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Trading Parrish is a bad idea for Buffalo

The Buffalo Bills signed WR Terrell Owens to a one-year, $6.5 million deal way back on March 7.  When the signing became official late that afternoon, the Bills immediately had a surplus of talent at the position - and many speculated that four-year pro Roscoe Parrish, the most luxurious of the depth players, might soon be on the chopping block.

Despite surviving the Draft without a trade, Parrish trade rumors have yet to die.  The Buffalo News has kept the rumor alive over the past few weeks, indicating that a trade of Parrish is still possible, and speculating that Parrish started in place of the injured Owens last weekend in Green Bay in order to showcase him live in front of NFL scouts.  Even if the rumor isn't true, I still think trading Roscoe a borderline terrible idea.  Explanation is after the jump.

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Special teams still a point of emphasis
Bobby April still has a lot of say when it comes to the final shape of the roster each and every season.  Special teams is, obviously, highly emphasized each year, and no one can deny that Parrish is an asset to April's punt units.  Parrish is historically good when it comes to returning punts, averaging 14 yards per return for his career and scoring three touchdowns in that role (as opposed to the five he's hauled in as a receiver).  One could easily make the argument that Parrish is the NFL's most feared punt returner today.

Parrish rarely returns punts in the pre-season.  That's remained true this year, as the Bills have chosen to keep him out of harm's way by letting reserve running backs Dominic Rhodes and Bruce Hall handle punts.  Each has muffed a kick this year, leading to a fumble recovery for the opposition.  Those types of plays make one appreciate Parrish's return skills even more.  It's pretty clear that Rhodes won't be handling punts in-season (and Hall probably won't be on the team), but if Parrish is traded, Rhodes might get the nod.  So could Leodis McKelvin, though as the kick returner and a starting cornerback, McKelvin's plate is rather full.  If Parrish leaves, punt returns become a liability in Buffalo.

Is the potential compensation worth it?
Potential compensation for a player of Parrish's stature isn't overwhelming.  If you're looking at draft picks, a fifth-round selection seems like a best case scenario.  Trading for another player is possible, but still rare (though there have been a couple of player-for-player swaps here in the last couple of weeks).  It's extremely likely that any player swapped in here for Parrish won't have the electric return value that Parrish brings to the table.  How likely is it that a new guy could assimilate to Bills schemes and contribute right away?  I'm going with not likely.

Any compensation the Bills received for Parrish almost assuredly would not be worth Parrish's value to the team right now.  Let's not forget that this coaching staff, and this franchise as a whole, is in full-fledged win-now mode.  How does a future pick or a reserve at another position help them win games? Parrish can change the landscape of a game by himself.

Parrish is what he is
It should be obvious that I'm not advocating keeping Parrish based on the vain hope that he could still blossom as a receiver.  He hasn't caught more than 35 passes in a season, and he's only crossed the 30-catch plateau once.  If he still has untapped potential as a receiver, he's not going to reach it in Buffalo - we can't figure out how to use him.  His value clearly isn't offensive.

He's still worth keeping around - even as a "luxury," a description used quite often these days.  His return skills alone make him worth keeping around - unless, of course, a franchise gets desperate and overcompensates.  (That's not likely.)  Let's face it - Roscoe Parrish is one hell of a luxury item to have.

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Could not agree more.
Let’s face it – Roscoe Parrish is one hell of a luxury item to have.

I have to admit that there was a time when I thought that trading Parrish was a good idea (that was around draft time). But now it would make no sense to trade him. Any player thats a threat to return a punt to the house every time he gets the ball is a fantastic asset to your team. Parrish is that exact typ of player.

To me there are only 3 players in the league that are feared in the return game: Devin Hester, Josh Cribbs and our very own Roscoe Parrish. Everyone else is on a lower level. Thats why getting rid of Roscoe now would be insane.

So lets keep Roscoe around and see if he can nab us a few TD’s this year. Worst case scenario, we have this conversation again at next year’s draft.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 7:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To me there are only 3 players in the league that are feared in the return game: Devin Hester, Josh Cribbs and our very own Roscoe Parrish

I gotta throw Leon Washington in there too, although, he only does kickoffs.

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by jj24 on Aug 27, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking of him too, but somehow just don’t see him as being quite on the same page. He’s VERY close though.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

washington owns in the kickoff return in madden 10…so hard to take down

by dragonwag0n on Aug 27, 2009 8:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but unlike a lot of fans here, I actually make a distinction between a video game (which I do love to play) and reality.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parrish has 3 TDs for returns

Through 5 games this year on Madden 2010

by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me there are only 3 players in the league that are feared in the return game: Devin Hester, Josh Cribbs and our very own Roscoe Parrish.

i’d be willing to move hester down a slight notch this coming year, too, since it’s obvious they’re working him in significantly into the passing game. returners who get too many snaps on offense start to get afraid of being hit, and lose the fearlessness that they have to have..

by the_prophet on Aug 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely agree with you, Brian.

Although Parrish’s athleticism and skill have not been a major asset on offense, his ability on punt returns leaves nothing to question. I’m all for keeping him just for the 30 or so punts he’ll return in a season.

