Ranking the NFL Draft's defensive end prospects
As the 2009 NFL Draft approaches, we here at Buffalo Rumblings will continue interviewing bloggers and consulting outside sources in putting together detailed scouting reports on some of the Draft's most noteworthy prospects - concentrating, of course, on prospects that could pique the interest of the Buffalo Bills. This post continues a series in which I'll rank prospects at each position; ultimately, this project will roll itself into the "Buffalo Rumblings Big Board", which is exactly what it sounds like - the same type of big board NFL teams keep handy on draft day.
We've already ranked the tight ends, linebackers and interior offensive linemen. Full rankings of those positions, as well as all positions, will be made available prior to the draft, which is just under three short weeks away. What follows is a ranking of the draft's best defensive end prospects - an area that is still a huge concern for the Bills.
FIRST ROUND PROSPECTS
1. Aaron Maybin, Penn State: Lightning quick, very productive and highly controversial are the three best ways to describe Maybin. A polarizing figure because of his inexperience, his size and the amount of polish he'll need to become an every-down NFL starter, Maybin has by far the most potential of any pass rusher available this year. Whether that potential will be enough for the Bills to consider drafting him, however, remains to be seen.
2. Everette Brown, Florida State: Nearly as quick as Maybin and a bit more experienced and productive, Brown is equally polarizing as he's not yet considered an every-down 4-3 end prospect. He does, however, also have elite potential as a pass rusher. Like Maybin, 3-4 teams will be looking at Brown as a potential OLB prospect, which may not even make him available to the Bills at No. 11 overall.
3. Brian Orakpo, Texas: His name has cooled of late, but Orakpo still remains an athletic marvel with top pass-rushing skills. He's dealing with an "underachiever" label, however, as he was relatively run-of-the-mill through his first three years at Texas. This is another guy who many consider to be a better 3-4 prospect right now than a 4-3 end.
SECOND ROUND PROSPECTS
4. Larry English, Northern Illinois: Hey, look! Another productive speed rusher that 3-4 teams will covet! Unlike our first-round prospects, however, English has a lot more experience defending the run in a 4-3, but comes with less athleticism and a lower ceiling. English is going to be a very good pro, but again, is he ready to contribute on early downs if he goes to a 4-3 team?
5. Robert Ayers, Tennessee: Ayers is flying up draft boards for one reason: he's big, experienced, and the best every-down 4-3 end available this year. That fact alone has driven his stock up to the point where he very well might be Buffalo's - as well as many other 4-3 teams' - top consideration at the position this year. Don't label Ayers as lacking talent, though - he may not have the athleticism of the top speed rushers this year, but he's quick off the edge and can get after the passer. He's just not going to be a perennial league leading sack artist.
6. Connor Barwin, Cincinnati: The tight end-turned-defensive end has also climbed up draft boards to the point where he'll be a first-round consideration. He's another speed rusher that's not ready to contribute on every down in a 4-3, but he's a hard-working player with great intangibles - which will make him appealing to the majority of NFL franchises. He's an outstanding athlete that will also contribute immediately on special teams.
7. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech: Of the many "boom or bust" prospects available at DE this year, Johnson has both the biggest boom potential as well as the biggest bust potential. Easily the most outstanding athlete of the group, Johnson had a rather mediocre college career. Questions remain about his love for the game and whether he can turn it on in the pros. It's going to take the right situation for Johnson to realize all of his vast potential. Buffalo may not be that situation.
Four more names to chew on after the jump.
THIRD ROUND PROSPECTS
8. Lawrence Sidbury Jr., Richmond: He's going to fall into the "speed rusher" category right out of the gate, but unlike some of his bigger-name peers, Sidbury has the size to eventually develop into a top-flight every down end for a 4-3 team. He's raw and is making a serious talent jump from tiny Richmond, and it might not be wise to expect much production-wise from Sidbury as a rookie. But again, there's a large amount of potential here.
