Veterans rest as Bills complete first week of camp
If you traveled to St. John Fisher College on Friday afternoon to get your first glimpse of the 2009 Buffalo Bills and their biggest stars, you likely left Growney Stadium sorely disappointed. After nearly a full week of practice, select veterans were padless spectators; QB Trent Edwards, WR Lee Evans, WR Terrell Owens and CB Terrence McGee were all "healthy scratches," for lack of a better term.
Even with some of the big names resting, there were some interesting notes we jotted down that are worth mentioning - mostly to do with lineup shifting. Our day seven recap is after the jump.
Keeping track of the O-Line
Not an awful lot to report here. Most of the veterans saw lighter workloads, so some of the Bills' younger players were able to get more significant reps. Eric Wood and Andy Levitre, for example, saw an increased amount of reps with the first unit offensive line at right and left guard, respectively. Demetrius Bell also took reps with the first team at right tackle.
We don't suggest reading too much into Bell's apparent ascent up the depth chart, but it's worth noting. The guy gets better and better every day. The Bills may have serious questions along the line, but don't be surprised if Bell answers one of those questions sooner rather than later.
The Bills once again worked on some screen plays, and Eric Wood was asked to be out in front as a lead blocker. As our de facto camp reporter, MattRichWarren, aptly put it, that's a scary proposition for a defensive back.
More Wildcat action
For what we believe was the first time, the Bills worked out of a Wildcat offensive set that featured all three of the team's capable running backs on the field at the same time - Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson and Dominic Rhodes. Jackson was the "quarterback" in those situations. When Rhodes was signed earlier this off-season, we openly wondered how the team would keep him happy with his touches once Lynch returned to the lineup. This may be a (small) part of the answer.
Lineup notes
With so much emphasis on situational work and on looking at younger, less proven players, it was a pretty uneventful practice. Rather than bore you with the "Ashlee Palmer tipped a pass" updates, we focused more on where players were lining up.
Obviously, Ryan Fitzpatrick filled in for Edwards with the first unit offense. Peter King's claim that Fitzpatrick has a cannon for an arm is confirmed; he doesn't throw a great ball, but when one flies right, it flies for a while. He had a better day than he normally does. The same can be said for Gibran Hamdan, who took Fitzpatrick's usual spot.
With Owens and Evans on the sideline (along with Steve Johnson and James Hardy), Josh Reed and Roscoe Parrish were the first-team receivers. Reed recorded a pretty touchdown reception on the day. Derek Schouman also had a nice touchdown catch in traffic.
Ryan Denney filled in for Aaron Schobel with the first unit defensive ends; color us disappointed - it would have been quite intriguing indeed to see Chris Ellis get a few snaps there. Ellis worked with Jermaine McGhee - the only other end healthy on the day - with the second unit.
At linebacker, the second unit was once again shaken up. Marcus Buggs held down the fort at middle linebacker, with Ashlee Palmer on the weak side and Nic Harris on the strong side. Pat Thomas, Alvin Bowen and Jon Corto were the third-unit 'backers. Nowhere else on the team is competition more wide open than at linebacker behind the starting trio of Paul Posluszny, Kawika Mitchell and Keith Ellison. Pick any three names, and we will show you an utter lack of surprise if they make the team.
Cary Harris update
Much has been made about the success that seventh-round pick Ellis Lankster has had early in his first NFL training camp. Another corner was selected a round prior to Lankster, and he comes with a USC pedigree - Cary Harris. Noting that we'd heard virtually nothing about him up until today, we watched dejectedly as street free agent receiver Shaine Smith torched Harris for a scoring play in 7-on-7 work. Harris is one of the last corners to rotate through in every drill. His chances of making the roster are virtually naught, though it's likely that if he doesn't, he'll be stashed on the practice squad.
Injury Update
Joining the resting veterans on the sidelines were WR Steve Johnson, WR James Hardy, TE Shawn Nelson, DE Copeland Bryan, DT John McCargo, DT Marcus Smith, DT Ventrell Jenkins and DB Dustin Fox. WR C.J. Hawthorne was elevated from the Active PUP and practiced for the first time today.
The Bills have a morning practice on Saturday; the practice starts at 10 AM. Once it's completed, the Bills will have a long weekend, as they have Sunday off. Then "preparations" begin for next weekend's opening pre-season game, the Hall of Fame game in Canton, Ohio against the Tennessee Titans.
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Hawthorne can go on PUP and not take a roster spot. The biggest question mark is Jenkins.
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Not anymore.
Now that he has been removed from the list he is off of it.
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 31, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Duh, maybe I should have read the post before I commented!!
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by thefourwinds on Jul 31, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I still have a knot in my stomach
concerning Ryan Fitzpatrick. Even though you said “He had a better day than he normally does” , I
didn’t get an warm fuzzies from that. This is such a serious concern…Again, thanks for the awesome updates. They are the best!
He looked accurate today.
But they didn’t do a lot of passing. He scrambled a lot today, more than he passed even
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by MattRichWarren on Jul 31, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
but don’t be surprised if Bell answers one of those questions sooner rather than later.
Just curious what you think of the Bell situation Brian. LT or RT?
I’m assuming you’d think Bell at RT, Butler back inside with Wood at LG. Or Bell at LT and the obvious switching that would occur.
Obviously assuming the current makeup of Walker Levitre Hang Wood Butler etc…. don’t pan out
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I don’t care to speculate, actually. Haven’t really thought about it. I’d much rather see him start on the right side, though, and that has nothing to do with the current projected starting five. He’s nowhere near ready to be a LT.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
further report on o-line from today's practice
I was there today, with my high-powered binoculars trained on the o-line all day. In fact, the entire first-string line got in a full-practice, and Bell was playing both RT and LT with the first-string at various times, as well as RT and LT with the second-string. It would be accurate to say that he was the o-line player who spent the most time on the field — which I interpreted as a sign that the coaching staff is working hard on getting him ready for something (starting RT? swing OT?).
