Buffalo Rumblings' Countdown to Bills Training Camp
The long, winding, dreary road that is the NFL off-season officially ends tomorrow morning - and we've got our very own Buffalo Bills to thank for it. Bills players will be trickling in to St. John Fisher college all day Friday, and the team will be the first to practice as a full squad (veterans and rookies) when Bills training camp begins on Saturday morning with the first two-a-day of the year.
Drink it in, Bills fans. Football is back.
We've covered the Bills from nearly every angle imaginable this off-season. We thank you for sticking with us. We'll continue to monitor the progress of training camp once it opens tomorrow; our very own MattRichWarren will be on hand to take in practice in person (tweeting updates to us along the way), and we'll have another cool announcement regarding training camp tomorrow as well.
What should y'all be paying attention do during training camp? Most of you have your own agendas, and most Bills fans are keenly aware of the hot issues of the day surrounding the team. There are some players, coaches and positional battles, however, that are worth mentioning in our countdown to training camp. Yes, it's a literal countdown, and we'll be using it as a "viewing guide" of sorts throughout camp. It's after the jump.
5 - Five players you'll hear a LOT about
#1 - QB Trent Edwards. Every perfect throw will be revered. Every skipped pass will cause hearts to do likewise. Over-analysis will run rampant through the fan base. That's just what happens when the collective hopes of an entire city are riding on the brain and right arm of one man. No pressure, Trent.
#2 - WR Terrell Owens. If there's a Bills fan out there who has no idea who Terrell Owens is, you're welcome for listing him here.
#3 - OT Langston Walker. With Jason Peters in Philadelphia, all eyes will be on his replacement, former right tackle Walker. Is he athletic and consistent enough in effort to protect the tough-but-brittle Edwards' blind side? On a line with a lot to prove, the 6'8", 366-pound Walker will be watched the closest.
#4 - DE Aaron Schobel. Clearly Buffalo's most dominant pass rusher of this decade, Schobel returns after missing the majority of 12 games in 2008 with a serious foot injury. Schobel is terribly boring during the pre-season, as he rarely plays during games, but he'll be monitored closely at any rate, particularly if he has to miss any practice time. The eight-year veteran remains the key to not just the team's pass rush, but perhaps the entire defensive scheme as well.
#5 - DE Aaron Maybin. He's likely to miss the start of camp as the team works to get his rookie contract in order. When he does finally hit the field, there will be some excitement. The electric rookie out of Penn State is being asked to add punch to an anemic pass rush, but he's got plenty of questions of his own to answer as well.
4 - Four position battles to monitor
There aren't many positions to iron out this year in camp, but no NFL team will be without training camp competition. These are four battles to monitor throughout the pre-season.
#1 - Left Guard. Four line positions are settled - Walker is the left tackle; Brad Butler is the right tackle; Geoff Hangartner is the center; and once Eric Wood gets to camp, you can bet he'll emerge as the starting right guard. It's not a complete certainty, however, that rookie second-round pick Andy Levitre will be the left guard. Kirk Chambers and/or Seth McKinney might have something to say about that, and it seems likely that one or both will see first-team reps early in camp. If the line displays any sort of cohesiveness with Levitre running with the twos, the coaches might be tempted to let the ones remain the starters heading into the season.
#2 - Tight End. Folks will rip me for leaving rookie Shawn Nelson out of the equation, but let's face it: his role will be specialized in his first year. He's not going to be the every-down tight end. Third-year player Derek Schouman will battle second-year player Derek Fine for that honor; the early money is on Schouman, but don't be shocked if the slightly more talented Fine beats him out by the start of the season.
#3 - SAM linebacker. Widely considered to be the one position that didn't get addressed in a satisfactory way, Keith Ellison remains the incumbent starter at the position - and it's likely to stay that way. Impressive pre-season performances from either Alvin Bowen or Nic Harris, however, might be enough to bump Ellison down the depth chart. Just don't count on it.
#4 - Nickel cornerback. After the free agent departure of Jabari Greer, the Bills moved quickly to bring in veteran Drayton Florence, an accomplished nickel corner in his own right. He'll battle with Ashton Youboty - who got off to a hot start in 2008 before succumbing to injury - and upstart second-year player Reggie Corner, who is coming off of a nice spring. This is clearly the most wide-open battle of camp, as the Bills will likely let the best pre-season performer take nickel duties to start the season. It's difficult to define an early favorite here.
