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Rumblings Film Session: Bills/Titans, Offensive Review

The Buffalo Bills lost their first pre-season game of the 2009 season to the Tennessee Titans.  The 21-18 defeat in the Hall of Fame Game didn't leave a lot for Bills fans to chew on as the on-field play relates directly to the team's chances this season, but that doesn't mean there isn't value to looking back at the tape.  That's exactly what we'll do here.

We offer some brief views on the offensive line (and much more) after the jump, but we encourage you to check out Ron From NM's O-Line breakdown for a more thorough analysis of the Bills' biggest offensive talking point right now.

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Pacing
The no-huddle offense is the topic du jour, and it's easy to understand why - Buffalo's offense has not been this interesting since Drew Bledsoe was our quarterback.  The scheme is perfect for many reasons, the most prominent of which is that it fits the team's offensive personnel like a glove.  The benefits are numerous, but the clearest and most prominent advantage present is the easily varied pacing of the offense.  The Titans have a very good defense, folks, even without Albert Haynesworth.  Buffalo moved the ball with ease against them, mostly because the pace had the defensive line on its heels.  It moves quickly.  Tempo will be the offensive buzzword in Buffalo this season, and right now, that's the key feature to the no-huddle - the offense can control the tempo of the game, and change the tempo at ease.  We saw a very small example of that advantage on Sunday night.

Evans and Owens; Owens and Evans
Faithful Rumbler "MARVelous" wrote a delightful FanPost on this very subject the other day that really hit the nail on the head.  I'd recommend you check it out.  Yes, it was just the pre-season, and yes, it's hardly an indicator of things to come, but Tennessee's corners weren't lining up anywhere near Buffalo's dynamic receiving duo of Terrell Owens and Lee Evans.  That's likely to remain predominant, as teams will be wary of allowing either receiver to get behind them for the big play.  If that's the case, Buffalo will methodically pick up yardage underneath.  If they press, the Bills have two vertical threats that can make plays.  Lost in all of the "is Trent Edwards good enough?" and "can the O-Line gel quickly?" hubbub is the fact that the Bills are a nightmare matchup for opponents at the receiver position.  That makes every other problem look a little less important.  That, too, was apparent on Buffalo's one drive, and Evans was only targeted once.

O-Line techniques
As mentioned at the top, we recommend Ron's post for a more complete analysis of the first two drives of the game on the offensive line.  What I wanted to touch on briefly was the fact that some of Buffalo's young linemen - Demetrius Bell, Andy Levitre and Eric Wood in particular - are still struggling with letting defenders get into their body.  The two guards (as well as C Geoff Hangartner) were each bull-rushed with ease on at least one play, and it's because the defenders got into them and therefore gained all the leverage.  Sean Kugler has some work to do with these guys to polish up their technique.  There's no question that this group is a little rough around the edges.  But there is also undeniable talent here.  We, as Bills fans, need to remain patient.  For a completely re-worked line in their first game as a collective unit, the fact that there were positive signs - and the fact that it could have been exponentially worse - is something to hang our hats on for the time being.  With a little patience, I think there's a chance this line will surprise some folks.

Trent Edwards
I mentioned this last night, but it's worth repeating - Edwards looked completely comfortable getting his team into the right play while operating the no-huddle.  His throws were accurate, with the minor exception of his interception.  On first review yesterday, I pinned that pick on Levitre getting bull-rushed into the pocket.  I'm changing my mind a bit; Edwards still stepped into the throw.  It was just a bad ball, and the play was run at the end of the play clock.  It's the pre-season, Trent.  Call the timeout, don't rush, and don't try to be perfect.  These are experiences that Edwards will learn from.  This was a good start to the season for Mr. Edwards.  The pick was ugly, but the offense clicked on the drive.  We'll get to see if Edwards can build on what he started this coming Saturday.

