State of the Bills Roster: Linebacker
MLB Paul Posluszny (above) should improve in second full season (photo source)
Now that the 2009 NFL Draft is in the books and off-season player acquisition will crawl at a snail's pace, Buffalo Rumblings has begun re-examining the Buffalo Bills' revamped roster. We continue off our 'State of the Roster' series this morning with a look at the linebacker position. Previous installments: QB, RB, TE, OT, G/C, DE, DT, S.
Entering the 2008 NFL regular season, linebacker was supposed to be an emerging team strength for the Buffalo Bills. Then veteran Angelo Crowell was placed on Injured Reserve before the season began; he has since signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as an unrestricted free agent. Meanwhile, play from the team's starters last season was hit-and-miss, with big plays in some games outshone by highly average overall play in most others.
Not much has changed at linebacker for the Bills at the top of the pecking order. As it stands now, the trio of 'backers that ended the '08 season as starters will inherit those roles for next season. In a critical year for the Bills, however, the team may not be done addressing the position, as the team is still in play for free agent LB Pisa Tinoisamoa. For now, however, the team has added some parts, but the question is whether or not those parts are significant enough to raise this group's level of play.
STARTER (WLB): Kawika Mitchell
Last year's key addition at the position put together a productive, yet inconsistent 2008 season. While his stat line was impressive (82 tackles, a career-high 4 sacks and 2 INT) and he made clutch interceptions in victories over San Diego and Denver, he also disappeared for stretches and fought bouts of poor tackling. Mitchell is what he is - a big, tough player that can help you in a lot of ways and make big plays. He's a pro's pro. But he's not a defensive anchor in that he won't make plays for you game in and game out. That's fine - he is what he is, and that's just a good football player. A bit more consistency would be nice, however.
STARTER (MLB): Paul Posluszny
The two-year pro wrapped up his first full season as a starting linebacker in the NFL as the Bills' leading tackler. He was consistent, and for a player that was essentially a rookie, that's a good sign. What's missing from the arsenal of Poz is big-play ability; he's not a great pass rusher, and he seemed a hair slow recognition-wise defending the pass. The latter will hopefully change with experience; Poz does have the ability to be a strong pass defender. The real question surrounding Poz isn't centered around a lack of talent; it's whether or not his upside is as considerable as we once thought it was.
STARTER (SLB): Keith Ellison
Buffalo didn't exactly want to enter 2009 with Ellison still listed as a starter, but unless something happens on the free agent front with Tinoisamoa, that appears to be exactly what's going to happen. Again, Ellison is a "he is what he is" player - smart and more dependable than people realize, but lacking in the physical skill set to make him a true NFL starter. He is, in a phrase, a career backup - and a pretty good one at that.
Pat Thomas
The athletic former Chief and Jaguar has starting experience in the league and a familiarity with Buffalo's defensive system. For now, he is Ellison's chief competition for the starting SAM spot - and his chances of beating out the three-year veteran are more than fair.
John DiGiorgio
Playing place of an injured Posluszny in 2007, DiGiorgio quietly put together an impressive season in just his second year removed from being an undrafted free agent out of Saginaw Valley State. He's coming off of a knee injury, but with a new contract in hand, he has a chance to establish himself as a long-term reserve middle linebacker and special teams ace in Buffalo.
Alvin Bowen
Hey, look! Another Bills linebacker coming off of injury! The active and athletic Bowen missed his entire rookie season - including most of training camp - with a knee injury. He's back with an outside shot to start at SAM, and he'll definitely be a big part of Bobby April's plans on special teams.
Nic Harris
The rookie fifth-round pick out of Oklahoma played safety in college, but will be moved to linebacker in the pros. The team views him as more active, physical and a bigger playmaker than some of the players listed above Harris here, but he'll start out low on the totem pole and be yet another option for April in his loaded special teams deck.
This is a fairly deep (numbers-wise) position, folks - so we've got four more names plus some extra analysis for you after the jump.