I can report without fear of contradiction that Bell beat his man on every play except for a one-on-one drill in which he made the wrong move and Kyle Williams got by him easily (Kugler quickly corrected him). Other than that he either held his ground or dominated. On one particular play in which he switched with Levitre he knocked out Kyle Williams, then whirled around and took out Ryan Denney after Levitre missed his assignment. The result was a pretty TD pass to TE Jonathan Stupar in the endzone. At this point Bell strikes me as a stronger bet at RT than Brad Butler (who got beat a couple of times), but of course I was watching a practice and the real test will come a week from Sunday when live bullets are flying.
I also trained my binocs a lot on the two rookie guards. Wood really impressed me. He gets a lot of push and generally dominates his man (who at times was Marcus Stroud). When Wood and Bell were lined up next to each other on a couple of running plays it was a sight to behold. I’ll bet we are going to see that tandem a great deal in the future. Levitre surprised me by how small he looks in comparison to the other guys on the o-line. He is not only shorter but also has a smaller chest physique. His power clearly is in his lower body. Having read in scouting reports that he has trouble moving his feet I was also surprised by some of his quick footwork. But given Levitre’s inconsistency it was also evident to me that the dependable Kirk Chambers is a far better LG at the moment. Putting Bell at RT and moving Butler back inside would obviously be the best thing for the team IF Bell is truly ready.
I thought Langston Walker looked fine and didn’t pay as much attention to Hangartner as I probably should have. It was interesting that Walkner almost never had a TE lined up next to him. For today at least he was being left on an island, but that didn’t seem to be a problem (perhaps because Schobel wasn’t out there?).
Some other random observations. Dominic Rhodes struck me as a very talented receiver. I also was impressed by Ellis Langster, who reminds me so much of Ashton Youboty in the way he looks and moves. It will be interesting to see if Lankster is as good a tackler as Youboty. I also like to take note of who is hanging out with whom. T.O. spent about half his time next to Trent and the other half next to Lee (with Steve Johnson joining them). Demetrius Bell hung out with Langston Walker and John McCargo. And Dick Jauron hung out with Ross Brandon, who had his Blackberry in his hand every time I looked over at them (waiting for a call from Maybin’s agent?).
by Macktruck on Jul 31, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Great observations, thank you.
Question
Putting Bell at RT and moving Butler back inside would obviously be the best thing for the team IF Bell is truly ready.
Why? It would seem to me that Wood is already used to playing the right side and Butler is used to playing with Walker. Soooo, wouldn’t a line up that included Bell at RT go – Walker – Butler – Hang – Wood – Bell? Plus, you seemed to indicate Wood and Bell were working well together.
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I have to agree with the line up being Walker-Butler-Hang-Wood-Bell; though of course really need to see how Bell does in some preseason games. But I definitely think Wood and Bell would dominate the right side in the run game which from my observations has been where they usually tend to run (then again maybe Peters was so bad last year that they didn’t want to try).
I think right now the projected line of Walker-Levitre(Chambers)-Hang-Wood-Butler only is because Walker is a better LT then Butler is a RT so they are putting the weaker guard (Levitre/Chambers) by Walker and then the stronger guard (Wood) by Butler.
You’re wrong in that last part about the guards. Levitre is playing the left side because he’s used to the left side. Wood is playing the right side because even as a center, he was blocking right and is right-handed.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, if you look at what I said in my original comment I spoke of “moving Butler back inside”. I didn’t venture any opinion as to which side he would go on. Brian’s explanations for why Wood should be at RG this year and Levitre (if he starts) at LG make a lot of sense. But if Butler goes back inside, wouldn’t it be best to put him on the right where he is comfortable, especially since he has been spending so much time at RT during the OTA’s and Training Camp? I raise the question, but frankly I’m not sure what the correct answer is.
In the long run (a year or two down the road) my guess is that Bell will be the LT and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Eric Wood eventually go to LG since that is the more important Guard position (QB’s blind side). But who knows? At that point Wood could end up at Center and Hangartner at LG.
What strikes me above all is that the Bills finally have a lot of talent on their o-line, though at different stages of development. The trick will be to sort things out in terms of positions in order to maximize that talent, which is why I suspect we are going to see a lot of switching around. But it’s a great problem for the team to have.
My hope for the future would be
Bell-Wood-Hang-Butler-Walker
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This is an excellent, excellent comment. Thanks so much for these stellar observations. Rec’d
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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Great job Mack. Really nice observations.
by hightower_mc on Jul 31, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec’d
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by thefourwinds on Jul 31, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
For what we believe was the first time, the Bills worked out of a Wildcat offensive set that featured all three of the team’s capable running backs on the field at the same time
They did it in a practice earlier this week, too. You wrote about it in your recap. :-)
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Damn.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey you have been reading and writing a lot of stuff this week.
No worries mate.
But Jackson is in the middle, Lynch on the right, Rhodes on the left. It’s pretty cool to see.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 1, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Shawn nelson
i havent paid attention why isnt he practicing or if he is whats the story on him 1st/2nd team?… i hope he plays a big part this year he could be huge if we get some production out of our TE position
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He has an ankle injury
I keep expecting him to be back out there. Nelson will be relegated to his WR type role this year. The Dereks have looked great, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 1, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris Brown says he’s close to returning
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Good.
I love watching him run.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 1, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Creepy?
NH
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not like McIntyre or anything.
I just wish I could run like that. He is so fluid in stride. It’s more like appreciating how a gazelle or deer runs. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 2, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions

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