Bills sign G/C Seth McKinney
The Buffalo News is reporting that the Buffalo Bills have agreed to terms with free agent guard/center Seth McKinney. The deal is believed to be for one year.
McKinney, soon to be 30 years old, is a seven-year pro that spent 2008 with the Cleveland Browns as the team's top reserve on the interior offensive line. With starting experience at both guard and center, McKinney brings starting experience to the Bills' interior line depth - a spot sorely lacking after the February release of Derrick Dockery. McKinney has started 45 games in his career.
A native of Buffalo, Texas (there's another Buffalo?), McKinney has spent time with the Browns and Dolphins, who drafted him in 2002. He becomes the latest in a pool of players in contention to start at left guard - a group that includes tackles-by-trade Kirk Chambers and Demetrius Bell.
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Solid move. He’ll make a great backup. The more bodies we have for the line the better.
by Dreaded on Apr 9, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Whittle's replacement. Whoopee!
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by BillsNYC on Apr 9, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s better than Jason Whittle. And younger.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Butler at Left Guard?
I just read the Buffalo News article and said they were switching Butler to LG. Is that the first time that’s been announced? I don’t remember reading that before.
Is Butler suitable for LG in the NFL?
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by BillsNYC on Apr 9, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It actually didn’t say anything about a switch. I think Gaughan just mixed up right and left, but I suppose it’s possible that they made the move.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sent Gaughan an email to see if it was a typo.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 9, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wrote back and said he made a mistake, he meant RG. Also mentioned it in his chat.
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by BillsNYC on Apr 10, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s what I figured.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 10, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
I thought the Bills would move him to LG once Dock was cut to pair him with Peters. I apparently was only half right.
by Ron From NM on Apr 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Butler suitable for LG in the NFL?
LG and RG are pretty similiar. There aren’t any schematic differences when facing 3-4 opponents. The big difference from a scheme perspective is that LGs are typically lined up against smaller, quicker under tackles while the nose tackle lines up between the center and RG when the opponent runs a 4-3 defense.
Ron could probably tell you better, but I think Butler will be an immediate upgrade as a pass blocker and should allow fewer sacks (maybe a lot fewer) than Dockery did. Whether Butler is better suited or able to handle his run blocking duties against quicker DTs than Dockery was is up in the air. To give a shorter answer, yes Butler is a solid fit at LG if the Bills do move him there.
by kaisertown on Apr 10, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would he be better used at LG or RG?
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by BillsNYC on Apr 11, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the quality of offensive linemen Russ Brandon is building the 2009 team with
I worried he might have Marshawn thinking about sitting in more cars.
by gjv on Apr 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t make a ton of sense to get onto your soapbox over a backup, gjv.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I so desperatly want the Bills to bring in linemen that raise the bar to make the team.
by gjv on Apr 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any free agent lineman left that would do that for you?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Apr 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simmons?
Well…he might….
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by BillsNYC on Apr 9, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simmons is the deffinition of washed up. If theres anyon e left to take a chance on it would be LeCharles Bentley, nut that would be a pretty big chance.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Simmons achilles has probably ended his career as a decent starter. I would still take him befpre Bentley though. I doubt his knee would even allow him to play a full season ever again.
by kaisertown on Apr 9, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a feeling,
but I think they’re probably looking at the draft for that.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 10, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that even mean?
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McKinney was signed for depth purposes. The Bills aren’t trying to “build” anything with this signing. It gives them additional options during the draft, so I’m not sure how this could possibly be a bad move by Buffalo.
by kaisertown on Apr 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I think this is an excellent signing. I envision him serving the same role here as a backup guard and center. If we don’t draft a guard he will certainly be in the competition with Chambers and Bell at OG but I can’t see that happening.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHA
A native of Buffalo, Texas (there’s another Buffalo?),
I laughed…. poz posted on the fanshot that he is a native Buffalonian. That’s too funny.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 9, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoops...
sorry Poz…. wrong guy. It was defensewins…
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 9, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, credit where it's due
I hope I at least get points for trying to keep it light around here.
by Defensewinsgames on Apr 9, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THE TIMe is now
HEY= I take any guy thats ready to go to war with the bills, if they want to winn this is the time and place, lets do this
by abayarde on Apr 9, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Winn Baby Winn!
