Ten Bills facing high-pressure 2009 seasons
Invariably, when any NFL front office and coaching regime finishes out of the playoffs and below .500 for three consecutive seasons, players and coaches will be under pressure to produce. The Buffalo Bills have ended each of their past three seasons with 7-9 records; unless the Bills - who have made bold moves this off-season to get better - approach playoff level, heads will roll in Orchard Park next January.
Plenty of the organization's members are facing high-pressure, do-or-die situations next season. Which ten have the most to lose? These guys.
10. MLB Paul Posluszny
Buffalo's defense needs to improve in 2009 - and as the de facto "quarterback" of the defense, Posluszny's responsibilities are of critical importance. Folks are quick to forget that he was starting his first full season at middle linebacker last year; that's not an easy task, yet Poz lead the team in tackles and was a hair away from making big plays on several occasions. If he picks up that extra half-step that only experience can provide, Paul should be ready to have a break-out season. The Bills could use it.
9. DE Aaron Schobel
The two-time Pro Bowl player has just seven sacks and one serious foot injury in the past two seasons. He's got some help in the form of first-round pick Aaron Maybin in the pass rushing department; now Schobel needs to go out and prove that he's not over the hill and can still rush consistently and effectively.
8. FS Jairus Byrd
If there's one thing the Bills' defennse needs outside of a better pass rush, it's a playmaker in the back seven. Remain skeptical all you want, but making plays is precisely what Jairus Byrd did in bunches at Oregon, and that's why he was brought in to Buffalo. The Bills are counting on him to contribute and produce as a rookie far more than folks realize.
7. WR Terrell Owens
He'll probably only be in Buffalo for one season, but with a lot to prove and as the centerpiece addition for a team taking a last-gasp shot at playoff contention, Owens has a lot riding on his shoulders. He, too, is out to prove that he's not suffering through a decline at age 35. He is the key to fielding a potent offensive attack this season - can he still produce at the level that turned him into a superstar?
6. SS Donte Whitner
It's been a weird off-season for Buffalo's defensive captain. Once viewed as the cornerstone piece of the Bills' defense, Whitner is now seen as an above-average starter that needs players around him to excel. With two years left on his contract, Whitner is playing to win, to preserve his leadership role, to make fans forget about his off-season arrest, and to seal a long-term extension.
5. C Geoff Hangartner
You might be hard-pressed to find a free agent addition on any team that faces a more daunting challenge this coming season than Buffalo's new center. Simply put, Buffalo has to... you know... win more than zero divisional games this season. They're not going to do that unless they can display some semblance of control on the line of scrimmage against the division's top-flight nose tackles. That's why Hangartner's here. He's got a large task (or several) ahead of him.
4. LT Langston Walker
Jason Peters is now an Eagle, and the Bills are rolling the dice by moving the massive Walker to the left side, a position he has rarely played in his career. Now the blind-side protector for a quarterback that has not yet been able to shake the "fragile" label, Walker will be facing perhaps the most brutal list of pass rushers one could possibly fathom next season. Get rid of that ball quickly, Mr. Edwards.
3. DE Aaron Maybin
Let's be blunt - Buffalo's pass rush has sucked for a while now, even with Schobel making two Pro Bowl trips. Maybin is by leaps and bounds the most talented pass rushing threat the team has employed in recent memory. Though he's incredibly inexperienced - even by college standards - the ultra-talented and well-spoken Maybin will be counted on to provide a pass rush and big plays in a division filled with outstanding quarterback talent.
2. Dick Jauron and the coaching staff
Obviously. Three straight 7-9 seasons have turned Jauron into the single most polarizing figure on the Buffalo sports scene. Not only does he need to turn this outfit into a playoff club, he needs to get off to a fast start - anything else and the fan base will turn on him faster than a Roscoe Parrish juke.
1. QB Trent Edwards
Shouldering the hopes and dreams of literally everyone else on this list, plus the rest of his teammates, the organization and the fan base, is Buffalo's third-year signal caller. I do not envy anything about Trent Edwards' job other than the outstanding pay and, you know, the whole playing in the NFL thing. The single most pressing issue facing this team is whether or not Edwards can be "the guy" that restores credibility and a winning culture to the locker room and on the field. In a quarterback's league, the Bills will sink or swim with No. 5.