Blake Costanzo
Remember Josh Stamer? Costanzo has the look of being the Bills' Stamer 2.0 - he'll rarely, if ever, see the field as a defender, but he's outstanding on any special teams unit he's a part of. Don't be shocked if Blake finds a way to stick on the roster - he's been a pre-season cut each of the past two years, and yet here we are, still talking about the guy.
Jon Corto
He was a nice story last year, playing for the Bills after growing up in Orchard Park. With imported depth and the possibility of a Tinoisamoa signing, however, Corto's a longshot to stick around.
Marcus Buggs
Say it with me: "Bills linebacker coming off of devastating injury." Yep - Buggs fits that profile, too. He's being worked at MLB early in OTAs, and he's also got some practice squad eligibility left. He's got a solid chance to stick around in that capacity.
Ashlee Palmer
The rookie UDFA is super athletic, but that's about where his allure ends for now. He's got a lot to prove on the field; if he can pick up the defense relatively quickly, he could be stashed on the practice squad.
Contract situations: As it stands right now, the only player that's locked up beyond two more seasons is Mitchell, who enters the second year of a five-year deal he signed last spring. Posluszny is a candidate for an early extension; don't be surprised if he gets something mid-season. As for the rest of the players here, it looks like Buffalo is throwing a lot of talent at the wall and seeing what sticks. Harris and Bowen have arguably the most upside, and their standing with the club is probably also strongest.
Bottom Line
I've said it before and I'll say it again - considering the Bills' sheer amount of needs entering free agency and the type of defense the team prefers to play, they addressed this situation about as intelligently as they could - with the return of Bowen, they've essentially added three players (Thomas and Harris included) that can at least push Ellison for his starting role - something Ellison did not have to endure in 2008. If the team can find a way to bring in Tinoisamoa, that obviously changes the picture a bit and gives the team outstanding depth.
If there is a concern defensively (outside of the pass rush), linebacker is where that concern lies. Can Posluszny improve to the point where he's considered the clear anchor of the defensive unit? Can Mitchell play a bit more consistently while still delivering clutch plays here and there? Can anyone unseat Ellison in the SAM role? In this defense, linebacker is low in the pecking order in terms of importance - but that doesn't mean that mediocre-to-average play is acceptable. This group needs to be more productive, starting at the top.
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Keep the first 7 LB’s and hope we get better play out of Ellison/replacement.
It’s unfortunate how redundant some of these guys are. Ellison, Bowen, Harris, Thomas….none of them are markedly better than the other, which is ok for our depth, but not good for the starting position. Maybe one of the young guys will make his presence felt and move ahead of the others, but that seems unlikely.
I could see Costanza making it over Bowen/Harris, which would move one of them to the PS. I don’t think his ST’s ability is that great, where he’d knock a guy off the roster like that, though. Pretty much all our LB’s outside of Poz and Mitchell are plenty capable enough of playing on all our ST units, and doing well there.
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by Kurupt on May 21, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the first 7.
I don’t see them as redundant. I like the “cream rise to the top” concept. Throw them all out there and who does better. Harris has the opportunity to be something special. Bowen does too but we’ll see how his knee is. Thomas and Ellison are what they are and I think one of them is redundant which is why I said earlier this offseason that Thomas might get cut.
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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Thomas as a serious cut possibility unless he beat<s out Ellisson for the starter role of REALY shines on special teams. Personally I’d keep Costanzo before him on special teams.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 22, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why though?
Costanzo offers nothing to the defense. Bowen, Harris, and Thomas all can be as good as Costanzo on special teams. He was cut last year and the year before and was re-signed. I can see the same scenario happening this year when someone goes down.
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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might be right on that one. I just don’t like Thomas ;)
by CanadianBillsFan on May 22, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But when a team keeps 7 LBs, they don’t all have to contribute to the defense. In fact, they won’t all contribute, so the defensive ability of the 7th LB is irrelevant. Bowen, Harris and Thomas might all be good special teamers, but I’m going to wait until I see it before I can claim that they are as good as Costanzo, who was probably the best kickoff coverage guy on the team last year.
