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The Buffalo Bills opened 2009 training camp with two practices, some roster moves, and a few instant talking points. Head on in past the jump to get into the discussions - and if it's pictures of camp you're looking for, click that picture of QB Trent Edwards above for a full set of AP photos from today's practices.

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Before the Bills even hit the practice field on Monday, they were short three players after waiving LB John DiGiorgio (failed physical) and placing receivers James Hardy and C.J. Hawthorne on the active PUP list.  Hardy and Hawthorne are eligible to return to the active roster at any point (and both are expected to be cleared to practice soon), but if DiGiorgio's Bills career is to continue, he'll have to clear waivers.  Either way, he won't be playing again until 2010 after undergoing a second procedure on his surgically repaired knee.

Once the Bills hit the field, the team performed just as you'd expect a team to perform after not playing football for six weeks - they were rusty and streaky.  This was particularly true at the quarterback position.

Our very own MattRichWarren was at both practices today, noting that starting QB Trent Edwards was "off" throughout the day, making some good throws but missing several receivers as well.  Backups Ryan Fitzpatrick, Gibran Hamdan and Matt Baker didn't fare much better, as all four tossed interceptions on the day.

There was some good news, however - Edwards and WR Terrell Owens appeared to have a bit of chemistry, as most of Edwards' throws to Owens were for productive gains.  (S Donte Whitner did intercept an Edwards pass intended for Owens, however.) The trend with training camp is that the offense usually starts out slow, particularly with a young quarterback and some new personnel.  Rust was expected; it's nowhere near time to panic yet.

Keeping track of the offensive line
We'll have this little section in each practice recap that we put together; today's "installment" will be rather boring, however, as two projected starters on Buffalo's line have yet to report to camp in rookie guards Eric Wood and Andy LevitreKirk Chambers filled in at left guard between Langston Walker and Geoff Hangartner; the line was completed by veteran Seth McKinney at right guard and Brad Butler at right tackle.  No surprises.

Four rookies still unsigned
Due to some logistical (i.e. travel) issues, rookie TE Shawn Nelson was not able to make the morning session, as he had not yet signed the contract that was finalized on Friday night.  He signed today and practiced this afternoon.  Buffalo's top four rookies - the aforementioned Wood and Levitre, as well as DE Aaron Maybin and S Jairus Byrd - remain unsigned.  Our very own krytime spoke briefly with Byrd today, who was "bummed" about not being on the field, and hopeful something would get done soon.  (Feel free to ask kry about his general impressions of Byrd in the comments section.)

Tracking positional battles
TE: Derek Schouman was the first to rotate through with the first team, but he and Derek Fine split reps pretty equally throughout the day.  Schouman has a slight edge at the moment, but there's a lot of camp left, and Fine is universally considered slightly more talented.

SLB: Keith Ellison ran with the ones, and that's not likely to change any time soon.  Nic Harris ran with the twos at SAM, with undrafted rookie free agent Ashlee Palmer running on the weak side.  Jon Corto was the third-team SAM linebacker, with Alvin Bowen weak on the same unit.  It's quickly turning into a two-horse battle between Ellison and Harris (as expected), but we don't think Ellison is going anywhere.  (Keep your eyes on Palmer, too - he had a good day, as did Buffalo's linebacker unit as a whole.)

Nickel CB: Reggie Corner ran through first.  Ashton Youboty ran through second.  Drayton Florence got most of his reps on the outside, but that's likely to change as he gets a firmer grasp on the defense.  Corner has a much better shot at holding onto this job than most give him credit for, but my money is still in Florence in the long run.

Injuries
We've mentioned Hardy and Hawthorne; DE Ryan Denney got poked in the eye, but returned quickly, and DT Marcus Stroud tweaked a hamstring, eventually getting pulled from practice.  There's a good chance he'll be held out for a day or two just to make sure he's completely healthy.