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So was Nelson at 11?
After you threw down and said he’s going to be on the field and contribute a ton? I still think you’re “Hardying” him.
Wait a second…Hardy…Wood…Levitre….ha, list just keeps on going.
I actually don’t think any rookie should be on this list, the veterans need to step up, the rookies should be helping out while they learn the NFL game.
I don’t think Maybin should be that high, Walker should be at three because the front office is trusting that he can protect Edwards blind side who happens to be your number one.
Coaches should be 1a…no field goal situations like in the season finale.
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by BillsNYC on May 9, 2009 6:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Nelson was 11. Literally. I had him at 10, but I bumped him off the list when I decided to make this not all players.
I still think you’re "Hardying" him.
Not sure why that would preclude him from this list. Did the Bills not need Hardy to be the #2 receiver last year? Did his lack of production not severely cramp the offense’s ability to… do anything? Hardy would have been on this list last year, and with good reason.
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by Brian Galliford on May 9, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bills needed a big EXPERIENCED #2 last year and they put a raw rookie in that spot which was a mistake. Its rare that rookie WRs have an impact and the Bills gambled by expecting huge things from Hardy, and they lost big time. They learned from that mistake and brought in TO, but are repeating it with Nelson. With Nelson the expectations shouldn’t be so high, everybody forgets that he’s a 4th rounder and lasted that long for reasons, not to mention he’s a rookie. Expecting him to come in and be a huge part of the offense will likely leave people unfairly calling him a bust by midseason.
And with that, I am off to Babies R Us to look at strollers and bouncer seats….big time stuff. You’re all jealous.
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by BillsNYC on May 9, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They aren't repeating it with Nelson.
We have a TE in place who will be at least adequate in that role. We aren’t going to lose anything with Fine in there but we could gain a lot with Nelson in there.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. If the Bills coaching staff has any inteligence at all (which I’ll agree is sometimes questionable) then Fine will be the starter and progressively give Nelson more responsibility.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 9, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually don’t think any rookie should be on this list, the veterans need to step up, the rookies should be helping out while they learn the NFL game.
I also don’t understand this argument. This might be applicable to a good team like New England that has the pieces in place to get by if one or all of their rookie class falters. The Bills are not the Patriots. They’re not good enough to get by without serious contributions from their rookies.
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by Brian Galliford on May 9, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because that’s not the rookie’s fault, that’s caused by poor coaching/front office moves. Why should more be expected of a rookie going to a bad team as opposed to one going to a good team? Why should Wood be held to a higher rookie standard because John Guy can’t evaluate Guard talent?
If you need rookies to fill several positions and produce right away, then that just shows poor team management. Remember early last year when we were winning and much wasn’t needed from the rookies, and the Bills were credited for this already having the talent in place? That’s the way it should be.
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by BillsNYC on May 9, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every team has expectatiosn for rookies...
Jerod Mayo was defensive rookie of the year on a very good Patriots team. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco had immense pressure on them and performed. Why is it so bad for a team to expect good things from their rookies? Nobody would ever call the Ravens poorly managed but they needed help from a rookie at the most important position on the field.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookies are under pressure, but not to the degree some of the vets should be
If a rookie doesn’t produce….well….we all know the excuses reasons we use to justify it. IMO, all rookies go to the bottom of the list.
9 & 10 – Maybin and Byrd – Sure staring rookies feel pressure. We may want our first day draftees to come in and make a big impact, but let’s face it, they will get another chance next season.
8. Walker – Worst case, he get moved back to RT where he belongs. Yeaaaaaaaah!.
7. Hangman – Worst case, he gets moved to Guard. Yawn!
6. Poz – Worst case, he gets moved outside. Yaaaawn!
5 & 4. Whitner & Schobel – They are one bad season from seeing their replacements drafted (has that happened already?) and being traded/released.
