Which AFC East team had the best off-season?
In an NFL off-season that has been full to the brim with intriguing talking points, the AFC East has been perhaps the most intriguing division to chart. What other division offers Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Bill Parcells, the Wildcat, Terrell Owens, Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez as talking points? Each of the four cities in this division has plenty to discuss, even during this dreaded portion of the NFL calendar.
In 2008 - with the Patriots down their star quarterback - the Miami Dolphins claimed a division title before bowing out in the first round of the playoffs to a Ravens team led in part by Ryan, now the Jets' head coach. The Pats get Brady back and look to re-claim their division crown, while the Jets re-build behind Ryan and his rookie quarterback. Meanwhile, the Bills are making any desperate attempt possible to hop back into the division race after going 0-6 against their three chief rivals last season.
It's been an interesting off-season to say the least, and there's plenty to chew on. Which team had the best off-season? That's for you to decide...
BUFFALO BILLS (2008 record: 7-9, 0-6 AFCE)
Two big story lines: Clearly, the biggest waves in Buffalo came from the off-season signing of WR Terrell Owens. Desperate for any big-play threat offensively, the Bills rolled the dice and inked the controversial receiver to a one-year, $6.5 million deal to play opposite WR Lee Evans and catch passes from still-developing QB Trent Edwards.
Meanwhile, the team made another big splash a week prior to the NFL Draft when it dealt OT Jason Peters to Philadelphia for three draft picks, including a first-rounder this season (eventually used on Louisville OG Eric Wood). Trading the two-time Pro Bowl left tackle left the team with a giant void on Edwards' blind side, and their decision to fill the void with converted RT Langston Walker has raised some eyebrows league-wide.
Two bigger gambles: The Bills made their biggest gamble of the off-season in late December when, despite finishing 7-9 for a third consecutive season, owner Ralph Wilson elected to retain the entirety of his coaching staff, including head coach Dick Jauron. That's the first leap of faith the team took this off-season.
The other gamble was made a year prior, when the team handed the starting quarterback job to Edwards. No matter what happens with the rest of the players the Bills picked up, the onus - for better or worse - will be on Jauron and Edwards in 2009.
Additions (10): QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, RB Dominic Rhodes, WR Terrell Owens, TE Shawn Nelson, OG Eric Wood, OG Andy Levitre, C Geoff Hangartner, DE Aaron Maybin, CB Drayton Florence, S Jairus Byrd
Subtractions (7): QB J.P. Losman, TE Robert Royal, OT Jason Peters, OG Derrick Dockery, C Duke Preston, LB Angelo Crowell, CB Jabari Greer
MIAMI DOLPHINS (2008 record: 11-5, 4-2 AFCE)
Two big story lines: It was a pretty quiet and uneventful off-season in South Florida until the Dolphins brought back DE Jason Taylor after the draft. After a season in Washington, Taylor spurned the Patriots to re-join his old teammates in Miami - even while knowing he'll only be a part-timer. It's unclear how effective Taylor can be in the twilight of his career, even as a situational player, but from a pure PR standpoint, this move was huge in Miami.
The Dolphins are seen as innovators in league circles for initiating the rise of the Wildcat offense in the professional ranks, and the Dolphins fully committed to the move when they selected versatile QB Pat White in the second round of the draft. While Miami's Wildcat was innovative last season, it also got a bit stale and easier to defend as the season wore on. That should change with the ultra-athletic White in the fold.
Two bigger gambles: Miami was the one team in the division that did not make bold moves to try to get significantly better, instead choosing to fortify its secondary (can you blame them with T.O. and Randy Moss in the division?) and tie up some of its own players to long-term deals. The strategy leaves the Dolphins with largely the same division winner they fielded last year - but with Brady returning in New England, will it matter?
The team is also gambling in investing further resources into the Wildcat. Largely credited as the driving force behind the team's surprise run last season, the offense should become easier to defend as more and more teams see the look and implement bits of it into their own offensive philosophies. The addition of White, meanwhile, further muddles the future of the quarterback position in Miami, where Chad Pennington won't last forever and Chad Henne remains the future starter - we think.