3 - Three important reserves to watch
#1 - QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. In each of his first two seasons, Trent Edwards has missed time due to injury. The odds that we'll see Fitzpatrick taking meaningful regular season snaps are astronomically high; it's a virtual certainty. The speed at which he absorbs Buffalo's evolving playbook is very important - as is, obviously, his overall level of play.
#2 - OT Demetrius Bell. The pressure is currently off of Bell, a second-year tackle project entering just his fifth season of organized football. His potential is enormous, but he's still reportedly quite rough around the edges. He's widely considered the team's future left tackle, and with questions remaining up front, an encouraging pre-season from Bell would be relieving - even if it doesn't result in any playing time.
#3 - LB John DiGiorgio. Buffalo's depth at linebacker is already thin, and far more importantly, it's also inexperienced. Veteran Pat Thomas was added via free agency, which helps the cause, but players like the aforementioned Bowen and Harris, as well as guys like Marcus Buggs and Jon Corto, have little to no NFL experience. DiGiorgio is coming off of a severe knee injury, and it's not certain if he'll be ready for camp. He's a dependable reserve and special teams player, and the sooner he's back in action, the better.
2 - Two positional coaches with their work cut out for them
Buffalo's coaching staff isn't terribly popular. Most will pick apart the decisions of men like Dick Jauron, Perry Fewell, Bobby April and especially Turk Schonert throughout the season. There are two positional coaches, however, working under a severe amount of pressure as well.
#1 - Sean Kugler, offensive line. Entering just his second season as the line coach (he spent 2007 under Jim McNally as an assistant), Kugler gets to oversee perhaps the most massive line overhaul in team history. There's no question that the talent level is solid and there's been a great improvement in blocking demeanor, but there will be kinks that only good, solid coaching can quickly work out.
#2 - Bob Sanders, defensive line. The pass rush has been a hot-button topic for the Bills - in a highly negative way - for at least the past two seasons. Sanders has already made waves by preaching the counter-move and bringing in outside consultants to help with hand usage, and it's no secret that his coaching style is quite different from his predecessors, Bill Kollar and Tim Krumrie. The former Packers defensive coordinator must squeeze more sack production out of his veteran ends, and rookie Maybin is entirely his responsibility as well.
1 - One goal
It's not a taboo word in Buffalo, believe it or not: playoffs. For training camp purposes, one might say "injury-free" or "steady improvement" might be the goal - and while I'd be happy to agree with you on the health part, nothing but the playoffs matters this year. Dick Jauron and the coaching staff have one (last?) shot at ending this franchise's nine-year post-season drought. The talent is undeniable; this is, without a shred of doubt, Jauron's most talented roster. Excuses are very short, for the coaching staff and for the players. This team does have the talent to compete with the big boys. Yes, a lot of questions need to be answered for that to happen. But expectations are high, and that's not unfair. This is the NFL. The playoffs are the goal every year, and the journey begins for the 2009 Buffalo Bills tomorrow morning.
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Chris Ellis. Frankly, I’m not expecting too much from Maybin. I just want to see enough flashes of raw talent to know that it will come. Will Ellis make that second year leap that happens with a lot of guys. It would be a nice bonus.
I also want to know what we have in Bowen. Nobody has any idea, so it will be fun to see.
I would also like to see an open competition for backup quarterback. Fitzpatrick started a bunch of games, but nobody was very impressed. I think Hamden deserves at least the chance to compete.
i can agree with this. ellis is going to need to be a factor in some way – even three or four sacks is enough to make an impact, frankly.
It was also enough to be near the team lead in sacks last year! :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 24, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice overview Brian
I would be lying if it didn’t say it got the juices flowing. Youboty is the clear favorite at nickel if he can stay health. He may find himself on the cut list if he goes down during camp.
If he wins the starting job, Schouman may be the biggest surprise of camp. I was not that impressed with him last year, but if he has put on some pounds to help with blocking and can still be a threat in the passing game, then his relationship with Edwards may be the deciding factor in getting the nod.