3. Trent Edwards – He may be feeling the heat to show he can be the starter in Buffalo, but he has shown enough that another team would give him a chance to compete for a starting job. At worst, he would be a great backup for any team.
2. Terrell Owens – This could also be his last dance. Not only does he have to prove he can still produce, but that he can be a good teammate and keep his mouth relatively shut.
1. Jauron and Co. – Their jobs are on the line (I hope). Can’t get much more pressure than that.
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your rationale
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by moncheri on May 9, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your list more than Brian’s. Take McKelvin as an example of a rookie who hardly contributed on more than Special teams and nobody had a problem with that. People were dissapointed with Hardy, but I think that had more to do with lost he looked and not that he didn’t excel. I think a 30 catch season out of Hardy would have excited people more than dissapointed them.
The only things that I disagree with are that Poz shouldn’t feel all that much pressure. He had a solid year last year and will never live up to the crazy expectations that fans had when he was drafted. I think one thing to consider when talking about who is feeling pressure this year is what players could be out the door if this team fails and new coaches are brought in. Poz isn’t a guy who should be remotely worried about that. He fits into every kind of defense and is a low salary guy. I’m not even sure I would put Poz on the list.
The same reasons why I don’t think Poz should be feeling any pressure are the very same reasons why Schobel should be feeling the heat. I’m not sure why Brian had him so low and he deserves to be at least as high as you have him.
Walker should be feeling pressure because his success or failure will go a long way towards the team’s success or failure. I would bump him up a little even though you can’t blame him if things go wrong at his position.
Good call on having DJ at number one. His head coaching career is over if this team dissapoints, but Trent is bound to get another opportunity somewhere and given his contract, he’s probably the starter in Buffalo next year even if Jauron goes.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was much more disappointed in how Hardy looked out there, which I thought was quite terrible. Slow, struggled to get in and out of routes, off the line and catching the ball. I did not like his play at all. His production was poor, but I wasn’t expecting a whole lot.
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by Kurupt on May 9, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because of your avatar I have somehow put together in my mind that you look like Kelsay and everything you say I picture him saying….
sorry about that.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say what?!?!?!
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by Kurupt on May 10, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random,
but I think the same way, MRW!!
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by the Uncommon Denominator on May 10, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Matt,
What do you think I look like :-)
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by Joe P. on May 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You joe?
Well I don’t think of you as a hot chick.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Trent should feel so confident.
Yeah he may not get cut because he has a good contract but like someone else said he could be headed for Holcomb-ville if he doesn’t take the next step.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I would have Trent firmly at number 2 on this list. I was just arguing for DJ to be number one instead of Trent.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I put T.O. at #2
because if he blows up again, I think he could have trouble finding another team willing to take a chance on him. Edwards would get another chance.
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could be headed for Holcomb-ville if he doesn’t take the next step
Well, you may be right, but I would take Trent over Holcomb any day.
by thefourwinds on May 11, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Kaiser
about Schobel. He should be very high on this list.
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by poz on May 9, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks kaisertown.....and good point about Poz
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you and I have different viewpoints on the term “pressure”.
Yours looks more like pressure related to keeping jobs, staying on the field, proving yourself.
My definition was more toward pressure to make the Bills playoff contenders next season.
To each their own. :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 9, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense. Although, I still think Schobel is too low. He is really going to be counted on and there are plenty of questions that he needs to answer. This defense looks very different with Schobel getting 10 sacks vs. Schobel on IR. I think I’d have TO a little higher too just because the new acquisitions are always what the fans expect to make the difference. If this team goes 10-6 and TO is good (doesn’t even have to be great) he will get a disproportionate amount of the credit.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see your point,
but it is all related, isn’t it? If the Bills make the playoffs that means they are winning games. For the Bills to be winning games, Schobel needs to get pressure on the QB, Edwards needs to get the ball out quickly and stay injury free, Jauron and Co. need to do a good job preparing the team and making good game time decisions, etc.
