman was high on cocaine and marijuana and she rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the woman’s hair and the horse’s ass. I was able to put them together and now she’s Speaker of the House.”

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by Joe P. on Apr 29, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I read the questoin a little differently than it was suppose to be read. I voted Nic Harris and Nelson was choice 2 for me. If Wood failes we go with Levitre, Bell or Chambers (same w. Levitre). Maybin wont be a starter and if Byrd failes we go with Scott. Therefore, Harris is the most critical to the success OR Failure.

by Berg79 on Apr 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy One.

Wood. Two reasons. First—Terrific player. Second. Leader. Leader. Leader. Born Leader. Natural Leader. He has “it.”

By his second year he will be well on his way to being a prennial Pro-Bowler and the acknowledged heart and soul of the team.

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by Geronimo on Apr 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah – I went the easy way out too :)

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by J2 on Apr 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

G, how do you really feel?!??! Everything about Wood is to love. I just hope to God Trent has some consistency in him in 2009! Stay healthy #1, and be consistent #2

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by MARVelous on Apr 29, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah this is a hard pole between nelson, wood, and maybin i believe..

and the only reason i didn’t pick wood was because he is only 1 lineman out of the 5, and w/o the other 4 doing their jobs whether he does his or not doesn’t mean a thing

by Shovel51 on Apr 29, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I picked

Wood as well, he needs a solid year for our O line to perform well. And I think he will!

by mavadjdj on Apr 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Byrd and Levitre

I voted for Wood because he’s a huge upgrade that will be on the field for most offensive snaps, but Byrd would have been my second choice. I was surprised to see he and Levitre graded so low.

As a Bill’s fan living in Oregon, I would like to let you all know that these two are both dynamite on the field. Byrd will fill a big hole at safety and I would not be surprised to see the total number of team picks jump up noticeably. Don’t judge his playing speed by the 40 time…..this guys has terrific anticipation and smarts.

And for those of you judging Levitre on some highlight tape……go get the tape of OSU putting the hurt on USC. He will eventually start for the Bills

by rdusa on Apr 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

he might start right away

Throw these rooks in the fire if they have the strength, although it might be Chambers at LG

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by killascript on May 2, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to go Nelson,

I hear he was a steal in this draft and personally feel that he will be a solid contributor for us, for Trent, at a much needed position.

Wood and Levitre look like beasts.

Maybin could be a hot DE for us, or he may not.

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by NYTXFAN on Apr 29, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Byrd

I have to admit at the time of the pick I wasn’t too happy. However, after having time to think of it I believe that Byrd will have the biggest impact this season.

by NolaBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted for Wood

Maybin, Byrd and Nelson won’t start. Hopefully they will grow into their roles as the season progresses. Levitre figures to be in a dogfight for a starting role. Wood should start immediately. I loved his introduction interview, particularly the part where Wood talked about wanting to ‘punish’ defensive linemen. Music to my ears!

As an aside, I really liked Maybin’s interview as well. He came across as well spoken, humble and had an appreciation for the Bills’ previous defenders. He doesn’t seem the sort to boast, which I really like. Let the play do the talking.

by Ron From NM on Apr 29, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I have been vocal about liking both those guys interviews.

Trent, Wood, Maybin… these guys give great interviews and they are easy to root for. Now we just need to work on Marshawn…. although he did give a great interview to Kenny Mayne.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 30, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey hey

greetings from The Phinsider, the Miami Dolphins blog, which is the best team and blog in the division (just stating a fact)…lol, anyway, just wanted to say that the Bills had an excellent draft IMO, by picking up Maybin and Wood, guys who I feel will be impact players, if not absolute studs, for a long time (hopefully, they won’t be on the Bills for a long time =P)…Byrd will be fierce and would do a nice job patrolling the field and making it hard for opposing QBs to throw the ball, i really like what i saw outta that kid…not too familiar with the other guys, but picking up a TE was a good move for you guys, especially with a young QB controlling the offense…i feel that a young QB needs a good, reliable TE as a safety valve, which is what the Bills got, from what i understand of Shawn Nelson…btw, i thought Eric Wood was a Center, is he changing positions, or am i just wrong?