Buffalo’s coaching staff isn’t terribly popular. Most will pick apart the decisions of men like Dick Jauron, Perry Fewell, Bobby April and especially Turk Schonert throughout the season.
I can’t think of one time when someone has suggested April doesn’t do a great job……he should not be on that list.
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I tend to think Florence is the clear favorite for the nickel. His contract and past success as a nickel seem indicative of the team’s confidence in him….at least to me.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
could be, but Youbody played very well last season before he got hurt
He looked like the best tackler in the secondary.
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I definitely don't disagree with that...
I thought Youboty was excellent last year. It just appears to me that Florence would be the clear cut favorite right now. Remember, Youboty was barely healthy enough for OTA’s, who knows how much more he has progressed? He might still need some time to get up to 100%….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’m inclined to believe that there isn’t really a clear favorite actually. The team seems pretty confident in Youboty, Corner and Florence. I suspect they’ll all see the field frequently, especially if we’re finally able to get up early on some teams this year.
by PozDispenser on Jul 24, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn't
be more excited, but at the same time not very optimistic….but without hope what the hell would we have?
To be honest, the person I think besides Edwards, Owens and the other key additions I really am going to watch oh so close, is the one and only Dick Jauron. I want to see how he coaches this year. I want to see if he is more aggressive, if he is willing to go outside of his box more, if he feels more comfortable now with the talent he has to work with. I hope after 4 years of building this roster, he is comfortable because they are HIS players.
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
DJ has got to lay it on the line when the season starts. That is plain and simple. But he will need solid play from Edwards in order to take the chances necessary on offense and defense to succeed
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by killascript on Jul 24, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It shouldn’t take a coach 3-4 years for him to see the players as HIS players. That should have happened right away. No doubt about it, but Jauron needs to pull a 180 this year, or maybe a 540 in his case, and take advantage of where our strengths our. Offensive skill position talent means we should really try to open this offense up. He’s got to cut out that conservative predictable crap that Schonert was so fond of last year and make sure the Turk understands what exactly he needs to be doing! No more delegating EVERYTHING!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Great write up
Its basically all I’m thinking about as well. I would suspect that “Club Dick” training camp will continue as it has the past few years with limited contact and a focus on the mental aspects of the game as opposed to the physicality. And in a way, I can’t blame him. Injuries are such a huge factor when determining the success of a team, you wouldn’t want to lose players because you pushed the limits in a practice setting. We will have an extra preseason to do that, plus, these guys are (should be) in top shape, so if that holds true, then we’re good. However, I do expect some hamstring injuries per the usual in any camp, but I expect them from rookies more so than anyone else. Don’t make this an omen, but a player like Byrd, the most out of football work player on the roster that isn’t coming off of injury might get dinged early. Lets all hope for the best, and of course…..Go Bills!
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I don’t think the players would enjoy participating in a “Club Dick”.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Great article, Brian. You covered pretty much everything there.
I think it should also be mentioned that we should be keeping an eye on all players coming off an injury….Schobel, DiGi, Youboty, Hardy, Edwards (shoulder), Stroud?, McGee. We absolutely need to stay relatively healthy and need all these guys, for the most part, to be a full go during the preseason at some point (minus Hardy).
I don’t really have any concern about Fitzpatrick absorbing the playbook. He is a Haahhhhvaaaahhhdd grad after all. I’m more concerned about his Losman-esque play on the field.
Jauron should also have the goal that his team is prepared, both mentally and physically, to play the Patriots in week 1. I’m sick of watching his teams play like a bunch of pansies against the Pats because his conservative and uncreative gameplans do nothing to push the Pats. He needs to make sure this team is mentally TOUGH for once, and it starts in week 1.
I really hope we start to hear a little more about Hangartner. Talk about the forgotten lineman! I hope we hear positives and how he’s neutralizing Stroud and Williams in one on one’s….
I’d also add a ZERO to your countdown as in, zero arrests and off the field incidents. I’m looking at you Marshawn, Tasey Taserton and any hoopla surrounding TO!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I really thought that one was going to stick, but it hasn’t….yet
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
You might!