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do u think we will make the playoffs next season? last season i was certain we would, even before our 4-0 start. this year, i am pumped up as well, and feel we’ve gotten better, at least on paper, but gosh, that schedule looks really tough. i’m not so certain this year. if i had to make a prediction, i would say 6-10. =( here’s to hoping i’m wrong again, and the boys end the drought.
by chaucer on May 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re looking at this mostly the same way. I’m not saying that the front office should get a pass because they put a rookie receiver in a must-produce spot as a rookie. That wasn’t my intent at all. But that doesn’t mean the team didn’t need him to produce. I’m not looking to place any blame on Hardy at all! I’m just saying that he had a lot on his shoulders last year. I think that’s pretty undeniable.
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by Brian Galliford on May 9, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was never asked to be the guy in Buffalo last year though.
He was never more than a number 3 WR here. Josh Reed may not have been a great number 2 but he wasn’t demoted to make more playing time for Hardy. I think they knew what they were getting in Hardy and it was going to take him some time. I don’t think they put too much pressure on him.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about that. To me, it looked like Hardy was given every opportunity to win the starting job in training camp and was forced into action early in the season. It isn’t a coincidence that almost all of Hardy’s playing time came in the first couple of games. Buffalo put him on the field early and he played his way onto the bench.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was given every opportunity...
sure. But that doesn’t mean he was the only option. I think of pressure as being the only option. When Hardy didn’t perform they didn’t keep him on the field to take his lumps and destroy his confidence and career. They took him off the field and worked him in sporadically. That was the best course of action when it didn’t just click for him day one. I am in the camp that says this injury is the best thing that could happen to him, if just to simply lower expectations and get him into the film room.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of all of this list the only one that I don’t see reaching the pressure potential in Walker. I think that he’ll do a commendable job, but not a good enough one to not be replaced by Bell come the bye week.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 9, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see the weight that Walker comes into training camp. That’ll be the marker for me whether or not he can last. His portliness needs to be down to at least 330 to be somewhat effective. I’d love to see him at 320-325. that’s kind of tough for a dude that big to drop 40 lbs in the off season.
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by NeverendingOptimism on May 9, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we are still ASSUMING Walker will be LT.
I havent seen a depth chart with him at LT for sure. yet.
by BuffaloChip on May 9, 2009 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean like the official Bills team depth chart, which lists Langston as the left tackle? :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 9, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson is 3rd string huh? Guess he needs to earn his spot.
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by BillsNYC on May 9, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a really long link.
:-)
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this is the official Buffalo Bills depth chart then we need to be alot more worried than anyone on here is. In fact i would say we need to be very scared about next season.
Duke Preston is listed as reserve long snapper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by gregeng on May 9, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now this is his best position but if no one at OBD has noticed that his contract has expired and he has signed for another team something is very wrong
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by gregeng on May 9, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is shouman first on the TE’s list? is he, really?
by chaucer on May 9, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the linebacker we brought from KC isn’t on there…
by chaucer on May 9, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there is no depth at RG, C, or LG.
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by the Uncommon Denominator on May 10, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
if Langston Walker plays really really well at LT this coming season, does he hold out for a bigger (LT-level) contract?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 9, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's already our highest paid Offensive Lineman.
He doesn’t have anything to be upset about.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not expecting a Peters situation, but that fact that he makes more than 2 players on rookie contracts, a guard who extended early in his rookie contract and a former reserve interior OL from another team shouldn’t be a factor in whether he wants an extension/increase.
Walker’s peers are going to be LTs who are beyond their rookie contracts, not his teammates.
by Pistol on May 9, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason Peters was so bent out of shape was Walker and Dock were making more than him.
He was the most important so wanted to be paid like it.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called that too… I thought he might get bent out of shape over that, and really don’t blame him for doing so.
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by sireric on May 9, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
You have been on his case a lot but you realize the situation that led to his behavior wasn’t his fault.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction…he didn’t want to just get paid more than DOckery and Walker, he wanted to be the HIGHEST PAID OT in the league. That’s a big difference, and that IS Peters’ fault.
by thefourwinds on May 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well his initial resentment two years ago was with Dock and Walker’s contracts. I’m not saying he acted smartly. I’m saying he had a right to be upset he was the third-highest paid guy on his line when he was clearly the best player.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peters happily signed his contract. I don't give a flying fart what the others signed for.
