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Bills' Schonert has more talent to work with in '09


Schonert will have better weapons in Year 2 (photo source)

We discussed just yesterday the importance of quality quarterback play to winning in the NFL, and more importantly, how Buffalo Bills starter Trent Edwards can become that type of player. Outside of that most critical of factors, however, Buffalo had three other major issues to address offensively - the offensive line, the skill positions, and the play-calling. (So, yeah... that basically covers the entire offense.)

The line has been re-shuffled (for better or worse), and the talent and depth at running back, receiver and tight end has - on paper - improved significantly as well. If the changes in those areas help Edwards become more productive, that's obviously beneficial to the team. But you can't field a high-level offense without every puzzle piece; the jury remains out on both Edwards and offensive coordinator Turk Schonert until further notice.

Speaking of Schonert, KC Joyner has a cool little article up today that I'd like to dissect as an afternoon topic of discussion.

Schonert the Disseminator
First thing's first - I'd like to make a motion right at the top to officially refer to Schonert as "The Disseminator" from this point forward.

The crux of Joyner's article on Schonert this morning dealt with his preference for spreading the ball around in the passing game, particularly in reference to where Schonert chose to line up some of his players. In his effort to utilize as many functional parts as possible in the passing game, Schonert lined Lee Evans up in the slot with solid success. He also put TE Robert Royal - whose Bills career is over - in the same position, much to the chagrin of Bills nation.

The one glaring exception to this philosophy was when the Bills threw passes to tight end Robert Royal when he was lined up as a wideout. Buffalo was for 7 for 15 for 108 yards on those aerials, but one of those receptions was a 19-yard gain against a very soft prevent defense. Take that pass out and Royal’s flex YPA was a meager 6.4 yards, but his performance was actually a lot worse than the YPA shows. Three of the throws to Royal were picked off, and two others were nearly intercepted. If that weren’t enough, Royal also dropped two of the throws and the 19-yard gain mentioned previously ended with a lost fumble.

This has always been my biggest problem with Schonert. It's not the predictability of his play-calling, or even the specific plays called - he flashed signs of being more than competent in stringing together hot stretches for his offense last year (though those were few and far between). My issue with Schonert was that he was trying to run his offense, rather than running an offense that his players could execute.

The good news - or perhaps the bad news - is that names like Terrell Owens, Shawn Nelson and even Dominic Rhodes have added depth and (proven, in the case of Owens) raw ability to a talent pool that needed it. Schonert shouldn't have been diving into the deep end of that talent pool last year, but there's a chance that the pool is loaded enough for Schonert to safely swim at either end in 2009. Still, as Joyner cautions, the Bills still don't have a "do-everything" cast of players, which could be Schonert's ultimate downfall:

The key for Schonert’s future success as an offensive coordinator will be if he can discern which of his troops can and cannot do this and adjusts his approach according to their talent and limitations.

The important tendency to note is that even if Schonert doesn't change one bit from last season, the offense should improve simply because there is more for he and Edwards to work with (provided, of course, that the offensive line isn't leaky enough to drain the talent pool of its value). There is reason for optimism. But don't fall into the trap of believing that signing Terrell Owens immediately opens up an anemic offense. One player, even if that player is as dynamic as T.O., does not instantly make a bad offense great - as I'm sure I don't have to tell any of you.  Nor does adding solid depth at other positions. There are a lot of dynamics at play here, and Schonert's growth is one of the biggest keys to the offense taking the steps forward that the team desperately needs.

Let's just hope that Turk realizes that he's got some adapting to do himself - and let's also hope that the reports of the team utilizing a no-huddle offense next season are an early indication of Schonert being open to new wrinkles. We can harp about the young O-Line, the green quarterback and the enviable skill depth all we want, but Schonert is the fourth piece of the puzzle - and he's got a lot to prove as well.

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provided, of course, that the offensive line isn’t leaky enough to drain the talent pool of its value

Ooooh! Nice play on words!

Turk and Trent. Trent and Turk. Whatever order you put them in, they will be directly linked to our offensive success. Each needs each other to be better this year.

Hopefully, with more talent this year, we won’t have to do things like line a Robert Royal up at TE. We’ve got enough WR depth and receiving ability at TE (Fine and Nelson) to avoid trying square pegs in round holes. I like how Turk’s O revolved around spreading the ball to different receivers last year, and that becomes even more critical this year. With TO needing the ball, and the other talent surrounding him, we have to get these guys involved early and often. That means not only taking more chances with Evans and TO deep, but also sustaining drives and getting the ball to guys in areas to succeed.