Backup quarterbacks
While y'all talk about your nerves as you watch Ryan Fitzpatrick, Gibran Hamdan and even Matt Baker run this offense, I think it's worth noting that all three had their moments, even though all three were running the same no-huddle offense as Edwards for the first time.  The Bills had very few mistakes offensively; that's a testament to how comfortable all four of Buffalo's quarterbacks are in the offense.  Even Baker was in command of his troops, even though his throws left much to be desired.  These guys may not be talented, but in the extremely unwanted event that Fitzpatrick or Hamdan is forced into action this season (start doing your Edwards Health Dances, people), at least we know these guys are smart enough to get their teams into the right situations.  But yeah, please stay healthy, Trent.

Standout performers
Here are just a few non-prominent guys that I thought had good nights and are worth watching a bit more closely next week.

RB Xavier Omon: Not astonishing, but far better than anticipated production.  With three proven, veteran backs on the roster, Omon should get a lot of carries this pre-season.  If he does good things with those carries, don't be shocked if he sticks longer than expected.

TE Shawn Nelson: His blocking was generally poor, and he was largely invisible on the stat sheet, but I spent most of the second half watching him run routes.  He's deceptively fast.  He doesn't look fast when he runs, but he can move.  I'd like to see more of him in the red zone, and a little less of Josh Reed.  He's a matchup nightmare in that area for linebackers.

TE Jonathan Stupar: We knew he was a solid blocker, but he showed a bit of athleticism and receiving skill as well.  He's cut from the same cloth as Derek Schouman and Derek Fine.  He's going to be hard to get rid of once roster cut-downs begin.

OT Demetrius Bell: For a player so inexperienced, he really acquitted himself well.  Let's not forget that he was blocking Jevon Kearse for a series, folks.  Kearse is no slouch.  Bell can play; he just needs reps.

OT Jonathan Scott: The Titans have a deep, talented (and young) defensive line.  Bell played most of the game at right tackle, leaving Scott to man the second-team left tackle spot.  He looked solid, yet largely unspectacular.  Still, he was steady; he made some mistakes, but played tough.  This guy has a lot of talent, but has dealt with the Texas stigma his entire career.  The Bills might give him longer looks to see if he's worth keeping as a ninth lineman.

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I wasn’t sure if I was watching the 2008 or 2009 Bills the other night other than the new huddle…..looked a lot like the same team, same mistakes. Oh yeah, same losing coach at the helm.

Although I saw Hangartner shove some guy down that was already on his knees well after a play was over, so good to see some nastiness inside.

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by BillsNYC on Aug 11, 2009 7:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha, yeah. Other than that one extremely minor change, right?

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 11, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian,

What did you think of Nic Harris? I thought he stood out a bit to me. Correct me if i am wrong but on one play it looked like he was about to crush the QB (forgot who was playing at the the time). If he has a good pre-season, do you think theres a chance he can beat Ellison for the starting position?

by The Wagon on Aug 11, 2009 8:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the offensive review. The defense is scheduled to post later this morning. Hang tight.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 11, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

sorry!!! its early, im tired. ill be back for that post

by The Wagon on Aug 11, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone a fan

Of those quick passes to Roscoe on the outside? I know he burned that one guy, but I remember we tried that play a lot last year and it always resulted in the samething… No yards gained.

by The Wagon on Aug 11, 2009 8:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Teams know when Roscoe is in to expect that 2 yard quick out—-I’ve been waiting for 2 years for the Bills QB to pump fake that route and have Roscoe take off for the bomb!!!

by Goose22 on Aug 11, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember right Edwards threw immediately to Parrish when the DB was 10 yards off the ball. That could be just one of Edwards’ cues—get the ball to Parrish when he has space to effectively turn it into a punt return.

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by Ron From NM on Aug 11, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

get the ball to Parrish when he has space to effectively turn it into a punt return.