Suck it up and wait your turn…..or apparently option B is act like a total A-hole, douchebag and get everything you want :-(
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can be resentful.
How he handled it is another matter. If you are the best guy at your job in your company and other people get paid more you might resent them. I’m not saying don’t show up to work like Peters did. That’s now what I would do. I would do my best job and get a raise. Sometimes you just have to wait your turn and he didn’t. His resentment was at least understandable.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
resentful woud be understandable
Peters “went so far past that line that he couldn’t even see the line anymore…..the line is a dot to Peters”.
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LW has shown himself to always be a team player so I highly doubt that he would hold out. It jus doesn’t seem to be in his character to me.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 9, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think this is a very good list. I would have Maybin further down the list, though. The OL needs to produce big time and keep Trent upright and give our RBs holes so I put Walker and Hangman higher.
Let’s hope these guys are like diamonds…. they start out as coal but with some time and high pressure turn into some stuff worth a lot more.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I might call this list the biggest variables for the upcoming season.
All the players should feel pressure to perform. I’m not sure why the players on this list should feel more pressure, or have more to lose, than Mitchell, Evans, McGee, Stroud, etc..
by Pistol on May 9, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree…everyone on every sports club is under pressure to perform. However, there are some players that are in situations where a failure in the short term will be devastating to the team AND their careers.
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by NJBill on May 9, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone is missing from this list
Lee Evans just got a big time new contract. The kind of contract that you give a number 1 receiver. Having reached 80+ catches just ONCE in his career, Evans officially no longer has the “sucky QB” and “no #2 receiver” excuses. I’ve been his biggest defender throughout his career but this season is put up or shut up for Evans.
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by poz on May 9, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans does need to have a big year. With Owens on the team it’s going to be interesting to see how productive each guy is. Owens is pretty similar to Moulds as a receiver type(with worse hands but more speed and agility). If Owens contributes as a possession receiver mostly, and Evans as a big play maker, the Bills will have a good offense. If Evans catches 65 balls but scores 10 or more touchdowns, I’ll call it a productive year for him. I just want to see him make about 25-30 catches of at least 20 yards or more with about 10 scores and I’ll be very happy. When Evans’ YPC is up, things are good. When he’s not catching the ball downfield, not so good.
It's just a game.
by jj24 on May 9, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moulds is the most underrated receiver of the last decade and a half by the way
And you are right, I stand corrected. I’ll take touchdowns as a better indicator than catches for Evans. Lee has to finally break double digit touchdowns
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by poz on May 9, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 TDs is a pretty lofty goal. Guys like Evans never catch double digit TDs, especially if they play on a team that will run as often as Buffalo and will throw as many short passes as Buffalo. Andre Johnson has never had more than 8 TDs. Steve Smith has never caught 10. Roddy White had a career high with 7 last season, so did Laveraneus Coles. I’m not sure how Evans could score 10 TDs next year and that shouldn’t be a problem.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no way Evans scores 10 TD’s
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by Kurupt on May 9, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been capable.
Year Team G Rec Yds AVG Lng TD
2004 Bills 16 48 843 17.5 69 9
2005 Bills 16 48 743 15.4 65 7
2006 Bills 16 82 1292 15.7 83 8
I wouldn’t say no way. It’s not unrealistic. Unlikely,……..sure. We’ll see.
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by jj24 on May 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly prefer Edwards to Losman...
… but Losman and the previous offense braintrust were good for Lee Evans. A lot more balls thrown downfield, and Lee was the favorite target.
by Gino Parilli on May 9, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
We’ll see who excels or cracks from the pressure. While everyone an NFL team is under scrutiny, I agree that certain players are in situations critical to their careers as well as the team. My top five would be:
- Dick Jauron/Turk Schonert: Anything less than a winning season means positional coaching and demotions for these two, if they’re lucky.
- Trent Edwards: It’s the Kelly Holcomb career path for him if he can’t carry the load.
- Donte Whitner: Forget playing like a #8 pick, he needs to play like a first day pick. No more guarantees, just make a damn play!
