Edwards, offense rebound on day two of Bills camp
After a rusty start to 2009 Buffalo Bills training camp, Trent Edwards and Buffalo's offense rebounded on day two, making plenty of big plays through the air and looking much more cohesive in general. Another rookie has signed as well. The news wasn't all positive, however, as the Bills did lose two players to injury - one of them perhaps for the season. Jump in for day two's recap - and if you're looking for photos, see the below post or click on that picture above (which, by the way, proves that the play-action pass exists in Buffalo).
Perhaps the most important news of the day was Buffalo's signing rookie OG Andy Levitre to a contract. Levitre will become the second of five Bills rookies to hit the practice field after the start of camp when he takes the field Monday; color us curious to see how he's rotated in at left guard, where Kirk Chambers has been taking first-team reps. With Levitre in the fold, three rookies (DE Aaron Maybin, OG Eric Wood and FS Jairus Byrd) remain unsigned. All are expected to be in camp by the end of this coming week.
Worth noting from the field, re: quarterbacks
Trent Edwards was a little off on Saturday, throwing several bad passes along with his big ones. That changed Sunday, as Edwards repeatedly made good throws and appeared to quickly knock the rust off.
Edwards hit at least five passes of twenty yards or longer in the morning session, including three to Terrell Owens - one of which was a 50-yard scoring strike. Trent's hot hand continued into the afternoon workout, as he hooked up with Lee Evans on a 40-yard bomb that Evans caught over two defenders.
When an offense is making big plays, someone on your defense is getting victimized. Today, it was second-year CB Leodis McKelvin. To his credit, he also made a few plays himself on Saturday (and had a pass break-up today); his coverage assignment isn't exactly easy, either, no matter who he's lining up across.
Buffalo's backup quarterbacks continue to struggle, however. We've heard that they were a bit more crisp than they were on Saturday, particularly in the afternoon session, but Ryan Fitzpatrick and Gibran Hamdan are still quite erratic. MattRichWarren, who covered camp for Buffalo Rumblings all weekend, noticed that Edwards was throwing from three-step drops quite frequently. Most will point to a re-structured line as the reason for that wrinkle, but we're willing to bet the backups have a bit to do with it as well. We need Trent healthy.
Schonert tinkering with offensive personnel
With a wealth of talent at his disposal, offensive coordinator Turk Schonert has begun tinkering with his personnel to try to create mismatches. We'd already seen RB Fred Jackson and TE Shawn Nelson lined up in the slot in mini-camps; that continued today, with another TE, Derek Schouman, joining them there. Meanwhile, Roscoe Parrish worked with the second-unit receivers ahead of Steve Johnson, proof that Schonert hasn't forgotten about his ultra-quick receiving option. Parrish made some nice receptions on the day.
Johnson, meanwhile, continued to impress, even while working with lower units. He caught a long scoring pass from Fitzpatrick, and has made a few nice grabs over the first four practices.
While tight ends Schouman and Fine continue to duke it out for the starting role at the position, it's worth noting that Nelson took some reps with the first-team offense, lining up on the line. Buffalo has always been a team that likes to use multiple tight ends, so don't expect the starter to be much more than a figurehead. Don't sleep on Jonathan Stupar, either - he's flashed some potential over the first two days of practice, and he could find a role as a fourth tight end and a specialist, particularly if Corey McIntyre can't hold onto his tenuous fullback job.
There was a defense, too...
For a second straight day, Bills defenders were able to create a little pressure on the quarterback as defensive coordinator Perry Fewell began installing some blitz packages. Keep in mind that in a padless practice and with an incomplete offensive line, any pass rushing success should be taken with a boulder of salt. Still, pass rush is pass rush - now we just need to keep it going.
Rookie cornerback Ellis Lankster had an interception. Ko Simpson picked off a pass deflected by Drayton Florence. Perhaps most encouragingly, however, second-year DE Chris Ellis had a good day, showing off a bit of strength in blocking drills and registering a few quarterback hurries. Anything we can get out of Chris Ellis is going to be huge this season.
April tweaking return units
With the NFL changing special teams rules this off-season, prohibiting wedge blocking with more than three players, special teams coordinator Bobby April has begun installing his new return schemes. MRW explains that on return units, April is using smaller blockers, with a "spread" wedge formation that includes two groups of two blockers a few yards apart, with a fifth blocker filling the middle of the gap solo.
As our very own kaisertown points out, we're likely to see some rough moments from the special teams units this pre-season on returns, as coordinators will be pushing the limits to see how officials call penalties with the new rules. April, however, seems to have a pretty firm grasp on what he'd like to accomplish right now.
