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Is Versatility always a plus?

I have to admit I've become almost numb to any new post about the Oline, but there's one aspect to the Oline that no one has yet discussed (as far as I've seen).  Actually, it's been discussed, but it's always mentioned in a positive light.  However, I see a potential downside.  It's in this little word called versatility.

I'm actually very positive about the additions the Bills have made to the Oline in the offseason (Hangartner, Wood, Levitire).  But I keep hearing how great it is that the Bills have picked this or that player because he is versatile (can play a number of positions).

Ok, I'm no line expert, but isn't the teamwork and communication on line calls hugely important?  How big is it if someone is making mental errors because they're used to their responsibility at one position, only now they've had to switch to another?  With all the position switching occurring on this Oline, there has to be a downside in consistency.  Can't the Bills have a few players who play one position and play it expertly? 

I know that depth is needed for the sake of injuries, but I just can't kick this nagging feeling that switching the position of every player on the line has a significant downside, and that no matter how smart these players are, the resulting confusion could be detrimental to Edwards' health.

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Concept, Concept, Concept

Its all about the concepts, if Butler were to move from Guard to tackle he would understand who he does not have becuz he had that guy or zone as the guard. And these veterans have been in the system so it is not that difficult. Levitre and Wood will be the ones to worry about understanding the scheme of the offense. But as for switching from LG or RG… not a big deal. And for the switch from guard to center and in Levitre’s case T to G; these are move footwork based due to the fact that guards pull/trap and run block and have zone steps compared to tackles that normally post block on the back side or just go straight up on the DE.

Hope this sheads some light on ur question

by danntheman on Apr 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I understand that it’s possible. I’ve been in numerous non-football situations where I understood from all sides exactly who was supposed to do what, and had to carry out different roles at different times, but in the middle of the battle, fighting instincts because of changing roles is easier said than done. That’s really what I’m getting at.

And my point definitely included the concern for the two rookies.

by thefourwinds on Apr 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can understand the concern, but these guys are paid professionals. Well, they’re going to be, anyway. Would you invest millions of dollars and spend a high draft pick on someone if you had concerns about mental errors happening in game day situations calling for a guard to move to center? You have to believe OBD has done their due dilligence here.

Besides, isn’t the nature of line play that you know what the guy next to you is supposed to be doing? The C calls the blocks at the line; he knows what all five guys are supposed to be doing. If a player were called on to move to a different position, they’d still know exactly what their assignment was, both because of the line call and the knowledge of what they’d expect someone else to do at that position.

I just find it hard to believe a position switch could be the cause of mental errors at the professional level.

by Mark Parisi on Apr 30, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You are absolutely right and at the same time you are very wrong

You are absolutely right, it is much better being great at one thing than simply good at many. Like the old saying good at many master at none.. you are right.

Where you are wrong is that they chose Hangartner to play center because that was his position with the Panthers (albeith in a backup role) but more importantly they felt having the veteran of the trio calling the plays would be better than a rooky. They don’t intend on switching them around from what I can see, they firmly intend on having Levitre at LG and Wood at RG unless one of them really does not perform up to the expected results. Once they get acclamated to their new roles they should become quite proficient at them. Getting guys that have played multiple spots provides you long term options like for example Butler, who is like Brian says our best overall lineman (and I agree) who played RT in college and has played RG for us but now we need to switch him to RT and we know we can because he is versatile. Once he is in his new role, he won’t be flip flopping. Really versatility is good in the long term over their career not necessarily in the short term game to game.

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by keysh67 on Apr 30, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah i definately agree keysh..

and it’s not like we are the only team in the NFL doing this, teams only dress 7 o-lineman on sundays so you have to have guys that can play multiple positions. and as other posts have said these guys are paid professionals, and usually the smartest group on the team as a whole, and usually the smartest guys on the field other than possibly the qb, possibly. they aren’t going to be at LG and forget and play as if they were at RT. they will be fine, and the rookies will have plenty of time to get acclamated. in the woods interview he doesn’t seem the least bit concerned about he position switch, and heck in college levitre played both guard and tackle positions, so i’m sure he’s not too worried about .. it’s just part of the game and something that has been happening w/ offensive lineman forever…

the toughest thing wont be learning their responsibilities but getting used to playing next to different guys, especially in a zone blocking scheme they have to get their footwork down not only individually but w/ the guy next to them, as well as knowing the amount choke the guys playing on either side of them need in order to get a good fit on a defender.

by Shovel51 on Apr 30, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the toughest thing wont be learning their responsibilities but getting used to playing next to different guys, especially in a zone blocking scheme they have to get their footwork down not only individually but w/ the guy next to them, as well as knowing the amount choke the guys playing on either side of them need in order to get a good fit on a defender.

I agree with this – the kind of thing I was talking about. The more people are switched around, the worse this is.

Of course, the only thing that really causes game-by-game switching is injuries.

by thefourwinds on Apr 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Physical vs Mental play on the Line

Each position on line requires its own set of physical abilities. A center must get the ball back, his hands up and feet set as soon as possible. He needs to get position on the man across from him immediately. If he doesn’t, he’ll cut block or take out the NT at the knees. Tackles need to be quick and have good arm strength to fend off the outside rush. Guards need good leverage to deal with the big guys in the middle, and agility to pull and move off blocks up to the second level (linebackers).

In terms of mental play, from my own personal experience, the best line acts as if it has one brain. I’ve played on lines where the guard and tackle bicker like a married couple. That usually resulted in problems for our backs. Communication and agreement is key. In order to know your own responsibilities and carry them out, you need to know what the man on each side of you plans to do. Like others in this thread have mentioned, its all in the system. Every player, to some extent, knows what everybody else on the line will be trying to accomplish on each play. Throw in line calls and pre-snap communication, and you have a set plan on how to block the current play. It then falls on the defense to blow it all to hell. All players should be able to MENTALLY play each position on the line. In my opinion, if they can also play numerous positions, that’s a huge benefit to the team.

by Moneyballer23 on Apr 30, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It is important to note when the position changes are happening...

It’s not like it’s in four days of practice. They have all of OTAs, minicamp, training camp, 5 preseason games. They will have plenty of time in their new role to be ready to roll.

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by MattRichWarren on May 4, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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