But without the blockers the guy only gets two yards… we’ve seen it time and time again.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 13, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the question is how do you get Roscoe space, not whether or not to. And punt returns are a little different because all the defenders are coming at him in the same direction. Sure, they are spread across the width of the field, but they are all runnning north/south towards him. When Roscoe catches a pass, that isn’t the case, he’s got guys coming at him from the north and south and middle of the field. For every step that he dances, half the defense gets 2 or 3 steps closer to him.

by kaisertown on Aug 13, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he got 2 yards

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by billsoferie on Aug 11, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I personally hate them. This is how it goes – pass to Roscoe, Roscoe dances, Roscoe gets a yard. He needs to catch the ball in line and just keep going on a quick slant. In that regard he can break out like a few years ago against the Jags. He is not a great route runner and he is not great on the quick hit to the outside.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 13, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES, finally someone I can agree with on Roscoe Parrish! This is why the Bills didn’t try to trade him, because they know he isn’t worth much in terms of abilities as a receiver.

by Ghetts on Aug 13, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edwards Pick

I don’t know what you where watching, but Levitre got BULL RUSHED into Trent, who wasn’t able to STEP IN to the throw causing the ball to hang, then have it picked.

I think it’s safe to say that there is no way this team is making the playoffs. The defense is terrible, still no pass rush, couldn’t get off the field on 3rd and long, and the corners are still playing that soft coverage. Perry Fewell must go. His schemes are terrible, and the Tampa 2 just isn’t working. I know, I know it’s only week 1 of 5 for preseason, and I’m sure a lot of it where vanilla coverages b/c they play again in Nov, but still the defense has me worried.

by Michael_Necci on Aug 11, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know what you where watching, but Levitre got BULL RUSHED into Trent, who wasn’t able to STEP IN to the throw causing the ball to hang, then have it picked.

Never said he didn’t. Trent still had room to step into the throw. He just airmailed it.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 11, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Trent was a step late throwing that too – so his assessment after the game proved correct.

Even if Levitre wasn’t there he might have been a touch late on the throw – or not….

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try standing your ground when someone—even a little someone—has their hands under your chin. That’s what Levitre was dealing with on that play. While it should have been a penalty that’s the sort of thing that happens to interior linemen mainly because it’s tough for the refs to see. I’d look at it more as a hand technique issue than Levitre being unable to defeat a bull rush.

When I went through it frame by frame it looked to me like Edwards had yet to completely release the ball when he collided with Levitre. I think that did effect the throw.

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by Ron From NM on Aug 11, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I went through it frame by frame it looked to me like Edwards had yet to completely release the ball when he collided with Levitre. I think that did effect the throw.

Exactly. Which is why the ball was high.

by Pistol on Aug 11, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it’s not the sole reason the ball was high. Edwards had a clean pocket other than Levitre. Step to the side and fire. The ball would have been late either way.

All I’m saying is you can’t blame the high throw solely on Levitre. And really, the play never should have happened in the first place. And, really, this is unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That pick didn’t bug me too much – I thought they were moving the ball through the air pretty darn good. Running game needs some work though….

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed!!!!!!!!! FInally someone said it…Trent needed better footwork on that one…step aside or throw it away. Dont force the ball. I have no problem with Trent being aggressive but when he makes mistakes we have to say they are mistakes. He didn’t hide behind it which was very good too.

Also he was not crushed as he threw…he was not hit by a DE from the blindside or had someone pulling his leg from the ground. Not best blocking but it was a forced pass.

by Berg79 on Aug 11, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps Trent was thinking “This is a meaningless preseason game, I’m only going to be playing this one series, and this is probably my only chance to throw a deep pass for a score. I’m a little off-balance, but why not give it a shot?” And then Levitre crashed into him.

by Macktruck on Aug 11, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe he thought, this is the preseason and I get to sit down once this series is over with, man I have to go to the bathroom. And then just throws it int he general direction of people and runs to the sideline :P

In all seriousness though even without Levitre there wasn’t a lot of room for that throw. And if Trent had gotten it there we all would’ve been like WOW.

by Ghetts on Aug 11, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness though even without Levitre there wasn’t a lot of room for that throw

No there wasn’t – but if the throw was on it was a great throw and great read. He was open – but only for about 1 second.

