numbers for the optimists
Buffalo scored 30 offensive touchdowns last year. It was a strong 24th best in the league. Rian Lindell hit 78.9% of his field goals and Buffalo finished an even stronger 28th in that category. We also had a 1.25 to 1 ratio of attempted field goals to offensive touchdowns. That was the 27th best in the league. And my personal favorite, our Bills turned the ball over 29 times. The team also had 9 turnovers on downs and their 38 total turnovers tied Houston for the 3rd most. That Dick Jauron style offense never really happened last year and only four teams turned the ball over more times than Buffalo did. Now, this may look like I'm doing my usual talk people down from their unrealistic expectations routine, but considering that Buffalo had a decent year despite all that (insert soft schedule comments here) actually has me thinking that a little growth from Trent, a new center giving this team a fighting chance on 3rd and 1 and that TO character really could push this offense into the top 10-15 in the league.
The first thing to discuss is whether Buffalo's 38 FG attempts from last year (4th most, behind only NE, PHI and NYG) is a good thing or a bad thing. Obviously it's a negative when your thinking about how the season went last year, but if your using that number to try and forecast how the Bills' offense is going to do this season, then I think it's a good thing. The fact that Buffalo had that many drives resulting in a chance to score is a positive. Add in Buffalo's 30 TDs and their 68 drives that resulted in a TD or FG attempt was the 16th most in the league. Not great, but not terrible either.
Here's a positive stat: Buffalo only punted 53 times last year. It was tied with Indy and Houston for the 4th fewest in the league. Want to know why Chicago traded for Jay Cutler? Here's one reason, Denver only punted 46 times last year. It was 4 fewer than NE who punted the 2nd fewest. San Diego was the other team to finish ahead of Buffalo. Chicago on the other hand punted 96 times, the second most in the league.
The obvious thing to factor in is JP Losman's ineptitude. In just 3.5 games (AZ, MIA, NYJ, half of SF), Losman turned the ball over 9 times. The Bills also managed to have 4 drives end on downs with Losman at QB. Talk about clutch. They only turned the ball over on downs 5 times in Trent's 12.5 games. So including downs, the Bills turned the ball over 25 times with Edwards at QB. Let's also subtract Robert Royal's two fumbles because I doubt that whoever takes over his role is going to fumble once per every 15 touches or whatever Royal averaged. So that's 23 turnovers and if you extrapolate that out to 16 games then it's 29.5 turnovers. If you include the turnovers on downs for each team, then Edwards' extrapolated turnovers would have been the 13th fewest in the league. Not too shabby.
Losman also struggled to put this team in a position to score points. Buffalo had 11 drives with Losman at the helm that ended in either a TD or FG attempt. As a team, Buffalo had 68 of those drives, so Trent had 57 of them. Extrapolate that out and it's a hair short of 73. Believe or not, but that would have tied Arizona and Green Bay for the 8th most in the league.
So with Edwards at QB, Buffalo didn't turn the ball over too often. They punted far less often than your average team and had more drives into scoring territory than all but the best offensive teams. Rian Lindell should bounce back this year considering that he hit 88.9% of his FGs in 2007 and 92% in 2006. So it all comes down to those 38 attempted FGs to 30 offensive TDs ratio. Things really might be as simple as finishing off drives with TDs instead of field goals for this offense to take off. I know that's a tall task, but it's the kind of thing that a little improvement from Trent, a few more third and short conversions and some guy named TO might be able to pull off.
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I really wanted to vote us into the top 10
but i couldn’t do it. I just cannot be that optimistic, i think, if Trent plays at least 14 games we will be ranked between 9 and 13.
We drop a couple of places for each game he misses past that
Football. Bloody Hell!!
I’ll be optimistic for you. I’m looking at between 7-9 if everything clicks.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
is that a joke? (7-9)
If so, I laughed
The Bills CAN win any game
by killascript on Jun 30, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s fine if you did. I did say “if everything clicks”. That means our O-line gels from day one giving Edwards time to go through his reads and giving our stable of RBs daylight to run through, our D-line pressures the QB, our D gets handfuls of 3 and outs, Edwards plays all 16 games and reads the D calling run audibles when apropos.
