Jets & Dolphins War of Words in June

This is some great stuff. I don't like this Ryan character already but I gotta give him his due, at least he is willing to make it interesting in June. But as much as testosterone induced fans love this kind of trash talk in June, Id take Dick Jauron 100 out of 100 over Rex Ryan

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Ditto.

Id take Dick Jauron 100 out of 100 over Rex Ryan

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Jun 9, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hope we all feel that way in October and beyond

We have no idea how good of a coach Rexy will be. We have a pretty good idea of what kind of coach Jauron is. Who has more up side?

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 9, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would love to just sit back and let everyone talk it up and just take the division by storm.

by LIBi on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

agreed

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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jun 9, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Those are the things you want your coach to say," Moore said. "Coaches usually give cliched answers. But for him to give his true feelings. … No, he’s not here to keep congratulating or pay homage to Bill Belichick. He’s here to win football games."

In some ways I agree with this completely. I hate cliched answers.

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by sireric on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed with that

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 9, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I half agree. I’m not a fan of cliche’s, but what Ryan did was so far in the opposite direction that it was just as bad, or maybe even worse. Everybody loves a good, honest answer. But for him to say that he isn’t there to kiss Belichick’s rings was just inlfammatory and stupid. Did anyone actually think that he took the job to kiss the hoodies rings? It’s like if Ryan said he didn’t take the job to lose football games … duh! There is just nothing to gain with an obvious, but inflammatory statement.

by kaisertown on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m with kaiser on the half-agree. You can express confidence without having words land up on another team’s locker room bulletin board.

by krytime on Jun 9, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that’s all the Pats need, another reason to feel underappreciated. They’ve been playing the “no respect” card this whole decade.

I’m having trouble reading Ryan. I think he’s a blowhard and that he’ll have a Gregg Williams-esque coaching career. A little part of me thinks that he’s doing this on purpose to keep the attention off of his players and how much they suck.

by syrbillsfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sick of Rex Ryan

I know a lot of people like how hes picking up his team and getting behind his guys but he needs to relax and realize there is plenty of season left. All I know is that the Jets are not very good, they are not bad by any means, but they are not very good. If I’m playing on that team I’ll be getting sick of my coaching talking smack if we’re 2-4 to start the year. I don’t like people who talk trash before a down is played.

Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and realize there is plenty of season left.

….or the entire training camp, preseason and regular seasons…..

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 9, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you really think

If I’m playing on that team I’ll be getting sick of my coaching talking smack if we’re 2-4 to start the year.

he will be talking smack then?

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 9, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

at the rate hes going

I wouldn’t be surprised. The guy can’t keep his mouth shut.

Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jun 10, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but he is taking some media attention away from his QB. Smart move IMO.

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 10, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe he is

but which QB? Clemens or Sachez? Neither Harbaugh or Mike Smith tried to take attention away from their rookie QBs and they turned out fine. Why should Ryan feel like he has to now?

Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jun 10, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Several reasons

Expectations – Neither Ryan or Flacco were expected to be that good that quickly. Because the were, the bar has been raised for Sachez.

Location – Atlanta and Baltimore are not New York. The NY media is ruthless.

Coaching personality – Harbaugh and Smith are much more low key type coaches than Ryan. You have to be yourself and Ryan is doing that.

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 10, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harbaugh and Smith are much more low key type coaches than Ryan. You have to be yourself and Ryan is doing that.

So your saying that we should be expecting to hear these arrogant comments for a while then.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jun 10, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Self expression doesn't appear to be a problem for Rex Ryan.

And what part is arrogant?

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 10, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he’s like Shawn Merriman – he trash-talks and points at himself everytime he makes a tackle, even though the other player may have gotten a first down. It doesn’t matter to him the situation, it’s always time to celebrate being himself.

by syrbillsfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t even notice this one:

"I don’t know this Channing Crowder," said Ryan, whose father, Buddy Ryan, attended his press conference. "All I know is that he’s all tatted up.