Additions (8): QB Pat White, OG Joe Berger, C Jake Grove, DE Jason Taylor, CB Eric Green, CB Vontae Davis, CB Sean Smith, S Gibril Wilson
Subtractions (3): C Samson Satele, CB Andre Goodman, S Renaldo Hill
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (2008 record: 11-5, 4-2 AFCE)
Two big story lines: Hey, did you guys hear that Tom Brady is back? New England's all-world signal caller returns after missing all but a couple quarters' worth of 2008 action with a surgically repaired knee. He's at 100%, and he wants to play until he's 41. In an off-season that saw a considerable amount of change in New England, it's got to be nice to point to Brady (and Belichick) and say "Yeah? Well, we'll still beat you senseless next season."
Clearly, the big change came in January, when Scott Pioli left to join the Chiefs as GM and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels vacated his post to methodically tear apart coach the Denver Broncos. Who here thinks that the latest two defectors will have any effect on New England's on-field performance? Yeah... me neither.
Two bigger gambles: Both of New England's gambles came in one trade when they dealt QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel to Pioli's Chiefs. Cassel had proven to be a valuable commodity, and now the Pats face huge question marks again should Brady go down. Meanwhile, on a defense that hasn't been as good as advertised in a couple of seasons, Vrabel - one of the team's proven playmakers - was mercilessly shipped to one of the league's worst franchises. Those are two heady contributors that the Pats gave away essentially for nothing. Oh, they'll eventually look like geniuses for the move, but until that happens, it's a gamble - particularly in trading away proven insurance for Brady.
Additions (10): RB Fred Taylor, WR Joey Galloway, WR Greg Lewis, WR Brandon Tate, TE Chris Baker, NT Ron Brace, CB Shawn Springs, CB Leigh Bodden, CB Darius Butler, S Patrick Chung
Subtractions (7): QB Matt Cassel, RB LaMont Jordan, FB Heath Evans, WR Jabar Gaffney, LB Mike Vrabel, LB Larry Izzo, CB Ellis Hobbs
NEW YORK JETS (2008 record: 9-7, 4-2 AFCE)
Two big story lines: The Jets made a splash in late January when, after firing head coach Eric Mangini as the scapegoat for their 2008 collapse, the team hired the ridiculously brash Rex Ryan to replace him. Ryan immediately made friends with fans of AFC East division rivals by stating that his Jets would win a Super Bowl and visit President Barack Obama at the White House within a "couple of years". Ladies and gentlemen - the AFC East's brand new Public Enemy No. 1!
Trading two picks and three players for rookie QB Mark Sanchez was a headline-maker, too. After striking out with the Brett Favre Experiment last season, the Jets were facing a QB competition between the venerable Kellen Clemens and the honorable Brett Ratliff prior to the draft. It was a bold move to pick up arguably the Draft's best quarterback - and it could very well pay off. Perhaps not as soon as Jets fans would like, but it could still work.
Two bigger gambles: A clear area of weakness in New York is wide receiver, where Laveranues Coles was released, and the only proven option is the somewhat overrated Jerricho Cotchery. Seriously - if anyone reading this can pump out a 4.7 forty and catches a loaf of bread when your wife throws it to you, the Jets may be interested.
Oh, and you know what? Handing the keys to the franchise to a gunslinger head coach and a rookie quarterback is pretty bold, too - particularly with an unproven and risk-taking GM (Mike Tannenbaum) calling the shots.
Additions (8): QB Mark Sanchez, RB Shonn Greene, DE Marques Douglas, DT Howard Green, LB Bart Scott, CB Lito Sheppard, CB Donald Strickland, S Jim Leonhard
Subtractions (10): QB Brett Favre, WR Laveranues Coles, TE Chris Baker, DE David Bowens, DE Kenyon Coleman, DT C.J. Mosley, LB Eric Barton, CB Hank Poteat, S Abram Elam, K Mike Nugent
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A healthy Tom Brady makes this an easy choice.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 28, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll go ahead and disagree. One player does not an off-season make. The Pats are still the cream of the crop, clearly, but we’re talking about off-seasons here.