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many times 1 second is all you’re going to get.

by Dyl on Aug 11, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i kinda hope he was not thinking that

but i know what your saying

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by billsoferie on Aug 11, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After one series where we drove the ball and one series where the defense gave up a touchdown (out of two series they played) we’re not going to the playoffs??? What a load of crap.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 13, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the Bills forced a punt, had a nice drive and then gave up a score. Not the most encouraging game ever, but in no way did that start discourage me. That Tennessee offense is going to turn some heads this year. If(when) the defense isn’t the same dominating unit without Haynesworth, that offense will put up the points they need

by kaisertown on Aug 13, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Titans did concentrate pretty heavily on upgrading their receivers this year, and Kerry though he is ancient has had more time knowing that he would be the number 1 QB this year. I don’t think the game was bad at all in terms of me being discouraged. I think DJ and company picked exactly what they wanted to see and just threw it out there. I am pretty sure if we had our first team offense on the field for two drives we would have been able to put some points on the board…

by Ghetts on Aug 13, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pre-season,exhibition or a practice game

Pre-season,exhibition or a practice game call it what you want but never get too excited about a win or too upset about a loss. The games are played to be able to pick an coordinate the starting units and to determine the final roster. Ideally from the 1st game to last game before the season starts we should be able to measure the continued progress, timing and which players are surprises or busts. As the saying goes the cream rises to the top.

For peace of mind——I would like to see Ron break down the first 2 offensive series of the Titans just to compare how the Titan’s O-line performed against the Bills defensive front 7. The Bills O-line play might not seem as bad when compared.

TE—-Stupar looks like a find, can block has good hands and can take a hit.

Wr—-Jenkins had his moments but should have caught the perfectly throwm pass by Fitz for a TD.

Looking forward to the Bears game already!!!!!!

by Goose22 on Aug 11, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love to be a fly on the wall

… in the O-line meeting room, assuming Sean Kugler meets with his proteges apart from the rest of the team. Hope he does. What does he say? Where to begin? Does he spend time tutoring Levitre, or just assume that his young guard needs to spend a year in an NFL weight room under the supervision of the strength and fitness guys, put on about 20 pounds, and see you next OTA?

Kugler reportedly did wonders with the young guys at Boise State when he took one year off from the NFL to go to the hinterlands. The result was a run game averaging over 220 yards a game and a national championship for the Boise State Broncos. Can he work that kind of magic for our extremely young and inexperienced fivesome up front.?

There’s a story here for the right reporter willing to interview Kugler. I would love to pick his brain, see what he’s up to, find out what he thinks of his guys, and what attitude he hopes to instill in this group.

I agree they need to get a lot tougher and nastier. That bull rush on Levitre was embarrasing. But if this group is intelligent, willing to learn from their coach, and motivated, we might have something.

by Defensewinsgames on Aug 11, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That bull rush on Levitre was embarrasing

looked like Illegagl hands to the face to me – I watched it a few times. Not sure linemen can get their hands under the chin of the o-linemen. I think that should have been a penalty…

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The refs called a loose game. On the first two drives they could have thrown flags for offensive holding on multiple occasions. Some might have been ticky tacky but some would have been pretty legit.

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by Ron From NM on Aug 11, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw a half dozen holding penalties on both sides that weren’t called. Definately a loose game.

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definately a loose game

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 11, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn’t it be TWHS?

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

An interesting point about the Offense

Here is an interesting insite about the game the other night. The Bill’s plan on speaking to the League Office about the pace of the officials and their spot of the ball following a play. Understandably, the zebras are used to the 45 second clock and proceed spotting accordingly. The Bills have been practicing at a much faster pace and they thought the refs were lackadasicle the other night in getting the ball respotted. The Bills want to run more plays, and at a very quick pace. It will be interesting throughout the rest of the presseason to watch and see if the refs respond. All the better for us, if they do.