Honestly, I’ll be happy with anything from 6-17 as long as we get to the playoffs and ecstatic to get through the first round. I believe in the team this year more than the past three years and I think that the team has made the largest strides this year in FA and the draft. It’s a talented balanced offense that has it’s strengths and just needs certain pieces to fall into place, i.e. Edwards coming into his own and the O-line. We’ll find all of that out come end of July and into September as 53 men prepare to play for our beloved city’s honor (I don’t think most of them even grasp that they are doing that when they take the field). But I’m just a glass half full kind of guy. Seriously, look at my name.
Resume laughing.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jun 30, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah… LOL.
god, I wish I was that witty.
I try to block out the previous season each year. You know, start fresh from zero. Helps my temperament, outlook on life and keeps me away from loaded weapons and large crowds.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jun 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
....yeah, I thought that was a joke
I’d say its hard to pinpoint an offensive production projection between slots 7 and 9…
The Bills CAN win any game
Your overall theme appears to be that this team is close.
I tend to agree. Just 6 more TD’s instead of FG’s. Just 5 fewer turnovers. Lindell returns to form and hits 5 more FG’s that turn out to be the margin of victory in a game or two. I voted us having too many weapons not to be pretty good, 11-16.
Who’s to say how many more wins we get with just a marginal improvement in our offense? This is dangerous thinking…
…and then I remember the drubbing we got from Randy Moss and the Patsies… or Arizona hanging 50 on our defense. Games where the Bills looked like a Division III team playing the Super Bowl champs.
Are we close or are we delusional homers?
by Defensewinsgames on Jun 30, 2009 7:24 AM EDT reply actions
Are we close or are we delusional homers?
I think we’re both. The team is that close to major improvements, but everything has to go right for them to happen. And thats where we become homers, because we think that they will happen. Nothing ever goes off without a hitch.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 3, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a really good anaylsis.
Everything you say makes sense. It may be too optimistic saying everything needs to go this way or that way to make it work. Overall, though I like the numbers. Rec’d.
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Good post
The problem is however: not very often in the past 10 years have things gone our way..
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone"
-Marshawn Lynch-
That soft schedule really did play a part though. Playing a tougher schedule might make it difficult or impossible to actually improve on these.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’l agree and disagree with that. Simply because Buffalo is a young team and young teams tend to play to the level of their opponents. We started out last year with playing a lot of bad teams and that seemed to set the tone for our play all year long. This year we play A LOT of STRONG teams. Hopefully they will play up to their opponents and keep that momentum going… but I’m not holding my breath.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 3, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
as usual, this is some good commentary. it’s always interesting to see what circumstances can cause poor numbers, and the ones you point out are definitely one of them.
finishing with TDs instead of FGs have been the recipe for the past how many years? But we just haven’t been able to make it happen.
I do like the idea that we can win some more 3rd and 1s, I think TO gives us that extra boost to move the chains…and I have a special feeling about our RBs. I am not as worried about our O-line as some, although like everyone I will be keeping a close eye.
My biggest worry is that our offense makes a jump ahead, but the defense falls back. That leave us right back at 7-9 if not worse as far as W & Ls, and the schedule is a doozy as we all know, so I hope this team grew up…
we still have Jauron though
The Bills CAN win any game
Even if T.O. doesn't get mroe first downs on his own...
Josh Reed in the slot instead of split out should help that, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Jun 30, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Josh Reed in the slot instead of split out should help that, too.
Captain First Down i’m expecting this year. Definately going to frustrate opposing teams and fans.
I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
This is what I am looking forward to the most...
Josh Reed is going to put up huge reception numbers this year. When teams umbrella Evans and TO Reed will use his options routes to find a hole to get open. I will go out on a limb and say that Reed will haul in 70 catches. This will not supplement for TO and Lee’s receptions, but I think that our TE will be the support blocking for Walker and Butler which will also allow Lynch, Jackson and Rhodes to come out of our backfield.
Receptions – TD:
Evans – 80 – 9
TO – 70 – 11
Reed – 70 – 5
Tight Ends – 3 TD
Josh Reed is going to be the player with the career year and benefit the most from TO
by hilliarddavid on Jun 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
With receiving projections like that, what are your projections for the Run?
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Evans has a better chance of finishing with 50 catches than he does 80 catches, IMO.