I want to see more play action and more roll outs. We have the RB talent and an OL that looks like it’ll be stronger run blocking, so the play action passing game should present itself this year. We just need Turk to be more willing to take advantage of these opportunities. I really like play action roll outs too. From the handful of times we did it last year, I seem to recall Trent having some decent success there. This would be another way to mask Walker’s deficiencies at LT.

I totally agree with you that Schonert tried too hard to fit the players into his offense instead of tailoring his offense to the players. Back to the square peg, round hole idea, Schonert never really seemed to play to the strengths of our players (Evans deep, Lynch/Jackson on screens, Hardy on jump balls, Trent on roll outs, etc), and that was infuriating to put it mildly. There’s too much talent at the skill positions this season to not make changes geared towards playing to the strengths of these players. If Schonert is too stubborn or egotistical again, I doubt we’ll have a whole lot of success with his schemes/playcalling.

Is KC Joyner a closet Bills fan or something? Many of his ESPN chats centered around the Bills last year, as I recall.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 12, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Is KC Joyner a closet Bills fan or something?” Interesting question K, considering the title of his book: “Blindsided: Why the Left Tackle is Overrated and Other Contrarian Football Thoughts”.

I guess Buffalo is now a test case on whether or not the left tackle is indeed overrated.

by Zumone on May 12, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cards did a nice job of proving him right last year as well.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 12, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bottom line

is Schonert has to do what every coach in the NFL needs to do and every coach in general….do not just run “your system” run the system that best fits your personnel. This isn’t 9th grade football, this is the NFL, and from the personnel director, to the director of college scouting, all the way down to the last assistant coach, the philosophy of how to build a football team should be a universal theme throughout the organization. character, work ethic, bla bla….what it comes down to now is putting round pieces in round holes and not trying to put a square peg in a round hole (ie. lining Royal up as a WR). The predictability of Schonert is embarrassing, the ineptitude on red zone consistency was futile, and the inability to get Lee Evans involved early and often was terrible.

Schonert IMO, is the weakest link on this team. I come just short of despising him. I think if we win this year it will be IN SPITE of Turk Schonert, and not because of him. The offensive line was atrocious and Trent Edwards was anemic for the mid-later part of 2008.

All that said that was 1 year. There were some bad eggs (Peters) some just bad players (Dockery, Royal) and a terribly inconsistent leader (Edwards). Schonert needs to do a better job of getting this offense to perform consistently. And as a former QB, a prodigy of Steve Wyche, and a lifetime coach or player at QB, Schonert’s 2009 season begins and ends with how Trent Edwards progresses.

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by MARVelous on May 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what it comes down to now is putting round pieces in round holes

Uh…that’s what she said?

If the glove don’t fit, it couldn’t be Whit...

by thatguy34 on May 12, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Wyche

Is he related to Sam Wyche (LOL)

by Byrdeputt on May 13, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is KC Joyner a closet Bills fan or something

I was wondering the same thing. Is the dude from WNY?

by krytime on May 13, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, talking strategy!

Is it me or were the 90’s Bills good because they threw against Run looks and ran against Nickel/Dime Defenses?

IMHO this years Bills now have the Receivers to hurt a team putting 8 in the box to stop the run by going over the top to Evans or hitting the quick slant to TO.

Likewise, by spreading the field using 4 receivers and a single RB formation, there should be gaps to run through in the Oline. Or run screens and delays against the big pass rushes we will face.

I would be happy if we became predictable for one thing – our unpredictability in play calling certain downs and distances!

by freddyjj on May 12, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Robert Royal

Really was an enigma wasn’t he? He showed just enough flash that he’d get the ball thrown to him, but then turned it over 75% of the time. Has there ever been anyone with a worse turnover % in the TE/WR group? Between fumbles and bad routes that led to interceptions just WOW he’s in a class by himself. Good riddance.

by syrbillsfan on May 12, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Literally, every time he touched the ball, no matter where I was, who I was with, I would say "He is going to either drop it, miss it, or fumble it, he will NOT catch it"

And almost 90% of the time I was right, my wife nearly pissed herself from laughing once after one of my anti-royal rants when he fumbled the ball, again, in a game.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on May 13, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Graham called Joyner "skeptical"

K.C. Joyner does make some interesting points about Schonert’s offense but I would hardly call it “skeptical”. If anything, he praises the results the Bills got when getting the ball to Lee Evans and the RB’s. The ONLY criticism he includes seems to be leveled more at Robert Royal than at Schonert or anyone else. I, like most Bills fans, was a little surprised but not upset when Royal was released in the offseason. After watching Royal underwhelm for several seasons it was clear that the team needed to go in another direction at TE and the front office recognized this and made the right move. When Royal was signed his supposed strength was as an in-line blocker. He was average at best in his blocking role and an extreme liability in the passing game.