FOURTH ROUND PROSPECTS
9. Cody Brown, Connecticut: He's small, fast and wonderfully athletic in his lower body - which means that a 3-4 team will roll the dice on him much earlier than the fourth round. At 244 pounds, Brown is another guy who would contribute only in specific situations as a rookie. (Getting a theme here, folks?) But his speed off the edge is outstanding, and he'd be fun to watch in a Tampa 2 scheme as a pass rush specialist.
10. Phillip Hunt, Houston: Speed rusher. Good off the edge, low center of gravity, has a good amount of potential. Just like 90% of the ends available this year - except he wouldn't cost an arm and a leg pick-wise.
11. Paul Kruger, Utah: Eleven names in, Kruger is the second end on this list that might resemble an every-down player right out of the gate. He'll likely go before the fourth round because of it. Kruger ranks low here because he's entering the NFL as a 24-year-old rookie; add in his marginal pass rushing skills and his uncanny resemblance to the current ends on Buffalo's roster, and he's not exactly an enticing prospect (to fans, anyway). Buffalo needs to complement, not duplicate.
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This is just my opinion, folks. These are the top eleven defensive ends in the draft by my book, but an alarmingly small number of them can be considered something more than situational players as rookies. Whether we like it or not, the Bills aren't likely to look for a situational player in the first three rounds - and they're not likely to draft more than one end this year.
If you think I've made a grievous error in these rankings, let me know. If you think I've got some sort of hidden agenda, I'd love to hear about it. If you're itching to re-shuffle my rankings, let it rip. Consider this an open forum on 2009 NFL Draft defensive end prospects. Go.
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tyson jackson???
did you forget about tyson jackson? He is a first rounder for sure
by tripl21 on Apr 6, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s a 3-4 DE all the way. I don’t see him being a consideration for the Bills.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just curious
I was just wondering because most other DE prospects were up there…i agree with you about him being a 3-4 end…also very hopeful we can get brown because i think he is going to be a stud
by tripl21 on Apr 6, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Tyson Jackson listed as a DT, because that’s essentially what he’d be in Buffalo.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good list Brian
I’d personally have Brown ahead of Maybin by a hair. It’s basically 1 and 1a in my book with those two.
I’d have Ayers behind Barwin and Johnson. I don’t like anything about Ayers, at least when it comes to his fit with the Bills. We don’t need another run stuffing, pass rush limited player. This guy didn’t produce much in college as a pass rusher, I’m not counting on that changing in the pros.
Sidbury seems to have all this potential, but I’m not buying it yet. He does have good size and good speed numbers, which is very, very intriguing, but I don’t like that he never really dominated at his level and is being described as a good pass rusher, but not great. Is this guy flying up the charts because of his workout numbers, or is he actually a very good prospect?
I’d rather have Brandon Williams than Kruger. I want nothing to do with Kruger. If he’s a Bill, I will be livid.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want nothing to do with Kruger. If he’s a Bill, I will be livid.
Well, that wouldn’t change much, would it? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most mock drafts have Kruger going in the second round, usually at the very start of that round. Most people in the NFL regard him as a major talent, but because there are a few resemblances to Chris Kelsay (also some big differences) Bills fans seem to be prejudiced against him. Mike Maycock, one of the more reliable judges of talent among the NFL pundits, has Kruger as the fourth best DE available this year. I suspect the Bills have their eye on him, not only because they had him in for a visit, but because he fits their defensive scheme very well.
by Macktruck on Apr 6, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree that he’s going to be on Buffalo’s radar. He might even be the #2 or #3 DE on their board.
And just because I rank him lowly doesn’t mean I dislike him. I think he’s a good player. I just don’t think he’s great, and as you may have noticed, I tended to favor speed rushers in these rankings simply because I believe the Bills need a different type of athlete at the DE position.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would also like to see them get a speed rusher. Connor Barwin, anyone? But Kruger fits what they want so well for a DE in a Cover Two scheme since he has great mobility in space (unlike Kelsay) and can turn on a dime. The reality is that we are going to be stuck with a Cover Two-style defense so long as we have Perry Fewell as our DC.
by Macktruck on Apr 6, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Dick Jauron is our coach.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have Ayers behind Barwin and Johnson. I don’t like anything about Ayers, at least when it comes to his fit with the Bills. We don’t need another run stuffing, pass rush limited player. This guy didn’t produce much in college as a pass rusher, I’m not counting on that changing in the pros.