- Paul Posluszny: Much was expected and now is the time for him to deliver.
- Aaron Schobel: The wrong side of 30, a tad underweight and coming off a serious injury, Schobel needs to prove that he’s still a legitimate starter in this league (and not just for the Bills).
Regarding the rookies…I agree with the folks above in that no rookie should be on the make or break list. However, those rookies who are being asked to contribute immediately are, in order, Wood, Levitre, Maybin. Maybin needs to show that he’s not an Eric Flowers, but this year his role will be situational. I don’t expect much from Maybin this year, but when he’s on the field he will be much more effective on the rush than Kelsay/Denny…not exactly a high bar. Byrd is being groomed for the safety spot, but I wouldn’t expect him to start right away, let alone make an impact (BTW, I hope I’m wrong on this one for obvious reasons).
Other players with high expectations or a lot of responsibility for the success of the season include:
- Leodis McKelvin: needs to continue to grow and confirm that he’s a reliable starting corner.
- Langston Walker: gets a pass playing out of position, but the whole strategy for the line falls apart if he falters.
- Brad Butler: see Langston Walker above, except that Chambers (possibly the mysterious Bell) enters the starting mix.
- Terrell Owens: He’ll get another gig if things don’t work out here, but he’s a guy with a lot to prove..especially in game 1 of the regular season. If he gets injured the whole complexion of the receiving corps goes retro to 2007/2008.
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
by NJBill on May 9, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont get this
Why is everyone on Poz like he has something to prove?
Paul Posluszny: Much was expected and now is the time for him to deliver.
Much was expected, yea, but hes played ONE season. He is definitely under less pressure than Lee Evans. Not only that, I’d go so far as to say that Poz is the player on defense with the LEAST to prove.
Whitner: enough said
McKelvin: can he handle a full time role?
Scott: Can he keep his starting job over Byrd?
McGee: Over the hill?
Mitchell: not much to prove but more than Poz, way to many missed tackles last season
Ellison: enough said
Maybin/Kelsay: just get pressure!
Schobel: bounce back needed
Stroud: needs to keep playing tough, prove hes not aging rapidly
Williams: not much to prove but fans are clamoring for a new DT, prove he can be that DT
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
by poz on May 9, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps we were unfairly projecting our hopes on Poz. Realizing the expectation that he will anchor the Bills line backing corps for many years begins this year. If the criteria is impact to the team and impact to ones career, from an objective standpoint, Poz should fall off the list—but not in the hearts of many fans.
Regarding Lee Evans: Owens will take the pressure off Evans…big contract extension or not. McGee is an interesting case…if he falters, he could be done as a starter in the NFL.
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
by NJBill on May 9, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe your right
in the hearts of fans, maybe Poz does have a lot to prove. But in the end I think Poz is one of the few guys not on the hot seat for 2009, maybe 2010 if he doesnt have a good year, but for right now, I think Poz is where he needs to be. McGee could very well be done as a starter if he gets burned this year. I think the pressure on him is enormous. Think about it: he’s playing next to a young playmaker so he’ll be pressured to maintain his role as the teams best corner. He’ll have to prove that keeping him and letting go of Greer was the right decision. He’ll have to prove he’s worthy of being resigned even though he’s getting up there in age. Thats a lot of pressure
Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
by poz on May 9, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
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by NJBill on May 9, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right. Fans may have high expectations for Poz, but he will never be a big time playmaker in coverage. He isn’t much of a blitzer and his role isn’t to make a ton of plays in the backfield. He racked up tackles last year and I thought he was our best LB and one of the few reliable players on defense. He is going to be a tackling machine and that should be enough for fans. he was a 2nd round pick and never should have been hyped as the next great Bill. Hopefully Bills fans can love him for what he is.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well said!
Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
by poz on May 9, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep....rec'd
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by Joe P. on May 9, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta disagree with you on the point that Poz "isn't much of a blitzer"
I don’t think we’ve been given the oppurtunity to see how good of a blitzer Poz can be.
