Bills, DT Stroud agree to re-structured deal
ProFootballTalk.com is reporting that the Buffalo Bills have agreed to a re-worked deal with veteran DT Marcus Stroud. With two years remaining on his original deal, the Bills have added on two more, meaning that Stroud will now collect $28 million ($12 million guaranteed) over the next four years. The 6'6", 310-pound tackle will earn $16 million over the next two seasons.
Stroud, entering his second season with the Bills and his ninth in the NFL, had a solid 2008 season in Buffalo, tallying 61 total tackles and 2.5 sacks. His presence also helped the Bills jump up to No. 14 overall in NFL defensive rankings.
Though he'll turn 31 on June 25 of this year, this is a wise investment for the Bills to make. Stroud proved last year that he has gotten past steroid allegations and microfracture surgery on his ankle, and he is still a dominant defender on occasion. Now he will continue to anchor Buffalo's defense for the next four years.
And, on a side note, these are dollars that will not be going into OT Jason Peters' pocket.
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Excellent!!
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 7, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well deserved. He was a stud last year. This is a step in the right direction… Now OBD take care of Peters and Jackson!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 7, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That is a bit of an overreaction......
I don’t like Peters either, but I don’t think we should put a “hit” out on him :-)
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by Joe P. on Apr 7, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peters
Sing it with me!
Regretfully they tell us,
But firmly they compel us
To say goodby to you.
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, good night,
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight.
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, adieu,
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.
The sun has gone to bed and so must I
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye!
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by BillsNYC on Apr 7, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Auf wiedersehen – is that peace out in german?
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 7, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
essentially.
Until we see each other again…
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always liked the.......
Na Na Na Na…..one better.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 7, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but you have to admit, this one is more creative.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 11.5 sacks, he just may…..he just may….
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by BillsNYC on Apr 7, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of those 11.5 sacks were actually on a very imobile Losman.
I’m positive that if Trent played all year long, that number would have been closer to 6 or 7
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Still more than almost 20 tackles, and only 13 starts!
1. Ryan Clady (Broncos) 0.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
2. Michael Roos (Titans) 1.0 sacks allowed (16 starts) PRO-BOWL
3. Tra Thomas (Eagles) 2.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)
3. Orlando Pace (Rams) 2.0 sacks allowed (14 starts)
5. Jake Long (Dolphins) 2.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
6. Jordan Gross (Panthers) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts) PRO-BOWL
6. Jammal Brown (Saints) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Jared Gaither (Ravens) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Marcus McNeill (Chargers) 3.0 sacks allowed (14 starts)
6. Tony Ugoh (Colts) 3.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
6. Chris Samuels (Redskins) 3.0 sacks allowed (12 starts) PRO-BOWL
6. Todd Weiner (Falcons) 3.0 sacks allowed (11 starts)
13. Walter Jones (Seahawks) 3.5 sacks allowed (12 starts) PRO-BOWL
14. D’Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets) 4.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)
14. Bryant McKinnie (Vikings) 4.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
14. Max Starks (Steelers) 4.0 sacks allowed (11 starts)
17. Joe Thomas (Browns) 4.5 sacks allowed (16 starts) PRO-BOWL
17. Branden Albert (Cheifs) 4.5 sacks allowed (15 starts)
19. Levi Brown (Bengals) 5.5 sacks allowed (11 starts)
20. Mike Gandy (Cardinals) 6.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
21. David Diehl (Giants) 6.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
22. Flozell Adams (Cowboys) 7.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Khalif Barnes (Jags) 7.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Matt Light (Pats) 7.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Chad Clifton (Packers) 7.5 sacks allowed (15 starts)
23. Kwame Harris (Raiders) 7.5 sacks allowed (11 starts)
27. Joe Staley (49ers) 8.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
28. Donald Penn (Bucs) 8.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
29. Jeff Backus (Lions) 9.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
30. John St. Clair (Bears) 9.75 sacks allowed (16 starts)
31. Duane Brown (Texans) 11.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
31. Jason Peters (Bills) 11.5 sacks allowed (13 starts) PRO-BOWL
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by BillsNYC on Apr 7, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not disputing that
But the QB he had to guard had something to do with.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While true, look at who’s #20 on that list above: Mike Gandy. Kurt Warner isn’t the most moblie QB, nor one with the quickest of releases.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 8, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Warner knows how to read defenses so the ball is out quickly...