Y'all can read highlights elsewhere, but honestly, don't put much stock in them.  It's nice to see some defenders making plays, particularly Paul Posluszny, Donte Whitner and Leodis McKelvin.  We're going to need those guys to deliver.  Right now, however, if you're looking for a little optimism, the team practiced with good energy and good pacing.  Steady improvement is the name of the game now.

Buffalo has two more practices tomorrow, which will bring their two-a-day sessions to an end.

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Bummer bout Digi.........

but maybe thats a blessing for Corto.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, not Corto… Marcus Buggs and Pat Thomas. They’re taking the reps at MLB behind Poz with the twos and threes, respectively.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but with one LB now out of the mix (and Digi could have played any of the three positions)

It makes the chances for Corto staying on the team better……

but in no way did I mean as the MLB…….Corto’s way to small for that.,

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 25, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Thomas probably has to be a lock now. Harris is pretty close to a lock and Bowen making the team is more than probable. That leaves Buggs, Palmer and Corto battling for the 7th LB spot and it wouldn’t be at all surprising to see Corto win the job.

by kaisertown on Jul 25, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do buggs and palmer have PS eligibility?

by the_prophet on Jul 26, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Palmer is an undrafted free agent from this year so he definitely does. Not sure about Buggs.

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by sireric on Jul 26, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Buggs has practice squad eligibility. He’s only in year two.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’d think they’d stash one of the two on the PS, but i doubt both will go there. if our starting MLB was old, then that’d make sense to have one on the team and one on the squad, but with poz as young as he is i doubt they’d keep three potential players at one position.

by the_prophet on Jul 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll keep an eye on Stroud tomorrow. Anything else you want me to look at, just let Brian know and he can get a hold of me.

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McCargo

I’m really interested in how J, McCargo is looking this year. I’m hoping he comes to camp with a renewed commitment to play NFL football. What a tremendous boost it would be for the defense if he played up to his potential.

by Blaise42 on Jul 25, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

especially of Stroud really hurt a hammy and just doesn't feel like doing two-a-days.

"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde

by Joe P. on Jul 25, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am hoping Bob Sanders can bring something out in McCargo. He has the talent, I don’t think anyone doubts that. We just need him to become reliably consistent, and to me that can be coached.

by Buffalonian on Jul 25, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, John McCargo is an interesting story to follow during camp, as he needs to have a better camp than last year to even make the team. It’s just disappointing how little he has shown the last three years, especially considering his tremendous potential. We need him to be more consistent and more productive.

As far as the Trent and the offense goes, then it’s not exactly surprising that they were a bit rusty. That’s the general consensus every year, as the guys need time to click. With time, I believe our offense will, indeed, flourish and click, but let’s see the next couple of days how they evolve…

I found it encouraging to hear that a lot of our pivotal defenders (Poz, Whitner, Leo) all made plays, which is just what we need from them, as they’re being counted on as playmakers this upcoming season.
I’m a bit surprised that Alvin Bowen is running with the third-unit at LB, but that must be a sufficial indication that they at least for now prefer Nic Harris over Bowen. One can hope that Nic Harris gives weak Ellison a run for his money, because Ellison is, as we all know, a liability on defense.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jul 26, 2009 3:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will keep an eye on McCargo today. Unless they put pads on, though, it won’t tell me a whole lot.

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 26, 2009 7:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question about Byrd for krytime

Did u ask about what his father thinks about missing time in camp with a contract dispute im sure in his day things happened a little different for rookies

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by BRIANMULHALL on Jul 26, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Naw. Didn’t get a chance for that. We just made some small talk..

by krytime on Jul 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(S Donte Whitner did intercept an Edwards pass intended for Owens, however.)

Hold on….what?!?!?!? Is this a sign of things to come, or will he return to his typical self? I wonder if they stopped practice to commemorate the moment?

~K
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by Kurupt on Jul 26, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't get too excited.

He had stone hands in position drills. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 26, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he kept the ball?

"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde

by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did post a tweet pic about it...

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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