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Shanahan vs. Belichick 2000-2008, or "Why I want Shanahan as a coach."

Shanahan vs. Belichick eight times. Shanahan wins five times.


-Shanahan goes 3-1 with non-playoff teams. Griese is the QB for two, Plummer for one, and Cutler for the blowout loss last year.
-Shanahan goes 2-2 with playoff teams.
-Aside from scoring 7 points last year, Denver’s lowest point total was 17 (in a win). Next is 19 (in a loss). All others are 24 or better.
-Denver rushes for over 100 yards five times (3-2 record). Two losses are blowout last year, and Brady comeback in 2003 (30-26 NE win).
-In four of the games turnovers / defense play a big role in the win or loss (2008 NE win, 2005 DEN win, 2001 DEN win, 2000 NE win).
-Bad QB play accounts for 2 losses (2000 and 2008).
-All other games= average QB play. QB yards under 300, attempts under 30. 5-1 in those games.
-Denver’s blocker were of the less-than-300lbs. variety against the NE widebody DL.

Analysis: Winning not a product of the Denver talent, but of the system. Bronco playoff and non-playoff teams beat NE.

“The why”
Shanahan uses a run-first, play-action pass based version of the West Coast offense, which also relies on zone blocking. Shanahan’s offense forces the LB’s and defense overall to stay honest to the run. It’s hard to be defensively elaborate when you’re constantly playing the run. Blitzes get very basic and rare, because a bad blitz call against the run = big gainer.

Throw in the play-action, and it’s a nightmare for the defense. The LB’s are staying honest to the run. They can’t really play the TE well. The safeties have to account for the TE, meaning they can’t help both receivers (one safety vs. TE and the other in Cover 1). If they go Cover 0 with the other safety helping out one WR, you’ve got man coverage on one WR and the TE. That’s how Kanell, Griese, and Plummer can have good days against good defenses.

I’m not counting out Jauron yet, and I hope the best from him… and I can’t bring myself to want the Bills to do poorly. But, if they do, imagine what Shanahan could do with Lynch, Evans, Edwards, etc.

Stats:
2000: Broncos lose to NE, 28-19. NE sacks Brian Griese 4 times and limits run to under 100 yards. Bledsoe is QB for NE. Denver made the playoffs that year (11-5).

2001: Broncos beat NE, 31-20 at home, thanks to 21 point second half. Denver running game less than 100 yards, Griese is average, defense intercepts Brady 4 times. Denver does not make the playoffs (8-8)

2002: Broncos beat NE 24-16, with Denver up 21-7 at the half playing at NE. Denver rushes for 136 behind Portis’ 111; Griese is 18-23, modest 229 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. Denver does not make the playoffs (9-7)

2003: Denver losses 30-26 (NE TD in the 4th to take the lead). Broncos rush for 114 yards. Danny Kanell throws 16-35 for 163 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. Denver goes 10-6 and makes the playoffs.

2004: Do not play. Broncos go 10-6 and make playoffs.

2005 Regular season: Broncos win at home 28-20 (28-6 after 3 quarters). Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson rush for 178 yards. Jake Plummer goes 17-24, 262, 2 TD’s. Broncos go 13-3 and make playoffs.

2005 Playoffs: Denver leads almost the whole way, winning 27-13. Denver rushes for 96 yards, Plummer passes almost 200 yards. NE fumbles 3 times.

2006: Denver wins in NE, 17-7. Denver rushes for 144 yards, Plummer throws for 256 yards. No turnovers, no ST plays. NE just gets beat. Denver goes 9-7 and does not make playoffs.

2007: Do not play. Denver goes 7-9 and does not make playoffs.

2008: NE wins 41-7. Denver turns the ball over 5 times, rushes for over 100 yards. Cutler throws for 168 then leaves game. Denver goes 8-8 and does not make playoffs.

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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We need a top 5 Qb and shannohannahan

something needs to be done

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone"
-Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Aug 24, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

We need a top 5 Qb

That’ll be easy… everyone’s got one of those.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 25, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was refering to draft status

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone"
-Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Aug 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a nice piece of work...rec'd

Shanahan got the shaft in Denver. He would be a good fit and a logical choice for the reasons you stated. His record speaks for itself, something Jauron can’t say.

"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.

by Joe P. on Aug 24, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Denver’s struggles under Shanahan (post Elway) have been defensive.

Shanahan’s offense scored no matter who blocked, who ran, who caught, and who threw. It worked against the Pats, and most everyone else too.

Again, not hoping against Jauron, but Shanahan would make the playoffs with this team.

by Der Jaeger on Aug 24, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

cowher as HC and Def Coord

Shanahan as O-Coord. i mean as long as we are dreaming, dream big! gotta risk it to get the biscuit!

by silverstreak3k on Aug 25, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

You realize Cowher has never, ever coordinated a defense in his life, right? :)

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 25, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

eh details.....

fantasy lists dont have to make sense.

by silverstreak3k on Aug 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I highly doubt we will ever get Mike Shanahan. One reason – power. Ralph Wilson will not higher Mike to be GM/Coach. After the Donahoe fiasco he doesn’t want to give that much power to any one person. I like Shanahan as much as the next guy with two Super Bowl rings but unless he is coming in a HC only, I don’t see it working out for Ralphie.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 25, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

After the Donahoe fiasco he doesn’t want to give that much power to any one person.

What about the Jauron/Levy/Inner Circle fiasco? Maybe if he would hire the right guy, it wouldn’t be an issue!!!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 25, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

No foolin', K.

I don’t think Wilson would hire a guy and give him that much power again. If it was the right guy nobody would complain, obviously. He could definitely hire a coach or a GM but not one to do both I don’t think.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 25, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

BAH. I know who my perfect GM is, too. I WANT A JOB AT OBD

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's right!

You have it all mapped out. I forgot.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as i have been praying for Shanahan to be the next coach here.......

I’m afraid our Buddy Ralph will not be able to pony up enough money to lure him here. At the same time we need a head coach, Dallas will also after the season is done. Jerry Jones will throw the money at Shanahan and get him down in Big D and Buffalo will have to settle for someone else. But hey, there is a God, so anything is possible right?

Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67

by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Aug 25, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

we've talked about the problems before

It’s going to take big money to get an established coach with any other options to come live in Buffalo. Ralph won’t burden his heirs with a big money, longterm contract that would make the team more difficult to sell. It’s noble, in a sense.

As much as Ralph Wilson IS the buffalo bills, we won’t see a big money coach with the team until the Post-Wilson fate of the team has been determined.

doesn't buy posluzny.

by JPH on Aug 25, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Shanahan has always given the Patriots fits

which is why Belichick has the utmost respect for him. I hope he never finds his way into the AFC East, lol.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 26, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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