There’s no way we have three receivers with 70+ catches, as well as the 5+ TD’s. You’d have to expect guys like Johnson, Parrish and Hardy to total a few TD’s and the RB’s should get 1 or 2 as well. Trent throwing for 30-35 TD’s just seems absurd.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Trent throwing for 30-35 TD’s just seems absurd.
but sweet
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by J2 on Jun 30, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget...
that we are hoping the addition of TO will bring more first downs and longer drives. If this is the case, I think that our WR and RB will get more receptions and carries.
Maybe my projections are a little far fetched.
by hilliarddavid on Jul 1, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
28 TD? wow your almost as optomistic as my 31 TD prediction was about a month ago (it’s in the comments). Looking back, I feel like i was overly optimistic, I don’t think that he’ll have 31 TD’s, or 28 as you put him, but 20 should be easy for him to get this year, and 25 is deffinatly an outside possibility.
by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 3, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Never underestimate the power of ball control
grinding and moving the chains is a huge part of the NFL and i believe series are won on first down. 3rd down is where you need the QB to be sharp and make plays but its the first down play that puts teams in position to keep the clock moving and finish games. We have a better opportunity to do that this year and i wanted to share with you this efficiency rating that troy aikman put together:
Aikman Efficiency Ratings Formula
The Aikman Efficiency Ratings measure offensive and defensive performance using a combination of seven key statistics identified by Troy, and then measured against league norms (and extremes) established over the last 10 years. An offense or defense performing exactly at league norms in all categories will achieve a score of 75. The better the offense or defense, the higher the score on either scale.
It will take a truly exceptional unit to score more than 90 during an entire season on either the offensive or defensive scale. Higher scores are possible in individual games.
In 2005, AER scores ranged on offense from 92.6 (Seattle) to 60.9 (San Francisco) and on defense from 89.3 (Chicago) to 61.1 (Houston). The seven categories measured are:
Adjusted Points (20%) — Total Points Scored or Allowed minus Points on Returns and Safeties
Turnovers (20%)
Red Zone Efficiency (20%) — Measured by Percent of Possible Points (see below)
Yards Per Play — divided into Yards Per Rush (10% of total) and Yards Per Pass Play (10% of total). Yards Per Pass Play includes yards on plays involving sacks.
First Down Achievement — divided into Total First Downs (10% of total) and 3rd Down Conversion Percentage (10% of total)
Percentage of Possible Points in the Red Zone is figured by taking the number of Red Zone Chances times 7, then dividing it by the number of Points Actually Scored (defined as TDs times 7 plus FGs times 3).
Either way all this says is that buffalo was middle of the road, but it is not impossible to think that buffalo has a legit chance to move up these raitings and squeeze into the playoffs. Last year bills ended 12th at 73.7. Just for what its worth to share. thanks for the posts!
good post kaiser
i’m loving this dialogue on the offense lets keep it rolling!
a couple of things.
The first thing that stuck out to me the most was
our Bills turned the ball over 29 times. The team also had 9 turnovers on downs and their 38 total turnovers tied Houston for the 3rd most. That Dick Jauron style offense never really happened last year and only four teams turned the ball over more times than Buffalo did.
ouch! what a stat! I knew I was cursing at my television often but that really puts in perpective just how bad we were at protecting the rock. This has to improve with another year under Trents belt and JP Losman gone (if Edwards gets hurt though I have a feeling Fitzpatrick will be even worse in that department than JP!)
I like the way your looking at this. If we even convert 20% of our FGs into TDs look out! This is why I think its very possible for TO and Evans to put up big numbers. How many third downs did we convert through the air versus failing? I’d love to know because it can’t be good. I also expect you dont bring in TO to not throw more and that this should open up some great draws for Fred Jackson which should keep defenses off guard.
Overall, our ability to move the chains should increase incredibly. We have a tough schedule for sure but we often forget how good Trent is when hes healthy. Very accurate (65.5%) and as you pointed out, he keeps drives going.
kaiser do I sense a hint of growing optimism in your post…nah…can’t be!! your re-enforcing my lofty expectations man!
Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
This has to improve with another year under Trents belt and JP Losman gone
And with Royal gone.
"I know I'm a true receiver..." Roscoe Parrish, Buffalo Bills - May 2009
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by thefourwinds on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
true good point
Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

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