And I’m not sure where the thought that Thomas is a good special teamer is coming from. He’s probably solid or better, but considering that he was only active for 13 games in his first three NFL seasons, I’m assuming that he can’t be that good on specials. I bet Bowen is a great special teamer, but I also believe that Buffalo drafted almost solely for special teams and I don’t really have a read on Harris yet. He’s a big hitter, but his straight line speed is pretty bad and I don’t know how his change of direction or ability to block will be.
by kaisertown on May 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how you say Thomas couldn't be that good...
but then tell me you think Bowen will be a great ST when he has barely been in training camp. I like Bowen’s upside but Thomas is a proven (unspectacular) product.
Most of Thomas’s tackles were on special teams in his first few years and a bunch of his last year were, too. That’s why I call him a special teams guy. He also started 9 games last year, something I wouldn’t want Costanzo doing for my team.
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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Thomas started nine games year and he only had 48 tackles. For a MLB that’s pathetic. If he had special teams tackles then it’s even sadder. But my point about Thomas is that if he were a good STer, then why was he inactive for so many games?
I think Bowen is a good special teamer, but it’s only because I didn’t like the draft pick and think that Bowen is completely unable to contribute on D. So I assume that Bowen was drafted solely for specials.
by kaisertown on May 22, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, some good news as Pisa Tinoisamoa is not expected to visit the Eagles after all, leaving us and Chicago as the only potential suitors as of right now.
I tend to disagree that Poz’s ceiling has lowered. As you said he played one full season and looked pretty consistent. I think thats the first step and I think playmaking will come this year as the coaches ask him to do more. I see no reason to lower expectations. I do expect us to be raving about his performance this year. Don’t forget, a pass rush doesn’t just benefit the secondary. A good D-line helps MLBs get into the backfield undetected and opens up chances for INTs for them as well.
Speaking of ceiling’s, wasn’t Alvin Bowen supposed to be a great pick up? Why isn’t he more serious competition for Ellison. Based on the article, you make it sound like its Thomas and Ellison competing with Bowen having an outside chance. I thought he was supposed to be a potential starter in this league. Ellison may be a good career back up, but if you are supposed to be a potential starter, pushing Ellison shouldn’t be a problem.
The fact is that this front office has not addressed linebacker as well as it could, if it signs Pisa Tinoisamoa then I have no criticism for them. But if they don’t then how can we be anything but disappointed in them? I still don’t get why everyone is so pumped about the Nic Harris signing. Great, so we add another linebacker to a slew of names who can’t even push Ellison for the starting position. Also, we already have enough names of mid to late round linebackers who are supposed to develop into potential starters. Marcus Buggs got a lot of hype and Alvin Bowen got a lot of hype. Adding Nic Harris just seems redundant. Does anyone envision him starting in 2 years? 3 years? I think its more likely Bowen is starting. So good pick for depth, but doesn’t really do much to help the situation, especially with Thomas and others still here.
I loved our draft but if I could change anything it would have been taking a linebacker in the second round instead of Jairus Byrd. I know they are 3-4 guys but Everette Brown and Connor Barwin were still there and I’m willing to bet our coaches can find creative ways to use them at OLB. But no point in rehashing old arguments. If they sign Pisa Tinoisamoa the point is moot. I guess what i’m trying to say is, they didn’t do enough at linebacker. Its probably the only thing I’m not happy about this off-season. Don’t think I’m complaining, because I certainly have nothing but praise for the front office for this off-season but to say “they addressed this position as intelligently as they could” would seem to be ignoring the needs list this community voted on earlier. If I recall, a majority of us saw linebacker as a far greater need than safety. Taking Jairus Byrd over Brown and Barwin thus does not constitute the most intelligent move on my part. I stand corrected if safety was decided to be higher on the list.
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by poz on May 21, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here are my quick hits
1) Tom Modrak in an interview last year on bb.com did not expect at all for Bowen to compete for a starting job. He said something along the lines that we would be shocked if he was starting. I believe they don’t see him more than a special teams guy. My issue with all these guys is they AIN’T FAST Enough! Harris is like 4.7, 4.8….I don’t now Thomas’ speed, but I want a guy that can pursue sideline to sideline. That’s what bothers me about this group. Finding a “heady” SLB is not what we need, we need an athlete who can get after it.