I feel 100% confident that he’ll sit atop the Bills’ board at DE. You’ve got three weeks to warm up to him. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay, can’t wait for the redundancy!
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know we had a run stuffing DE on our team. I agree that we need DE’s that can rush the passer but if we don’t have ends that can play the run effectively we are only partially addressing the position. Although Ayers isn’t as effective a pass rusher as Mabin or Brown he is a better pass ruher than what we have now. My concern with Maybin and Brown is that they are Tweeners and one dimentional.
by gjv on Apr 6, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although Ayers isn’t as effective a pass rusher as Mabin or Brown he is a better pass ruher than what we have now.
If that’s the case, he sure never proved it at Tennessee. 9 career sacks, only 3 in hi senior year, he sure seems like another LDE that will give a team next to no pass rush help.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you get a chance to see the replay of the Tenn. vs. Florida game you might change your mind.
by gjv on Apr 6, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it!
I missed that one! Seriously. Do you know where I can get a copy?
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your cable provider carries the Sunshine Network they air Florida games during the off season.
by gjv on Apr 6, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I was expecting zero to no chance of watching that game. The NFL offers “Game Rewind”. I wish there was something similar for college football games.
Coach’s tape is better than the TV broadcast because you can see the full routes, coverages, etc.
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Big 10 Network also shows games, I believe….
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know they show live games, but I’ll have to check and see if they also show old games (previous year, classic games, etc.).
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, I never saw it. When was it? In this year’s Tenn/Fla game, Ayers had 2 tackles, and just 2 last year. What exactly did he do that was so great?
Even if he did play well in one of those games, it’s still ONE game. Where have his pass rush skills been his whole career? I’m not saying he’ll be a bad pro, but I don’t think he’s the type of player we need.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played well in many games. But your missing the point. My concern is Maybin and Brown are Tweeners and could end up being one dimentional DE’s. To me drafting either one No. 11 is very risky. I would hope Buffalo has an opportunity to trade down, pick up an addiyinal No.3 and take Mack No.1 and Ayers or Johnson No.2 if they decide to go DE No.2. My preference for No.2 would be G. Robinson.
by gjv on Apr 6, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"My preference for No.2 would be G. Robinson."
Duke Robinson?
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His real name is “George”.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
I didn’t know that.
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s also related to (great nephew, maybe?) Smokey Robinson.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting tidbits.
Baseball in his bloodlines? I can’t imagine Duke lining up to bat, though. HaHa.
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
… no? That’s Jackie Robinson. Smokey Robinson is a famous R&B artist. Motown Records. Blah blah blah.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops.
My bad.
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smokey Robinson....
not Jackie…. Is coming to the Rochester International Jazz Festival this year. It’s a pretty big deal. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, he is geromimo's pick if the Bills go DE in round 2?
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by Joe P. on Apr 6, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who are you referring to?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, that was supposed to be under your post, Brian.
How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?
by Joe P. on Apr 6, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about Ayers
How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?
by Joe P. on Apr 6, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha.
Geronimo will have to answer that one. Obviously.
It makes sense, though. When has this regime ever targeted the type of speed rusher that this draft class is full of?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never ???, which is one reason I was not on the DE at #11 bandwagon this season
If you remember, I called this group underwhelming.
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by Joe P. on Apr 6, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do recall you saying that. And I think ultimately, OBD will agree with you. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I hear you say "100% confident", for me that means "geromino said to me off the record" :-)
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by Joe P. on Apr 6, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Yeah, no, this one is all me, though Geronimo’s most recent FanPost didn’t do anything to hurt the belief…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When has this regime ever targeted the type of speed rusher that this draft class is full of?
Why do you think this FO doesn’t regard pass rushers as important? That’s exactly what it looks like and that’s what the results have been as well. It’s too bad they rate defensive backs so much higher than pass rushers in terms of importance.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think this FO doesn’t regard pass rushers as important?
I don’t really understand the question. I’m sure they do view pass rushers as important, just as they view every other position as being important. They just go about addressing it in a way that you and I don’t necessarily agree with.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we may not be correct in how we’d address the pass rush, but I think we can say the team hasn’t been correct either. To me, it just appears that the pass rush is not as important as other areas, and I was just wondering how you felt about that.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah. Yeah, I don’t think it has much to do with how important the position is so much as the type of player they prefer. More on that on the front page in about, oh, four minutes…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
it comes down to their view of how to “play” games. Dick Jauron believes you hold teams to 17-20 points and you win. I think he’s betting on his offense scoring 21-25 pts/game instead of 17-20 which it has the last few years. He believe more points, more leads, will lead to a better pass rush. I just hope we come out of this draft with a SIGNIFICANT player for the defensive front 7. I don’t care what position, DE, DT or LB, but we need a difference maker there so badly.
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by MARVelous on Apr 6, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll disagree with your first comment, but that’s a conversation for a different day.
This conversation really belongs in the current front-page post. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut down corners have been prized over DE for years. Just look at the difference in their contracts. However I will agree with you that our front office doesn’t have a clue in building a winning team. Someone needs to tell clue them in on the importance of building lines.
by gjv on Apr 6, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Barwin at #42 big time!!
I’ve liked him since the beginning. He open all these eyes after his pro day which is too bad but hell the secret is out he’s a great ball player!
I’d be cool with Hunt or Kruger in rd4. In our system, it’s so important to have a DE that is good against the run that I can’t see them going to a one-dimensional guy. Kruger does resemble Kelsay a bit but consider this K, if we’d get him we could flush Kelsay and his huge salary and at least we would have a replacement that plays the run well, costs a ton less and still has the potential of improving his pass rushing skills. From what I’ve read of this kid, he plays with a relentless motor.
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by keysh67 on Apr 6, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
… at least we would have a replacement that plays the run well …
That would be an improvement over Kelsay.
by syrbillsfan on Apr 6, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree i think that barwin is in a similar mold of clay mathews, as far as versatility and athleticism.
I don’t really want kruger or hunt though, i think we need to go DE before round 4
by Shovel51 on Apr 6, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, and what I’ve been harping on (haha), we need pass rushers. As much as I want Chris Kelsay looking for work elsewhere, I don’t see how Kruger helps our most dire area, the pass rush. 50 sacks in two seasons is pathetic, we need someone that can bring pressure.
Now if we’re talking about an early pass rusher and a guy like Kruger late to get rid of Kelsay, you can sign me up for that, but with so many needs it probably isn’t happening.
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by Kurupt on Apr 6, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barwin belongs in Buffalo. Dude runs a 4.5 40, how much more speed is there?
by dzil on Apr 6, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we could find anyone that could play the run and rush the passer, Kelsay should be gone then. I hope we get who can fit the bill.
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by Deadpool71 on Apr 6, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whether or not
Good morning Gents (and any avid lady Bills fans out there). I just wanted to say I LOVE all of your work. I do have a critique, though it has NOTHING to do with football. Brian, I’ve heard you’re a spelling freak, so I hope you don’t take umbrage with this.
As an attorney (and having been taught in law school by an editor of Black’s Law Dictionary who actually had the nerve to correct a US Supreme Court Justice on his grammar), I try to stay away from the phrase “whether or not”. The reason is simple-it’s redundant. As that law professor drilled into my mind (even though I don’t always comply) all you need to say is whether. The not is implied upon the uttering of whether.
So…there’s your grammar tip of the day boys and girls. And as always, keep up the FANTASTIC work!
by BBFan4Ever on Apr 6, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I love it! Keep these things coming, folks. Seriously.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo Rumblings: Come for the football, stay for the increasing-in-frequency grammar tips. Haha.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Apr 6, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
That’s like 5 in three days. I did use affect properly in a sentence the other day! It’s a big step for me. It’s all thanks to BR!
