Can Aaron Maybin fix Buffalo's pass rush woes?
Over the past two seasons, the Buffalo Bills - sporting one of the league's most anemic pass rushes - have accrued just 50 sacks. For that reason, the Buffalo Bills spent their first-round draft pick on Penn State DE Aaron Maybin in the 2009 NFL Draft.
We're all aware of what Maybin brings to the table - from both the 'pro' and 'con' departments. Speed, athleticism, a quick brain, loads of untapped potential and inexperience. He's being counted on to provide a shot in the arm for a Bills pass rush that is critical to the team's success this coming season; without consistent pressure, Tom Brady, Chad Pennington and even Mark Sanchez will have all day to pick Buffalo's defense apart. Buffalo was 0-6 against their AFC East foes last season.
How much can be expected of the rookie pass rusher? Judging by the rookie production of defensive ends over the past five years, Maybin's got a difficult trend to buck.
Listed below are every defensive end drafted in the first round over the past five seasons, coupled with their first-year sack production. 20 such players exist; four were drafted per season. The group was split up into the type of defensive scheme they were drafted into; let's face it - ends entering a 3-4 system had a better shot of accumulating larger sack totals based purely on their role within the scheme, and the proof is in the pudding with regard to both personal and average sack totals. Maybin, clearly, would fall into the first (4-3) group - so those numbers are far more relevant in discussing his potential impact this season.
4-3 DE drafted Round 1, 2004-2008
Name, Team - # sacks rookie season
Chris Long, St. Louis - 4
Derrick Harvey, Jacksonville - 3.5
Lawrence Jackson, Seattle - 2
Gaines Adams, Tampa Bay - 6
Jamaal Anderson, Atlanta - 0
Jarvis Moss, Denver - 1
Mario Williams, Houston - 4.5
Tamba Hali, Kansas City - 8
Mathias Kiwanuka, NY Giants - 4
Erasmus James, Minnesota - 4
Will Smith, New Orleans - 7.5
Kenechi Udeze, Minnesota - 5
Jason Babin, Houston - 4
TOTAL - 53.5
AVERAGE - 4
3-4 DE/OLB drafted Round 1, 2004-2008
Name, Team - # sacks rookie season
Vernon Gholston, NY Jets - 0
Lawrence Timmons, Pittsburgh - 0
Anthony Spencer, Dallas - 3
Manny Lawson, San Francisco - 2.5
Kamerion Wimbley, Cleveland - 11
DeMarcus Ware, Dallas - 8
Shawne Merriman, San Diego - 10
TOTAL - 34.5
AVERAGE - 5
It's unclear at this point how Buffalo plans to use Maybin. We do know that he won't be playing linebacker in its traditional sense - he's a defensive lineman, and this is a 4-3. But that doesn't mean that Maybin won't rush from a standing position; it might be the only way to give the thin, raw Maybin a chance to beat tackles with his pure speed as a rookie. He's certainly not going to do it with strength; that's an area that he still needs serious work in.
If you're going by recent history, if Maybin has an average season this coming year, he'll pick up only 4-5 sacks. Clearly, a sack is a poor measure of a consistent pass rush - you can be an effective pass rusher without picking up gobs of sacks - but it's the best metric we've got for this exercise.
There are two ways to look at this. If you're the sarcastic realist, you'll note that the 4 sacks Maybin should get as an average rookie NFL DE would, in fact, put him in contention for the Bills team lead - Buffalo's leading sackers managed just 2.5 each (Kawika Mitchell, Marcus Stroud) in 2008. On the other hand, is 4 sacks going to be enough to significantly shift a team's blocking schemes when facing the Bills?
Maybin has a shot to be an excellent pro. Factors such as an improved offensive attack, playing with leads, and the return to health of Aaron Schobel will play their part as well. But one thing is painfully clear: rookie defensive ends generally do not come in and make big plays as rookies. Buffalo needs Maybin to do exactly that. Make no mistake about it: the Bills are rolling the dice with their selection at No. 11 overall.
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If you’re the sarcastic realist, you’ll note that the 4 sacks Maybin should get as an average rookie NFL DE would, in fact, put him in contention for the Bills team lead
Woulda been my comment exactly. But on a more serious note, if a 21 year old rookie comes in and leads the team in sacks with 4, is there a rule against cutting your entire front 7 on defense? What would be our cap hit?
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by thatguy34 on May 6, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's just cut Kelsay ;-)
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by Jason from OH-IO on May 6, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Versus Right Tackles
My gut says Maybin will have 4-5 sacks this year. But I think you must remember he will be playing agains right tackles (hopefully), as Schobel will line up versus the LTs. Typically the RT is less athletic and more susceptible to athletica and quick DE’s, Maybin clearly falls into this category. Therefore, a RB might need to be kept in to assist if Maybin is able to get past the initial block. All-in-all I beleive Maybin’s impact will be felt significantly on passing downs. He creates problems on the right side, which should help Schobel and if Maybin proves to be an annoyance, teams will have to game plan for him (i.e. RB kept in scenario), this relates to one less receiver to have to deal with.
Even if Maybin out runs the play and moves past the quarterback. the QB will catch him in his peripheral vision and again create a diversion. I actually am buying into the fact that Maybin is exactly what we need to increase our pass rush.
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by Jason from OH-IO on May 6, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he gets 4 sacks and some pressure he will have done his job as a rookie. I’d take that.
by Berg79 on May 6, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would take 4 sacks from him...
considering he will only be playing situationally. I am more concerned with teams having to gameplan for somebody on our defense. If they even have to chip on him or put a RB on his side I would be happy. My hope is that Maybin or Schobel will draw a double team most of the time leaving the other one to actually go one on one and get pressure.
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by MattRichWarren on May 6, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah that would be nice or stroud.. i think that he actually has a better chance of being doubled than either of these two at least at the start of the season..
it seems like for the most part schobel comes of the edge and the LT just takes him up field looping him around the qb, i rarely see schobel take a different approach at the qb..
now if either schobel or maybin can start the season of fast pressuring the qb or hit a hot streak during the season then i think teams will be more apt to double one of them, rather than the big man in the middle.. it will be exciting to see how teams game plan, because one of these 3 will end up being doubled or chipped at the very least
by Shovel51 on May 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be great down the road with added experience and by adding weight
But I predict he does nothing to aid the Bills this season and people will call him a bust by week 10.
He’s going to contribute as much as Hardy did last year.
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by BillsNYC on May 6, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yup Shawn Nelson drafted 3 rounds later will contribute more to this team than Maybin in 2009
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 6, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who is willing to call a player a bust after 10 games
is usually overreacting. I have seen nothing from this kid to lead me to believe that he won’t be an excellent DE. Will he “light it up” this year? Probably not, but to predict now that he is going to be a bust by week 10 ridiculous.
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by Joe P. on May 6, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Hardy caught two TD passes, so if Maybin gets two sacks is that a poor rookie season for a DE?
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by Joe P. on May 6, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For one that is supposed to save/aid the pass rush?
Yes.
The Bills admit they have no pass rush (they didn’t have much of one with Schobel either) and the only move to fix this was Maybin. Hence, the Bills think he is going to fix the problem this year, or are just admitting they won’t have a pass rush.
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by BillsNYC on May 6, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario Williams was called a bust in his first season, but he turned out pretty well – especially compared to the players people were saying they should have taken instead (Reggie Bush, Vince Young).
If you’re going to fix your pass rush, you have to start some time. Better now than never.
by thefourwinds on May 6, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However, JoeP., it wouldn’t surprise me at all to hear people CALLING Maybin a bust this year. Fans often are like that.
by thefourwinds on May 6, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure – but I’m not expecting much until year 3. If it happens before then great – but he’s young and needs to get some strength.
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by J2 on May 6, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. The Bills had so many holes to fill, they need to have a draft like this virtually every year.
by thefourwinds on May 6, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
He doesn’t do anything for the Bills this year…so in essence the Bills did nothing to improve their pass rush for 2009.
So the Tampa 2 without a pass rush…..basically you can kiss the season goodbye.
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by BillsNYC on May 6, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Tampa 2 that even last year was not the biggest reason for most of the Bills’ losses. This year the Tampa 2 could actually be playing with an offense that puts up points.
by thefourwinds on May 6, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say “he doesn’t do anything for the Bills this year” until he has not, in fact, done anything. Let the games play…
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly – how can we have any idea what he’s goign to do if we haven’t even seen him in the preseason?
Even after the fact – he’s 21 so he needs time to adjust and build his strength and the point of attack. He’ll need some time – so let’s give him that.
I love how we’re trying to predict his sack totals when we haven’t seen him against NFL competition yet – kind of amusing
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by J2 on May 6, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how we’re trying to predict his sack totals when we haven’t seen him against NFL competition yet – kind of amusing
Yeah, that’s really not why I posted this, either. I think trends are applicable in certain situations, but this was never meant to be a “guess how many sacks Maybin will have” or “guess how many sacks Maybin will help the Bills get as a team” exercise. It wasn’t meant to focus on stats. The stats were presented to give an idea of the type of impact we could be talking about.