Plus he was called for holding a bunch of times.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 8, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as QB's under pressure go
Kurt Warner, IMO, is the best in the NFL at knowing when to get rid of the ball in order not to fall to a sack. Not only that, but he plays better under pressure and that when he does all of his big plays. Comparing JP Losman to Kurt Warner does NOT help your point.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 8, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And za winner of zis year’s piss-off-the-fans contest is:
Jason Peters!
Jason Peters?!
…He’s GONE!
by thefourwinds on Apr 7, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My fellow Austrians..err…Buffalo Bills, I shall not be seeing you again perhaps for a very long time. I would like to sing for you now… a love song. I know you share this love. I pray that you will never let it die.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 7, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope we see something like this for Jackson too. Not a restructure, of course, but a new contract.
by BuffaloBrewed on Apr 7, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully not for that much money…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 7, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 year, 10M, 5M garanteed sound good?
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a joke? How does Stroud deserve this much money at this stage in his career? Isn’t this the sort of money you pay for an elite DT? Stroud is good, but he’s far from elite. This deal is baffling…
by spavery on Apr 7, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7 mil a year (avg) for a Stud DT isnt a ton of cash......
Im sure like MOST deals the Bills do it is Heavily front loaded and thus the older he gets the less he gets paid (besides the guaranteed money of course)
Im thrilled with the move.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 7, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus hes not getting Fat Albert cash.......
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 7, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He made 6M last year in salary and bonuses.
Is 7M per really that big of a deal?
He is in the top 10 for DTs. He is getting paid top five money.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you rank him higher than most
Maybe higher than me, but he was solid, and he’s not a fat DT, he’s more solid and athletic, and my thinking and belief is that he might have more longevity than the fat ones.
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Even the fat ones have longevity, at least those that were once Bills….Pat Williams, Sam Adams, Ted Washington….
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by Kurupt on Apr 7, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why did we let those guys leave again?
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Defensive philosophy changes"
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Moronic GM that put the franchise back ten years”
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could say that....
:-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good move by the Bills
Now the FO needs to get off their butts and focus on next years team by getting Peters and Jackson signed to new contracts. Peters should be paid what a two time LT pro bowler is entitled too,and Jackson should have his contract elevated to a top No. 2 RB.
by gjv on Apr 7, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peters should be paid what a two time LT pro bowler is entitled too
Thats what OBD is offering him. Peters wants more, hence the 2-3M difference in contract talks.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Buffalo News reported that weeks ago.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 7, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The News reported that they were 2 to 3 million apart. It did not mention that the Bills offered a contract comporable to a two time pro bowl LT.
by gjv on Apr 7, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, as we know that Peters wants to be the top-paid tackle in the game, it just follows logically that 2-3M separates a solid offer from a ridiculous one, right? I guess it’s a matter of opinion?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 7, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think before we through Peters under a bus we should know the facts. If the Bills are offering him a 55 million with 25 million guaranteed and he wants 3 million, than your absolutely correct. However I did not read that anywhere.
by gjv on Apr 7, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read the Bills were offering him over 8 million a year and they said Long was getting 11.5, and that’s where the 2-3 million figure came from. In reality, its likely 4 million difference as Peters wants more than Long, so $12 million a year.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 7, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you or don’t you think Peters should be paid the same as Long?
by gjv on Apr 7, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone who endlessly debates with you about this doesn’t think Peters should be paid as much as Long.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 7, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t understand why they don’t think Peters should get the same compensation as Long.
by gjv on Apr 7, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 7, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...
