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Does Lynch appeal impact his perceived maturity?

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Bills RB Lynch getting heat for appealing suspension (photo source)

Buffalo Bills Pro Bowl running back Marshawn Lynch made headlines - in the "we don't want these headlines" way - this off-season when he was arrested on a firearm charge.  The negative continued when Lynch was sentenced to three years probation and 80 hours of community service.  It peaked when he was suspended for the first three games of the 2009 NFL season by league commissioner Roger Goodell.

Having spent just two seasons in the league, Lynch has quickly become a poster boy for bad off-field behavior.  In the off-season after his rookie year, Lynch was arrested after an alleged hit-and-run incident in downtown Buffalo.  He avoided league punishment at that time, but the way in which Lynch handled the situation led to months of bad press.

In two off-seasons, Lynch has quickly devolved from a fan favorite to a fan favorite with a growing rap sheet.  There's very little doubt that if Lynch were to find himself in a sticky legal situation again, his time in Buffalo would essentially be over - particularly after the Bills handed new contracts to productive rushers Fred Jackson and Dominic Rhodes this off-season.

Since the ultimate penalties for his second transgression was handed down, Lynch - who said all the right things in the immediate aftermath of the incident - has appealed his suspension in an effort to reduce the amount of games he'll miss.  (From everything we're hearing, the appeal is not likely to be successful.)  For some - most notably Ed Thompson of Scout.com - this appeal is viewed as the latest in a long line of bad decisions made by Lynch.

Just three months after his latest run-in with the law, Buffalo running back Marshawn Lynch has screwed up again.

Thompson sees the decision to appeal as a reneg on Lynch's part when it comes to the maturity he showed two months ago:

It was disappointing to learn that Lynch has appealed his three-game suspension for violating the league's personal conduct policy, despite his previous public statements that indicated he was serious about taking responsibility for past misjudgments and cleaning up his act.

Pardon my feeble intellect, but when did appealing a suspension become synonymous with attempting to skirt punishment?  Broncos WR Brandon Marshall had a series of issues with the law an off-season ago, including domestic violence and false imprisonment charges (he was arrested again this past March, FYI), yet his appeal - and subsequent reduction - registered nary a blip on the "this guy's a punk!" radar.

Thompson seems to be working under the assumption that Lynch's decision to appeal was his, and his alone.  The odds of that idea being true are slim.  The Buffalo Bills want Marshawn Lynch on the field, and there is a precedent for these types of suspensions - Lynch's first from the league - being reduced, as evidenced by Marshall.  Lynch has an obligation to his team to play as many games as possible; he therefore has an obligation to appeal the suspension.  Marshawn is doing what's best for his franchise - a failure to see that, with a dash of cynicism and a quick stir of the pot, seems to have formulated Thompson's opinion.

Instead, Thompson sees the appeal as a desperate attempt by Lynch to save his job:

But after the Bills added former Colts running back Dominic Rhodes to the roster in late April and the team followed that up by signing talented backup Fred Jackson to a four-year contract extension this week, Lynch's appeal begs the question of how sincere he really is about accepting responsibility for his off-the-field misjudgments.

Anyone paying the slightest bit of attention realizes that Lynch was going to appeal the suspension all along.  He knew he was going to get suspended in March; he was actually suspended on April 8.  The Bills signed Rhodes, a productive eight-year veteran, on April 17 - nine days after Lynch's suspension.  Jackson inked his four-year extension on May 13, a day prior to official word that Lynch had appealed.

So let me get this straight - Lynch is suddenly desperate to save his job because of the timing of his appeal?  I'll go ahead and disagree with that - anyone with the slightest clue knew that an appeal was coming in the early portions of March.  The argument that his appeal is an attempt to save his job is completely bogus, though not completely untrue - Lynch is most certainly in a free-for-all at the running back position.  Perhaps some on-field motivation will only serve to keep his mind on football when he's not in team facilities.