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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on May 12, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just please don’t be so predictable this year. That’s all I ask, Turk.

Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on May 12, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While I agree – I also don’t.

I love it when football teams line up and imposes their will on another team. Like short yardage situations – you know we’re running A or B gap – come stop this b***.

Thats how we’d know how our team is doing – if the other team knows whats coming and they can’t stop it. But definately cannot do that all of the time.

Silence is golden but duck tape is silver

by J2 on May 12, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.......100%

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on May 12, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree 100% as well. The important key to that statement is having the team mentality and the offensive line ability to line up and just bust someone in the mouth. Clearly our soft, below average offensive line did not have that capability last year, so most of the time I found myself pleading with the TV to not let the Bills run the ball up the middle on any short yardage situation.

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by thatguy34 on May 12, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point definitely taken- I do love when a team can impose its will in spite of the opposing team knowing what it will do. I’m saying, in this case, we aren’t imposing our will and need to be able to have some question as to what we’re running. It’s hard to run people over when they know you’re going to run the ball and put 8-9 guys in the box. I’m just asking them to at least keep a team honest before the snap.

Penn Staters belong at Penn State. The problem with a lot of kids is they just don’t know they are Penn Staters yet. -jesse. @ BSD

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on May 12, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love it when football teams line up and imposes their will on another team

I think that’s what they were planning last year. We had one of the biggest OLines in football last year, and I can’t tell you how many times we ran it up the gut and failed.

Getting Lynch the ball on the outside should be a priority. He is a beast who can break tackles, but we can’t expect him to break through all 8 guys that often. Not if we want to keep him healthy a couple of years from now. Most DB’s are a bad matchup for Lynch when he’s outside the pocket and we should leverage that strength when we aren’t hooking up T.O on his slant routes and Lee Evans with the deep ball. Having a receiving threat like Nelson helps everyone. The Bills could be a dangerous team this year in the no huddle. Maybe with the youth at the guard position, they can be a bit more creative.

Schmucks don't make it to the Pro Bowl... except Jason Peters!

by Run Thurmal Run! on May 12, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predictability

I think this year falls solely on the development of Schonert. Trent was inconsistent last year, but it is the job of the coordinator to find ways to play to your team and especially to your QB’s strengths and weaknesses. Trent is the prototypical pocket passer, yet Schonert blatently told everyone on TV, in the stand, and on the opposing sideline whether the team was going to run or pass, and that killed Trent because he is not mobile enough to make things happen when a play breaks down. I think that whoever the offensive quality control guy was should be fired because he should have picked up on the tendencies of Schonert and let him know about it much sooner.

Basically I think this season comes down to this. If Schonert is more consistent in mixing up formations, play action, deep and short throw, then that aids Trent tremendously and the team succeeds. If he cannot stop with the predictability on 75% of the snaps, well then this team will lose 75% of its games and we will be looking at a new coach by next year.

by ballinbills1315 on May 12, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

think that whoever the offensive quality control guy

The one – the only – AVP – or Alex Van Pelt (unless that changed).

Plus – I did see improvement from a play call stand point over the course of the last few games of the season. In hindsight – I think the line actually hindered some play calling because they couldn’t run it up the gut

Silence is golden but duck tape is silver

by J2 on May 13, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AVP was promotoed to the QB Coach last year.

The Offensive Quality Control Coach is Nathaniel Hackett.

