Celebrating 50 Years of Bills Football with 50 All-Time Bills
As part of the celebration of 50 years of Buffalo Bills football and the AFL, we here at Buffalo Rumblings thought it would be fun to take a look back at some of the franchise's all-time greats. What better way to celebrate 50 years of our favorite team than by looking at 50 of the best players we've cheered for? There have been a number of superstars that have captured the hearts of Bills fans everywhere, including a handful of Hall of Famers. There have also been a number of long-time Bills that had very good, productive careers, earning the respect from those who watched their lengthy stays in Buffalo. Some Bills were great in short bursts, while some were good over a long period of time. I will attempt to honor these players for their on-field accomplishments and even educate the younger fans (including myself) about some of the long forgotten players of yesteryear.
Over the next three to four months, I plan to count down my list of the Top 50 Bills of All-Time by posting a brief biography, big moments, stats and hopefully a few highlights of each player. I've also found some great pictures of the old-time players that I will include, as well. There is no real timetable for the posting of each player, but I hope to add two or three per week.
I used the following criteria when developing this list:
* Must have played three seasons for the Bills
* Players only; no coaches, executives or other folks associated with the team
* Statistical production
* All-Pro selections and Pro Bowl appearances
* Longevity with the franchise and in the league
* Other honors (i.e. Bills Wall of Fame)
* Wins
* Good old fashioned opinion
I know there might be a great deal of disagreement with how I ranked certain players, and who I left off, but please know this was a very subjective exercise. This was difficult for me as I only have about 20 years of first hand Bills knowledge to go with. The older players were before my time, so I'm basing my opinion of them on the opinions of others. The plan isn't to debate where the players are ranked, but rather to discuss these guys as players and how great they were. I'd love to hear some of your memories of them, what they meant to you when they played and any other stories or thoughts you'd like to add.
We've had a tough decade of Bills football, but it's always fun to remember the past and how this franchise has grown. This exercise is as much a history report as it is to branch out our topics for debate. I'm looking forward to learning more about some of the old players, remembering some of my favorites from my youth and comparing our recent players to those of years past. I hope you will find it as enjoyable as I will!
We'll get started on this series, entitled "50 All-Time Buffalo Bills". If you've got any suggestions for the series or just want to share your excitement and anticipation for something so awesome, leave it in the comments section!
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unless arrests are taken into account :-)
"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown
In that case...
Where does O.J. belong? (as far as this list goes)
Aaron Maybe?
by MonStarr_716 on May 24, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
In keeping with the spirit of Kurupt's criteria for this exercise,
the focus should be on OJ’s playing days….. so probably pretty high. That said, I have already gone on record as saying I would not want the Bills to further honor/associate with OJ in any way.
"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown
I’d like to think that this is one list where we can just concentrate on the players’ playing careers and let past discretions be. Lets honour the players for what they did on the feild.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 24, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I’d like to think that this is one list where we can just concentrate on the players’ playing careers and let past discretions be. Lets honour the players for what they did on the field
Aaron Maybe?
by MonStarr_716 on May 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Wins count according to Kurupt
So that’s why I give the edge to Bruce over OJ for number 1. Kelly and OJ have to fight it out for #2.
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If wins count...
Bruce, Jim, Thurman and Andre should all be ahead of OJ.
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by MattRichWarren on May 24, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think they're weighted that much.
I assume they’re factored in, but wins can’t say everything, what if OJ played on the team of the 90s?
Bruce has to be #1, you can argue he’s the best player at his position ever (in the history of the NFL) and was an 11 time pro bowler with 2 Defensive Player of the Year awards.
Of course being the best player at your position alone doesn’t qualify you to be #1 either, if that was the case it’d be Tasker.
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I disagree. Top three, yes, but #1 to me is Jim Kelly.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 24, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelly should be top 3
But he played in an era where he wasn’t even the best QB (Marino, Elway, Young, Montana, Favre) and really wasn’t even a shoe in for the HOF first ballot.
Best QB of the Bills ever? Yes.
Best player ever? Maybe, but I think Bruce was better at his position than Kelly was at his.
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Fair enough. But Kelly will always be higher to me for the overall things he did for the team. yes Bruce was arguably the best player at his position ever, but Kelly did a lot more for the Bills then Bruce ever did. To me thats why Kelly is number 1 and Bruce number 2.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 25, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you know a mot who will be in the top ten...
Thurman, Andre, Jim Kelly, Joe D., Billy Shaw, Bruce, and OJ. 6 Hall of Famers and a Hall of Fame Finalist.
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by MattRichWarren on May 24, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
hey, i had a technical question. i posted a fanshot with a couple link about 2 days ago. have u any clue as to why it isn’t there? do they sometimes delete themselves?
if it was a repeat of a previous fanshot then it was probably deleted by a Moderator.....
only because it keeps things from getting cluttered and gives us one central place to discuss instead of 10 smaller discussions on the same topic.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on May 24, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i see. interesting, i don’t think it was. i posted the mike fioro story 14 minutes after it broke. today i saw the same url someone else posted—after i did…thanks!
That would be the only reason it would be deleted...
unless you used profanity in the post.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on May 24, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Rob Johnson . . .
better be somewhere on that list. Hopefully in the Top 10. Best . . . Bill . . . EVER.
by uscBillsGamecock on May 24, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
I highly doubt it. Because if they do, then you’d have to factor in Kelsey somewhere, and K would NEVER do that. :P
by CanadianBillsFan on May 25, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Great idea K
Can’t wait to see the list. Kelly for #1!
by CanadianBillsFan on May 24, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
Steve Tasker, Tom Sestak, Wray Carlton, Ben Williams, Jerry Butler, Doug Flutie
Just a few ideas that people might skip over.
Why on earth would you skip over any of those guys? Tasker was so good on special teams that they created a spot on the pro-bowl for him. Sestak was the Bills early version of Bruce. And don’t even get me started on Flutie! All of those guys deserve to be somewhere in the top 50.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 24, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not speaking for K...
but Flutie’s longevity with the Bills will hurt him in this debate, no doubt.
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by MattRichWarren on May 24, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but if it was me he’d be on there. If K puts him in there I would see it in the 40’s.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 25, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The man had his own cereal, "Flutie Flakes"
He has got to be in the top 30.
"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown
Captain Crunch is number 28.
:-)
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by MattRichWarren on May 25, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
What position did he play?
"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown
Captain.
duh.
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by MattRichWarren on May 25, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
If you can make it work....
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on May 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
We could call him Cap’n Crunch every time he gets a sack…oh, I guess it probably wouldn’t stick then. Not enough usage.
by thefourwinds on May 26, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
ouch.
:-)
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by MattRichWarren on May 26, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
We should just call him Captain Caveman, since we know it’s not real.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I loved that show :-)
"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

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