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by Brian Galliford on May 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
If you asked, what team is the best going forward after the offseason, then it’d be the Pats, Dolphins/Bills, Jets….Jets gotta be the worst right, and since the Dolphins won the division, and have Parcells (damn him!) in the front office, they sort of trump us
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by killascript on May 28, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I thought they did a very good job of adding value in the draft (Butler, Brace, Chung, Tate), solidified their CB position and added some veterans offensively that will help them now, not down the road. Throw in Brady getting healthy and back in the lineup and I’d have to say that’s the best off-season.
I wish I could vote for the Bills, but I’m not sure how much better we got, if at all. We traded away our best player on the OL, reshuffled the whole thing, lost a pretty good CB and retained the coaching staff. Those aren’t going to help us win more games this year. Our best signing is here for a year and one of our biggest weakness, the pass rush, remains a major question mark. I know you didn’t say anything about the Bills, but I don’t see how anybody could vote for them when compared to NE. Ugh.
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by Kurupt on May 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for NE too.
If we had picked up Tom Brady this year instead of TO people would be calling us the best offseason in the AFC East. They go for above average to exceptional.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see it that way as far as what the article/poll was asking.
Tom Brady was on the team already. I took the article more to what the teams in the AFCE did in respects to cutting and gaining players – in that regard – I think Buffalo wins
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by J2 on May 28, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What team had the best offseason?
From last year to the coming year the Patriots added a Hall of Fame QB, traded his backup for a second round pick, and had a good draft.
We had a really good draft and added a Hall of Fame WR. Edge to the Pats in my book.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats what I don’t agree with.
the HOF QB was already on the team – you just dont’ get it do you?
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by J2 on May 29, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it.
And we can just disagree about it. That’s fine.
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by MattRichWarren on May 29, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question was: “Which team had the best off-season?” not “Which team had the best off-season pickups?”
I agree with MRW here. That’s how I viewed the quesion/article. Eww, I feel dirty.
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by Kurupt on May 29, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then why even have the article?
I mean if Tom Brady or Peyton Manning come back from injuries to their teams why even put an article out like this?
Seems to me like that would be a give in and not the intent of the article because it would render the article useless because he’s a first ballot hall of famer and one of the top 2 QB’s in the league.
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by J2 on May 29, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so instead of saying – which AFCE team had the best season offseason it should be – “Did the Dolphins, Jets or Bills have the best offseason”
when you get back the best player in the league it makes the answer obvious – since over 600 people voted for the Bills and only over 200 for the Pats then what do you think everyone was thinking?
because I sure as hell would have voted for the Pats for getting Tom Brady back without any additional information what so ever. We coudl have gotten Haynesworth and TO traded up and gotten 2 more first rounders and it still wouldn’t matter because Brady is the X factor.
Since its a QB’s league – and we all know how good Brady is – then we know the Pats win.
So why would Brian even put an article out like this if the answer was Tom Brady comes back – Pats obviously win. No one needs a poll for that – no one needs to discuss or even evaluate that because its easier than 1+1.
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by J2 on May 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, calm down J2.
I interpreted the question differently than others. It happens. I didn’t realize that idea would completely devalue Brian’s article!
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 29, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, calm down J2.
lol – I don’t have such luxuries my friend – won’t make it to 50. how it goes in my family – heart disease is great.
anyways – yeah the answer would obviously be the Pats. Best offseason should be cutting players that don’t fit, suck or just get paid too much then filling in your team with pieces that make your team better.
getting Brady back isn’t what I would call a great offseason because the Pats had nothing to do with it. They just sat there and he did his own rehab and his own doctors. So by default they get the greatest offseason because they did nothing at all? Just doens’t make sense.
as far as everything else other than Tom Brady is concerned – we have had easily the best offseason if you ask me.
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by J2 on May 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY!
We’ve agreed a lot recently…. It’s not dirty. Let it happen.