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by MattRichWarren on May 13, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Thing That Bothered Me Most ...

about Schonert last year is that when Edwards struggled, I felt it was defensive coordinators catching up to him. I felt our offensive coordinator let him down. When teams stopped blitzing and dropped into coverages, BOTH QB and OC were lost. I hope they study the hell out of that and are better prepared this year. I think Trent will do that. I’m excited that the two of them have a foundation that they can build on. Of course, so do the def coordinators. If Turk can’t stay ahead of them, then this will be his last year.

by MrFurious1 on May 12, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, as Joyner cautions, the Bills still don’t have a “do-everything” cast of players, which could be Schonert’s ultimate downfall:

Schonert’s downfall won’t be because he lacks a cast of ‘do-everything’ players. If he fails (thus dooming Jauron in the process) it will likely have more to do with his blasé attitude towards taking advantage of every scoring opportunity.

by Ron From NM on May 12, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When did Schonert not take advantage of every scoring opportunity? He wasn’t on the field for the Preston incident.

by syrbillsfan on May 12, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must have missed the horrendous interview he gave at the Combine. He flat out stated that it wasn’t important to score at the end of a half because the offense would be getting the ball back in the second half.

by Ron From NM on May 12, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he really said that then he should be canned immidietly. You score every chance you get in this league. Or to quote Herm Edwards “You play to win the game!”

by CanadianBillsFan on May 12, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The link to the interview is below.

by Ron From NM on May 12, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can the man.

by thefourwinds on May 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Turk's defense...

I think that was a part of his answer on the time out issue. I think he meant it’s okay if you have to burn a couple of timeouts in the first half, that it’s okay if you run the two minute drill at the end of the half without a timeout, and not score as a result, that it wasn’t the end of the world.

Trust me, I’m not Turk’s biggest fan, but there was a lot of truth in what he said in that interview. Buffalo is a VERY young team. And there are a lot of things that we might not realize at the time that can explain why a decision was made. An mild injury that doesn’t prevent a player from returning to the game can force a play call choice. Or maybe it’s the reason for burning a timeout because the play came in late.

Having said that, they are professionals. And they are paid to adapt to those situations. And that’s a reasonable explanation to our frustrations last year. A new OC with a young team. But that’s over now. So I hope this year is different with T.O and the no huddle.

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by Run Thurmal Run! on May 12, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian - Im down for refering to Schnoert as...

The Big Diss……..

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on May 12, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Schonert Combine Interview

For anyone who missed it, Schonert gave a disasterous interview at the Combine. Hmmm….that doesn’t work right. Here’s the link to cut and paste if it doesn’t show up as something you can click on: http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/videos/turk-schonert-interview/4af26d88-c896-48af-9a5e-80030978183c

For the part about time management go to 13:12 in the video. He trots out excuses about all of the wasted time outs and how he can’t keep track of who is on the field. He calls first half timeouts overrated (twice) and then says “if you don’t score at the end of the first half, you don’t score.”

It’s easily the worst interview I’ve ever seen from any coach outside of Detroit.

by Ron From NM on May 12, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really, really dislike that guy

What an ego!

He’s basically trying to justify why the offense blew time outs, was out of sync and disorganized for many parts of the season. Hey, coach, here’s a clue! You are supposed to be the one that keeps these guys in check and gets the personnel in and out and plays called smoothly!

I had forgotten how much I despise this guy until watching that again. Ugh….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 12, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh I

have a strong distaste for this guy….i hate his attitude and bravado that he exudes….I really dislike him and feel like he lacks the ability to communicate without degrading or talking down to his players….i really think Jauron’s loyalty to this guy is going to be the straw that break’s the camel’s back and puts DJ and all his staff on the unemployment block…..this offense has talent…everyone in the league admits that….I just want to do not believe in this guy one iota….in fact I think every thing he does is almost garbage….so yeah…call it pessimism….i just call it an extension of the crap we saw with Fairchild

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by MARVelous on May 12, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap is right, Marv

“The Disseminator” ……maybe. I think The Diarrheanator" would be more accurate. And if the Bills offense becomes explosive in any way, it would most likely become “The Explosive Diarrheanator”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ch3RHk7jGE&NR=1

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by Joe P. on May 12, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All this points a huge finger back at Jauron. Why else does he keep hiring disasters at OC unless the man himself has no clue?

by thefourwinds on May 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just call it an extension of the crap we saw with Fairchild

If he screws up royally this season, I’m calling him Turd Schonert. I don’t care how immature it is.

It's just a game.

by jj24 on May 13, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um I must of heard a different interview than you guys.......

Because frankly other than him saying timeouts are overrated (which his reasoning behind it isnt that flawed in my opinion) I thought it was a pretty straight forward to the point interview…..

Obviously you fellas have some sort of hatred towards the man……he’s still learning how to be an OC too. So sure he’s gonna make some mistakes.

I didnt catch the EGO that you all did. I think he gave a solid interview…….he’s not blowing smoke up anyones arse here.

Sounds like to me he gave the “it was what it was” and we’re gonna do our best to fix it this offseason.

The senseless bashing of this particular coach is kinda odd for me………

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on May 12, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking for myself, I don’t hate the man but I don’t want coaches to pass up scoring opportunities. Schonert is evidently fine with doing just that because, in his words, "if you don’t score at the end of the first half, you don’t score." His statement goes a long way to explaining the utter lack of urgency the Bills routinely showed at the end of the first halves. If the offensive coordinator doesn’t think it’s a big deal if the team scores before halftime why should we expect a different attitude from the players?

Also, it was amazingly lame for Schonert to try to rationalize the offense’s routine wasting of time outs with the ‘everybody does it’ excuse. First, not every team squanders time outs the way the Bills have been doing. Second, the team he cites, the Patriots, has one of the best offenses in league history giving them a greater margin of error than Buffalo has. Schonert’s ‘time outs are useless’ line reminded me a lot of Mike Martz saying that turnovers were no big deal…the year after the Rams went to the Super Bowl and the year that they pretty much collapsed.

by Ron From NM on May 12, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

I totally agree with this assessment, Ron.

His rationalization of the whole timeout issue was pretty pathetic IMO. Sorry, but for a team that struggles so much to score, they can’t afford wasting timeouts and not scoring before the half like some other teams can. The offense (and entire team for that matter) was disorganized and out of sync so many times last year, that these wasted timeouts weren’t because defenses showed them something they weren’t expecting. They were due to confusion and not having the right personnel on the field, along with not being quick enough with the play call. For Schonert to be saying the things he did in this interview just scream “it’s not my fault”.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on May 12, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The New England

Reference I think is what has always bothered me most about this interview (and believe me, the whole thing bothers me).

It’s like Turk is saying “Even teams with good coaches make these mistakes, so you have to expect us to make them”.

by shouldbeworking on May 13, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I know ...

 … is when you’re inside the 10-yard line, GIVE THE BALL TO LYNCH!!!!!

I was pulling my hair out at Schonert’s play-calling in the redzone last year …

by fami1y_first on May 12, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OFFENSE IMPROVED PERIOD

They’ve improved a line that couldn’t run block and removing Royal makes them instantly better. That guy was a money for a key drop every other game.

by jpbobo41 on May 12, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think you can make a claim like this until we actually see the improvement on the football field. If football were played on paper…

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by Brian Galliford on May 13, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not like Turk very much based on what I saw him trying to do last year

Which was to make players fit his scheme, when he should be making schemes to fit his PLAYERS. He has a much better set of skill players this time, that should be able to fit his scheme, but is that a good thing?

I wonder if he has the ability to grow as a play caller and to take advantage of the fact that teams will be piling up on the lines going to 1 on1 coverage outside in a calculated move to dare us to throw early next year. And when Trent proves he can do so (he did with beating the blitz early last season) and teams start stacking up to take away the pass, can he adjust and make it so the ground game chews up yardage, clock and gets us points.

We need points, at ANY time, this team is not good enough to give them away on the offensive side of the ball, regardless of what half, quarter, or which way the wind is blowing, for a young team, every point is precious. We need to score, more, and more often.

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by WABillsfan on May 13, 2009 2:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think most of you are overreacting about the end of the half thing.

What do you want him to do? Pop a blood vessel over it? You can’t go back and change it but you can work on it for the future. “If you don’t score at the end of the first half you don’t score.” That’s like saying if we don’t score more points than the other team we don’t win. It’s a completely worthless comment.

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by MattRichWarren on May 13, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, I want him to own up to the fact that it’s something they need to work on and it’s his responsibility to make sure they get better at it.

by thefourwinds on May 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's at the combine...

take it with a grain of salt.

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by MattRichWarren on May 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did MRW and it was still bitter.....

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on May 13, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Salt????? I thought you added sugar to Kool Aid :-)

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by Joe P. on May 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overreacting

I completely agree with that. I posted my thoughts a bit higher in this topic, but let’s face it. Peyton Manning and the Colts have burned timeouts in the first half. Everybody does. And again, I think his point was that if we don’t score in the final two minutes of the 1st half because we used a couple of timeouts… what are you gonna do. It’s not like they weren’t hurrying to the line or waiting until the play clock ran down to one.

Disclaimer – Turk has some work to do. I’m not a big fan. But that interview has been blown out of proportion.

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by Run Thurmal Run! on May 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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