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Ten Bills to Decide 2009, No. 5: C Geoff Hangartner

C Geoff Hangartner (right) becomes a full-time NFL starter for the first time in his NFL career in Buffalo. (UPI Photo/Bob Carey)

C Geoff Hangartner (right) becomes a full-time NFL starter for the first time in his NFL career in Buffalo. (UPI Photo/Bob Carey)

The Buffalo Bills went 0-6 in the AFC East during the 2008 season.  In an article I dredged up yesterday (and my sincerest apologies go out to the masses for bringing up such cruelty in consecutive articles), we highlighted Buffalo's ridiculously inconsistent ground game as one of several reasons that the Bills haven't beaten a division opponent since 2007.  In Buffalo's first four divisional games last season - all losses by a combined score of 87-46 - the Bills managed to rush for just 73 yards per game.

We have also discussed at length in this gruesomely dragged out off-season the fact that all three of the Bills' divisional opponents play the 3-4 defense; all three of those defenses are anchored by league-renowned nose tackles to boot (Jason Ferguson in Miami; Vince Wilfork in New England; and Kris Jenkins in New York).  The Bills' offensive line wasn't consistent at many positions in 2008; one position that gets that distinction is center, where the (now departed) combination of Melvin Fowler and Duke Preston - known as "Melduke Prestfowsuck" in these parts - was consistently dreadful.  For all of the positive that both of those players brought to the club, they were consistently overwhelmed at the point of attack, which hampered the offense on the whole.

Geoff Hangartner is, for now, the team's response to the center problem.  A part-time starter in Carolina, Hangartner has a reputation for intelligence and aggression, and most feel that he's ready to handle starting center duties full-time at this level.  He could not have chosen a more challenging new home than Orchard Park, New York.

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Let's face it - no matter what Pats fans think, the Bills had one of the better running back tandems in the league in 2008 behind Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson.  The addition of veteran Dominic Rhodes further fortifies a position that is arguably the Bills' team strength.  Considering the ease of Buffalo's schedule outside the division last year, the fact that the Bills finished No. 14 in the NFL in both rushing (115.1 yards per game) and per-rush average (4.2 yards) is rather pedestrian.  That increases tenfold when taking the run-blocking brilliance of departed left tackle Jason Peters into consideration.

As previously mentioned, however, the Bills' biggest rushing issues came in-division, and that's where Hangartner's impact needs to be felt the most.  To put it lightly, the trio of Ferguson, Wilfork and Jenkins manhandled the Bills last season; to the Bills' credit, they did find a way to rush for 234 combined yards in late-season losses to the Jets and Pats, but by that point, the damage was done.

Think the center position isn't important in the AFC East? Think again.  The Dolphins were a successful rushing team in 2008 thanks to dynamic rushers and the Wildcat offense, yet wasted no time in replacing center Samson Satele with Jake Grove.  You can't win consistently in this division unless you're sound at the point of attack, something the division-champion Dolphins realized quickly.  Mercifully, the Bills caught up after several mediocre seasons from the position as well.

The Bills fancy themselves playoff contenders in 2009 after a productive and pleasing off-season.  It's win or go home for the decision-makers at One Bills Drive.  It's hard to state it more plainly: there won't be a lot of winning unless the Bills become more competitive in the division, and a lot of the potential success in those key matchups lies on the broad shoulders of the team's new center.  There's a lot to like about Geoff Hangartner, but very few of us have actually seen him play yet.  The expectations - handle Ferguson, Wilfork and Jenkins in your first year as a full-time starter - are enormous.  His team's competitive abilities in-division (in large part) hangs in the balance.

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Inertial Mass

If we can’t beat Ferguson, Wilfork and Jenkins straight up with our revamped O-line, may I humbly suggest a dusting off of the counter trey and a host of other mis-direction running plays? By getting NT’s off-balance, I believe they can be taken advantage of at least some of the time (if not more).

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Jul 7, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with that is that the 3-4 is literally designed to stop the outside rush and funnel everything back inside to the fat-plugged traffic. You have to deal with the NT to succeed running the ball inside or out against that defense.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 7, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my point was that the play design can get the NT moving in one direction (sideline-to-sideline direction), and the O-line blocking can then take advantage of the NT’s inertia to run the play away from the NT, possibly freeing up a body to block a ILB, which would leave our RB with one less guy to get past.

Did that make sense? Kind of wordy…(at least for me! :) )

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Jul 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Homonyms

Paragraph 2, last sentence:

  • hampered the offense on the whole.

You rarely let that slip by, Brian. Since that’s the case, I had to nit-pick. :) Good write up, by the way. The quality of our offensive line this coming season is the $64,000 question. I hope these athletic grinders have the goods.

It's just a game.

by jj24 on Jul 7, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, whoops. Fixed it. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 7, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After having watched a ton of Panthers games from last year, my shallow impression of Hangartner is very good. He’s a very, very good pass-blocker with indisputable intelligence and more than sufficient strength. As mentioned before, he’s not exactly going to abolish any NT’s, but he’ll – I can promise already now – do a much, much better job of containing the likes of Wilfork, Jenkins, Rogers than Fowler and Preston.
Another thing that struck me when watching film with him is his evident aggressiveness, when the ball is snapped. He attacks – I know it sounds very basic and simple – the opponent, which on numerous occasions wasn’t the case with our former centers.
What I’d also like to rave about – after paying attention to game tape from last year with him – is that there were very, very, very little dropoff from their terrific young starting center Ryan Kalil and Hangartner, and that is indeed promising.

Btw. I agree with your relatively high ranking of Geoff on the list, because – as we Bills-fans have come to realize these last few seasons – the center is an utterly integral position on the field, especially in the type of division we’re in.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jul 7, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad to have him here. I think he’s going to be a very underrated and solid performer for us. He has experience in a run heavy system and has had success when he’s played.

Even if Hang is only average for us this year, he’s a big improvement over the garbage we’ve had out there. That will definitely benefit the O greatly, and if he plays very well, the interior of our line might not be such a major issue. His play can help the rookies become more comfortable and effective early on.

Maybe now we can actually run up the middle in short yardage situations. That’d be a nice thing to see again….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jul 7, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was that a peer pressure induced post of optimism, K? :) I was just watching a replay of Carolina and Tampa from week 6 of last season, and I have to say, Hanger got handled in the pass protection department on more than one occasion. Here’s the link.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80b90b97/Buccaneers-27-Panthers-3

It's just a game.

by jj24 on Jul 7, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind. He actually held his own. I stand corrected.

It's just a game.

by jj24 on Jul 7, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Hang looked pretty good in these clips. Off the subject but , how bout Carolina’s receivers? I think they cost them every interception that was thrown.

by Elbow on Jul 7, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not at all

I liked the Hang signing, very underrated, and should have been discussed more. He will be a big improvement over what we had and be a big boost for our rookie interior linemen.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jul 7, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s a big improvement over the garbage we’ve had out there.

If he avoids being picked up and used by the NT as a cushion for landing on our QB it will be an improvement.

The key to the Bills 2009 season; Can Trent Edwards grow beyond just not being Loseman

by Joe P. on Jul 7, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention running the ball late in the game with a lead. I like his credentials. 5th round pick, four years in the league and only 27 years old. Consistent improvements each year and now blends in with others just like him. Along with two monster rookies looking to make an impact.

by VanScottM on Jul 7, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The main thing is the Bills recognized the need for a shake-up and did one.

Boy, did they ever.
That’s the part that is most heartening. Sure, you could say they were late in addressing the issues. Maybe they should have traded Peters last year, given Chambers more time to mature, found a free agent somewhere that could have put Preston and Fowler on the bench.
But I’m excited to see that they realized they needed a whole new approach. I’m excited to see how the new guys work with Butler and Walker, assuming Wood and Levitre make it into starting positions along with Hang. Buttressed by either Schouman or Fine as the sixth blocker, there is the chance that this group could be very good, and that means this O could be, too.
Can’t wait to watch them in action.

by Defensewinsgames on Jul 7, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Wood

And of course if Hangartner does struggle in the pivot the team has the option of moving Eric Wood over and putting Hangartner at Guard. I don’t think anyone knows if this will be necessary, but the option is available if required. Wood looks like he could be a first-rate Center for a decade or more, and if Hangartner is a success Wood can be the pulling Guard the Bills have lacked ever since Reuben Brown left..

by Macktruck on Jul 7, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hangartner would have to be God-awful for that to happen.

Like Fowler and Preston awful.

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 7, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure that’s right. If he is doing a good job generally, but not holding up that well against the big NT’s in the division I could see a switch taking place around the bye week (assuming Wood has been living up to expectations). By then Wood will have had a half-season’s experience and should be able to make line calls. Everyone of course hopes that the o-line will come together quickly and that it will be possible to know right away who will be starting, but given the circumstances this year it could end up being a work-in-progress for most of 2009, with lots of juggling taking place.

by Macktruck on Jul 7, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams don't often do a complete revamp of the line mid-year

Though it has happened in the past.

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 8, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not thinking of a complete revamp (which I agree is unlikely) but rather a relatively minor adjustment. But precisely because this is, in effect, Dick Jauron’s “contract year” — and by extension the “contract year” for the entire coaching staff — I will not be surprised if the team keeps making adjustments that they might not have made in a normal year if they don’t have a winning record. Their backs are really up against the wall.

by Macktruck on Jul 8, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for what its worth

In the 8 games Geoff didn’t start for the Panthers DeAngelo Williams averaged 17.9 carries for 106.3 YPG, 5.9 yards per carry and scored on the ground 7 times. In the 8 games Geoff did start for the Panther, Williams averaged 16.3 carries for 83.1 YPG, 5.1 YPC and 11 scores on the ground.

The bad news is that the Panthers ran less with Geoff, scored on the ground less, and Williams averaged a bit lower per carry. The good news is that sure the numbers are lower but they were still very good with Hangartner in. I’ll take 5.1 YPC from Marshawn any day.

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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry guys those TD numbers should be switched

Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.

by poz on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

combination of Melvin Fowler and Duke Preston – known as “Melduke Prestfowsuck” in these parts

When was that ….. I don’t remember that nickname? Either way, my favorite nickname for that duo was Foul and Fouler.

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by Joe P. on Jul 7, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i read it as “melduke pretzelf***” the first time. although, clusterf*** would be a good way of describing their combined talent in footwork and line calling.

by the_prophet on Jul 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Green Bay, if only they had signed Melvin too…it a shame to split up such a dynamic duo

by Buffalo Mo on Jul 7, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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