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by MARVelous on May 21, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fast LBs
I understand that their 40 times may not be blazing…but for LBs, change of direction and lateral speed are far more important than straight line speed. I like Nic Harris alot, he is by far our most explosive LB in terms of speed & quickness, he is also one of the bigger LBs…so yeah, I actually see him competing for the starting spot later in the year. He is more of a playmaker than Ellison. P. Thomas and Bowen, I am not so familiar with.
by NorCal BillsFan on May 21, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
harris
Harris’ MO is being in the right place and having quick instincts to diagnose plays and thus react….however, I can imagine at the NFL level that’s going to take a long time to learn the elaborate offensive schemes compared to college. But the most athletic guy should win out, cuz in our defense it’s not super complicated form a LB perspective….its more just know your fits and then get after the ball carrier
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by MARVelous on May 21, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harris is not speedy or quick. Take a look at his combine results. Many of his shuttle times and splits were as bad as DT’s.
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by Kurupt on May 21, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand how this D was built, nor do I agree with it. For a team running a Tampa 2, there is usually a dependency on speed. Well, we don’t have it. Definitely not in our front 7 where we need it most. We don’t have the LB’s that are quick/fast enough to pursue sideline to sideline, and I don’t understand why they built the D without this speed. Same with our quickness off the edge for the pass rush. They FINALLY added a guy like Maybin after all these poor seasons…..
~K
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by Kurupt on May 21, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is why
we need to sign Pisa so bad. He is that speedy quick linebacker we have been needing in this Tampa 2 for so long! If we don’t sign him this week I just dont see how the front office intelligently handled the position. We are in just as bad a position as before the off-season, hence it was not handled at all, intelligently or not.
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by poz on May 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you that we sould have taken Brown over Byrd. He is a athletic guy who could make the transition. I don’t think that would have been too much to ask. i was sooo mad when we passed on him ,it to me was the biggest mistake of our draft. In a year or two this will become more apparent when we look at is production.
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by billsoferie on May 21, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to disagree that Poz’s ceiling has lowered. As you said he played one full season and looked pretty consistent. I think thats the first step and I think playmaking will come this year as the coaches ask him to do more.
I think it’s the opposite. Young players that are inconsistent, but show flashes of playmaking ability seem to be the guys that can develop into consistent playmakers. I think that’s a lot better than consistent young guys who don’t show much playmaking ability (a la Whitner). Usually guys will at least show some playmaking ability if they are going to be counted on that for the future.
When was Alvin Bowen supposedly such a great pickup? A 225 lb 5th rounder doesn’t usually carry many expectations. I’ll be surprised if he contributes on defense. Same w/Harris.
Brown and Barwin aren’t 4-3 LB’s, especially Brown. Weren’t they both drafted by 4-3 teams as DE’s?
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by Kurupt on May 21, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe I’m mistaken but I remember everyone saying that Bowen was a great late pick up, much as many people are already saying Nic Harris is an explosive playmaker who will see the field. I guess my point was more that we just keep loading up on linebackers who are never going to start and by doing so aren’t even bringing in competition for Ellison. I just don’t get it.
Yea, Barwin and Brown aren’t technically 4-3 linebackers but they are playmakers and I can bet that good coaches could make them fit. We always here about how teams are transitioning a linebacker from a 4-3 guy to a 3-4 guy or a DE to a 3-4 outside backer and I think it can be done in reverse too. I know Barwin and Brown went to Houston and Carolina respectively so they are playing on the ground. However, I’d rather take a chance on converting Barwin/Brown or Maybin to OLB than converting Jairus Byrd to S. Think of it this way, even if they couldn’t contribute on defense at linebacker right away then at least we are ready to replace Schobel/Denney/Kelsay when they all break down all at once.
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by poz on May 21, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your post.
First off, I agree that the best days are ahead for Poz. He will be cranking out 100 plus tackles a year for some time. Although undersized and injury prone, Pisa would be an upgrade over Ellison, but not a big upgrade. So how much $ are you willing to tie up for Pisa? I’d go easy if I were management and that’s probably why Pisa is still shopping for a home.
