What to take away from Bills rookie minicamp
The Buffalo Bills wrapped up their 2009 rookie mini-camp yesterday. Chris Brown at BuffaloBills.com has daily wrap-ups of the practice sessions here, here and here. As with any rookie mini-camp, nothing truly substantial came out of it - but there are certainly some interesting discussion points.
Wood at RG, Levitre at LG, both get snaps at center
As expected, first-round pick OG Eric Wood spent the vast majority of his time this weekend playing right guard - though he also was worked in at center as well. Wood is a virtual lock to start at right guard this season, though the Bills are clearly getting him reps at other positions in the event that their full plans along the line don't come to fruition.
Second-round pick OG Andy Levitre also stands a great chance of starting immediately, and he spent most of his time playing left guard. Like Wood, Levitre got some snaps at center, a position he never manned at Oregon State outside of the practice setting.
With these two developments in hand, Buffalo's anticipated re-tooled offensive line will include Levitre at LG and Wood at RG with Langston Walker at LT, Geoff Hangartner at C and Brad Butler at RT.
Maybin asserting himself quickly
DE Aaron Maybin didn't have much competition at defensive end this weekend, but that doesn't mean he wasn't asserting himself as a leader over the weekend:
Bills top pick Aaron Maybin took it upon himself to break the huddle each day of practice and did so again at the close of the camp Sunday encouraging his fellow players to "go get it" if they want it badly enough. But by no means is Maybin looking to rule the roost when he returns in a couple of weeks for voluntary OTAs.
"As a young guy coming in, I’m only 21 years old," said Maybin. "I’m not arrogant enough to think that I’m going to come in and run everything inside out in this entire program. All I want to be able to do is come in and work as hard as I can, be able to get on the field and use my skill set to help this team in any way possible."
Maybin lined up at left defensive end for the majority of the weekend, an indication that he might be seeing a lot of time playing opposite of right end Aaron Schobel this coming season.
Late-rounders fitting in, making plays
Buffalo's three late-round picks - LB Nic Harris, CB Cary Harris and CB Ellis Lankster - raised a few eyebrows, but all three players acquitted themselves nicely over the weekend.
Nic Harris:
Defensively fifth-round pick
Nic Harris had a pass breakup on a play that was going to tight end Travis McCall. Harris shadowed the tight end well in coverage and got his hand in the passing lane to prevent the completion."I’m just trying to make plays," said Harris. "Right now just being an athletic guy, being brought down to the linebacker position. I played a little bit at OU, not necessarily linebacker, but covering receivers and stuff like that. Kind of with the scheme right now it’s an every down linebacker. It’s new, but I’m learning on the curve."
Cary Harris, Lankster:
Sixth-round pick
Cary Harris had a pass defensed in the flat to force an incompletion.Defensively, seventh-round pick
Ellis Lankster has settled in pretty well in terms of coverage assignments in the 7-on-7 setting, which is a good sign knowing he’s coming from a West Virginia defense that wasn’t anything like Buffalo’s."It’s totally different because we had different disguises or different coverages that we’d play," said Lankster. "But I feel I can adapt to it. I feel like I’m fitting in real nicely. I’m learning the defense real fast so I feel like I’m doing a good job."
Fourth-round TE Nelson shines
The one rookie generating more buzz than any other over the weekend was athletic fourth-round TE Shawn Nelson, who drew rave reviews with his hands and speed (though he did reportedly struggle some with false starts in the mid-to-late portions of the three-day camp).
Shawn Nelson was solid in his first day particularly in the receiving game. Blessed with natural hands, Nelson made some difficult catches look effortless and rarely broke stride even when some passes were outside his body frame.
"There are some things that I can do that some tight ends in the NFL can do and there are some things that I can’t do and that’s what I try to work on," said Nelson. "The things I can’t do as well or can’t do at all is what I work on to be a complete tight end."
Plenty of tryout players to be signed?
Buffalo brought in 30 players to camp on a tryout basis over the weekend, and so impressed was the Bills' coaching staff with the group that Chris Brown saw fit to share this nugget:
In fact of the 30 tryout players brought in for the weekend, Jauron believes anywhere from five to 10 players could be signed.
“Sometimes when you have a group tryout it can deteriorate pretty fast and this was really good,” said Jauron. “I think there are some guys in this tryout group that we’ll try to bring back, at least for our OTAs and maybe for training camp.”
That would certainly be intriguing, particularly since the Bills already have a pretty full roster. Might we see some significant changes by the team's May 18 voluntary OTA sessions?
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Still wishing
Philip Hunt was brought in. They must not have seen anything in him.
"It's not delivery, it's DiGiorgio!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on May 4, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions
I like Hunt too but he would deffinatly not fit in our scheme. He’s about 30 pounds too light and deffinatly not strong enough. He is however a perfect fit for a 3-4 system as an OLB.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Loving Maybin more and more every day.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I find myself
as I read about our rookies and analyze this off-season, overly optimistic…..I need to chill out….I can’t set myself up for extreme disappointment.
But i’d be re missed if I didn’t say I love the character that these guys are showing
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
same here
They all exude this intelligent and humble quality but don’t get me wrong, they are FOOTBALL PLAYERS. Guys that love the game and the little things like knocking the snot out of someone, pumping each other up in the huddle and really wanting to be part of a TEAM. Hearing Wood talk about loving getting in fights in the trenches made me a bit giddy.