Dude, seriously, your rapidly becomeing one of my favorite posters here.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid signing, and a good depth player
I doubt he’ll be starting and I still want the Bills to draft a interior lineman in the draft, but I see this as a good signing. I think that he might be able to do for our interior lineman what Chambers does for our tackles. I like it.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its a good move to bolster depth
He has some starting experience, and can fill in, this allows us to see if Chambers could become a starter at G while allowing us to move in any direction later in the draft for depth
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by WABillsfan on Apr 10, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I said in the now defunct Fanshot on the subject, this is a good depth move that gives us more options on draft day. We have a solid interior line backup now, one that can play Center. Therefore, it’s possible we don’t draft a Center, and may not even draft a Guard. I still hope we draft a starting Guard, but this reduces the need for a depth pick later in the draft.
Plus, we have more experience available now, which will help if we do indeed draft a new starting Guard, and potentially a new LT….
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by Kurupt on Apr 9, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well put Kurupt. Right now it is all about building the depth on the line. Hell, anything is better than what we had last year in DUKE PRESTON. This kind of signing allows us to be versatile in the draft.
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by Hambone on Apr 9, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are right in that this signing is signaling the Bills are not likely to draft a Guard/Center (at least not in the first day). From the bigger needs the team is facing right now I think it is a good move, and it shows the Bills have a distinctive draft plan forming up. However, if you look back at the whole situation of why the Bills had this hole to fill in the first place, does it not make you rethink whether cutting Dockery was a right move? The team is faced with the cap hit anyhow. Seriously, how much actual savings is there by cutting Dock and signing McKinney (this is assuming they can both play at the same level).
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by moncheri on Apr 10, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that is as likely as you apparently.
I still think they will look at drafting a starter in the second round. I think this takes away a day two pick on the O Line interior, though. It also makes it a little easier for me to take a straight guard prospect like Robinson or Urbik or whatever his name is from Wisconsin instead of a C/G prospect like Unger.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The BIlls saved multiple millions of dollars in salary....
the salary cap was only about 500k less than actually paying him but the actual money is still there. PLus he was not worth the money and due a huge bonus.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a BUffalo, Montana too
And probably many others.
BUT, this at least tells me we are getting better backups, and i would definitely like to see at least one interior lineman rookie, if not two. Bills are probably trying to cover all bases when it comes to draft opportunities, so that the need to draft players specifically for depth isn’t there. OBD most likely wants to draft starters…(duh)
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by killascript on Apr 9, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think that they are going to draft either Mack, Unger, Robinson or Urbik, which would be great.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 9, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a Buffalo in Iowa, Missourri, Oklahoma and Wyoming too (that I know of).
Buffalo, Texas looks pretty sweet though:
They call themselves "the crossroads of Texas because they are right where the throughway that connects Dallas and Houston and the throughway that goes from Austin to Little Rock cross each other.
Buffalo, TX is a small city of 1,800 – 1,900 residents.
The only problem is that the city is just 110 miles south of Dallas and they actually officially changed their name to “Blue Star, TX” for a couple of weeks when Dallas played us in the Super Bowl and they even changed their name to “Green Star, TX” when the Sabres played the Stars in the Stanley Cup finals. I’m actually starting to wish we didn’t sign him! (half joking, half serious)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_Texas
Wiki also tells us that Slayer bassist, Tom Araya lives in “Stupid Star, TX”
by kaisertown on Apr 9, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically proficient, yes. Good – marginally, but definitely subjective. I loathe them for what they used in one album’s artwork: photos of Cobain, post death.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 10, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they had a few good songs… I’ve always been a bigger Maiden and Preist fan anyways.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 11, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You no they don't call them "Thruways" anywhere outside of Buffalo
Ive heard that quite often, and while I could be wrong, it is something I should have mentioned in that post a while back for things to tell T.O. about Buffalo
Did you guys read on the SI article about TO showing up to workouts that they made the sign on the “Thruway” say ‘Welcome t.o. Buffalo’…pretty sweet
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by killascript on Apr 9, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most states don't pay tolls on their highways either
I wonder if TO will demand reimbursement for the tolls…
by Ron From NM on Apr 9, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean for the t.o.lls, right?
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by Kurupt on Apr 9, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there really is no end to the t.o. related fun
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing is
The 90 is a state highway that has very good rest stops in terms of size and accessibility, and a lot of crap on there. They cut the gases prices very minimally, but it is something. And the toll is not that much. They probably do alot of good. But I know, talk about being nickel and dimed on top of all the other NY State bullcrap
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by killascript on Apr 10, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
killascript, you are rad
How you knew there is a Buffalo, Montana, I can’t guess. I don’t think there’s a bar in Buffalo, Montana, oddly enough. A saloon is the only landmark in 99.9% of MT’s rural towns. Now I’m getting all homesick.
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by the Uncommon Denominator on Apr 10, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the 'rad'
tis much worthless knowledge between my mildly pointy ears
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by killascript on Apr 11, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the signing. In fact, I highly approve of it. I’d love to hear what he has left in the tank.
How come this dude wasn’t listed on ESPN’s Scouts Inc page, in the FA tracker? I want my money back from them; from now on, all of my cash goes to this site…
by krytime on Apr 9, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don't get the o-line this year
why bring in t.o. and then dismantle the o-line?
by tiimbitz4786 on Apr 10, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dismantle how?
We let our subpar centers go…. that was a great move.
We cut an underperforming Dockery who was about to get a big cash bonus.
That’s really it so far not counting Jason Peters hold out.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disillusionment
going into next season it looks like we will have no Lynch, no Peters, no LG, no pass rush, no TE, no strongside LB, we will be using starters to return kicks and punts. We have signed some good backups but just two starters, unless we have a stella draft we are looking at another year of mediocrity.
Please tell me i am totally wrong!!!!
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by gregeng on Apr 10, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll get back to you after the draft.. cause right now it doesn’t look too promissing.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 10, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have signed some good backups but just two starters
How many teams have signed more than two starters?
by kaisertown on Apr 10, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many teams have lost three starters, have as many needs as the bill and reside in as strong a division as the AFC East?
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by gregeng on Apr 10, 2009 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there are holes, but it’s also not time to freak out yet. That’s April 26.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 10, 2009 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many teams have lost three starters
Who are the three starters that Buffalo has lost? Dockery is obvious, but I have no clue who the other two “starters” are. if center is one of them than that’s a joke. I would put center in the category of positions that have been considerably upgraded. So, in my opinion, Buffalo has made two big upgrades and has only seen one position end up worse than when they started.
by kaisertown on Apr 10, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are the three starters that Buffalo has lost?
Dockery, Jabri Greer started last season as a starter and will be a starter at New Orleans and the third is Crowell who would have been a starter if he were not put on IR. He will also start in Tampa. i had not even thought about either Fowler or Preston, they are adequate back ups at best.
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by gregeng on Apr 10, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Greer even count when you’ve got Leodis McKelvin to plug in?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 10, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem i have with McKelvin as a starting CB is that he is too good.
OBD are trying to trade Parrish and with Lynch suspended at the start of the year Jackson is going to be returning fewer kicks so Leodis will be returning more so will not be able to play so many snap on defense.
If we draft someone who can return kicks and punts then we have only really lost two starters, and as Crowell did not play for us last year maybe we cannot count him either.
But Preston did start for us, and if Parrish is traded him is our starting kick/punt returner so it can be argued that we have still potentially lost three starters.
or we can argree that i was stretching things a bit!!!
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by gregeng on Apr 10, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGee did both for years and did fine....
I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as you are making it out to be.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think your concerns are valid, don’t get me wrong. But there’s still time to figure all this out.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 10, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No It doesn’t count. Leodis will do everything that Greer did and more….plus signing florence (imo, a solid sign) i think we will be alright.
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by Stabby Mcshank on Apr 10, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly thik that Florence makes our CB corps stronger than if it was Greer there. Sure Greer may have started a few games, but wen put as a nickle back, he has look weak at times. With the MacBros as starters, Florence can excel at the position he is best at: Nickle Back (not to be confused with the god awful band). We have an EXTREMELY solid CB corps.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 11, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I can see where the 3 starters is coming from. But considering that Crowell didn’t play a snap last year, I have a really hard time counting him. It isn’t like some key cog of Buffalo’s team just up and vanished. And like Brian said, if Buffalo is replacing Greer with last year’s 11th overall pick, can’t we say that Buffalo had the foresight to fill that hole last year?
by kaisertown on Apr 10, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dockery, Jabri Greer started last season as a starter and will be a starter at New Orleans and the third is Crowell who would have been a starter if he were not put on IR.
Crowell was on IR all year long, to me thats not starting for a team. as for Greer, I think that he would have been moved to nickel back if him, McGee and McKelvin would have ever been healthy at the ame time at the end of the year.
So we lost one starter, one guy that started part of the season and a guy that didn’t play at all during the season. Thats a weak argument on the starters thee my friend.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 11, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 10, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colorado has a Buffalo, too. I live in McLeansville, NC. It’s just outside of Greensboro. The creek that runs through my backyard, yeah, it’s called Buffalo Creek.
by jj24 on Apr 10, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have any insight on this guy?
I’ve read the comments – is he just a backup or starting potential as the Bills see it?
Upgrade over Preston/Whittle? Better than Dock?