WTF? Rex Ryan is officially insane. I think I like that because he’s going to be a trainwreck all year.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 9, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is a joke dude

The guy has personality. Bills fans are not used to that in a head coach.

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 9, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think he was joking...

Yeah, the personality and energy is something we’ve been missing out on….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jun 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Put it in context

I don’t know this Channing Crowder, but all I know is that he’s all tatted up so I guess I need to be nervous about him. He’s right about one thing. I am a first-time head-coach, but I’ve been around the game all my life. I’m no different now than I’ve ever been. It’s just that more people are listening. The other thing is, I think he’s wrong. I think you do win in June. You win with your preparation and all that kind of stuff. If I was younger, I would handle him myself (laughing). He’s a good player. It is fun to ruffle some feathers. I have no problem doing that. Again, I’m confident in my football team. I’m confident in myself. I’m confident in our players, coaches and this entire organization. That’s why I say the things that I say.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/rex-ryan-fires-back-at-channing-crowder/

"I’m not sure how anyone can expect Buffalo to make the playoffs without blind offseason induced homeristic optimism being the majority of their reasoning." - kaisertown

by Joe P. on Jun 9, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're both right

there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said, but he is still a fat loudmouth who will be fun to hate.

by thejimbo on Jun 10, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So guys with tatts should be feared?

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by MattRichWarren on Jun 10, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m pretty sure they needed a there.

by syrbillsfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m pretty sure they needed a |sarcasm| there

by syrbillsfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you are a head coach in the NFL and don’t know who Channing Crowder is I have to wonder what else you don’t know. This guy is a starting OLB and probably one of the top 30 players at his position. He is not sub scrub backup bounced in and out of the league. He is coincidentally a guy I wanted the Bills to get to replace Ellison. For a head coach not to know who this guy is makes me wonder if he is still in the phase of being a defensive coordinator and only knowing offensive personell and his own defense. Got to think the Jets offense is going to be a disaster. I think they should leave Crowder one on one with a running back on pass situtations. I am sure Sanchez will love that.

by Berg79 on Jun 10, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Channing Crowder top 30 at his position, really?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jun 10, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even if he isn’t top 30, he is a starter on a division rival. Maybe Ryan doesn’t study the rosters of every team in the NFL, but he should have at least heard the name before.

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by sireric on Jun 10, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Croweder agrees with you Berg

Rotoworld.com writes:

Channing Crowder and Rex Ryan ramped up their war of words Tuesday, with Crowder advising Ryan to “learn who your rival is.”
“I don’t know this Channing Crowder,” said Ryan. The Jets coach also chided Crowder about preparing for the season in June. “Oh, Lord have mercy,” Crowder answered. “What’s wrong with him? Now he’s talking about preparation? If he wants to be prepared, shouldn’t he know the starting middle linebackers of his division rival?”

Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jun 10, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ryan were just getting under Crowder’s skin.

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by thefourwinds on Jun 10, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ya if thats what hes going for

it looks like its working.

Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jun 10, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. I mean one would think you would know most returning starters in the NFL especially one in your division and didn’t Baltimore play Miami in the playoffs last year? I am sure they did and therefore he can’t use the excuse of being unfamiliar with the fins.

by Berg79 on Jun 10, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

apple didn't fall far from the tree

its almost eerie how much like father, like son. i’m guessing the story will go about the same, too. jets will have a good defense, will buy into rexy’s sexy talk, but eventually get tired of the bombast blowhard mentallity that, like his pop – just really loves to hear the sound of his own voice.

rexy will have far more opportunities to hear himself talk in the ny media kleig lights than his equally lardy rumped progenitor ever had. eventually, like buddy, rexy’s ego will start making promises his players have to back up, and they’ll turn on him.

it will be a fun circus to watch.

by LeClaireBill on Jun 11, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs