Ten Bills to Decide 2009, No. 3: DE Aaron Schobel
by Brian Galliford on Jul 10, 2009 12:15 PM EDT
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I'd be remiss if I didn't start off an article on Buffalo Bills DE Aaron Schobel by mentioning the fact that he is, by a considerable, my favorite players to don a Bills uniform in the last decade. Football is full of prima donnas that love their camera time and coach-speak that usually wastes time; on the rare occasion that Schobel speaks with the media, however, he's blunt, honest, and extremely low-profile. I respect that about him. His indifference towards that side of the game is very endearing, particularly when considering how hard he plays when he's on the gridiron.
Unfortunately for the Bills, Schobel didn't get to spend a lot of time there during the 2008 season. After registering just one sack through the first four games of the year, Schobel suffered a Lisfranc foot injury that caused him to miss eleven games - the first games he'd missed in his eight-year NFL career. The injury eventually landed him on IR, and the Bills were without the player that had led the team in sacks in each of his first seven seasons as a pro. Needless to say, the impact was felt; Buffalo's leaders in sacks - LB Kawika Mitchell and DE Ryan Denney - registered just four each as the Bills' pass rush reached historic lows.
Schobel elected to abstain from surgical remedies to his foot; he's expected to be full go for training camp after having participated in the team's mandatory June mini-camp and most of the voluntary OTA sessions. It's nowhere near a secret that the Bills will struggle to compete in the AFC East if they cannot put pressure on opposing quarterbacks. Now, more than ever, Buffalo needs a big year from Schobel if they wish to meet their playoff aspirations.
It's an unfortunate reality in the NFL that when you make a lot of money, judgments are passed about you a bit unfairly. Schobel is in the midst of playing out a seven-year, $50 million deal he signed in August of 2007. In short, he's paid like a franchise cornerstone - and, in reality, Schobel is one of the centerpieces of this franchise. But despite his consistency (registering between 6.5 and 14 sacks in each of his first seven seasons), most don't consider him the type of player around which a sturdy defense can be built. He's not a superstar. But don't blame the player - he's very good at what he does.
Simply put, Schobel is one of the best pass rushers in team history - and he's gotten there in his typical low-key way, emerging as one of the most underrated (yet simultaneously overrated... figure that one out) pass rushers in the NFL. He put up excellent statistics despite playing with little to no help from his defensive end counterparts. He's carried Buffalo's pass rush through good defensive seasons and bad. It's about time the Bills went out and got him some help, in the form of rookie DE Aaron Maybin.
Whether we want to admit it or not, Schobel is still the centerpiece of Buffalo's defense. Or, rather, he's the centerpiece figure in the most important aspect of Buffalo's defense - the pass rush. With Maybin on board, the Bills finally have two legitimate pass-rushing threats to work with. In reality, we don't need much more from Schobel than is unreasonable to expect - somewhere between 7 and 10 sacks and a whole boatload of hustle. But the idea of relying on solely Maybin in the pass rush department is, quite literally, terrifying. With Schobel, this Bills defense finally has a shot to make opposing quarterbacks think about getting rid of the ball quickly. Without him, we're right back where we ended 2008.
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I really hope he pulls through this year.
With stroud and Schobel both sometimes demanding double teams,I hope mabin has a fantastic year
I can do everything through him who gives me strength. Philippians 4:13
That would be the best case scenario for the team
If we can get Maybin in a 1-on-1 situation against a RT on passing downs, I think his talent will let him make an impact. If Stroud and Schobel can’t create that opportunity for him, the D will be right back where it was last year — hanging the DBs out to dry as QBs wait for routes to develop.
Hope Schobel has a great year
I’ve suffered a broken foot before and know how painful and difficult to rehab they are. You never think about your feet, but you sure notice them when there’s something wrong with them!
Wouldn’t it make a great story if Aaron has a “Comeback Player of the Year” type of season?
Get the Bills back to the big game!
Great write-up Brian. I think everything you wrote in here is accurate. There is no doubt Schobel needs to return to form – not Pro Bowl form but I would take the 6.5 sacks out of him and say it’s acceptable. I really hope he comes out and has 8 sacks or something and gets a bunch of pressure and re-establishes himself as a good pass rusher.