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by MattRichWarren on May 29, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I reluctantly agree with Kurupt (who seems as reluctant to choose the Pats as I am). What impresses me is the way they systematically rebuilt their secondary this offseason — which had been their major weakness last year. Adding Fred Taylor may not seem like much, but he is the perfect RB for their needs and he still has enough left in his tank for another two seasons. All that and they banked a number of high round draft picks for next year.
by Macktruck on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice article... but i have to disagree w/ your two biggest gambles that the bills have made..
i really don’t think retaining dick jauron was a big gamble.. what gamble are we taking by keeping our scheme and familiar faces around the franchise for maybe just one more year?? i don’t think that is a gamble.. i think a gamble would have been canning him and expecting another coach to come in here and do much better than what he’s going to be capable of this year.. after this year if we don’t improve get rid of him..either way i just don’t see that being much of a gamble whether we decided to retain the staff or find someone new either way it’s a decision that has to be made one way or the other…
i somewhat agree w/ you that at the time the decision was made almost a year and a half ago keeping trent in as our starter was a gamble.. but i think it’s worked out as far as comparing him to losman.. he showed more in 6 games than losman showed his entire career… i don’t think that the staff had any other direction to go. they new losman wasn’t the guy and that trent could be.. so that’s the only question i have.. what is the gamble in tihs case.. what other decision could have been made, especially after he gave losman his starting job back only for him to lose it again against jacksonville…to me the decision was cut and dry then.. losmans time was done and trent’s was just beginning…
by Shovel51 on May 28, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with K
Haven’t you always said that this is a QB driven league?
A healthy Tom Brady >>>>>>>>Matt Cassel.
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by sireric on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eve though I voted Bills
I think New England is interchangable with that.
I say Bills because our biggest weaknesses were addressed (interior line, DE, playmaker at WR)
And our biggest loss, Jason Peters, was not playing very good last season.
And I am not sure if Brady counts as an addition.
Another thing is, the Bills kept the suspect Jauron, and that seems like a big deal. But basing of strictly player, or coach additions or subtractions, then that is it…Go Bills
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by killascript on May 28, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Addressing” a weakness isn’t the same as fixing a problem.
Yeah, Owens was a nice one year rental, but Peters and Greer aren’t going to be as easy to replace as people seem to think. Peters sure did have an off-year last season, but they also very, very rarely devoted a tight end or running back to chip his assignment. They’ll probably have to with Walker.
I hate to be pessimistic, but Hangartner, Wood, and Levitre have to prove themselves before I’ll say their o-line is better in the short term. Do we even really need to rehash the mistakes that have been made with this franchise in terms of interior offensive linemen over the last decade? The list isn’t pretty- and to assume that all 3 new interior linemen are going to pan out is probably foolish.
by Make a play Whitner on May 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to be pessimistic, but Hangartner, Wood, and Levitre have to prove themselves before I’ll say their o-line is better in the short term. Do we even really need to rehash the mistakes that have been made with this franchise in terms of interior offensive linemen over the last decade? The list isn’t pretty- and to assume that all 3 new interior linemen are going to pan out is probably foolish.
That is true and I agree, these guys need to prove it. The difference between this time around and the blunders from the past is simple. In the past the Bills turned to journeyman slugs like Tutan Reyes, Bennie Anderson, and Chris Villarrial. Turning to two highly rated rookies who have upside and room to grow and a vet with something to prove seems like a better idea. Is it a sure thing? No. But I think it has a better chance of working.
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by sireric on May 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention that the interior of the line will be better than last year...
Even if they are just OK it’s better than Fowler and Preston. I’d be willing to bank on them being OK at least.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peters and Greer aren’t going to be as easy to replace
Greer was good, but in no way was he great. If there’s any position we have the depth and talent to find a replacement there, it’s at CB. He wasn’t even the best corner on the team. McGee was, except for that Miami game, McGee was money. Sure, Greer had 2 TD’s, but that fluctuates from year to year for every CB.