That’s why I brought up the other points – to state precisely that Maybin alone should NOT be expected to “save” the pass rush. It’s absurd for one individual, especially a rookie, to immediately boost a pass rush. He can help – but he doesn’t solve the problem. That’s what I was trying to point out – I was trying to lower expectations.
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol – I wasn’t talking about your article Brian – I saw numerous comments with sack totals – just made me laugh.
I got what your article meant and I agree with it 100% – because its the truth. I was referring to the comments…
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by J2 on May 6, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it shouldn’t make you laugh… I was just saying that those projections were not my intent.
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotcha – i think he’s going to have 22 sacks and break the NFL record this year – should be fun to watch!
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by J2 on May 6, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just remember how everybody thought Hardy was going to solve all the Bills passing problems last year and puts heaps of expectations on him.
In the end it was the Bills fault, instead of bringing in a big veteran receiver to temporarily fill the hole (like this year) and let him learn the position they hung Hardy out there to dry and never tried to temper those expectations. The Bills get an F for how they handled him.
They’re doing the exact same thing with Maybin, they needed to bring in some competition somewhere on the line and they didn’t, and instead are throwing it all on his shoulders and the fans expectations are that he’s going to be a sack machine. Not saying he won’t next year but the odds are clearly against him.
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by BillsNYC on May 6, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re doing the exact same thing with Maybin, they needed to bring in some competition somewhere on the line and they didn’t, and instead are throwing it all on his shoulders and the fans expectations are that he’s going to be a sack machine. Not saying he won’t next year but the odds are clearly against him.
Which, again, is exactly why I wrote this article in the first place. :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bills won't get an F for how they handle(d) Hardy yet.
The Bills never said he was going to get a lot of PT or a lot of catches. The fans did. They didn’t throw Hardy into the fire when he wasn’t ready. I think the coaches have done a good job with Hardy so far because they haven’t put him in a situation to fail. Maybe the fans have but the coaches haven’t.
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by MattRichWarren on May 6, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i wouldn't see that our defense as a whole last year was the reason we lost most of the games we did.. it was our offense
our defense didnt fair too badly last year at all.. so even if he can add just a little pressure, schobel stay healthy and w/ the added experience across the board our defense shouldn’t be any worse than last year..
by Shovel51 on May 6, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I’m saying…people will call him a bust, not that he’ll be one. Just like Hardy is a “bust” according to many.
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by BillsNYC on May 6, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right, I think unless Maybin puts up Dwight Freeney type number, fans are going to call him a bust. But then again most fans can be idiots (myself included), so lets try and not be that short sighted with Maybin because I do think that he will become a star in this league.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 6, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benefit of the doubt
I actually think that most of us, even though I agree we are idiots, have realistic expectations for Maybin.
By realistic, I think we expect Maybin to contribute on passing downs (3rd and long) only. I think we expect that he will be able to use his god-given athleticism to get to (or at least close to the quarterback). I think we all assume, for whatever reason (size, experience, technique, etc.) that Maybin will be a below-average tacker. Obviously he won’t be the GREAT tackler Kelsay is :-)
If Maybin can do that, I think most of us idiots will be happy.
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by Jason from OH-IO on May 6, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Realistic expectations
For one that is supposed to save/aid the pass rush
If people are expecting Maybin to save the pass rush, they will most likely be disappointed. There is every indication that Maybin will aid the pass rush. I believe Mayin is currently the Bills 2nd best pass rusher….yes even though he hasn’t played a down yet….sad, I know, but true. Maybin’s speed alone should allow him to get in the backfield and get some pressures alone with a few sacks. Maybin will also take some pressure off a health Schobel (fingers crossed). Maybin will have a bigger effect than Hardy did, unless he misses games due to injury.
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by Joe P. on May 6, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to factor in qb pressures as well.. not just sacks
did some of you guys even read the part of the post and see how many sacks previous de’s had that were drafted in the 1st round
by Shovel51 on May 6, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he will definatley contribute more than hardy, he's not at as deep of a position, and they will basically have no choice but to keep giving him opportunities on passing downs..
i mean what will it hurt we have no one else who can rush the passer consistantly.. so he will get many more chances to be on the field than hardy did last year..
by Shovel51 on May 6, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well just cause...
The WR position wasn’t exactly the deep end of the pool last year. Evans and Reed were the only two guys in the passing game.
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by MattRichWarren on May 6, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the incumbent is Chris Kelsay, the bar is set high for someone inexperienced to attain “bust” status.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we can agree that Maybin will not live up to the excessivly high expectations we have of him, but neither will he have to endure the wrath that Kelsey receives! ;-)
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by gregeng on May 6, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not. And I’m not sure he’ll fix them next year either just because we need a lot of help. He’ll be the only threat next season, and may be the only one this year too. That’s why I wanted Brown in round 2 as well, as we needed more than just one pass rusher for this team.