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I have to be a pessimist here
I will not count on Schobel to have a big year, and that might spell doom for our defense…but my expectations are low for him and that mostly has to do with his health. If injuries roll through this defense, we can expect a long year…and it starts with 94, and then if Stroud were to go down….forget it…and both are very real possibilities even if Stroud managed to play all 16 games last year. My fingers are crossed for our D line….a D line that has performed at best average to begin with
The Bills CAN win any game
Finally….. Somebody has some praise for the only guy (offense or defense ) who has continually been a threat to opposing teams for the past six years(last year not included).
Schobel is all heart , blue collar effort and just like Brian says, doesn’t look for the spotlight after doing his job.
This article is bang on about the over\under rated value of Schobel. Our leader in sacks for all these years but one bad injury and a lot of people want to put him out to pasture.
I’m confident Aaron will be back this year re-charged,angry and ready to show everyone who doubts him that he is the real deal.
I hope young Maybin, who seems like a classy guy himself, can learn from Schobel how a pro should act. These two guys together have all the potential to be a true threat in the AFC east.
Maybe not this year
Don’t count on Schobel to finish the year….I could see Kelsay on the right and Maybin on the left, starting the last 8 games
The Bills CAN win any game
Why though?
Until last year he had never missed a game. His pattern is to play.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 11, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I am weary of a player hitting 30 and having a serious injury that had him out of commission for six months (roughly). Also, he wasn’t very productive his last healthy year, so if he does stay in for a majority of the year, I am worried he’s going to be a step slower, and that goes against his skills.
I want to be wrong, but I am very concerned.
The Bills CAN win any game
by killascript on Jul 11, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just responding to your 8 games comment.
It just didn’t jive with his past history.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 11, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha...
It was just a different way of saying the second half of the season. This kind of crappy voo-doo hex on the Bills can happen at anytime
The Bills CAN win any game
by killascript on Jul 12, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree on two points
Being with schobel will hopefully mold maybin into a hard working blue collar player, and I feel Aaron comes back with a sizable chip on his shoulder after last years dissapointing season.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 10, 2009 6:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What’s more likely to happen…Schobel somehow getting 8 or more sacks or him actually playing 16 games?
I have no confidence Schobel’s foot will hold up. He had a lisfranc sprain, one of the worst foot injuries someone can have, and he didn’t have surgery to fix it? That’s just asking for a relapse, and with how much stress he will be placing on his feet, I think it’s just a matter of time before it gives out again.
Now if he were to stay healthy, he’ll be our top pass rusher, but that’s not really saying much. I’ve never found Schobel to be much of a threat off the edge, instead being an extremely hardworking and relentless player that just gets the job done. I predicted he wouldn’t have more than 7 sacks after his big 2006 season, and I feel the same way now. If he does accumulate that many, I will be pleasantly surprised. We could use the production again that’s for sure. And we really need his play supporting the run back on the field. He’s very underrated in that aspect. Underrated in the run game and overrated rushing the passer, that’s pretty much how I’d describe Schobel’s game.
Let’s hope he stays healthy and keeps you know who planted on the sidelines more often….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Let’s hope he stays healthy and keeps you know who planted on the sidelines more often….
Should we start calling 90 “Lord Voldemort” now?
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 10, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
no, it is "He who shall not be named" if you say his name you call his attention upon your self, and no one wants that...
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are you talking about Chris Kelsay?
:-)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 10, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
nope, Jermaine McGhee
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
ah that was my 486087098980niner987th guess
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 11, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
but, like you said, if Schobel got even 7 sacks it would be huge, and if we just get a few guys (3 or 4) to attain a moderate number of 3 to 7 sacks this year, we will be better than last year….if thats any consolation to a mediocre or less pass rush
The Bills CAN win any game
I have no confidence Schobel’s foot will hold up. He had a lisfranc sprain, one of the worst foot injuries someone can have, and he didn’t have surgery to fix it? That’s just asking for a relapse
Whoa, hold on here. Are you a podiatrist? I’ll admit I’m not, but I couldn’t find anything that indicated non-surgical treatment (which, by the way, is well documented as a completely viable treatment method) for lisfranc fractures led to a predication towards reinjury.
Breaking a bone doesn’t make it more susceptible to future breaks if it’s given proper time to mend, dude.
the issue is that repeated strains on an injury that is basically a stress fracture isn’t a good idea. according to wikipedia:
bq. At present, such an injury happens typically when one steps into a hole and the foot twists heavily.
this means that his standard motion of turning the corner will be aggravating an old injury. add that to the fact that he’s starting to get a little up there in age and that even now he’s still saying it’s sore until he stretches properly, and i find myself questioning if he’ll be able to go the distance.
if anyone can do it, it’s him. i just don’t know if he can.
ah, that quote didn’t really work. it’s supposed to say this:
At present, such an injury happens typically when one steps into a hole and the foot twists heavily.
wikipedia?
ah wikipedia the leading source of unverified information and the pinnacle of medical knowledge.
Schobel broke a bone in his foot. when bones heal, the mended area becomes more dense and actually STRONGER than the bone was to begin with. It is very unlikely that he will reinjure his lisfranc. If its not fully healed it could be reinjured but its highly unlikely that its not fully healed after nearly a year. bones usually heal in 6-8 weeks.
by Polish Lover on Jul 14, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually if I remember my very brief science eduxation
A broken bone becomes stronger after it heals, assuming it heals correctly.
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by silverstreak3k on Jul 10, 2009 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I’m not a podiatrist, nor do I wish I was one. I have no idea if his foot will hold up, but knowing how devastating a lisfranc injury is, I’m surprised anyone would elect not to have surgery on it. He will be constantly driving off on his feet, and there will be a lot of strain being put on those puppies. Obviously, I have no idea if his foot will hold up and has healed 100%, but I’d have to believe he is susceptible to reinjuring it just because of the position and sport he plays. I’m probably wrong, but he is a 30+ athlete with a lot of tread on him tires. And who knows if he’ll favor it at all, which might lead to another injury altogether….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
the reason not to have surgery
In order to have surgery on a lisfranc (or anything else) the surgeon has to cut through connective tissue, muscle and skin in order to access the injured area. all this tissue needs to heal in addition to the bone that was actually injured. If it is possible to realign the bone or allow it to heal without surgery, the patient will actually recover much faster and can avoid the risk of further complications from infection (see Tom Brady) and from the healing of the incision points.
by Polish Lover on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no confidence Schobel’s foot will hold up.
I hate to say it, but I agree with this. I just don’t know why he didn’t get the surgery when it was initially diagnosed. I’ve been hard on the Bills medical staff (even though it’s been proven that they actually rank middle of the pack with regard to man-games lost). Was his injury initailly diagnosed last year as a Lisfranc injury? If it was, then I’ll eat crow and go home. If it wasn’t, well, uh….
I obviously hope he has a huge season. I really admire the kind of player he is, even if I’ve always thought he was a tad overrated. Know this Rumblers – I am not betting on the “over” of amount games he plays in if it’s set at 12 or above. Not a chance. I’d even set the over/under at 9.5 for him.
Was his injury initailly diagnosed last year as a Lisfranc injury?
Yes and no. Schobel had a sore foot for a couple of weeks before the AZ game. He was on the injury report and played his last game against the Cards. After the pain got extreme is when the staff figured things out. They came out and said he had a sprained foot which leads me to believe that they knew what it was all along, but were hopeful that since it was just a sprain and there were no breaks that he could miss a month or so and be good to go. I think the medical staff did as well as could be expected.
We need Schobel to go for 16 games and rack up 7-10 sacks IF we want to be successful on D this year
As K noted though and prophet mentioned, this type of injury is due to stress being placed in a weird place in a weird way, and if you ever watch NFL games in slow-mo, you will see human bodies doing things they shouldn’t be able to do all the time. I honestly hope we get 16, but I figure we get 12 from him, and around 4-8 sacks.
This will help us, but not solve any major issues, and I think he will have his usual solid season against the run, he and Denney are truly the best we got there.