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good list!
I hope we decide to go DE at 11, but if we wait until the 2nd round i would be very happy w/ barwin, or Johnson, i’m also not really high on ayers but wouldn’t necessarily be disappointed if the bills decided to go that route in round 2. and if we wait until round 3 sidbury sounds like he could really be a steal, i know that as you said it would be a large jump from college to the pro’s for him considering the talent level he played against, but that still doesn’t take away the talent that this kid has, and i’m sure he would come in w/ something to prove and his work ethic is probably through the roof.
as i first said i hope we go DE at 11, if orakpo is there i think we take him, he is the most nfl ready DE and probably the best all around DE in the draft. This statement is coming from a huge psu fan, so if not him i’ll take maybin and be very happy w/ the pick (personally i dont think we coudl go wrong w/ maybin, brown or orakpo). It’ll be interesting to see how it all turns out, because unfortunately i have a feeling that bills are giong to go in a different direction than DE at 11 come draft day.
by Shovel51 on Apr 6, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love to get Michael Johnson in the second round.
6’7", 266 lbs. Definitely looks the part. Chiseled physique. Tremendous upside. Has natural pass rush ability, outstanding burst off the edge, and great closing speed. Has rare overall length (very tall with long arms like vines). Will force fumbles. Can jump through the roof (38.5" vertical), disrupts the quarterback’s vision, deflects passes, will play on special teams, and blocks kicks. Very athletic. Shows good spin and swim moves to come free. Played at both left and right defensive end. Bench pressed 225 lbs. 28 times. Has no known character issues, off-field problems, etc. Only started for one year (2008), but had pretty good production when he did start (46 tackles, 17.5 tackles for a loss, 9 sacks, 7 passes deflected, 3 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovered, 1 interception returned for a touchdown in 2008). Doesn’t play with leverage, struggles to get off blocks, and gets washed out in the running game. Doesn’t show the physicality and desire to defend the run. Has a history of injury and durability issues, some of which forced him to miss playing time (hernia, hip, torn muscles). I am guessing the primary reason that Johnson only started for one year was because he was that bad defending the run. Also, I am not sure how much of a factor injury, durability, and stamina (he played on special teams) issues played a role in his playing time or whether he started or not.
Would the Bills’ soft-spoken defensive line coach Bob Sanders be able to get the most out of this immense talent?
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you know that Bob Sanders is soft-spoken?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone is relatively soft-spoken compared to Tim Krumrie and Bill Kollar :-)
"He told me he’s not a yeller or a screamer and that’s going to be new, but not really hard to adjust to," said Schobel. "Tim (Krumrie) and Bill (Kollar) weren’t the quietest people. I’ll know a lot more after a couple of weeks with the guy."
So I don’t really know, I am just inferring :-)
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, yeah, I’m sure he’ll at least sound quiet compared to the crazed lunatics that the players have worked with in the past.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 6, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree that Johnson has the most upside of all the DE’s coming out this year. I would hope the Bills have an opportunity to trade down and pick up an additional No. 3. Take Mack with their new No.1 and then take Johnson No. 2.
by gjv on Apr 6, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...let's give McCargo a few biscuits, put him on the nose, and let's play 3-4 defense!
Marcus Stroud and Kyle Williams can be the defensive ends. Seems like they always play read-and-react, two-gap defense anyway!
That way, all of the rush linebackers in this draft will be perfect fits in our new 3-4 scheme. (Hint: I don’t really believe this.)
LOL! I wish it were that easy.
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by Fort Worth on Apr 6, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we were to go to a 3-4
I think it would be Stroud at the nose,and I think he could be beast, with McCargo(i still have faith) and spencer Johnson at end. And i would love to see this personally. I never understood why we got rid of the 3-4 in the 1st place.
by Baggz on Apr 7, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every day I think that DE is not the right move at 11.
More and more I feel that OLB Matthews is the pick unless we trade Peters or trade down.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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