This isn’t a dump…just a blurb.

by krytime on Jun 18, 2009 11:32 PM EDT Comment 41 comments

I had a conversation today with Greg Laybourn, safety, from Oregon State. He was in town for a tryout at OBD.

First thing I thought was that this was not a big dude. He acknowledged as much, but made sure to mention he was a student of the game. This kid was the leading tackler in the Pac 10 last year, so who the hell am I to question his skills. Super polite guy, and very well spoken; the kind of guy you could tell likes football, and who likes to play it.

Like an idiot, I asked what was it like to play with Jaruis Byrd. He replied, “Uh, he played for Oregon, our arch rival.” Stupid me. We kept talking about football and he brought up Andy Levitre. Told me how amazing he was, and that he never saw a guy that big along the OL be that athletic. The “short arm” thing was brought up, but so was the versatility and leadership.

He also brought up Keith Ellison. He had nothing but mucho respect for him.

Also talked briefly with Leon Freeman, an OLB from Baylor. Same thing as Laybourn - super polite. If this dude is a LB, I would not want to be a RB.

On to the UFL…

I’m paying attention to this league. I think it has the right idea for the long haul, but I think they’re being dumb right off of the bat. Here’s why:

- Why is the team cap at almost 20 million a team? That’s what I heard/read; could be wrong. Even with only 4 teams, a Versus contract ain’t gonna net you that much, let alone cover the rest of your overhead.

- Why are they playing in the fall? Why not take advantage of the down time in sports when the NHL and NBA end, and MLB is king?

- Losman is the QB with local ties to this league, and deservedly so. But with Drew Willy being released by Baltimore today, might he have the chance to be a UFL QB? And will Losman now start a VegasLives.Org publicity stunt only to abandon it once he doesn’t like it there anymore?

- Who are the guys with any links to the Bills who might have a go-round with the UFL?

- Can guys who sign with the UFL just leave abruptly if offered a cup of coffee in the NFL?

- How many of you will play UFL fantasy football? For the record, I’d do it. Something small - maybe ten bucks or so for the entry.

- Will Vegas put lines out on these games?

- Why is this league not marketing itself? I know it’s only four teams. I know the season is only six games long. But still, if done the right way, it could be a huge success…

Is Langston Walker worthy of extension talk? He’s been a good teammate if you ask me.

When the schedule came out, I was happy the Jets home game was shipped out to Toronto. Was I short-sighted, maybe selfish? I hate that home game every year - hate it. But I’m thinking now the division is a lot closer than I thought (I really think it’s a crap shoot). Isn’t giving away a divisional home game away two years in a row despicable?

I read the Giants were selling the naming rights to their practice jerseys and practice field to Timex, from PFT. Now, we all know Wilson isn’t going to sell the naming rights to the stadium, just because…well…who knows. But, does he really need the practice field named after him as well? Isn’t that overkill? I thought the Timex deal was/is 15 for 35. Even if Buffalo got 15 for 1, isn’t that better than nothing at all?

Last I saw the Bills/Pats line for the opener, it was minus nine and a half.; never caught the over/under though. Anyone got that?

When does T.O.’s show air? What’s the percent that we will watch it?

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Don't sell yourself short...dumps come in all sizes

I’m paying attention to this league.

Give me one good reason why? Don’t say JP. If I wanted to watch poor QB play, the NFL has enough of that too.

Is Langston Walker worthy of extension talk?

No point in doing that right now. If he becomes a successful LT, he is going to want more money and they will just have to redo it again anyway.

Isn’t giving away a divisional home game away two years in a row despicable?

Yes. Ralf/Russ should not allow that to happen. I would rather have given them the Colts game, but to great a risk that the Bills will be out of it, thus making it harder to sell overpriced tickets. Maybe the Texans game would have been better?

When does T.O.’s show air? What’s the percent that we will watch it?