Lynch undoubtedly has a lot to prove, including that he is the long-term starter at running back in Buffalo.  He is fighting for his job, but not because of the recent signings - those merely add to the urgency.  There is no question that he has the most to prove off the field, as he's widely considered to be nothing but the best of team players on it.  Can Lynch keep his word and stay out of trouble in the off-season?  That is the big question - and a simple appeal of a suspension shouldn't impact one's prediction on how that question is answered.  It's the nature of the business - and Thompson should have realized it before calling Lynch out.

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Yeah that doesn’t make much sense really.

I’m sure the Bills, his agent and the NFLPA all gave him advice on to appeal or not to appeal.

Personally I think its good that he is trying – but wouldn’t hold my breathe and defiantely wouldn’t mind if Goodell doesn’t shorten the suspension. I think its justified and hopefully he’ll learn – thats a big “if” – but he needs to stay out of trouble.

Glad the Bills are proactive and got 2 suitable choices in his absense – good for them

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by J2 on May 19, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marshawn would be a bad teammate if he didnt appeal

your right, it makes no sense at all. If Marshawn didn’t appeal I’d view him as a pretty bad teammate. Everyone on the team knows its win now mode, they need him.

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by poz on May 19, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Entirely agre, with both of you.

And I too wouldn’t be entirely disapointed if his appeal gets turned down. I hoping that the lesson might stick a little better if he has to serve the full 3 games.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 20, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

People aren’t supposed to appeal now? I have no idea how wanting to be on the field makes him a bad guy in this argument. Isn’t he supposed to want to play more games? You can be remorseful and still try and play.

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by MattRichWarren on May 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

duh!

hes supposed to sulk and dwell on the past, right? Thats always how to deal with your problems. This Ed Thompson guy needs to stop trying to sensationalize stories. Maybe this comes with the territory of having TO on your team MRW. Maybe the media just wants to make it seem like alls bad in Buffalo so they can blame it all on TO!

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by poz on May 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean they falsly blamed TO for ruining an already disfunctional Dallas lockeroom that had no identity? And that they were overly heavy on TO for calling out McNabb for playing badly in a game, using the excuse that McNabb had a broken ankle, all while entirely forgetting that Owens played in the Super Bowl with a broken leg? Impossible! The media is not that biased!

by CanadianBillsFan on May 20, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that is just plain silly.

Someone needs to tell Thompson that the three years probation and 80 hours of community service is what Lynch needs to man up and take care of, not the three game league suspension.

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by sireric on May 19, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You just know that if Lynch didn’t appeal, he would have gone on a screed about how Lynch doesn’t care about playing, and is just another example of the spoiled athlete that doesn’t care about anything but the paycheck.

In a word, yawn.

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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on May 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol, which would also be a flawed argument because Lynch is losing money by not playing.

by CanadianBillsFan on May 20, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guy is absolutely clueless.

Seriously, none of this makes any sense.

So a guy shouldn’t appeal a suspension? He shouldn’t try to get it reduced so he can play sooner? He shouldn’t try to reduce his financial loss? A guy, that is the unquestioned starter, is afraid of losing his job to a couple of career backups simply because they got new contracts?

I’m sure the majority of you would also believe that the best way to accept responsibility for his off-field issues is to, ya know, not get in trouble any more…..

Talk about writing an article just to drum up some controversy.

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by Kurupt on May 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is all bunk, I agree with everyone above, Thompson is just trying to stir up some news

Since afterall, Owens is behaving, no one else other Corey has been in trouble recently and it looks like Whitner is getting off on charges, so he need something to complain about regarding the Bills and our “troubled” players.

Get a life Thompson, and maybe do some real research, oh yeah, and some real thought into your articles.

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by WABillsfan on May 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is his job

People forget that for an NFL player, This is their job. You dont play ya dont get payed.

I am the same age as marshawn. If I had millions of dollars and the spot light on me, I would not be squeaky clean either. The ability to function in the NFL circus will develop along with his rushing skills. If we were to loose him it would be a huge blow to this team, he has the ability and the drive to be one of the greats in this sport.