Cause the Dolphins are overpaying for long, cause no offencive lineman should eery get 12M per year, cause NO PLAYER should ever get 12M per year unless he’s the difference between winning a championship or not, cause at 11.5 sacks does NOT warrant 12M per year. Do you want me to continue?…
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do.....
not because I disagree with you…..it is just fun to hear :-)
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by Joe P. on Apr 7, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL... ok!
Because comparing him to Jake Long is a mistake because Long will never live up to his 11.5M price tag, cause the Bills will NEVER pay ANY player 12M, cause that 12M per year will bring us close to playing to the cap after you factor in the rookie contracts. cause OBD doesn’t want to play up to the cap, cause paying him 12M per year is jut plain STUPID! There, I’m done… I think.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaaaa.....yeah. That's the stuff!!!!!
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by Joe P. on Apr 7, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think once a QB takes the Bills to a Super Bowl and helps them win, they might pay that guy 12 mil a season.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 8, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cause NO PLAYER should ever get 12M per year unless he’s the difference between winning a championship or not,
That two of my posts up. And that just about the only way I see the Bills paying ANYONE 12M.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 8, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long shouldn’t be making what he’s making, so I don’t feel Peters should be paid like Long. Some team may want to pay him like Long, but I don’t feel the Bills are in a position to do so with their cash to cap policy. Its just too much money to invest in a player who doesn’t touch the ball, gave up 11.5 (or even 7) sacks last year, who hasn’t shown commitment to the Bills, and has been injured the last 2 seasons. We might have to extend Edwards next season, Lynch the year after that as well as Whitner. I’d rather sink money into those 3 guys if they prove to be worth it which would be impossible if you give $12 million to Peters a year.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 7, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you and I think a player should earn doesn't matter
It’s the market that determins the value of a players contracts. You can dig in your feet all you want and rant about how players arn’t worth it and the Bills shouldn’t pay it. But that position will only make the Bills noncompetitive within the NFL. By the way, next to QB, LT’s are the highest paid position on the offense. They generaly make more than RB’s,WR’s and TE’s.
by gjv on Apr 8, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you and I think a player should earn doesn’t matter
That’s true. What the Bills think, however, does. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 8, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, their opinion matters most since they dictate players contracts. I hope the Bills agressively persue players in the market so as to put the best possible team on the field next year. It’s very difficult to find Pro -Bowl LT’s in the world today. Thats why LT’s go so high in the draft today, and why they can command 10 to 12 million dollars in the open market.
by gjv on Apr 8, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it doesn't matter what I think, but you asked what I thought didn't you?
Face it, you can’t sign every player, even the good ones. Its not ranting and raving, the Bills are cash to cap which means they have to make sacrifices. They’ve offered him over $8 million a year which I think is pretty fair, he wants 12 which would prevent the Bills from signing several future players. That’s one hell of a sacrifice for a player who doesn’t show commitment to the team, has been injured the last 2 years, and allowed 11.5 sacks in 13 starts last season.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 8, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, what you or I think is fair doesn’t matter. It’s whats deemed fair compensation on the open market for an LT. Their are only eight +or – pro bowl LT’s in the world. The open market for them is 10 to 12 million per year. The Bills have a choice, pay the going market rate or don’t pay it. By the way, Cash to Cap is their own current player salary policy, it is not a law. They can change Cash to Cap any time their little hearts desire. The main policy you should be concerned about is their committment to putting the best team possible on the field next year. To do that you need good players. Letting a rare pro -bowl LT go because you don’t want to pay the current rate doesn’t bowed well to that committment.
by gjv on Apr 8, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course if you think Peters is not a good LT, 11.5 sacks in 13 games then trade him for what a LT who perfomed that poorly is worth. I would say the Bills should ask for a fifth rounder.
by gjv on Apr 8, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ughh
YES…the market dictates 10-12 million for a top 3 LT….but I don’t think the Bills feel he is worth that based on last year and his commitment issues to the team, neither do I. I am only speaking in regards to the Bills here, they do not feel he will perform as a top 3 tackle for them, and that his heart is not in Buffalo which is why they don’t want to give him that money. He didn’t perform as a top 10 LT last year, even if he did get a pro bowl nod based on name, and his heart wasn’t with the team. They view him as a great tackle that has elite talent but won’t reach it with them. If he would have cut the crap last year, announced he wanted a new contract, and played in his 2007 form I’d say (and the Bills probably as well) he deserves the risk of a $12 million salary. But he didn’t, and he sucked last year and was a distraction for the team. That is NOT a franchise player for Buffalo and Buffalo should not pay him like he is. If Edwards comes in and kicks butt next year, then he deserves franchise money. Same with Lynch, same with Whitner. If the Bills give Peters $12 million they will not be able to sign those 3 guys. If Peters was a stud last year I’d say he outweighs Whitner or Lynch, but he didn’t, so I’d rather spend the money on the guys who want to be here and put the team first. Apparently, that’s how the Bills feel with signings of Evans and Stroud.
Again…why should the Bills pay Peters $12 million when they don’t feel he’s worth it and he’s treated them with no respect?
His TRADE market is dictated not by the Bills, but my the market of teams interested in him. The Bills may feel he won’t be a top 5 LT for them, but the Eagles may feel he will which is why they might be willing to give up a first. As Tim Graham reported, he doesn’t feel Peters is even worth a 2nd rounder, yet it only takes 1 team that thinks he’s elite to make his value a 1st round pick.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 8, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have made at least one valid point. The Bills FO seems to have adopted your position on trash and treasure. They have let 3 starters go and replaced them with three back ups. Now according to you they should let an all pro go to another team. Of course their cash to cap policy will be enhanced. But with that philosophy be prepared to root for an AFC East cellar dwellar for a long time. Maybe we’ll get a trophy for the best cash to cap.
by gjv on Apr 8, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are the three starters? Dockery and who else?
And it’s too early to say that they have replaced anyone with a backup other than Hangartner (and let’s not get into that) until after the draft. Replacing someone with a first or second round pick isn’t necesarrily a bad thing.
They also replaced a backup type player in Josh Reed with a HOFer.
by kaisertown on Apr 8, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya man, and actually agree somewhat, but will give them through the spring to plug some holes via draft/free agency.
I’m not for letting all good players go, as I said if Edwards has a great season next year, the team is going to have to fork out top 5 money for him, same with Whitner.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 8, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s more than one way to build a team. It’s not “gjv’s way or the highway”.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 8, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The issue there is Peters wants best LT money
Bills are offering top 5 LT money, which is no joke money btw. Peters should just take the deal unless he wants out, then he and Parker need to man up and make it clear.
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by WABillsfan on Apr 8, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might be in the Bills interest for them not to do that, then they may get less in a trade if he expresses he wants out.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 8, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another file in the “I didn’t see that coming” folder of the Bills offseason.
by jj24 on Apr 7, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a smart move to do now.
I really like Stroud and think he’s a great player to have on the D Line. Bargain isn’t the right word but it’s smart money, certainly.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 7, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weeeeeiiiirddd timing
Kind of pricey for a guy who I personally don’t think had as large of an impact as we had all hoped. He was good, for sure, but he definitely wasn’t great. I hope I’m not the only one saying this, but Stroud needs to step up some more this season. The run D was still quite bad last year, so we need to be more of a controlling presence on the line. Of course, he needs help, which probably won’t be coming any time soon. At least we’re willing to keep one talent on this roster….
Every day it becomes more obvious the Bills aren’t going to be paying Peters. Here’s another example of that.