Don’t know or care. 0% chance I will watch…..well maybe 1%……If I were flipping channels and put the remote down to scratch and it came on, I would probably finish the job before turning the channel. Does that count?

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes. Ralf/Russ should not allow that to happen. I would rather have given them the Colts game

Just an idea – maybe they wanted to pick a team that would have more Bills followers than opponent followers? Teams like Indy, NO, MIA bring more of their fans. Maybe the Jets are as popular in Toronto….

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

are as popular in Toronto

aren’t as popular

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

By what I’ve seen in Toronto, the Jets are the only AFC-East team with LESS fans then the Bills in Toronto.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, maybe someone did their homework

Now the real question is…..will you guys be able to fill the stadium?

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

With the cheap seats now being under 100$ (they were over 150$ at last year’s game) and no oblivation to buy tickets to the entire Bills in Toronto Series, yeah I think the Rogers Centre should be packed. Although it was a late game-day sellout last year.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought there were a lot of empty seats come game time last year?

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They did on opening kickoff, but thats because not everyone was seated yet, or so they said. Officially, it was a sellout… although I’m not convinced of that.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It might be packed, but it’ll probably be another apathetic crowd….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no argument here, toronto is really lacking when it comes to vocals crouds, in any sport.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats too bad

I went to Yankee games at the Skydome many years ago, and there was never an empty seat in the whole dome. They really supported their Jays back then…they suck now. Still amazes me that they can’t sell-out an NFL game since it only happens once a year.

PROJECT MAYHEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by JTM1023 on Jun 19, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

will you guys be able to fill the stadium

my POV on this is so back and forth:

for instance i’d like them to have some trouble selling out so the Bills won’t definatley move there for sure because fans are lining up around the block to get tickets – but on the other hand i want them to sell tickets so they get the revenue.

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They won't get the revenue

The Bills signed for the $70M+ number whatever it was. I’m pretty sure the Rogers Center and those putting the game together will get any revenues from the games….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 19, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats right its a fixed rate for them right?

well I guess a little problem selling tickets isn’t too big a deal as long as the Ralph gets sold out every game

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right.

Bills get no money from consessions, parking, or tickets.

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

78 Million actually. If anyone losses money, it’s the Rogers Corporation, not the Bills.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If we build a new stadium (hahahahaha) with more suites,

I wonder if we would need to send games to Toronto? Would a new stadium that was located closer to Canada be able to sell suites to Canadian Businesses?

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I somehow doubt it. See the problem with Canadians businesses sponsoring the Bills isn’t so much that they don’t want to, but that most of them don’t have the wealth that American businesses have and therefore can’t sponsor the Bills with enough money to be publicly recognised in the US. Add that to the complication Constoms issues that arrise because the sponsorship is from outside the US (mostly caused by your laws), and it is simply not worth it for most Canadian businesses to sponsor the Bills.

I think the two major points that conviced Ralph to sell the games (outside of the outrageous sum of money thrown at him by Rogers) was the hope of bringing more Canadian fans to the Ralph and the Hope to sign Rogers on as an official sponsor of the Bills (seeing as they are one of the few Canadian companies that could profit by doing so).

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

most of them don’t have the wealth that American businesses have

Neither do our businesses. They just spend the money anyway and ask the government for a bailout.

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol. I would give a long winded opinion piece on what I think of the bailouts, but this really isn’t the place for it. Let’s just say that I find it funny how it’s the companies and banks that created this meltdown that are the ones gaining the most from it. Yet another reason why I’m haoppy to be in Canada.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Oh...and rec'd

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks!

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Could be, but

I think they are trying to tap into the whole AFC EAST rivalry thing.

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure seems like it

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just don’t want the Pats game to be in Toronto next year. There wont be a single Bills fan in the Dome.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 19, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ouch!!!....but if they are making the tour of the AFC, the Pats would make sense.