As much as I think Maybin will help, he still is unlikely to get any more than 5 sacks or so, so he won’t be fixing anything unless he surprises everyone….
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by Kurupt on May 6, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brown
How would we have used Brown this year? as an OLB?
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by Jason from OH-IO on May 6, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Important factors to consider
a) He will be a situational pass rusher which means:
- He will be fresh and very hungry when given a chance
- He will be opposite a guy that can get the job done when healthy
b) I think he will really help improve the efficiency of Schobel, teams will have to choose which side to double team. But now when both Aaron’s are in the game the outside rush will be a lot harder to contain. We might actually see the middle crumble as a result.
c) I know he will not play OLB but in 3rd and long situations I definitely see him lined up wide standing up, in order to give him a chance to get to the passer without being engulfed by the big RTs
I see him getting 5-7 sacks this year and his presence will help Schobel put up 10-13 sacks (if he stays healthy, which is a big if).
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by keysh67 on May 6, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those numbers are both wayyyyy too high.
I see him getting 5-7 sacks this year and his presence will help Schobel put up 10-13 sacks
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by MattRichWarren on May 6, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way?
I don’t necessarily agree, but on his lower end 5 sacks for Maybin, 10 sacks for Schoble don’t seem unreasonable?
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by Jason from OH-IO on May 6, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im inclined to be more confident than others that Maybin will have a significant impact
and improve our pass rush, regardless of sack totals, which should still be closer to 6 than 3. Here’s why:
Maybin has more in common with the 3-4 rookie types than the usual 4-3 guys. Maybin’s too quick, his first step is going to give tackles problems, enough so that the QB will have to adjust when he feels the pressure. I agree with Jason from OH-IO that Maybin going up against RTs will help. Also, let’s remember that Maybin’s first step is going to be even more dangerous because our secondary is good enough to force QBs to hold onto the ball longer than they would against most defenses.
I know its pretty popular are here over the last two offseasons to say that a pass rush makes a secondary better but it does work the other way around as well. If QBs do try to rush their throws against us you can get that Leodis McKelvin will be taking more than one the other way and we know hes a threat to go for 6. So that should buy Maybin more time or at least cause a few INTs.
Finally, as you said rookie defensive ends dont often contribute so the first year is not a fair gauge of their ability to be a pass rusher. In this light I expect Chris Ellis to add 4-7 sacks this year as well. Between the two of them we should get around a 10 sack bump, add a healthy Schobel, and a motivated one, and I’d add 4 more to that.
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by poz on May 6, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To be nitpicky, Lawrence Timmons doesn’t belong on that list. He played OLB at Florida St. and isn’t a great pass rusher. I think he’s actually going to start inside in place of Larry Foote. Jarvis Moss broke his leg and a healthy rookie season from Mario Williams would have landed him with twice as many sacks.
I wouldn’t expect more than 4-5 sacks from Maybin depending on how much Buffalo uses him and the kinds of 4th quarters Buffalo plays. Some early leads could result in a really good season from Maybin. I don’t think he necessarily needs sacks to make a big impact eiter. If Buffalo can just put him on the field at LE on obvious pass downs with a healthy Schobel on the right side and leave 7 guys in coverage as result, Buffalo could get some extra turnovers that way too.
by kaisertown on May 6, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang. You’re right about Timmons… could have sworn I remembered him playing DE. My bad!
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you thinking of LaMarr Woodley?
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 6, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, no, I just thought Timmons played DE at FSU.
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luol?
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was friggin hilarious
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by poz on May 6, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to make that point too
I think a lot depends on the games. If our offense improves, this should help sack totals. This might be artificial, but as teams are required to play “catch-up” they will be passing more, therefore more opportunities for sacks. Kind of a chicken/egg discussion.
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by Jason from OH-IO on May 6, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
know one can really predict the impact maybin will have.. but i do know one thing.. having him can only improve us, it definately can't hurt
by Shovel51 on May 6, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jeveon kearse came in to the league and wrecked havoc as a rookie…perhaps, he was an exception.
by chaucer on May 6, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thin Maybin will do better then just the 4 sack average
Simple reason for that is also the biggest thing he brings to the table : Speed.
if you look at the list of 4-3 rushers, you don’t have many speed rusher, and none as good as Maybin. Most speed rushers now are 3-4 OLB’s. I think Maybin’s number’s will be closer to Ware’s and Merriman’s numbers then the DE’s on the 4-3 list.
Does that mean that he’ll get 10 sacks? I don’t think so. But I don’t think that 6 to 8 sacks are out of the question either.
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