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I just hope he’s relatively healthy. If he misses a game here or there, fine. It’s better than him missing the second half of the season or whatever and forcing us to play you know who 60 snaps a game.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Amen and pass the biscuits my fellow 90 hater
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few things
1. My office gave a sweet phone a few months ago and I just realized I can use it to post even as I sit on a crowded bus in traffic. So awesome!
2. Perfect Brian. Exactly where schobel should be on the list and exactly what should be said of him. I believe he’ll be better than ever this season
3. Kurupt you are officially MRWs opposite. I’ve seen you go through stretches of dispair many times in the past but never anything this sustained and in regards to so many aspects of the team. I know your thinking as you read this “I’m not trying to be negative just realistic” but you have clearly steered onto the path of the non believer. Hang in there buddy sometimes when things look the worst its on the doorstep of victory. Ya gotta believe!
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by poz on Jul 10, 2009 11:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I believe he’ll be better than ever this season
That’s just something you say right? Like a cliche type of political answer or something. Do you literally think he’s going to be better than ever or just back to his old pre-foot injury self?
I’m not sure exactly what Kurupt is thinking (note my use of the word, exactly), but I feel like I’m sounding more and more pessimistic too. I’m not actually feeling that way though. I think I feel better about this season then I did at the same time last year. I’d bet that most of what makes K sound so pessimistic is that this blog is sounding more and more optimistic. Keysh, MRW and their optimistic ways weren’t posting last summer and if anything, I found myself playing optimist to superfan’s negative feelings towards Josh Reed and Jauron. Like you said, we’re just trying to be realistic.
Yeah, that sounds about right. The supremely optimistic guys just seem way to optimistic to me. Some things are optimistic and some things just seem unrealistic and that’s where I try to inject my silly opinions. I do go back and read some of the things I write and I honestly don’t believe they are all that pessimistic, they just look extremely pessimistic in comparison to the optimist’s feelings…
And I know one thing….I’ve defended Josh Reed pretty much his whole career, while many haven’t. Most Bills fans have critciized that guy at some point, but for some reason, I think he’s been unfairly treated. He’s a good play who never gets the respect he deserves. That’s one thing that really irritated me about Superfan, his pure hatred for Reed.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I'll admit I was down on Reed for a long time, but now that he will be playing the role he was made to do
Which is as the 3rd WR, chain moving middle of the field guy I am much happier with him and his play. In many ways I projected my dislike for SFM onto him because they kept misusing him, rather than just taking a moment to appreciate all the effort he made to TRY and be something he wasn’t. Reed is no #2 or 1a WR, but as a third option he really is hard to beat, I mean, aside from say Welker.
But I think your onto it here K, you just seem more pessimistic in comparison to the happy guys, I’m on your side though pal! Us nay sayers against the yes sayers!
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I wish we could complain about things like our backups fighting for jobs or how we didn’t win by more than a touchdown…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I believe he’ll be better than ever this seasonThat’s just something you say right? Like a cliche type of political answer or something. Do you literally think he’s going to be better than ever or just back to his old pre-foot injury self?
I agree here. Do you really believe that to be true poz? How can you even think that’s remotely possible with him coming off a serious foot injury and turning 32 before the season? Do you honestly believe he’ll get 14 sacks again? He has to do that, at the minimum, to be better than ever!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yea you got me
That’s just something you say right? Like a cliche type of political answer or something. Do you literally think he’s going to be better than ever or just back to his old pre-foot injury self?
I did mean back to his pre foot injury self, I just excited. Am I too optimistic too be expecting a hard working guy like Schobel to register 9-12 sacks?
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3. Kurupt you are officially MRWs opposite. I’ve seen you go through stretches of dispair many times in the past but never anything this sustained and in regards to so many aspects of the team. I know your thinking as you read this "I’m not trying to be negative just realistic" but you have clearly steered onto the path of the non believer. Hang in there buddy sometimes when things look the worst its on the doorstep of victory. Ya gotta believe!
That’s very possible, but totally unintentional. I think it’s because we’ve been talking about the positions I am not as high on as others…QB, DE, LB….If we were talking about RB and WR, my optimistic side would be tickling your fancy, or something.