Keeping track of the offensive line
No changes from Saturday - Langston Walker, Kirk Chambers, Geoff Hangartner, Seth McKinney and Brad Butler made up the first unit from left to right. With Levitre on board (and Eric Wood likely soon to follow), the real intrigue begins with Monday's practice. It will be quite interesting to chart how the rookie guards are rotated in. We'll get our first glimpse of the coaching staff's plans in that regard tomorrow.
Injuries
Head coach Dick Jauron told the media that DT Marcus Stroud (hamstring) may miss 5-7 days of practice, but that his injury is minor and his absence is a precautionary measure. The news is dismal, however, for reserve RB Justise Hairston, who was likely lost for the season after sustaining a freak, no-contact knee injury on Saturday morning.
Buffalo is now officially done with two-a-days; their first pads practice comes on Monday. Matt is taking the day off from reporting, but fear not - we'll have you covered. And if you're going to camp, we'd love to hear more first-hand accounts!
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Postitive Progess is always good..........
thanks for the recap
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 26, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL did you really read all that in 3 minutes? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 26, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heck yeah I did.....
I refresh this page like every 2 min……….its a slow work day.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 26, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, so you are where our 12,000 page views came from today. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 26, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I've only been at work since 1:30pm PST
so I doubt it was all me.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 26, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might have had some hand in that. REALLY SLOW work day.
and I’m completely addicted to Bills coverage and you are hands down numero uno.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jul 26, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. That won where TO is walking away from Trent.
“Hey TO! Where you going? I just asked Jason Witten a question about… ummm… fishing! That’s all! FISHING!”
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jul 26, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was supposed to be a reply to Joe P.’s below.
Stupid internet.
Stupid Al Gore.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jul 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!! at both posts :-)
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happned to the caption contest?
Some of these pics are comic gold!!!!
Is it me, or has news on the Walker front been hard to come by. I know they are not in pads, but how does he look?
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
your sig is too much.......
lol
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 26, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to thank abayarde for that...... If BR had a wall of fame for posts, that one gets in first try.
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wish it did have a Hall of Fame on here. Abayarde would be batting a thousand…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 26, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his comments are like those movies you need to see two or three times, and as you do, they just keep getting better and better…
by krytime on Jul 26, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially since even Jamie Dukes would have a tough time firing down a gross (12 dozen = 144) of donuts…
by Ron From NM on Jul 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Jamie Nails can…
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Jul 27, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walker has looked fine to me.
He looks like he is getting out of his stance fast. Butler, too, for good measure. Without pads, though, it’s tough to tell anything concrete.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 26, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is early, but still good news. Thanks Matt
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that pic of jauron totally makes him look like one of those wannabe hunters in the australian outback with a real guide somewhere nearby.
evans looks like he didn’t sleep well last night, and schobel looks like he’s a little bound up in his picture.
by the_prophet on Jul 26, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the pic of T.O. and Edwards talking
T.O. – You threw that ball like a B@#%^
Edwards – Well, at least I didn’t get punked by one on National TV.
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McKelvin
If McKelvin doesn’t develop a confidence problem, I think he’s going to develop tremendously after having to constantly cover TO and Lee. No breaks for him in practice should mean much better development for him.
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by thefourwinds on Jul 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i agree. I think the hope for McKelvin to become a big time playmaker for us is a reality and these practices sessions against T.O. & Lee should boost his swagger and confidence.
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by MARVelous on Jul 26, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the recap. We’ve still got to take some of it with a grain of salt until the pads are on and poppin’.
I cannot believe they are already done with two-a-days. For a team that has had not mental toughness over the last decade, they sure could have used these. Jauron had the chance to get all this extra work in, let’s hope he doesn’t give us his same old, tired excuses of not being ready.
It’s good to hear Edwards throwing it well. Hope that continues throughout camp and the preseason leading into the season. We need him ready and on point to start the year. Picking up early confidence and building a strong rapport with TO and the receivers is a great thing.
No surprise that Fitzpatrick is struggling. I really wish we had gone after someone better than him for our backup QB position. I just hope he never has to play, because we’re going to be in trouble if he does.
I’m thinking Ellis is going to surprise this year. For everyone who called him a bust after a rookie season, I hope he proves his worth this year. His talent is there, but he wasn’t ready last year. It appears he’ll have an opportunity to make some noise this year, and I think he just might. I hope he does, so we can get him on the field, and someone else off it!!!
Anybody else really love that sized photo for the articles? I think it’s great and rather cool looking.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 26, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't notice until you mentioned the photo
Yeah, it’s really quite slick.
I’m in Ellis’ and McCargo’s corner. McCargo looks slimmer in that pick with Kugler. I really think they have the potential to make some things happen this year and spell our starters with minimal drop off. I think the fresher we are, the more effective our pass rush will be.
