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Around the AFC East: Ranking the division's quarterbacks

With NFL training camps opening league-wide over the next several days, the four AFC East bloggers of SB Nation - Matty I at The Phinsider, MaPatsFan at Pats Pulpit, and John B at Gang Green Nation - have decided that this will be the final week of Around the AFC East for the summer.  Don't cry, folks; we'll be seeing plenty of them throughout the regular season.  These are our most bitter rivals, after all.

We'll end this year's festivities with a ranking of the division's quarterbacks.  Where does Buffalo Bills signal-caller Trent Edwards fit in?  You'll have to jump for our answer, and travel for my peers'.

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1.  Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. Duh.  Even if we wanted to do this ranking based on quarterback depth charts - which we're not factoring in heavily, because where's the point in that? - New England still comes up at the top.  Brady is arguably the best quarterback in the game.  He's a perfect fit for that team and that offensive philosophy.  He's the quintessential leader.  Blah blah blah blah blah.

2.  Chad Pennington and the Miami Dolphins.  I tried to talk myself into being a homer and ranking the Bills here, but then I just laughed at myself.  Even though he has only ever played for teams I despise, I have always had a profound respect for Pennington's game and the way he handles himself.  His reputation is that of "game manager," and his arm strength is a running joke, but the guy is consistent to a fault, accurate beyond belief, and capable of leading any team deep into the playoffs.  It helps to have a talented youngster waiting in the wings (Chad Henne).

3.  Trent Edwards and the Buffalo Bills.  Y'all know that I'm a big Edwards fan.  Everything I'm hearing about Edwards coming out of camp this year is pretty much expected - he's got a great grasp on the offense, but his throws are still a bit inconsistent.  He's been making a lot of plays through the air with his shiny new toys at receiver.  I firmly believe that he's in line to have a great season, regardless of how the team performs in the standings.  However, health issues and being largely unproven make it impossible to rank him ahead of an established, consistent veteran like Pennington.  There is nothing like a proven commodity at quarterback.  Edwards is certainly not that.  Not yet, at least.

4.  Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets.  Right now, Kellen Clemens is listed as the top quarterback on New York's depth chart, but let's face it - Rex Ryan is operating under the belief that he can replicate the Ravens' success with rookie Joe Flacco in 2008 this year with Sanchez at the helm in New York.  If Trent Edwards wasn't so promising, I might have considered bumping Sanchez up the list - I think he's going to be that good in the NFL.  But he's vastly inexperienced, even for a rookie quarterback, and he's proven as much in the NFL as I have.  He ranks fourth, but he and the Jets will, unfortunately, be fine in the long run.

Agree? Disagree? Let us know, and then let us know what you think of the rankings of The Phinsider, Pats Pulpit and Gang Green Nation as well!

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Well… that squashes any possible debate. We keep our rankings secret, but even I was a little surprised that Matty I, MaPatsFan and John B all posted THE EXACT same rankings. (I guess it’s pretty cut and dry.)

Still, hop on over to read the comments. There’s some good outsider feedback on No. 5 to absorb.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2009 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

So...what now?

Ya know, I really hate the Bills’ uniforms!! ;-)

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by MaPatsFan on Jul 31, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

You won’t get any argument on that topic either.

If the glove don’t fit, it couldn’t be Whit...

by thatguy34 on Jul 31, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their normal uniforms make me think the Vikings’ don’t look half bad.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 31, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think most of us want the throwbacks to become the permanant unis? Our current ones look like pijama’s!… still not as bad as the Bengal’s thow.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 1, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m really quite surprised. I would have thought one (Gang Green) if not more would have placed Sanchez higher up and as Matty I put it:

blow sunshine up your butt like the media has been doing and talk about how great Mark Sanchez is going to be.

I personally don’t think he or Henne are going to be very good QBs, but alas, it’s is far too early to really speculate.

Interesting thoughts by MaPatsFan on TE. Hope he’s right.

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by thatguy34 on Jul 31, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Henne will be better then Sanchez in the long run.

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by sireric on Jul 31, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think what gives Henne a better shot is having Pennington as a mentor.

It’s been documented that he’s been a huge help for Henne in learning the ins and outs of the NFL.

by Matty I on Jul 31, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Cassel carried Brady’s clipboard for three years. That can’t hurt.

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by MaPatsFan on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

With that kind of logic, who needs Mark Sanchez when you have Kellen Clemens who was under the brilliant tutelage of Chad Pennington for a couple years!