There’s an article here from Real Football 365 that brings up the point that it could be the coaches use of Poz that’s limiting his play making abilities. I won’t go into great detail (you can read the article for yourself) but basically one of the main points is that the Bills with the Tampa 2 simply don’t blitz and from the games I was able to catch here in Michigan I have to agree. You can’t evaluate the merits of how a player plays if he is being hamstringed by the coaches. We don’t need playmakers we need the coaches to allow the players we have to make plays. At Penn State the guy averages 3 sacks a season, last season 0. I’m not saying he’s a sack master but he can get to the quarterback. In coverage he led all the Linebackers with 6 passes defended. There’s been alot talk so far this off season about opening up the offense with the no huddle. Maybe the D needs to be opened as well.
by MichiganBillsFan84 on May 11, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t buy it. I remember Poz blitzing a decent amount last year. I’d say he averaged 3 or so blitzes per game and I don’t even remembering putting any pressure on the QB one time all season.
And saying that the Bills don’t blitz is flat wrong. This team doesn’t really run an Indy style Tampa 2 defense. According to the Buffalo News, the Bills blitzed on 32% of pass plays and 17 of their 24 sacks came on plays where they blitzed.
by kaisertown on May 11, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
Poz couldn’t even sniff the QB when he’s blitzed. I’d say he’s mediocre, at best….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 11, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The author of the article himself said the Bills weren't a blitzing team
What is 32%, when compared to other teams? There is no reference here. Also if the Bills got 17 of their 24 sacks when blitzing why wasn’t their more blitzing?
Why do we see blitizing going from 51% against Cleveland (a game we were within a field goal of winning) and 45% against San Diego (a game we won) to 13% at the Jets (against Farve who can’t scramble) and 20% at the Patriots (a game we lost 10-20) where Cassell was only sacked once and threw for 234 yards.
by MichiganBillsFan84 on May 12, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s tough to find blitz statistics, but I’ve found a few….
The Bears blitzed 38.6% of the time, with only Dallas and Washington blitzing more.
Detroit blitzed 31.1% of the time
Tampa 21.5%
Indy 11.4%
So for a Tampa 2 D, the Bills blitzed more than most of them….
You can’t blitz too much or offenses will use the quick hitters to beat them.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 12, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you find blitz statistics? That's amazing
I’m still not entirely conviced that Poz can’t blitz. I’d look to see him with one more year under his belt, and we’ll continue this after next season.
Good job on countering my articles with your own, well played sir.
Does it say something though that out of the 7 teams you listed including the Bills with variations of the Tampa 2 only one made it to the playoffs?
by MichiganBillsFan84 on May 12, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luckily, the only article I could find was regarding a Tampa 2 team (Bears) and the blitz….
I’m not sure why the author didn’t include the Bills in the discussion though….oh well.
I don’t think Poz can be an effective blitzer outside the times he’s barely touched. To me, he just doesn’t have the suddenness, quickness or pass rush skills/experience to consistently beat interior blockers to get to the QB. Of course, he can become a good blitzer here, but from what I’ve seen of him, I don’t see it happening. That’s my opinion, so I’m sure others feel differently.
Does it say something though that out of the 7 teams you listed including the Bills with variations of the Tampa 2 only one made it to the playoffs?
Oh, I totally agree here, and the one that did make it wasn’t doing it because of their D. This is a topic for another day and post….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 12, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we’re not sure exactly how to see Poz. It’s known that he is a warrior and a solid football player. He’s an average three down linebacker and an above average run stopper. He’s not a great blitzer and he’s ok in coverage. He’s definitely not as good of an overall player as London Fletcher was when he was here. None of our linebackers are. Mitchell isn’t going to get any better, but Poz is still developing. The Bills need him to clearly step up as the best linebacker, and as a defensive leader. He kind of needs to be the heart of the defense. Fletcher was a very well prepared leader of the defense(always studying film, etc.) and Poz needs to be that leader. I hope he has a great season and comes into his own.
It's just a game.
by jj24 on May 9, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved Fletch
I think Poz can develop into a London Fletcher. He has so much room to grow still.
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
by poz on May 9, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He isn’t as fast as London. Fletch was a beast.