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by Geronimo on Aug 11, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if that is something that they can mandate the league do. If the ref’s are holding up the pace of the offense then OBD would have a legitimate complaint against them.

Clearly though – if we also wear the ref’s out – maybe we can get away with more penalties? ;)

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the refs are supposed to get the ball spotted ASAFP but generally don’t worry about it because teams aren’t really ready anyway—until the last two minutes or so of a half.

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by Ron From NM on Aug 11, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of the d-line being worn out by the 4th quarter though – I can definately see that happening

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The worry is that if the offense isn’t effective you’re hurting your own defense. A couple straight 3-and-outs wouldn’t be good.

by Pistol on Aug 11, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sterling post, where we get an overview of our offense’s performance against the Titans. What really encouraged me was how we were seemingly able to move the football with ease against a very stout defense (I’m of course referring to the first drive, where we had all our offensive starters with the exception of Brad Butler). Our vast playmakers are going to create a ton of matchup problems for defenses, but what we really need to know are these three things imo.:

1) Can Trent utilize them properly and spread the ball around (without constantly going in check-down mode) and actually, you know, go deep?

2) Can our O-line hold up and provide Trent with enough time in the pocket or will we see the likes of Andy Levitre and Geoff Hangartner getting pushed five yards back into Trent like against the Titans?

3) Will Turk Schonert be able to take advantage of the weapons he has at his disposal? Will he go in passing-mode and almost totally neglect the running attack like he had a propensity to do last year? (If he does the latter part, our offense will be nowhere as venomous as it could be)

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Aug 11, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trent will be calling the plays from the field.

Turk will be watching the coverages from the sidelines or up in the box. The two will be talking alot I am sure. This should keep the weapons on their toes all game. We owe alot of teams an awful lot. A two touchdown lead will not be safe against some of the teams we play this year. So if this no-huddle works it will only get better as will Trent. That being said, it brings us back to our O-Line and their progress.

by VanScottM on Aug 11, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple additional points

Stupar has looked good all through camp, and showed this during the game. We may need to find a place for him.

Red Zone Offense. Mentioned above was replacing Josh Reed in the line up inside the 20 yard line. Once again we don’t want to show to much in the preseason, but our first game is a huge one. What about replacing Josh and Lee in the red zone. Hardy has been banged up and will need time to get his feet under him at least for us to evaluate him. There is Scuba Steve at 6’2" to replace Lee Evans, then Derrick Fine and Derrick Schouman at 6’3 and 6’2" respectively, along with Shawn Nelson at 6’5". This part of our offense needs to be turned around.

Not sure what the percentages are in the red zone TD’s Vs FG’s but wouldn’t it be nice if it was the exact opposite.

Then there is the first and goal from inside the five. Time will tell but with Wood, Hang, and Levetrie, I am looking for us to pound the middle for scores. We may have to wait for Marshawn to get back for this. Your Thoughts.

by VanScottM on Aug 11, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but the player that should have by far /em> the biggest red zone impact this year was not on the field for any of the attempts on Sunday.

by Krenn on Aug 11, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the right personnel

It should be impossible to keep us out of the endzone. Impossible is a stretch but my point is the personnel is there and those percentages should swap. It will be interesting as we move forward.

by VanScottM on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed – the most effective team in the red zone last year was the Arizona Cardinals. And it wasn’t that they scored TD through the air but they ran it in as well. With how we match up in terms of receivers our running game should really start to dominate in the red zone.

by Ghetts on Aug 11, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff Brian. I havn’t had time to go over the tape myself, but the couple main thoughts I have are:

Javon Kearse is a slouch. He finished 7th on the Titans in sacks last year. He has 3.5 sacks in each of his last two seasons. He’s 33 years old and hasn’t been the same since his 2nd major surgery a few seasons ago. He’s essentially Chris Kelsay at this point in his career. That said, I actually thought Bell looked really solid, just not a starting lineman in the NFL solid. And calling maybe the most raw player selected in the 2008 draft, not ready to be a solid starter isn’t a criticism. He never should have been considered an option to start.