I guess the same applies for Thompson, this is his job, good or bad at it, he is trying to get noticed. I disagree with him but…

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by billsoferie on May 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree with all, Thompson is an idiot

Marshawn is not apealing Goodell’s decision to someone else because he disagrees with it. He is appealing to Goodell himself, in effect saying that he accepts Goodell’s judgement and that in light of the fact that he has been doing all the right things since the incident, he is appealing to Goodell to grant a bit of leniancy.

It’s not as if Marshawn is saying, “F@# you Roger, 3 games is too long, try again”

That is the process as everyone knows it. I’m guessing that Goodell himself told Lynch that if he handled himself like a man the next few months that he would look at the length of the suspension and consider shortening it.

I hope he does

by shouldbeworking on May 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m impressed you wrote that many words on something that over 90% of people think ’that’s a really silly argument to make’.

by Pistol on May 19, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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by Brian Galliford on May 19, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please don’t use “pwn”…..PLEASE!!!!!

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by Kurupt on May 19, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So tell me...

what did Brandon Marshall get in trouble for this year?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 19, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Disorderly conduct – allegedly.

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by Brian Galliford on May 19, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matter of time…matter of time, i’d say.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 19, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think

this Thompson guy even deserves you writing an article to refute his claims! He is completely off-his rocker here. First off, Lynch is losing something like ~$130k if he misses all 3 games of his base salary. So he’s losing roughly $40K a game. So that right there is clearly one reason he appealed. But all the points you mentioned are right on as well Brian…Lynch is completely fine. He is immature, hardly shocking for a 23 year old with millions of dollars in the bank. The people you hang with and the habits you have are hard to break, and only time will tell. This is exactly why the NFL stands for “Not for Long.” Lynch has two choices, and hopefully he’ll pick himself up and grow up from this incident. But in no way did he make a big mistake as this Thompson guy states bc he appealed the FINE! Oh that is so outrageous!

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by MARVelous on May 19, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lynch Appeal

Great article! Thompson is way out of line. I would certainly hope that Lynch would exhaust all avenues of getting his suspension reduced. He owes that to his teammates, Bills Fans and Ralph. Failure to appeal would have been something to complain about.

by bobb498 on May 19, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the problem is

after Lynch’s meeting with Goodell he was saying that he regretted his mistakes, expected to be suspended, and was willing to accept the consequences of his actions. appealing the consequence tends to make the acknowledgment of wrongdoing ring a bit hollow. maybe making a promise to pledge his income from any reduced-penalty games to charity would help. never happen, i know.

 he’s asking for mercy, but what has he done to earn it?

by dzil on May 19, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he has an obligation to his team to play as many games as possible..

did you even read the brian’s thoughts in the post.. what has any professional athlete done to earn mercy when appealing these suspensions.. every athlete in every sport who has been suspended has appealed, and they have the right to appeal, and now it’s up to the commisioner to make a decisoin on whether to shorten the suspension or not.. the ball is now in his court again.. like brian said marshall appealed no big deal.. every player appeals, and as brian said in his write-up do you really think this appeal is only marshawn’s decision?? of course not…

by Shovel51 on May 19, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you even read my post? I didn’t remotely suggest that he doesn’t have a right to appeal, just that it makes his claim of accepting the consequences of his actions seem a tad hypocritical. your response has zero to do with my comment

by dzil on May 19, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it makes his claim of accepting the consequences of his actions seem a tad hypocritical

I think you’re putting words in Marshawn’s mouth. Never once did he say anything about “owning up to the consequences” – he concentrated mostly on “mending his ways” and “changing his behavior”. Link

So he’s not being hypocritical, simply because you’re claiming he said things that he didn’t actually say.

And as an appeal has zero to do with Lynch mending his ways, it’s kind of hard to hold it against him – particularly since it’s the smart thing to do. I can’t fathom a way that anyone could see anything negative in Lynch appealing. You may not see anything positive, but there’s zero negative.

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by Brian Galliford on May 19, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pardon me. I failed to realize that accepting responsibility doesn’t mean accepting the consequences that go along with it, at least not when you’re a millionaire pro athlete. no hypocrisy there, none at all.

maybe someone could help me to understand what accepting responsibility means to marshawn.

by dzil on May 19, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that what is to be contested here, is whether or not the punishment that got handed to Marshawn (3 years probation, 80 hours community service, and a 3 game suspension) is appropriate for his crime. Oddly enough, the process by which he checks that is the appeals process. If an independent arbitrator finds that the 3 game suspension should be upheld, then Lynch should and will serve it, there by suffering the consequences of his actions.

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by sireric on May 19, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eric...

it’s even worse than that! Goodell is the appeals process. The same guy that handed down the punishment examines the appeal. If he wants to change his mind, let him change his mind. But how does that show that Marshawn isn’t willing to accept the consequences again?

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by MattRichWarren on May 20, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe someone could help me to understand what accepting responsibility means to marshawn.

I thought that was pretty clear in the article I linked – accepting responsibility meant addressing the situation quickly and changing his behavior. If that’s not enough for you… well, then, I guess we’ll just end the discussion here, because it won’t go anywhere.

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by Brian Galliford on May 20, 2009 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not much time has passed to support the change of behavior argument. i think that the timing of his appeal is poor, given a few more months of crime-free behavior would likely increase the possibility of success.

by dzil on May 20, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe somebody could answer this but has he performed his community service? Was there a time limit on his appeal?

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by MattRichWarren on May 20, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn’t he have to appeal before the season starts? The process takes time, if he waits too long, what is the point?

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by sireric on May 20, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not much time has passed to support the change of behavior argument

Agreed, and…

i think that the timing of his appeal is poor

Mostly agreed. Events unfolded in such a way that looking at the pure surface, as Thompson did, it appears bad. My point is that it isn’t bad. Lynch still has a ton to prove from the off-field character standpoint and needs to pass more time out of trouble in order to do said proving; I never believed otherwise.

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by Brian Galliford on May 20, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you serious dzil "appealing the consequence tends to make the acknowledgment of wrongdoing ring a bit hollow"

i think i responded to your post right on… and even the part about asking for mercy but what has he done to earn it.. i don’t see what i said in my post that would lead you to believe i didn’t read your post…

you are saying he shouldn’t appeal.. and i am saying that’s his right to appeal so why not take advantage of it as every other pro athlete has done.. they all say the same things.. they are going to change their ways they are going to accept the consequences of their actions, and he is, but if he can get them lowered why wouldn’t you.. you would have to be foolish not to..

ok dzil.. if you were making $120,000 a year at your job, and you got susupended 3 months and $30,000 in pay for an illegal action, i’m sure you would take responsibility for those actions and accept your punishment because that’s the only choice you would have.. but if you could appeal the 3 month/$30,000 dollar punishment and get it knocked down to a 1 month/$10,000 dollar punishment wouldn’t you? wouldn’t you feel that you would owe it to your family to do so, so you could be there to be able to take care of them, and maybe even your co-workers who depend on your for certain things. i can’t see anyone in there right mind not appealing a punishment if they thought there was a possibility of getting it lowered.

by Shovel51 on May 20, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so, tell me what I'm saying!

i NEVER said, suggested or otherwise intimated that he shouldn’t appeal, you are arguing with yourself. what I tried to point out was that his comments about expecting to be suspended don’t help his argument against the suspension.

my point was that he should have kept his mouth shut regarding his expectation of being suspended.

by dzil on May 20, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the fact that he said, “I expect to be suspended,” never anywhere indicates that he’s in agreement it should be for 3 games. This is where your argument fails.

by thefourwinds on May 20, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

o.k.

yep. it was a great idea for marshawn to basically ask for a suspension. how could i have ever thought otherwise? I just don’t know what came over me.

by dzil on May 20, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

 C’mon dude, take it easy. This was his second offense in as many years, I can’t think of anybody who thought that he wasn’t going to get suspended. Marshawn was stating the obvious. Was it dumb for him to say that? I don’t think so because I really don’t see how it made any difference. Goodell was going to give him a suspension whether Marshawn said that or not.