As far as Peters goes, whoever replaces him might not be as good as he was, that is true. But if replacing makes the offense better because his replacement is a team player, that’s an upgrade. The last thing the Bills needed was another holdout.
by syrbillsfan on May 29, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets-- the worst
I like their Coach, and I like everything about what they did, outside of the draft and that they have no players or playmakers for that reason as far as Im concerned at WR
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on May 28, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, wow… Lots of homers hangin’ around these parts… :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 28, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, i really don’t think the dolphins or patriots got significantly better this offseason (i’m not counting brady because he was already on the team). the jets went either significantly backwards or somewhat forwards. i really, truly, honestly think that the bills had one of the better offseasons in recent memory for them, and it’s definitely better than these other teams..
by the_prophet on May 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well….
I picked the Bills because they got rid of Dock, Losman (huge), Royal and solved the Peters fiasco.
Then then went and got Hangartner and TO. If they would have shored up the LT position we’d be sitting really pretty – but we gots what we gots.
I guess you can say the Pats had a good offseason with springs, taylor and galloway but those guys really don’t do anything for me.
the Phin’s didn’t do much and neither did the Jets (scott/sheppard should be o.k. – but not spectacular).
I think its easy to say that the Bills had the best offseason
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by J2 on May 28, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I picked NE. Coulda picked the Jets. The Bills kept Jauron…soooo based off that, I’ll give them the worst off season. Miami didn’t really do anything. Not good, not bad. The Jets could have had a good off season, but I guess we’ll have to wait to see how Sanchez turns out to really know. So that only leaves NE. They win by default.
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by thatguy34 on May 28, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is tough to say because Sanchez could develop into the guy that easily makes this the Jets. Anytime a team drafts a top 10 QB, they’ve got a shot at having the best offseason in the league. I know a lot of people aren’t as enamored with the Jets defense as I am (and maybe I’m too fantasy football focused with this one), but I think the Jets are going to have a really solid defense this year with the additions of Lito Sheppard and Bart Scott. All that said, until Sanchez shows something, the Jets can’t be in this discussion.
Miami’s offseason wasn’t bad, but it doesn’t do a lot for me. Gibril Wilson was a great signing and they held onto Channing Crowder, Vernon Carey and Yeremiah Bell. But trading Samson Satele for a 6th round pick and signing Jake Grove didn’t make sense to me. They lost Andre Goodman too. I thought WR was Miami’s biggest need and they drafted Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline? Good luck with that Miami fans. I loved the Sean Smith draft pick, but I think he’s a safety so risk/reward pick Vontae Davis better work out for them. I thought they took Pat White too early, have no clue why they still think Justin Smiley is a starter and they didn’t address NT (Jason Ferguson is undersized and 34 years old). Mediocre offseason.
That leaves the Bills and Pats. The Bills had a pretty good draft. I love the TO move, but it’s short term. I thought the Jason Peters trade was the right move and they got solid value. I’m a big Hangartner believer too. But I’m not buying that the Bills had a great offseason. It was solid and I like what we did more than Miami, but I’m going to have to vote for the Pats.
NE played the Matt Cassel Situtaion perfectly and traded away Ellis Hobbs, who I thought was a liability. They made good signings at corner (Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden) to compliment the young guys they already had (Terrance Wheatley, Jonathon Wilhite) and with the drafting of Darius Butler, turned a weakness into a strength. Patrick Chung should team with Brandon Merriweather and James Sanders to make a good secondary. Ron Brace was a great pick with Vince Wilfork a FA after this season. I thought Brandon Tate was a great draft pick too.
by kaisertown on May 28, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, I think the Pats have had the best offseason so far followed up by our Bills
I think Miami comes in third and the Jets get an incomplete at this point as we have no idea what they have in Sanchez yet, but they could realistically looking back on this offseason have had the best one if he turns into a stud.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on May 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a coincidence that Rex Ryan has his mouth open in this picture?
I think not.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most likely in an effort not to be a homer
I looked at every team BUT the Bills. I don’t know if I can accurately judge with them on the table.