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by J2 on Apr 10, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At best he is a capable starter (not likely)
where I see him he is the top reserve behind the new OG, Butler, and Hangartner.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a nutshell, he’s our new and improved Jason Whittle – younger, better, just as versatile. Depth signing.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 10, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Brown's take
By Chris Brown – Posted April 9th, 2009
I think it’s safe to consider Seth McKinney another piece of interior offensive line puzzle.
He could emerge as a starter at left guard or he could be a backup at left guard and center. At worst he’s a depth player, and being able to play more than one position is likely what attracted the Bills to the seven-year vet in the first place.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 10, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another freaking mediocre player signing that is glorified by the fan base who has seemingly forgotten what real talent looks like. after 9 years of misery, i suppose they’ve forgotten what a real steak dinner tastes like as well…
by jzoom45 on Apr 10, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glorified by the fan base?
People are allowed to think that a player is a good backup while still realizing that they are just a backup. Why can’t Bills fans be happy that our non-existent interior OL depth was addressed? Why can’t we be happy to see OBD give themselves more options in the middle and late rounds of the draft?
Sure people seem happy about the move, but let’s not turn that into fans being excited about the player. What is the nicest thing that anybody wrote in this thread about McKinney?
by kaisertown on Apr 10, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you were serious about a championship, then you’d be criticizing the move. you’d be arguing for a top caliber starter than can dominate the interior, instead of complimenting an unknown. we don’t need no name back ups. we need big name starters so that we can make our current no name starters, back ups.
by jzoom45 on Apr 10, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to hear your plan for who you would sign and how you would pay for him
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by Joe P. on Apr 10, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you were serious about a championship, then you’d be criticizing the move
Why would I criticize a move that makes Buffalo a better team even if it’s only ever so slightly better? If you can come up with any kind of reasoning for how Buffalo is a worse team now or has hurt their ability to build this team into a championship calibur team because of this signing, then I would LOVE to hear it.
we don’t need no name back ups
No, but we do need backups. Buffalo didn’t have a backup center under contract and now they do. Why would anyone be critical of that? This move gives Buffalo more flexibility in the draft and makes it much easier to pick the best player available while still filling out the roster. Why are you critical of that?
we need big name starters
And how does signing a journeyman type cheap vet limit Buffalo’s ability to do that in any way? You make it seem like Buffalo had a choice between a superstar and McKinney and picked McKinney.
by kaisertown on Apr 11, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, and where was this "Superstar" in the FA pool
Kaiser is right on, there WAS no one else to even look at for a backup position as a C right now, none nada zero zip zilch, unless you consider Melvin Fowler to be that person, and if you do jzoom, god help you and go get a checkup by a psychiatrist, you got something wrong up there then.
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by WABillsfan on Apr 11, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you please discuss what you would do? You love to criticize without offering any substance.
I sure with those top caliber starters were available for the veteran minimum right now
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by Kurupt on Apr 11, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm and where is this person in the current FA pool?
Duh, there ISN’T one, this year the pool was full at best backups, fringe starters, and solid but not spectacular players for the Oline. Who would you have signed?
Who outside of Brown, (who wanted silly Snyder amounts of money and NO team was willing to give it to him other than the Rams) would you have signed??? IN the case of Brown there were about 10 teams who needed C upgrades and hmmmm, NONE but one were willing to even come close to that deal, and he was trying to get out from that for anything close to it, and couldn’t find a taker.
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by WABillsfan on Apr 11, 2009 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man if your going to criticize the signing of a backup by saying that we should be signing a top flight starter instead, then at least name the available top flight starter… oh wait… THERE ISN’T ANY AVAILABLE! I agree we need better players, but getting better players also includes getting better backups, and guess what? McKinney is a better BACKUP.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 11, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you were serious about a championship, then you’d be criticizing the move.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, PET PEEVE
PLEASE don’t tell people that they’re not serious with their fanhood because they disagree with you. UGH.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 11, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Good Lord. So “solid backup” is now “glorified by the fan base”?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 10, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and who is deleting my posts (such as the roscoe parrish one) and why? if we are not at liberty to express our opinions, adamantly, whether or not you agree with them then maybe you should set up your own private blog where you won’t be so quick to delete posts simply because you dislike them or because you’re PMSing over spilled coffee. seriously, let the people speak, and, vehemently if they so desire, about their team and its acquisitions.
by jzoom45 on Apr 10, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, you’re assuming he deleted it. Over the course of the last couple of months several items had vanished including moderators own comments, fanposts, and fanshots. By taking a quick look at your user history I see that nobody has deleted a fanshot of yours, only comments that were inappropriate. You can be vehement. Nobody has a problem with that. But you can also make a solid, passionate argument without swearing or being rude to people. We don’t delete posts we disagree with. We delete posts that are offensive or use offensive language.
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