I think that entire pack of pictures should be numbered for a caption fest. Too much potential comedy not to.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Jul 26, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take everything with a grain of salt until preseason games. Edwards making throws downfield is nice during practice, but we’ll see if that keeps happening when it counts. As long as he stays confident, he should be able to carry these big plays into the regular season.
The photo does look great.
I loved the Ellis pick last year. He’s certainly got the talent to make an impact.
I’m not surprised about the lack of 2 a days. They’ve got an extra week to practice. Although a normal coach would turn up the hitting and conditioning to make up for the lack of long days and that doesn’t seem like something that Jauron is going to do.
by kaisertown on Jul 26, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this photo size, too. I try to use it as often as possible.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 27, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a team that has had not mental toughness over the last decade, they sure could have used these
At first glance, I’d agree here. But then I think, there’s got to be other ways to build mental toughness. I’m gonna hem and haw on this one. I see where you’re going, but I’m not sure I’m in total agreement.
I just hope he never has to play, because we’re going to be in trouble if he does.
Can we just try and avoid this subject? I hate the thought of it…
For everyone who called him a bust after a rookie season,
I’ve been a vocal Ellis basher, but I never labeled him as a bust yet. When he was called out for not putting in the effort last camp, that got under my skin. Alleged character issues were a catalyst for that as well. I just never heard anything good about him, and so he felt my wrath. I’d be thrilled if the dude made some progress in his first off season. Maybe a positional coaching change will help as well (even if the picture of him up above with coach Sanders really depicts him as being disinterested). I’ve been hoping we get better play from the DL as a whole due to a healthy Stroud/Schoebel, a little Maybin, a bounce back from McCargo, and even a little more Spencer Johnson. Maybe Chris Ellis will be the guy who actually does the trick?
Is there anyone on the roster getting more of an education everyday than Leo?
MRW explains that on return units, April is using smaller blockers, with a “spread” wedge formation that includes two groups of two blockers a few yards apart, with a fifth blocker filling the middle of the gap solo.
By the way MRW – awesome job on the twitter feeds. Thanks!
Anyway, doesn’t that seem more dangerous than just a three man wedge? I have a lot of faith in April. My hunch is that Buffalo comes out of camp with a much better grasp of the new rules then most teams will, and a better plan of attack that might really come in handy at the beginning of the season.
by krytime on Jul 26, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bobby April is a freaking ST genius
How long before someone offers him a OC or HC job. Any chance he is happy being a ST genius?
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 26, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
possible DJ replacement mid season
Depending on how we do early on.
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by NYTXFAN on Jul 26, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At first glance, I’d agree here. But then I think, there’s got to be other ways to build mental toughness. I’m gonna hem and haw on this one. I see where you’re going, but I’m not sure I’m in total agreement.
There are definitely other ways to build mental toughness, and it’s not even a guarantee that more two-a-days would even help. However, I look at it this way. What we’ve been doing hasn’t worked (easy camps), so maybe it’s time to try something different. I’ve always been a fan of the idea that playing through adversity (two-a-days, in heat, tired legs) is a major benefit for when things turn difficult during the season. That’s why I’m looking for ways to toughen this team up.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 27, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Normally I'd agree with you
With the extra week of practice, I can see why pacing themselves would be a good idea. With that being said I don’t think easy camps have borne fruit so, yeah, something different is in order.
by Ron From NM on Jul 27, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to help...
it was fun and made practice easier to watch.
Ellis was out before practice signing autographs. He also picked up Nelson on one play and hip tossed him. Hopefully his strength is there now.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 27, 2009 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not surprising to see guys lining up all over the field on offense. You need to do that kind of stuff for the no huddle to work. What advantage do you get rushing to the line if your just going to line up the same way over and over again. But Buffalo can put both RBs and a TE on the field and line up with a single back and four guys at WR on first down, hurry up to the line, put a TE inline and both RBs in the backfield and show run. You can give a lot of different looks with 2 TEs on the field too. The more ways they can line up, the tougher the no huddle will be on opposing defenses.
by kaisertown on Jul 26, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to ask MRW these questions…
How did Bell look at OT? Anything of note from him?
What kind of line up was used when Trent went with a three step drop?
Who were the guys paired together on the two man wedges? Is that going to be an official depth chart listing now? Who were the kamikaze guys in the middle of those wedges?
Does McCargo look in shape compared to last year?
Who’s the resident loudmouth at assistant coach now that Kollar is gone?
How many TO cereal boxes did you see?
Was there a heavy national media presence there?
Who was the biggest autograph signer?