That being said, I went with the Dolphins. Why?! they lost the least in terms of impact players, retained the most, and added to a secondary which should benefit the play against Owens, Evans, Moss, Welker, and Cotchery. They also added line help (again), and drafted a player who fits a scheme they want to utilize, and does so perhaps better than anyone not named Michael Vick.
The Pats lose out by losing their insurance policy. There QB position starts and ends with Brady. The Jets have a rookie who’d still be a rookie by most college standards.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Pats lose out by losing their insurance policy. There QB position starts and ends with Brady.
People said that going into last year, too.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People said that going into last year, too.
Cassell had at least way more time than O’Connell does. 6 years for cassell wasn’t it? going on 2 years now for O’Connell – thats a pretty big difference considering that Brady wasn’t there to tutor him because of the injury.
i get what your trying to say – but thats not the whole picture. but then again is it gutierrez or o’connel as the backup?
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by J2 on May 28, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your point.
And it’s certainly valid. I just think that on a team like that with coaches like that they will be solid if unspectacular if Brady were to go down again.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree Brian.....the most obvious/biggest move the Bills made....was actually no move at all.....
and that was keeping Richard around for another year.
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have Jauron in the “bigger gambles” category… “bigger” being the key word there.
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by Brian Galliford on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh.....well maybe I shouldnt skim.......
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and I said Miami........
because….well……Im sick of voting for the Pats………even though I based my vote on a Pat……..Pat White.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you pick that picture of Ryan to make him even more annoying?
Just looking at that photo makes me want to punch him in the mouth like his dad did to Kevin Gilbride.
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by sireric on May 28, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Can we really call Losman, Preston, and Royal “subtractions”? Why no love for Melvin Fowler in the subtractions box? He helped the Bills about as much as the other 3 last year.
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by sireric on May 28, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutting those guys should count as additions. By having ANYONE in those roster spots, the Bills are better for it.
by syrbillsfan on May 29, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I see him, hear him, or hear a quote of his. I don’t think there has ever been a coach I despise more than him. I really dislike Belichek but respect him. Ryan just seems like a loudmouth oaf. Josh McDaniels rubs me the same way.
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by MattRichWarren on May 28, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope thats in a non-sexual way......
Josh McDaniels rubs me the same way.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on May 28, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could explain a lot.
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by sireric on May 28, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surely it's not-sexual.
Both those guys just irritate the living heck out of me.
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by MattRichWarren on May 29, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Different strokes for different foks…
… that’s what she said.
by syrbillsfan on May 29, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a “pedigree” if that means anything in this league. Beyond that though, he reminds me a lot of Gregg Williams, only louder.
by syrbillsfan on May 29, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do the Bills get credite
Brian…
Why do the Bills get credit for all their draft picks (rounds 1-4), yet the other teams only get mentions?
To be fair you need to add:
Dolphins – Patrick Turner, Brian Hartline
Patriots – Sebastian Vollmer, Tyrone McKenzie, Rich Ohrnberger
The homers around here seem to have blinders on too. Whether you think these guys are stars the following had significant roles on the team last year: Royals, Dockery, Crowell, and Greer. Not to mention we lost a Pro-bowl talent in Peters.
First off, let’s be fair, the players we drafted haven’t even played one NFL snap. So let’s just look at the players we added during FA.
Terrel Owens – Pro Bowl quality player (even at his age).
Geoff Hangartner – Could be real good, but let’s not get crazy he is a career backup so far and wasn’t resigned by the Panthers because they were unwilling to offer him a starting spot.
Drayton Florence – downgrade from Greer.
Rhodes et al. – role players, Rhodes with some opportunities based on injuries/suspensions.
Let’s get real, right now I really cannot understand labeling the Bills as having the best offseason because we signed Owens/Hangartner. Remember all the other teams drafted as well!
"It's that time of the year where all teams are involved in making some, to a degree, painful decisions." - Marv Levy
by Jason from OH-IO on May 28, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
typos
Too many Margaritas tonight, sorry… Still celebrating the Mets sweep of the Nats!!!!
"It's that time of the year where all teams are involved in making some, to a degree, painful decisions." - Marv Levy
by Jason from OH-IO on May 28, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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