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

if they did i’d have to wonder if that was the plan all along as joe says

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahaha awesome – as Joe says – as i’m talking to Joe. yeeaaahhh

Everyone has a photographic memory… some just don’t have film

by J2 on Jun 19, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!!!! isn't blogging late at night fun.

P.S. The film in my camera is overexposed :-)

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool little nuggets on those random players. I wonder how often the Bills are running tryouts. My girlfriend’s sister’s boyfriend was in Buffalo for a tryout a week or two ago. He obviously didn’t get signed, but it sure seems like the team routinely brings guys in for workouts.

I’m only paying attention to the UFL when there’s nothing else to watch on TV. This league is not intriguing to me at all. There’s nothing special about it, it’s not different (like the Arena league is) and will be stocked with a bunch of crappy veterans or no-name youngsters. I am a diehard fantasy football player, but I just can’t see myself even considering a UFL league.

Why is this league not marketing itself?

Doesn’t their motto, “Where the future stars come to play!” just make you want to watch?!?!

Is Langston Walker worthy of extension talk? He’s been a good teammate if you ask me.

No way….since when does being a good teammate make you deserving of a new contract? He still has 3 years left on his current deal, and isn’t exactly a great player. He’s a solid player, who’s played pretty well for the most part, but there’s no way he deserves a new deal anytime soon.

But, does he really need the practice field named after him as well?

I honestly didn’t even realize it was named after him. I thought it was just the Fieldhouse or whatever. I think they should get Casino Niagara to sponsor it.

Last I saw the Bills/Pats line for the opener, it was minus nine and a half.; never caught the over/under though. Anyone got that?

In the NY Daily News, it was -10 and 46.5 yesterday, if I recall correctly.

When does T.O.’s show air? What’s the percent that we will watch it?

Which one? TO has two shows coming out. He has that Superstars show on ABC, which begins next Tuesday the 23rd. His reality show begins July 27th….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 19, 2009 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cool little nuggets on those random players. I wonder how often the Bills are running tryouts.

I don’t know. But apparently, they had 100 tryouts yesterday.

If the glove don’t fit, it couldn’t be Whit...

by thatguy34 on Jun 19, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will Vegas put lines out on these games?

Vegas puts out lines on everything, right? I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if they had lines trying to time kry’s next dump.

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by thefourwinds on Jun 19, 2009 3:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had lines trying to time kry’s next dump.

It’s a real crapshoot.

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by sireric on Jun 19, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

even funnier…

by krytime on Jun 19, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had lines trying to time kry’s next dump.

That actually made me laugh out loud.

by krytime on Jun 19, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

- Who are the guys with any links to the Bills who might have a go-round with the UFL?

The UFL had a Draft today. The only names I recognized as former Bills were Eric Powell and Larry Tripplett. HAHAHAHAHAHA

I guess Wendell Bryant might count since he tried out for the Bills.

Other interesting names included Chris Perry, Adam Archuleta, Jermaine Wiggins, Bo Schobel, Brooks Bollinger, Mike Doss, Cecil Sapp, LaBrandon Toefield, among others….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 19, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

A league of Has Beens and Never Was......should be craptastic!!!!!

Why does this quote remind me of what it is like to be a Bills fan?

" It is impossible for words….to describe…what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror….horror has a face….and you must make a friend of horror...." – Marlon Brando

by Joe P. on Jun 19, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also....

The league’s coaching staffs are littered with Bills’ ties:

-Derrick Burroughs, former Bills CB, will be a defensive coach for the NY team
-Jim Haslett, former Bills LB, will be the Orlando head coach
-Chuck Bresnahan, son of former Bills OL coach and O-Coordinator, will coach LB’s for Orlando
-Ted Cottrell, former Bills D-Coordinator, will be the head coach of the NY team
-Don Blackmon, former Bills LB coach, will serve as D-Coordinator of the NY team
-Martin Bayless, former Bills safety, will coach the DB’s in San Fran

There might be more connections, but that’s all I could come up with…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 19, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs