Around the AFC East, Week 1: New England Patriots
Each Friday during the off-season, Buffalo Rumblings dedicates our front-page space to learning a bit more about the inner workings of the Buffalo Bills' three biggest rivals - our AFC East counterparts. Here, we wrap up the Week 1 festivities with yet another QB discussion - this time on the Pats' depth behind Tom Brady with MaPatsFan at Pats Pulpit.
Perhaps the most disappointing aspect of the 2008 season for the Buffalo Bills was the team's inability to capitalize not only on a weak schedule and a 5-1 start, but the Patriots' loss of all-world QB Tom Brady for the season. Buffalo had a golden opportunity to finally compete with the Pats; instead, the Bills were once again swept by New England en route to a third consecutive 7-9 season, while the Pats calmly won 11 games. No big.
Now Brady's back. Yay?
Considering the Patriots' bold off-season decision to trade Brady's understudy, Matt Cassel, to the Kansas City Chiefs, the Patriots now have more questions than answers behind the three-time Super Bowl champion signal-caller. The Brady Backup Plan was my topic of this week's conversation with MaPatsFan, our resident Patriots blogger.
I am only recently coming to grips with the reality that Tom Brady, on an at least mostly-healthy knee, will return to his cyborg-like Bills destruction tendencies next season. (I mean, we ONLY lost to you guys by a combined 23 points last year... those were, sadly, close games from our perspective.) How concerned are you, however, with the notion of turning to Kevin O'Connell in the event that Brady has to miss any amount of time next season?
MaPatsFan: 2008 was an eye opening season for many of us in Patriots Nation; it proved just how wrong we could be. Looking at the pre-season, Matt Cassel looked simply awful and many of us, including myself, were calling for his head come cut day. As we all know, history has proven Bill Belichick is smarter than me and saw something in Cassel that fans and analysts alike missed.
We were carrying four quarterbacks (Brady, Cassel, Gutierrez, and draftee O'Connell) into the regular season and someone had to go; Gutierrez was demoted to the practice squad and the remaining three looked to be the three we'd carry. Still mystified at Cassel's retention of the backup spot, we all know what happened next.
The Kevin O'Connell question is much like the Matt Cassel question: no one really knows how he'll do until he's put into a game situation and is able to get more reps under his belt. He looked pretty good during the 2008 preseason and some think he's being groomed to take over the spot after Brady decides to call it quits and retire to his supermodel wife. I would be concerned if Kevin had to take the reins simply because he has fewer years in the system than Cassel did before his takeover: one versus three. However, O'Connell is a more gifted quarterback and a far better scrambler than any of the other quarterbacks. In fact, during college Kevin had the most rushing yards of any offensive player on his team! Word is his offensive line was so horrible he had to scramble constantly.
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Kevin O'Connell is an interesting player to me - very athletic, but very raw as a passer. I think he'd probably do OK as a fill-in starter in New England, though he'd obviously need a grace period to develop on the field, just as Cassel did last season. One thing is certain: depending on the path to get there, I doubt I'd find myself complaining too much if the Patriots had to figure out just how good O'Connell is/can be during the 2009 regular season.
What are your thoughts on New England's quarterback situation? Will Brady be able to play right away? Does his presence alone prevent the Bills from sniffing the post-season? Fire away, folks - week one of Around the AFC East is in the books.
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I think Brady is the reason we have a shot opening night.
He won’t be 100% on MNF. The knee might be but he will be rusty. Manning was and so will Brady.
O’Connell, the focus of this conversation doesn’t particularly scare me any more than any other backup QB in the league. It gets a lukewarm “meh” from me.
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by MattRichWarren on May 15, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I will agree..
I don’t think he will be at 100% either. Which, in turn, leads to a prediction: Mr Maybin will get his first carreer sack and Forced fumble adding to Brady’s 65 career fumbles in that MNF game.
by Buffalo Mo on May 15, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I sure hope not for Maybin’s sake. Think about what expectations there would be for the kid if that happened. The weight of the world…
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by MattRichWarren on May 15, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d be completely fine with that scenario – who cares about the expectations after that? He’s our first pick so he already has those expectations to live up to – if he can make plays thats what we want him to do!
Plus I wouldn’t put to much thought into Brady not being 100% – I know the Bills players are going to play like he is 100% and us fans should think that way as well. He’s too good not to think that.
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by J2 on May 15, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides, only the Bills are foolish enough to put a guy out on the field when he’s not 100% recovered from injury.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 15, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being 100% and having a knee that's 100% are two different things.
His knee will be fine. But he will be rusty. He hasn’t been able to do all his normal offseason stuff. He will probably still be pretty good though. He will have training camp and the preseason unlike Manning last year.
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by MattRichWarren on May 16, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's being optimistic
brady will be brady…
and he doesn’t even have to be brady for that offense to be good…he just has to be better than matt cassel
by tiimbitz4786 on May 15, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...certainly optimistic
I don’t think it would even matter if he is “all there.” We are going to see a lot of shifting in Defensive line this year just before the snap. Maybin is going to start on the left and pop over just on the other side of shobel while another line backer drops into maybins spot. Effectively over-loading the right.
Side note: I remember the first time they did that with Bruce. The guy kinda fell back when he was him and it was a false start. That was a beginning of something wonderful.
by Buffalo Mo on May 15, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy kinda fell back when he saw him and it was a false start.
by Buffalo Mo on May 15, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
The most pressing item for the first offseason Pats related discussion is about something that MIGHT happen (Tom Brady getting injured)?
What about their shuffling of RB’s, an unproven secondary or the question marks they have at OLB? If Brady plays the whole season this entire post becomes moot. I am not one to deny Brady’s All-World status or diminish his importance to their team but until I am proven wrong I am going to believe that last year was an aberration. Can someone provide a list of his non-2008 injuries? How many starts has he missed in his career prior to Bernard Pollard? As much as I would love to see the Bills face the Pats with somebody other than Mr. Bundchen under center I can’t agree that their #2 QB should be the lead Pats topic in this series.
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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on May 15, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, it’s not like we planned to go in order of importance. We’ve got 5 months, man. We’ll get to stuff you believe is more pressing.
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by Brian Galliford on May 15, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK thanks.
I guess I was going under the assumption that the most important/pressing issues would be the lead topics.
Can I suggest that from here on we refer to Pats #12 as Mr. Bundchen? Similar to how Bill Simmons refuses to acknowledge the name of the team that was formally the Seattle Supersonics.
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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on May 15, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha give Brian a break
I have to disagree…this is the number one issue regarding the patriots…they bet the house on tom brady being able to come back from a horrific knee injury and be the same player when the got rid of Cassel
if Brady is not able to go…which is possible…or if he is rusty…or if he re-injures…all possibilities…then they have BIG problems
by tiimbitz4786 on May 15, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and by the way...i think brady will be brady
but…i’m just saying…if you are talking patriots and potential holes/changes etc…this is where it all starts
by tiimbitz4786 on May 15, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radio Silence out of Patriots camp
The Patriots are normally tight lipped about stuff, but it’s been ridiculous trying to get info about Brady. Every once in a while, we catch a line or two from someone else’s interview and it’s always the party line: “Yeah, Tom looks great. Just like the old Tom!”. I’m getting anxious to see him on the field.
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by MaPatsFan on May 15, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MNF is because.....
Tom Bradys return AND T.O. debuting as a Bill
by Lynchisin23 on May 15, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brady is fine. He is one of the least mobile QBs in the league to begin with and he’s pretty tough mentally. So as long as that knee is good enough for him to transfer his weight as he throws, then he should be the same old Brady. I know people will try and use the Colts’ slow start from last year as evidence that it might take Brady time, but Manning wasn’t taken off PUP until about two weeks before the season started.
by kaisertown on May 15, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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