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome!

Thanks for the respect. I’ll toss a bit back your way: Pat White, quite literally, terrifies me – on paper, of course – as a Wildcat quarterback. That offense did good things for you last year, but it was one-dimensional. Now it’s not – and that’s not good for us.

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by Brian Galliford on Apr 29, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha yea

i figured you guys (and the rest of the division) would be shaking a little when we drafted him…and yea after a few weeks it was starting to be less effective, i mean there is only so much you can do with Ronnie Brown as “QB”…he not a very good thrower obviously, and now with Pat White, a guy that can throw and run, it opens the formation and possibilities sooo much…i really can’t wait to see how the coaching staff opens it up now

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-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question for you, Phinsider

When do you think you’ll see defenses brutalize QBs who line up at the WR position? If I was the defensive coordinator I’d have a LB or SS smack the QB in the mouth each and every time he lined up anywhere but under center.

by Ron From NM on Apr 29, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Maybin be perfect in that capacity :-)

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by Joe P. on Apr 29, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

haven't thought of that

but i think that coaches are more worried about figuring a way to at least contain this and then eventually stop it, that they haven’t really thought about it…and plus they want those LB’s and SS’s in the box stopping the run, the QB is pretty much a non factor running down the field as a WR or in the Wildcat in general…and also i think the league would quickly put an end to that practice if that does start to happen, as we all know this league is very intent on protecting the QB at all costs…i don’t think coaches will really think about it or do it IMO…o and also Chad Pennington was told by coaches, that if someone does line up against him to just run out of bounds immediately, thus negating the defenses ability to hit him

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-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you that the QB in the wildcat (like a Pennington or Edwards, not a guy like White) is a virtual non-factor on that particular play. However, the QB is a factor on every other offensive pay. Why not abuse him when it’s legal to do so?

There is a 5 yard chuck rule for WRs. If the QB is lined up as a WR a defender can take a free shot at him. Of course,I don’t know that the league would have to look at rule changes. I think it’s more likely that Pennington or Edwards would wobble back to the sidelines and tell the coach that he’s never calling that play again.

If you think Pennington or Edwards is fleet of foot enough to get out of bounds (isn’t it a penalty to go out of bounds and not make an attempt to come back onto the field?) without getting hit, think again.

by Ron From NM on Apr 29, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, pushing and shoving is ok, a QB

but to flat out take a hit on a player, any player, who is not involved in the play would be unnecessary roughing, and would be a personal foul

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate it when you guys are right.

I have great admiration for how you guys run the Wildcat btw. One of the funnest offences to watch…. wel when your not playing us anyways.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah thanks

unfortunately i am on the west coast during the season and dont get many opportunities to watch them, lol, you prob have seen it more than i have lol… luckily though we have a few primetime games this year so I, as long as the rest of the country, can see how its really supposed to be run =)

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

this league is very intent on protecting the QB at all costs

Technically, if you don’t line up under center (or in shotgun) you are not the QB, correct?

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by Joe P. on Apr 29, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea but QBs

have that green dot on their helmets now, and i feel like the league would make some kinda rule preventing cheap shots against them, no matter where they line up

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you want the QB to be untouchable no matter what he does or where he lines up on the field?

I knew Fins fans were soft, but man….how about instead of a green dot on the helmet, we have them wear a dress?