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by Kurupt on Apr 7, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much do you think he should get paid for next season?
by gjv on Apr 7, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stroud should get paid more money than Hangartner.
hahahahahaha…
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by Fort Worth on Apr 7, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally some actual BILLS news
Nothing against Rumblings, you guys are providing expert draft coverage,
But all the hypotheticals are starting to get smothering.
I’m just glad something actually pertaining to the team is happening. I think Stroud’s worth the money. It’s certainly not worth going back to the dark ages of Tim Anderson and Justin Bannan.
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Dude…it’s April. Hypotheticals are all we have. Unless we go off topic on any number of topics (Lost, Star Wars, etc.), but I doubt it’d really help the problem, haha
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Apr 7, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Han Shot First
Just needed to be said.
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by Calvert on Apr 7, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone gave me the "Special Edition" Star Ware for my birthday some years ago
I asked for the receipt right then and there so I could take it back and use the money on something else. I will only, and have only, owned the original cut versions of Star Wars, and will not own the Prequels.
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I think they should have included both versions on the re-release. I can’t even recall being able to buy just the original versions on dvd. Though having seen them in the theater, I can manage.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 8, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Episode III was amazing though....
but it should have ended with putting on the Vader mask. His dialouge after that was terrible.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 8, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re talking hypotheticals cause theres NOTHING else to talk about. No one on OBD is saying mum about the Peters situation, there aren’t any FA’s visiting and most of our draft visits are done too. Hypothetical is all we have left!
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But all the hypotheticals are starting to get smothering.
Haha – no lie. We’re right there with you. The draft CANNOT come soon enough.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 7, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it, now pay Jackson and ship Peters to anywhere that will give us a 1st and a 3rd and we are in good shape to have one hell of a draft
by billsnterps on Apr 7, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's an alright deal
Paid a bit more than i would have liked but still a solid investment
and the buffalo bills loose a heartbreaker
by Toronto? on Apr 7, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely a solid investment, and 2 posts above me is exactly what I hope happens. We can grab an OT at 11 and get another playmaker like LB/TE/DE later in the draft. The 3rd could end up being a solid player as well. Peters should realize that if you show respect for the team, and play well, the Bills will pay you.
by billsct11 on Apr 7, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Solid deal, he was already making 7 mil. a year
So not much of a raise, its more like giving him another big bonus really with I bet some really small year to year salaries near the end of his contract when he should be close to retirement.
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by WABillsfan on Apr 8, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure it was $7M total over the next 2 years. I could be wrong
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by Kurupt on Apr 8, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No your right
It’s 7M over the next 2 years, not 7M next year.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 8, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After thinking about it a little more....
…what does this say to Peters??
Remember, after the Bills traded for Stroud they reconfigured his contract so he would get more guaranteed money (I think). Now a year later, after a good but hardly great season, they give him a brand new deal with a lot of guaranteed money.
Peters, despite a subpar year, was still very good last year. He made his second Pro Bowl, whether he earned it or not will always be debatable, and is vastly underpaid for his role and talent.
So, Stroud gets a new deal after a decent year, and just one year in Buffalo? I think that’s basically the team telling Peters to shove it. It’s probably not related, but you have to believe that the timing of this and with Peters’ current situation, that it’s a giant slap in the face for him. I think this is yet another nail in the coffin, and it makes me believe more and more every day that the relationship has soured, and may be irreparable.
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
by Kurupt on Apr 8, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And you guys said the Bills didn't do things out of spite :-)
If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables, what is baby oil made from?
by Joe P. on Apr 8, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again, Stroud showed up and didn’t screw the team. That’s actually a good message to be sending.
by WhyBillsWhy on Apr 8, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
11.5 sacks
I did not realize that Peters had that many sacks last year. Let’s face it, Stroud has a reputation as one of the better defensive tackles in the game, shows up for camp on time, and deserves a raise.
Peters has always been overrated and their are much better tackles in the league than him.
by BuffaloWhiner on Apr 8, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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