I hope one sticks now!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It needs to incorporate part of the name, IMO
like Dontase Twitchner
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by Joe P. on Jul 24, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the way, we still have FIVE unsigned rookies, including a 4th rounder who’s contract parameters has been in place for a week now. Anthony Hill, the player picked right after Nelson, and also a TE signed his contract with the Texans last week. You mean to tell me that the Bills and Nelson can’t get the deal done now?
121. Buffalo (fr. PHI) – TE, Shawn Nelson, Missouri
122. Houston (fr. MIN) – TE, Anthony Hill, North Carolina State – Signed (4-years, $2.206M; $456,500 signing bonus)
Get it done already!!!!!
Jairus Byrd’s deal has the parameters in place too. Darius Butler, another DB, was picked right before Byrd and has had his deal done for weeks now.
(Of course Nelson’s deal will probably get done within the hour and I’ll have to retract this!)
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It takes time to pinch pennies into dust.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahahahaha!
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by thefourwinds on Jul 24, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
JUST WINN BABY WINN!!!!
Saturday Saturday Saturday – 7 months of waiting is over. The NEW Buffalo Bills are coming to a town near youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaahhh. (I could totally be a monster truck commentator)
What I’m looking for in camp:
1) O-line (Captain Obvious thinks so at least)
2) Trent – he’ll be fine – but I’d like to see if he goes downfield more – also some good anticipation would be great to see. Throw it into tight windows – take some risks.
3) Turnovers – whether they be INT’s or FF’s – I want the D to get after some balls this year.
4) 4th WR position – I really want to see if its giong to be Roscoe or Johnson – my moneys obviously on Johnson because of size – but I’d like to see Roscoe get used more.
5) Byrd – is he really a ball hawk?
6) Pass Rush – Schobel/Maybin obviously – but also how our tackles respond to Maybin’s speed – I think he’ll be good practice for Walker/Butler.
7) McCargo – is he a bust? we’ll know after this year – maybe after the preseason….
8) How’s Dominic Rhodes looking?
9) Schonerts plays – not necessarily play calling – but plays in general. There are routes that WR’s can run that will always be open at certain times – call them often please.
10) this is more of a preseason than pratice note – but Bobby Aprils adjustment to the “wall” rule they put in – how is he going to take advantage of that and also protect our runners?
11) Moorman get back into his top awesome form?
12) I’ll be watching the Jills competition very closely – very important here (right Joe?)
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Best time of the year
I’ll be watching the Jills competition very closely – very important
for that….you know…..before they put on their snow suits :-)
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
Had a quick question about Langston Walker
It seemed that an issue last year was having to committ a TE or RB to blocking, taking away one of Trent’s favorite outlets, the short to intermediate pass. With the emergence of Marshawn Lynch/Fred Jackson (or Dominic Rhodes) as a pass catching RB tandem and Josh Reed moving back to the slot it seems Trent will have his intermediate to underneath throwing options.
So my question is do we have to worry so much about Walker struggling if we know we can committ a TE without hampering the underneath to intermediate passing game.
by MichiganBillsFan84 on Jul 24, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
well we can also commit a TE – but after a few seconds have him leak out and go underneath – same with RB’s
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by J2 on Jul 24, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
that is fine on downs that are not obvious passing downs or if we don't intend to throw a pass over 10 yds.
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
If you follow on twitter you get the updates as they happen! www.twitter.com/mattrichwarren There ya go, K. :-)
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Would you put that twitter link in a Fanpost or something to it is easier to find :-)
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I'll be at the afternoon practice tomorrow
I wish I could be at the AM practice, as it’s certain to be a circus like no other Bills camp ever has, but I must complete bricks training first.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 24, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
I will be in a faded red Bills hat...
and have my Bills T Shirt on… very specific, I know.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 24, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be the guy who looks like he just ran a brick session.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 24, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
what is that???
I park at Calkins and I will be with my hot wife. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 25, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
good call......bring the hot wife and leave the other one at home :-)
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
I’m going to keep an eye on McCargo early. I agree with J2 that we’ll know sooner than later if he’s a bust. I’m hoping he comes in this year with a renewed commitment and ready to prove to all he was worth his pick. He has shown signs of greatness in his play but it’s been spotty at best. One can only hope.

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