I guess I’m one of the few that looks at safety as a liability spot. Buffalo cannot field the same quality of starters as they do at the LB postion. There is no depth. There are no playmakers. Byrd was a good decision. And regards Brown, go look at the Florida game…….he disappeared. Look at any of the big games and he was a non factor. His stats came off weak opposition. He is undersized and dropped for a reason in the draft. Barwin is raw.
by rdusa on May 21, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me bud, there are a ton of us who see safety as a bit of a liability…..
To be fair to Brown, he had 3 sacks each against Virginia Tech, Clemson and Maryland, which I remember the FSU blogger telling me were some of the only games he wasn’t double teamed….I wouldn’t say he disppeared in big games….Those aren’t bad teams.
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by Kurupt on May 21, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Entirely agree on Puz
He said it himself that he felt half a step behind on a lot of plays last year. I think that half step behind isn’t so much because of physical speed, but because of how quickly he decideds where to go on a play; and that does depend on experience.
If he can take that split second less to decide where to go on a play we could see a lot more big plays out of Puz this year.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 22, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dunno if anyone pointed this out, but there’s a typo in the quote box at the top of the article, brian. it says that this morning’s review is of the safety position, rather than the linebacker corps. it’s in the last sentence.
by the_prophet on May 21, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew, sooner or later, that I’d forget to change that. I mean… I have no idea what you’re talking about. :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 21, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brians using the ESPN defense…
by NorCal BillsFan on May 21, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i did a curriculum guide as an independent study this year in grad school, and some of the copy-pasted headers bore this mark of shame. thank goodness i did a serious amount of proofreading or i would have lost a letter grade for sure.
by the_prophet on May 21, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see Pisa T. sign with the Bills but...
Chris Brown makes a good point about him having to swallow his pride a little bit and accept less money. He points out here that his top 2 suitors (Bills & Bears) likely see him as nothing more than a 2-down player. I would tend to agree with that assessment. Hopefully he sees the writing on the wall about his worth to these teams and instead looks at the Bills as a young team on the rise and wants the opportunity to be a part of something special.
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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on May 21, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
Bears LB Hunter Hillenmeye is reportedly recovering from hernia and other injuries. So it looks like his playing chances are even in both places. But if he does want to continue his leadership role I think he’d have a better opportunity to do that here than in Chicago with Urlacher and Briggs
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by poz on May 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hillenmeyer's status doesn't matter that much.
Pisa would would replace him as the starter in Chicago and Ellison as the starter in Buffalo. In either way he would still only be a 2-down player (according to Chris Brown) and not be on the field in obvious passing situations. Urlacher and Briggs would stay on for the Bears and Poz and Mitchell would stay on for the Bills just like last season. The point is that Pisa will have to lower his demand from “starter money” because it doesn’t sound like any other teams are actively pursuing him, probably because he’s not as good of a fit with anyone else.
The only way Hillenmeyer plays into this is if the Bears get really nervous that he won’t be ready for the season and throw more money at Pisa in desperation, although they already have a ton of $$ committed to their LBers.
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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on May 21, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he’s truly only a 2 down player, then why even bother? we need a full-time starter at linebacker.
by chaucer on May 22, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he is still an upgrade over Ellison...
who is also a two down player.
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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a joke.
Ellison comes off the field with the nickel. Pisa would do the same thing.
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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas is reportedly shopping Greg Ellis
by Ron From NM on May 21, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still a productive pass rusher, but he’s 33. He won’t be an OLB here, so would we be willing to bring him in as a pass rusher?
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by Kurupt on May 22, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that too.
Not a great locker room guy, 33… what would I be willing to give for him? Where would he play. Lots of questions.
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by MattRichWarren on May 22, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
poz
The real question surrounding Poz isn’t centered around a lack of talent; it’s whether or not his upside is as considerable as we once thought it was.
I like that you state this. Indeed, this is something that I have been wondering. Let’s hope his ceiling is still high.
by chaucer on May 22, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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