Who shocked you on the eye ball test?
by krytime on Jul 26, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing really on the Bell front. He was putting in some extra work with Kugler after the morning practice. Look for reports from today or tomorrow when they put the pads on. I won’t be there today, though. I would really like to see the O Line today but I gotta work til noon.
The three step drops were on like crossing routes and quick outs to the WRs. They were out of the no huddle at the time but that doesn’t preclude them from using it in other spots.
As I said in the tweet, they are using smaller guys on the front line of the “wedge”. Jenkins, linebackers, Wendling. The big guy on the first team was Spencer Johnson. Behind him was Freddy and McKelvin returning. The intermediate guys were the Dereks and someone else. I also don’t remember the exact pairings.
McCargo looked in shape. He was just underwhelming in drills. He hit his knees a few times when the other guys were fighting through it. As I said with the OL we’ll have to see this week how he does with pads on.
Kugler was being pretty vocal with his guys. That being said he wasn’t a hard guy, just vocal. Bobby April and his megaphone commands respect.
I saw one box of T.O.‘s. I’m sure there were more.
There was not as big of a media presence as I thought there was going to be. The only national guy I saw was Tim Graham. The photogs I have no idea where they were from for the most part. The only guys with cameras were Buffalo and Rochester TV stations. Saw John Murphy and Paul Hamilton from WGR. That’s about it. Nothing crazy at all.
Alvin Bowen signed for more than a half hour after the morning practice. Chris Ellis signed for about a half hour before practice. Wendling signed a bunch, too, as did Scuba Steve. Poz signed in a different place after each practice, too.
Who shocked me on the eyeball test? Brian Moorman. I know… he’s great. But I have only ever seen his kicks from high in the stands or on TV. The height on those suckers is unbelievable! Other candidates for now are probably Rhodes with his speed and all the TEs looked really good from the Dereks to Stupar to Nelson. Corey McIntyre should be worried that Stupar will be taking his job.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 27, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby April and his megaphone commands respect.
Bobby April and his results command respect, megaphone or no.
by Ron From NM on Jul 27, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the answers Matt. Much appreciated..
by krytime on Jul 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to do it.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always good hear that McCargo and Ellis are doing well, because if we could get just a little production out of those two underachievers, then we should be pleased.
In terms of our backup QB’s, it’s starting to worry me a little, because we all know the importance of having a good and somewhat trusty backup QB, who can be a game-manager. Right now, I don’t exactly believe – barring any drastic improvement by Fitzpatrick and Hamdan – that they go under that concrete category. Signing Brian Griese would be a very smart move in my opinion, because he’s a proven backup with a lot of starting experience.
I like hearing how Shawn Nelson is being utilized by Schonert, as he’s our by far most athletic TE on the team and is a ridiculous athlete. Hopefully, we can capitalize on his athletic capabilities when the season begins…
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jul 27, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schouman is looking good split out as well.
And you are right about the QBs. If Fitzy and Hamdan keep playing this poorly even I’m gonna get worried.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 27, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though Brian Griese is nothing special, I would take him in a heartbeat over Fitzpatrick.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how it will turn out by the start of the season, but give Fitzpatrick some time for right now. QB has by far the most stuff to learn, especially when switching teams, especially when you’re a backup coming into a new system and they’re not going to mold any of the offensive schemes to what you like to do.
I can’t say much, because I don’t know what the consensus is by pro scouts, but he’s an Ivy Leaguer and he didn’t have much to work with last year in Cincy. Hopefully he’ll learn quickly and have some more weapons here. So I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
by WhyBillsWhy on Jul 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with you if Edwards wasn't so injury prone
Bring in Griese and let let him fight it out with Fitz for the #2 spot. Cut Hammy.
"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde
by Joe P. on Jul 27, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Hammy needs to stop taking up a roster spot.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how it will turn out by the start of the season, but give Fitzpatrick some time for right now.
For some reason, I watched a lot of Bengals games last year and Fitzpatrick was pretty brutal to watch. He’s a horrible decision maker and has a lot of Losman in him. He is a good running QB, which is about where I’d end the positives….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though Brian Griese is nothing special, I would take him in a heartbeat over Fitzpatrick.
Completely agreed.
by krytime on Jul 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griese would be a good insurance package for Trent, but if Trent gets hurt then it could be a very long year for us Bills fans. The season that Matt Cassel had last year was basically an exception in this league and he had a lot of things going for him that made the transition a little easier:
a) NE has great weapons (so do we now)
b) Their O-line is experienced and has played together for numerous years
c) Their defense won a lot of ball games for them last year so Cassell didnt have to be perfect in a lot of games and could manage the games
d) he was on the team for a number of years and knew the system inside and out which is something that none of our QB’s have the advantage of.
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