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by sireric on May 9, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe with a year of starting under his belt...
he can get a half second faster at his decision making and become a beast. Let’s hope.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually this was one of the few statements I thought didn’t make sense:
If he picks up that extra half-step that only experience can provide, Paul should be ready to have a break-out season.
It’s not ONLY experience that can provide that. Actually, talent can provide that, and if he doesn’t have that extra half step, he’ll probably never get it, no matter how experienced.
All in all, I don’t mind Poz. Good, solid player. Good defensive leader.
by thefourwinds on May 9, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what if the reason he is acting slow...
is that he is reacting slow. Now we take out a step in the decision making process because he’s seen it before and experience provides what you say only talent can provide.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. For an MLB like Poz, anticipating and/or reading a play and quickly reacting are far more important than speed and even quickness. A lot of that anticipation comes with film study and experience. But the biggest improvements could come from the confidence that experience brings.
Poz will never be able to fly from sideline to sideline like Fletcher could, but as his career moves along, he should become more of a playmaker as a run defender. He should start making more tackles on run plays that aren’t at his gap and things like that. I bet a healthy Poz ends up with 120+ tackles this year depending on how much the other team runs the ball.
And there are ways to improve short area speed other than the mental side of things as well. Things like balance and flexibility can improve agility and lead to better footwork and a quicker first couple of steps.
by kaisertown on May 9, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, MRW, I didn’t say ONLY talent can provide that. I was disagreeing with what Brian said, that ONLY experience can provide it. My point is that experience and talent CAN provide it, but there’s no guarantee experience WILL provide it.
by thefourwinds on May 11, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you also said he'd probably never get it...
implying that his experience could not make up for his perceived lack of talent.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d put Marcus Stroud on there. After getting a big extension this offseason, he needs to be better than last year. He disappeared for games at a time last season and really didn’t make a whole lot of plays once September ended. He needs to be a beast on our front 4 and help this D finally get better stopping the run.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost forgot about that exntension.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of extensions......it's safe to assume that a Mr Edwards is playing for his possible extension this year.
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by norcaliangelsfan on May 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah.
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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's playing for more than that
If he wants to be a starter in the NFL after this season, he needs to have a good year. He might need more than that, actually, if there is a coaching change after the year….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on May 10, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
along the same lines, i’m wondering why lynch isn’t on here. i realize he’s been pretty good in his time here, but he needs to show that he can mature and become more of a true running back – using the holes and running to space – instead of thinking he’s the second coming of Mike Alstott. there’s always his convictions to consider as well.
i know he’s good, and has a lot of potential. he still has a lot of issues. and he’s ugly as sin – all football players have to be attractive in order to be good [/lol].
by the_prophet on May 11, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poz
yet Poz lead the team in tackles and was a hair away from making big plays on several occasions. If he picks up that extra half-step that only experience can provide, Paul should be ready to have a break-out season.
Unfortunately, missing by a hair is what separates average players from impact players. Hoping that a season’s experience will make up for a lack of speed is one thing, believing it is quite another.
by jpheff on May 10, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do believe it though. I don’t think that Puz’s problm was so much speed as much as it was quick descision making. Taking that extra split second before chosing to hit this hole instead of that one, or taking that extra split second more to anticipate a play can mean the difference between being the guy that racks up a lot of tackles (Puz) or being the guy that will be a game changer (for example Ray Lewis). And that split second taken while making descisions can be eliminated with more experience. I think that thats what Poz (and I) was banking on.
by CanadianBillsFan on May 10, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this another town in western New York?
Football. Bloody Hell!!
by gregeng on May 10, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't someone (something) else be on this list?
Ralph Wilson…or at least his front office. he and they hold the keys to that coaching staff and the draft picks assembled. Wilson holds the keys to the retention wall of personnel from Donahoe’s tenure.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 11, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilson's legacy or job aren't on the line.
He is the only one with no internal pressure.
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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the guy is really old. I’m not sure he feels the pressure that the fans and media put on him. At least not to the extent that we would expect.
by kaisertown on May 11, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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