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by Joe P. on Apr 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no thats not what i am saying at all

i am against all these rules to protect the QB, i think some of it is outrageous…but the way the league handles the QB, u gotta think they’ll make some kind of rule like that

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

and BTW the green dot only means that the player has a radio in his helmet. MLB’s now have them too. 1 player on offence and one player on deffence is allowed to have a radio, there’s no rule that says that it has to be the QB or the MLB though.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i know that, but on offense

it is always the QB…

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 30, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen it on anyone else then a QB on offence, but I’ve seen a few OLB’s and DLineman have it on the D.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 30, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Knock

The QB on his ass once, he’ll be begging not to line up like that again. I think its a great idea. Just like hitting a goalie outside his crease. Your safe in your blue paint, leave it and die. Guess I shouldn’t use hockey metaphors for Miami fans.

by mavadjdj on Apr 29, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunatley, they changed that rule at the college level :-(

Can’t hit the goalie at all.

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by Joe P. on Apr 30, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but the NHL has no problem with it, so it’s a valid comparison at the professional level. If the QB is dumb enough to put himself in that situation (as in involve himself in the play as opposed to staying at the line after the snap) then it should be fare game to tackle him like you would any other receiver. Maybe applie the slide rule as you do when the QB takes off with the ball, but tackling him should be legal.

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

o and also Chad Pennington was told by coaches, that if someone does line up against him to just run out of bounds immediately, thus negating the defenses ability to hit him

lol, chicken!

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha gotta protect the QB

Edwards would prob be told the same thing lol

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 30, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but we don’t run the wildcat :-P

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 30, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

you guys should prob think about it

eh, on second thought…lets keep it that way

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-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 30, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

we do

Remember when Freddie got the shotgun snap a few times last year? It was a very basic “Wildcat”, but we still ran it.

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by Kurupt on Apr 30, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok you got me. What I should have said is that we don’t run it to the level that the Phin’s do. Us it’s more of an occasional trick/gadget play, for the phins it’d a base formation.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well nobody runs it like that!

Well, maybe Baltimore did when they put Troy Smith in and Flacco at WR.

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by Kurupt on May 1, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m willing to bet that the Phin’s will use it like that this year with Pat White.

Line up WHite as a WR with Pennington at QB, then run a no huddle while switching White to QB. I honestly think that theres a good chance that we see the college style wildcat be run by the Dolphin’s as one of their formations this year.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 1, 2009 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

White is going to be a helluva player for you guys. I’m not afraid to say that he terrifies me. But at least the rest of your team doesn’t ;-)

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

well after you see us play

you’ll be thinking differently =)

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 30, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah theres nothinglike some friendly competition…. PHIN’S ARE GOING DOWN!!! lol

by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 30, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope you'll be down

we’ll be on top with our foot on your throat…or i guess in this case our fin on your throat

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 30, 2009 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, we’ll see about that.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 1, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was a center during college, he will be asked to play guard for us

by NolaBillsFan on Apr 29, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea alright

that is what i thought, cause i was pretty damn sure that during the draft they were saying he was a center lol…just wanted to make sure i wasn’t going crazy lol

-"I'll weather whatever storm, Make it out without a bruise"
-"Even when winning illogical, losing is still far from optional"
-"Even the greatest gotta suffer sometime"
-"No excuses, No explanations"
-RIP John "Fumbles" Beck, you will be missed

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 29, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which 2009 Buffalo Bills draft pick will have the biggest impact on the team's success/failure in 2009?

Seems like a different question than who will have the biggest impact this year. Wood could start every game and have a very solid year and we still go 7-9. If Maybin comes in and gives us big-time, game-changing plays he makes our defense better by leaps and bounds. If he’s a bust (doubt it), we wasted the 11th overall pick. Which would have to be considered a much bigger failure for the 09 team.

by Dreaded on Apr 29, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

If I could vote for both guards I would....

but I voted for Wood since I know he will start. The offense needs to get better. That narrowed the list down for me. Nelson, while incredibly talented, was a nice luxury addition to me since I like Derek Fine a lot. Nelson, like most WRs, will make a contribution this year but not an astronomical one. With all the upgrades to this offense, if the OL can smash some guys, we have a chance to have a really good offense.

But mark my words… if Nic Harris starts at OLB this season for more than a game he will be the impact rookie of the year.

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by MattRichWarren on Apr 30, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

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