Now getting excited is inevitable, but as a marker, Donte Whitner was looked at the same way when he was drafted, a play-making leader who lived for football. Maybe he hasn’t been used to the best of his capabilities, but most everyone will agree he’s a big let-down, especially after last pre-season’s quote and then this off-season. Talk does not make up for on-field short comings I hope he has a career year this year, like every year. Hopefully Byrd will help and elevate Whitner’s game. He’s not the first but maybe OBD has wised up.
Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.
by NeverendingOptimism on May 4, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure that the Byrd/whitner comparison is accurate.
From what I had read, and continue to read, Whitner was never a ball hawker. I’ll have to dig up his stats in college, but pretty sure he wasn’t anythning special in the ball hawking department
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on May 4, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He had 3 INT’s in college….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
thanks K – yeah – not exactly in the same league as Byrd – not even close really.
wasn’t that just 2 seasons of starting though? regardless….
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on May 4, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it was just 2 seasons
but it’s still just 3 INT’s
The ESPN game log has him for 7 career passes defended too, with 3 coming in his final game. If those numbers are legit, that’s just as bad!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yeah from what i've read he was just a heck of a worker, watched a lot of film, got everyone lined up, and called the play out many times before the offense ran it.. he was the leader of the defense..
malcom jenkins said he was the best player he has ever played w/, and the things in bold were what he said after he was drafted in an interview.
As far as ball hawking goes, it’s horrible. But Whitner was never a ball hawker, he’s a run stopper and should be played at SS IMO.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 4, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Point well taken
I need to clarify though. Elevate does not mean changing your stripes. Whitner will never ever be a ball hawk. Elevate means giving him the ability to succeed with the talents he has. Leadership, Work Ethic and from what I saw in college, knocking the hell out of people, making sure they think twice about going over the middle or catching that short route. We have enough ball hawkability with McKelvin, McGee, from what I saw of Yobouty last season now Byrd.
I want Donte to have a career year and become the wrecking ball type player we all hoped he’d become, being drafted at #8.
Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.
by NeverendingOptimism on May 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Donte Whitner was looked at the same way when he was drafted, a play-making leader who lived for football
Jus take away play maker from that list and you still have a very good football player. Donté is better then a lot of us give him credit for.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 4, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I’m setting myself up for the same disapointment Marv. But we can’t say that we’re optimistic without reason. I mean look at our draft class, our first 5 picks (Maybin, Wood, Byrd, Levitre and Nelson) should all be starters by then end of the season, And Nic Harris has a good shot at taking about 50% of the snaps at OLB by season’s end too. We have an absolutly TERRIFIC draft class this year. It’s reminissant of the Giants’ 2007 class where they all made the team and became good contributors (although I don’t see the last two CB’s doing much).
by CanadianBillsFan on May 4, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m guessing they’ll sign a QB.
I think that Tyrrell Herbert guy is worth signing too. Apparently he had a good weekend, as well.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Would love to see them sign a QB that has more potential than Hamdan. I don’t know anything about Fitzpatrick, but could his presence in the film room with TE allow them to get rid of Hamdan? Really the only thing Hamdan did last year was help out TE in the film room, because Losman wouldn’t/couldn’t. Is Fitzpatrick at least capable of doing what Hamdan did as well (or hopefully better), so that the Bills can actually get a developmental QB on their roster?
by thefourwinds on May 4, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Cullen Harper who we brought in. He never really put it all together at Clemson, but he has a lot of potential.
from a maryland fan's prespective
that kid is a siren…he will never put it together…had a perfect sitation at clemson…great running game, great defense, relatively weak conference and couldn’t rise to the occassion…not nfl material imo
FWIW...Signing 10 Undrafted FA's wouldn't nec. mean we'd have to cut people
practice squad right?
Hey maybe they’ll impress enoguh so we can cut guys like Simpson (who should be cut just by having drafted Byrd, but you never know), Hamdan and McCargo. I don’t see Costanzo lasting much longer either, unfortunatly.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 4, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would we cut McCargo? We need a 4th DT whether you like him or not! There’s no one else on the roster that’s worthy of a roster spot in place of him at DT.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Didn’t we sign/invite a few undrafted DT’s to the rookie camp? I though we did.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 5, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
but those guys aren’t ones you should expect to make the roster or be a quality backup DT.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
dang. I was hoping that we could get rid of McFlop.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 5, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
dang. I was hoping that we could get rid of McFlop.
don’t say that quite yet – he may surprise this year
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on May 5, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
i spend most of my days flipping between rumblings (where i spend most of the time) and checking buffalobills.com...
i thought they had some really nice reads on their over the weekend, and i’m glad you created an article to add to the discussion. they also had a few nice videos, although i was hoping they would have videos of each day of camp rather than just the first day and then just a short wrap-up video on the last day (but it was definately better than nothing, i’m just trying to get as much of a feel for these guys as possible).
I can’t wait to see these guys in pads, especially the O-line together as a unit and see how it all looks when they start doing some hitting. however, it was still very nice to many positive things out of the camp about our rookies, and i don’t think too many of us are surprised to hear the things we did, but it’s still nice to get that reassurance from guys that are actually there and able to witness these camps take place. as of now it seems like the bills brought in some class acts, but it is way too early to tell at this point.. i hope it translates when the pads go on, and they are lined up against NFL vets.

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