In regards to Schobel here, if it was super pessimistic, I didn’t mean it to be. I tried to convey how I feel he is an important part of the D and we really need him to stay healthy. I can’t help it if I feel he’s susceptible to re-hurting his foot, whether there’s any basis for that or not. I’ve never thought Schobel was anywhere near an elite pass rusher, so I’m not about to now. I do think he’s very, very underrated in run support. He really doesn’t get the credit he deserves there. If that’s too pessimistic for you, I don’t know what to say!!!!
I’m hoping that because I am so worried about the QB situation and our mediocre D, that they will surprise the crap out of me and become one of the best teams in football. Honestly, I am not really as pessimistic and negative as I seem (at least I think so, cue Roscoe). I am actually pretty optimistic about certain parts of the Bills, although many of you guys cover those areas with your comments. Maybe I’m just trying to be the yin to everyone’s yang, both intentionally and unintentionally. I apologize if my negativity is too much for you guys. Just know, my heart is in the right place!!!!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I don't think you are being overly pessimistic...
if I look at the Bills with a critical eye I see the same things Kurupt does but I generally hope for the best. My rule is it will usually land somewhere between what K says and slightly above what I say. I never am one to go overboard on a guy and say he’s going to be better than he truly can be. I don’t think K goes overboard and bashes a player for no reason. He gets a bad rap for his “I’ll believe it when I see it” talk like about McKelvin and Edwards – but those are perfectly valid points to make about those two guys.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 11, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont think Kurupt is being too pessimistic
Just more pessimistic than alot of other chaps.
I try to be optimistic, but deep down fear that getting too happy about the Bills just means that there is further to fall when they let us down again!!
Football. Bloody Hell!!
Don't think I've ever heard a football fan called a chap.
by Defensewinsgames on Jul 11, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I never am one to go overboard on a guy and say he’s going to be better than he truly can be.
I think that’s what really gets me started!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
And that happens here...
and everywhere else. People set unrealistic expectations. That’s why I changed my sig from Eternal Optimist to Realistic Optimist. I am serenely hopeful about everything about the organization but I’m not delusional.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 11, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I apologize if my negativity is too much for you guys. Just know, my heart is in the right place!!!!
Never too much! Your analysis is always rooted in logic even when I don’t agree. Just pointing out that as we go through this list you’ve been keen on pointing out what could go wrong rather than what could go right. Perhaps its a defense mechanism? I think most likely its got to do with the schedule we’re facing. But you have to admit, its been a good off-season!
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
you’ve been keen on pointing out what could go wrong rather than what could go right
Hey I said if Schobel stays healthy he’ll be our best pass rusher and help the run defense!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
1. My office gave a sweet phone a few months ago and I just realized I can use it to post even as I sit on a crowded bus in traffic. So awesome!
The best part is that you can sit on any toilet and do the same!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I am Just Glad he is back
He brings so much “Right Attitude” with him. The other guys will feed and feed and feed off of it. I just hope he has the opportunity to play longer throughout the season. I recall a sideline conversation he had with a fellow Defensive Lineman. He was commenting on how he got knocked on his can a couple times and beat real good. He would never let up. He would brush it off and get right back at it. His goal was to have the last laugh. His season this year will only be as good as the rest of the units. When I think of Schobel I can’t help but factor in the impact that Williams and Stroud will have and the improvement from Poz. Then new comer Mabin has got to be a difference maker as well. Although we would like to see more from the left side with Kelsey and Ellison, they too should also benifit from the presence and improvement of the entire unit. I am glad Aaron Schobel is back , he wont hurt us, he will help.
kelsay
They should trade kelsays for his weight in shrimp. There is a precident here with it happening in a finish soccer leauge
mmmm shrimp
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think we HAVE TO be realistic about Schobel's injury..
In my opinion a real “team player” would have had the surgery and had it repaired.That particular injury is pretty easy to aggravate so I’m counting on him to give us about 8 games and maybe 4 sacks..I know everyone is real high on the Byrd Man pick too,and though He does have talent,the pick should have gone to shore up the D Line in my opinion anyway..One thing about Schobel being back though..While He’s back the D Line will get more respect in the league instead of just teeing off on Stroud..Maybe Maybin will pick up some slack,but he’s just a rookie and I don’t really expect a Huge Impact right from jump..It’s great that Schobel’s back though and I really DO HOPE his injury is healed properly..If it is we’re in a much better place.At 32 you can’t really expect as much as 3 years ago,but he can carry his own which we can’t say for a couple of other linemen..
by FanFromThe80s on Jul 11, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
I really DO HOPE his injury is healed properly
He participated in most of the voluntary OTAs and all of mandatory mini-camp. He was right around 100% then. He’ll be fine.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 11, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You're saying he's not a team player?