Trent looks poised to answer the big question about him in a positive way. The big question being, did Trent struggle to get the ball down the field last year because he was hesitant to throw to guys who weren’t wide open, or because Robert Royal was this teams 2nd best player at getting open down the field? He still hasn’t answered it yet, and I’m going to hold off on an opinion until he plays a couple good defenses in the regular season, but so far, so good.

by kaisertown on Aug 11, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He never should have been considered an option to start.

Bell – no I saw a guy that needs more coaching and more time. Unless injury’s happen – he should be developing and we can take a more serious look at him next year.

did Trent struggle to get the ball down the field last year because he was hesitant to throw to guys who weren’t wide open

I’m sold on his arm – not in the Cutler sense – but he can get the rock down field. I think he was hesitant but I’m pretty sure this year’s going to be different. Where he has to be better in my opinion is the red zone. We can move very well between the 20’s – but he’s gotta get hot in the strike zone this year

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by J2 on Aug 11, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did you think of Marshawn

I know he didn’t really do anything but one thing that stood out was how he shook off who I believe was Kyle Vanden Bosch like he was a scrawny little corner. I don’t think Marshawn’s speed actually took a hit I think it was just pre-season. But with those added pipes and our high speed offense you gotta think once the 4th quarter comes round and the opposing D is wearing down Marshawn is gonna have an absolute field day and be unstoppable like Marion Barber is at the end of games.

Did I mention the tank is a tank?

by ArenZimm on Aug 11, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed – I think Marshawn can really do his work in the red zone and the 4th quarter. I think the offense will be able to tear it up in the first half and hopefully have a lead and then allow Marshawn finish the game for us – or Freddy for that matter

by Ghetts on Aug 11, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screen Pass

Maybe it was just what I wanted to see, but it looked to me that the Bills ran more screen passes in this game than they did all last year. It is so refreshing to see them actually try plays like screens, PA pass, and slants that have been missing for the last few years.

by DukeOfDunkirk on Aug 11, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I really think they tried in the offseason to open up some more type of plays for Trent. I don’t have the link but I remember an interview with Trent and he said that the playbook is actually SMALLER this year. I think they got rid of a lot of plays that just flat out didn’t work and really tailored the plays to our personel (which would be great).

by Ghetts on Aug 11, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets just hope they keep it up come the regular season, and not abandon the play calling. I thought the calling was pretty good all night, including for the 2nd and 3rd stringers

by DukeOfDunkirk on Aug 11, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But every time they ran a screen pass, the call at the line was Yellow 17. Something tells me the defense might adjust to that.

by Krenn on Aug 11, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams usually install a different color and coding package for each game. I do know that much. I know that in Johnny Unitas’ biography, he talked about how the Colts used a “fake” color for each game. During the course of the game, Unitas would call several audibles using colors for formations or key words. If for instance, the “fake” was Yellow, Unitas would bark out something like “Yellow 17” which would alert the team that they were sticking with the original call, and to disregard everything before the snap count.

I imagine that playcalling has become even more complex since the 1960s. You have to imagine that offenses can’t afford to be read that easily.

by Dyl on Aug 11, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well I also saw that the Titans tried to wait until they thought the play was going to be snapped before showing their true formation on some plays. One instance Trent yelled something out right after they showed and they all just looked baffled, it was kind of funny

by Ghetts on Aug 11, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the no -huddle stuff looked really good

Trent is smart, i hope he screws with the D-line alot

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone"
-Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Aug 11, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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