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by willgarr15 on Jul 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

See heres the difference, Henne actually has talent for him to build on. Clemens? well…

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 1, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus Henne doesn’t have the NY media slobbering all over him. Sanchez is an awesome QB because he speaks Spanish!!!
Not only did Henne play more in college, but he had better numbers. Sanchez looked average at best until that bowl game against PSU (sorry John). After that game he was all of a sudden a top ten pick. Give him a year and everyone will think he is the next coming of Browning Nagle, just with a weaker arm.

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by sireric on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or just as bad, the next coming of Matt Leinert. There’s one player that doesn’t seem as if he’d have been a better pick than Whitner in 2006.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 31, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you very much

for not focusing too much attention to that guy @ the top of the list. yuckcity.

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by chrislucas on Jul 31, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Disagree with this list

I think Trent Edwards is number one.

First – he eat’s Buffalo Wing’s – if that isn’t a sterioid then I don’t know what is
Second – he lived in California – he’s survived earth quakes – enough said
Third – his CPU is Neurnet Processor – a learning computer
Fourth – Could Tom Brady even drive in WNY? – Chances are he has a rear wheel drive vehicle – not very good traction in the snow there Tom!
Fifth – Didn’t I see him ice fishing on Lake Erie last January? Good luck seeing Tom and his pedicures and manicures fishing on Lake Erie.
Sixth – He’s Trent Freaking Edwards – should there even be a debate?

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by J2 on Jul 31, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to disagree with one thing:

It snows way more than you might think in Foxboro, Mass. Way more. I bet Brady wouldn’t blink in a Lake Erie storm.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 31, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Brady wouldn’t blink in a Lake Erie storm.

I know – he’d be scared! White nuckled driving is what I call it

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by J2 on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I hate to admit it, but I can’t find anything to hate about Tom Brady – other than the fact that he plays for the Patriots. Grrr.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU CAN'T?!?!

What about his male modeling? (Sanchez is doing his best to catch up on this one) Knocking up one girl and then marrying another. What about the way every media member slobbers all over him? Those seem like pretty good reasons to hate him in my mind.

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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knocking up one girl and then marrying another.

The fact they are both hot makes me hate him. It is jealousy, but I can hate him for whatever reason I want.

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by sireric on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree. Hate is hate no matter what it stems from.

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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep good write up

I agree once again with these rankings, too bad everyone ranked them the same.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Well it shows that even thow we hate each other on the feild, we can all agree to one thing off the feild: the Jets suck! ;-)

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have to say these ratings are spot on. I would really like to place Edwards higher, but until he proves it he is going to be stuck at number 3. I am glad no one had Sanchez higher then Edwards though – could not believe that the Madden game has Sanchez with a higher rating then Edwards…

by Ghetts on Jul 31, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah the Madden rankings

are a little screwy this year. But whatever, I’m sure Edwards will do better than Sanchez in real life and that is all that matters.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are the madden rankings for each team this year?

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure

by chrislucas on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

nvm i found em

how in the hell are the Dolphins lower than both the Jets AND the Bills, and not even in the 80’s? this better change come first update.

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure

by chrislucas on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. frankly it is bs

we are like 77 or something and won the afc east last year. it is an insult to our team. but luckily it is just a game.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 31, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a totally new ranking system though. In the past the playable players were basicly between 75 and 99, with the majority of players ranking in the 80’s. Now the majority of players find themselves between 65 and 85 with only the real stars ranking higher then that. Heck you even have a few players in the 40’s that would be playable in a jam.

That being said, some players are ranked low, as well as some teams (like the Dolphins) I’m guessing that EA sports is guessing that you won the division last year on a fluke.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

well EA sports

is probably a member of the Tom Brady Fan Club like everyone else anyway. I still think that the rankings are pretty poor this year but like I said it is a game and doesn’t reflect how teams will do

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 1, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

after this year

edwards will be thought of as better than pennington. thats a silverstreak guarantee.

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by silverstreak3k on Jul 31, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

What is this? Your best Donte Whitner impression??

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by thefourwinds on Jul 31, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

i really do think so tho. i think people will hone in on pennington this year a lil more and hell be shown as average. last year teams were so scared of the wildcat and didnt take miami seriously after going 1-15, and i dont see that happening this year.

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by silverstreak3k on Aug 1, 2009 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, plus

the warranty on Chad’s surgically repaired shoulder has expired. I would expect his arm to fall off by Oct.

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by Joe P. on Aug 1, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

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