How do you know the team didn’t tell him not to have the surgery? That’s just a ridiculous statement.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 11, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anybody have any information that shows surgury or rest is the better treatment for this Lisfranc foot injury?
As the Bills have invested 10s of millions of dollars in this chap, i guess the treatment they chose for him would be the one with the best track record of producing a 100% recovery.
Football. Bloody Hell!!
Something tells me Schobel would not respond well to being labeled a ``chap''
Guy, beast, athlete, lineman… but not chap. This ain’t rugby.
by Defensewinsgames on Jul 11, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Treatment for a Lisfranc injury depends on the severity of the injury. If the bones have not been forced out of position, you will probably have to wear a cast and refrain from putting weight on the foot for about six weeks. When the cast is removed, you may have to wear a rigid arch support. Your orthopaedist will also recommend foot exercises to build strength and help restore full range of motion.
Often, operative treatment is needed to stabilize the bones and hold them in place until healing is complete. Pins, wires or screws may be used. Afterwards, you will have to wear a cast and limit weightbearing on the foot for six to eight weeks. A walking brace may be prescribed when the fixation devices are removed. You may also have to wear an arch support and a rigid soled shoe until all symptoms have disappeared. In some cases, if arthritis develops in these joints, the bones may have to be fused together.
It is important to follow your doctor’s orders and refrain from activities until you are given the go-ahead. If you return to activities too quickly, you may easily suffer another injury, resulting in damage to the blood vessels, the development of painful arthritis and an even longer healing time.
From the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 11, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh, thats all I got to say there
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But that’s written about your average person who works a 9-5 job in a cubicle. Treatment for a pro athlete could be entirely different than what’s standard.
Since there weren’t any broken bones in the foot, surgery wasn’t completely necessary. Surgery doesn’t realy heal the ligament and he would’ve needed the rest for that anyways. So his bones are healthy and the ligament is healthy. But problems will arise if anything in his foot is even remotely out of place. What would be completely normal and healthy in my foot could be extremely painful for somebody who drives his body into a 300+ pound object over and over again, most days for 5 months.
And athletes aren’t required to follow the diagnosis of his team’s doctors. This was Aaron Schobel’s decision. He probably made the decision that the team medical staff was telling him to make, but it’s very possible that they said that rest would come with more risk than surgery and Schobel decided to roll the dice anyways.
It could also be that fusing his bones would have made it more painful to play in the NFL… I really have no idea..
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
here's a whole write up on lisfranc injuries
Here’s a write up on lisfranc injuries that indicates that only the most severe injuries require surgery and immobilization is the most common treatment.
http://www.footphysicians.com/footankleinfo/lisfranc_injuries.htm
by Polish Lover on Jul 14, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Schobel likes to sack Brady
Schobel has sacked Brady more than any other player in the NFL (its bound to be an afc east player and schobel has been around for the longest stretch). Regardless of the fact that he has essentially been the guy in the right place for that to happen, Schobel still gets it done. That’s why I predict that Schobel takes Brady down in the 2nd quarter of the first game of the year and knocks him out of the game. Pats struggle all year and finish 6-10.
lol
I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
by J2 on Jul 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
6-10 gives them to good of a draft pick.....how about 8-8?
The key to the Bills 2009 season; Can Trent Edwards grow beyond just not being Loseman
they will just trade down anyway. You have to admit it will be pretty entertaining if Brady doesn’t perform well or gets injured and they have to start Kevin O’Connell or Matt Gutierrez. Two players who have thrown a combined 7 passes in the NFL. 6 of those were thrown by O’Connell who appeared in two games last season. In one he produced 25 yards in the other -2. Guiterrez threw one pass in 2007 for 15 yards.
by Polish Lover on Jul 14, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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