 You seem to be the only guy toeing the line for the “Ed Thompson side,” and it can be tough to do that sometimes. Just take it easy and realize that not everyone is attacking you.

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by sireric on May 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not my intent

my opinion is not at all intended to defend anything that Thompson wrote. As someone who deals with personnel issues on a daily basis, I wonder if Goodell doesn’t now feel that Marshawn’s apologies were just blowing smoke up his arse. Not saying that Lynch wasn’t being sincere, but I can see where Goodell might wonder.
gotta say though, it has perturbed me to get all these responses claiming that I don’t think Lynch should appeal. That’s NOT my opinion at all. I just think he could have positioned himself better for it. He really hasn’t done anything, since the announcement of his suspension, that I’d expect to sway Goodell in a positive way.
Drugs combined with a loaded gun would have landed most other people in the big house. I’d say Marshawn should consider how lucky he has been.

I am so done with this thread.

by dzil on May 20, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marhsawn didn’t ask for a suspension. He said that after meeting with Goodell. He said he was going to get suspended because Goodell had already told him he was going to be suspended. I think your just trying to read into something that isn’t there.

by kaisertown on May 22, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look at it this way

Lynch has to behave from the point the suspension is issued until the NFL makes a ruling on the appeal. If during that time Lynch is doing and saying the right things and keeping out of trouble, Goodell might decide to shave a game or two off. It is all part of the process. I doubt Goodell is surprised by this move and in fact considered it when he made his initial ruling.

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by Joe P. on May 19, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was willing to accept the consequences of his actions.

So does the 3 years of probation and 80 hours of community service mean nothing?

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by sireric on May 19, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that has nothing to do with the NFL.

by dzil on May 19, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The whole point of the appeals process is to examine if the original punishment handed down by Goodell is fair, or if it was too much. So are we now saying that Lynch should just take his punishment and like it whether it was fair or not? If Goodell had handed down a year long ban should Marshawn have just smiled and taken it?

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by sireric on May 19, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no. he should have chosen his words more carefully. if he simply stopped at the apology and regret statements it would be fine. saying “I expect to be suspended” was stupid. Ranks right there with Donte’s “I expect the charges to be dropped” statement.

by dzil on May 19, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To date:

Marshawn said "I expect to be suspended". And was right.
Donte said "I expect the charges to be dropped". Not yet.

I don’t know that you can say Marshawn was a dumb for saying that when, a) he was, and b) I don’t think anybody disagreed with him.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 19, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s dumb to state the obvious(forthcoming suspension) if you intend to appeal it. Admitting to the expectation of a forthcoming suspension suggests that he felt it was appropriate. and yes, it’s a dumb thing to do if he wanted to position himself to appeal the suspension.

Donte predicted that charges against him would be dropped at today’s hearing, not at some future date. “yet” has come and gone. Now there’s more blather about a video that will exonerate him, dumb again. dude needs to just shut up. save the defense for court.

by dzil on May 19, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he never said, “I expect to be suspended for three games.”

by thefourwinds on May 19, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Lynch might have said that thinking that the suspension would be 1 or 2 games, and when he got 3, he felt it was best if he appealed.

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by sireric on May 19, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just because goodell suspended him for three games

doesn’t mean the punishment fits the offense. the idea of the appeal is to get some alternate opinions on what is right.

just because the boss says its right its right?

don’t think so.

by oompaloompa on May 19, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just because the boss says its right its right?

My last employer proved that wrong many times.

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by sireric on May 19, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe...

Maybe next time I get a speeding ticket or don’t bother to have my inspection done in a timely manner, I’ll go to court, the judge will knock the fine down to 1/3 of what it originally was, and I’ll insist on paying the original fine to showcase my “maturity.”

Nice write up, Brian…and as the results of that poll show, it’s pretty much a slam-dunk argument to try to make.

by Make a play Whitner on May 20, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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