Also, putting Parrish on the field with Evans, Owens, and any combination of Reed, Johnson, Hardy, and Nelson could open up some more opportunites for Roscoe and the other receivers. Roscoe still has his sxplosive quickness, so he’s as valuable as he’s always been.

Lastly, it’s not like Roscoe(or the Bills) has had great quarterback play or coordinators while he’s been here. That doesn’t mean Parrish would put up numbers if we had different QB’s or coordinators, but it can be taken into consideration.

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by jj24 on Aug 27, 2009 7:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You make a good point Brian

I have no problem with keeping him for punt returns only and using him to back up Reed occasionally.

I have an issue when they trot him out as a starter when more competent players such as Steve Johnson are taking second team reps. If he drops on the depth chart to where he deserves to be and we use him primarily as a punt returner OK, I still think that he is a luxury but at this point in the season maybe you’re right.

Sidenote: If PRe-season doesn’t count, then why are we letting McKelvin return kicks? I’d had to see him get injured, we need him on defense.

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by keysh67 on Aug 27, 2009 7:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McKelvin didn’t until the third game.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 27, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don’t care, if pre-season don’t count – then keep him out of harms way. He’s a stud return man and we all know it, he can get back up to speed when the season starts.

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by keysh67 on Aug 29, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

Why trade the number one punt returner in the league? Yeah he only got in the endzone once last year but his skills are like none other.

by The Wagon on Aug 27, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its all about field position.

Last year I remember starting in the opponents territory so often after Parrish returned a punt. We still never seemed to get any points though :P

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by Buffalove on Aug 27, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Parrish’s presence alone resulted in better field position. With the constant threat of him being able to take it to the house, teams were always avoiding kicking it to him, by kicking out of bounds, using high, shorter kicks, etc.

Gotta keep Parrish, I can’t believe it would even be a question.

by thejimbo on Aug 27, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fred Jackson averaged almost 17 yards per punt return. I don’t think Roscoe’s presence is what has resulted in better field position. Bobby April’s return unit is.

~K
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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said Brian.

I’ve been wondering for a while now, if we’re having serious conversations about keeping “fake safeties” and linebackers that are too small to play linebacker on our active roster solely for their special teams prowess – why in the world would we trade away our single most important special teams player for what would certainly be little compensation?

I say keep Roscoe as long as we can (until he pulls a Jason Peters) and let him do his thing on punts. I also wouldn’t mind if the Bills tried to get him the ball in space more on offense, I realize it hasn’t worked yet but I do remember in the Titans game a flat pass to Roscoe went for about 10 yards after a sick juke had his would be tackler falling on his ass. Throwing a play like that in from time to time might not be a bad thing, certainly better then running on every first down.

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by TEMSON on Aug 27, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would just like to say that that play in the HOF game was amazing. I couldn’t stop laughing because the CB just looked dumbfounded as he was sitting there after getting faked out of his cleats.

by WhyBillsWhy on Aug 27, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple things I think are wrong in general.

  • The Bills don’t have a surplus of WRs. If Owens or Evans are going to miss a game(s) the offense is going to take a hit. It’s not like they can plug someone else in and not miss a beat. They have a surplus of 4th WRs.
  • Parrish being a luxury. Why is having a top player at a position (punt returner) a luxury? The Bills need as many those as they can. Those are the type of players that win you games. It’d be one thing if his salary prevented the team from, for example, being able to sign an OL, but all the Bills would have if they traded him is a late round pick, not a starter filling a key hole.
  • The Bills are in win-now mode so they can’t trade him. Everything could go perfect this season and the Bills aren’t going to win the Super Bowl. And isn’t that the goal? I’m not saying you don’t want to win, or improve, but if you’re going to be 2 wins better in 2010 (with potentially more down the road) and 2 wins worse in 2009 you make the move for the future. Parrish is under contract for 3 more years, and not likely to garner much in return, so trading him is unlikely and probably counterproductive, but not trading him because the team is in win-now mode seems shortsighted.

by Pistol on Aug 27, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They have a surplus of 4th WRs

this is an excellent point!

by the_prophet on Aug 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep Parish

I agree we should keep Parish. Owens is unpredictable and the way things are going with him now, he may never play one down for the Bills. I don’t trust him, and I think he is using the Bills to extend his fading football career. We may need Parish sooner than anyone thinks.

by Geolover on Aug 27, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not Convinced

So…Cut Justin Jenkins? That is what will happen if Parrish is still on the final roster.

He is a gadget receiver that takes field time away from Jenkins and Stevie Johnson, two receivers that are ready to contribute (more that Parrish).

No doubt he is a great punt returner. But the tam has three guys on the roster that could return well enough, and perhaps blossom in April’s system into great themselves (S Johnson, Jenkins, Lankster).

It’s not that I don’t like Parrish. I just don’t want to cut talent if you could adequately compensated for him.

by a.j. on Aug 27, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In what world would Justin Jenkins ever get receiver reps ahead of Parrish or be anywhere near as good in the return game? I don’t know where your getting this from, but as limited as Parrish’s abilities are as a WR, Jenkins are even more so.

Jenkins is older, slower, less agyle, less dynamic, and most importantly, MUCH less expirienced then Parrish. So keeping Parrish in favor of Jenkins is in no way a loss for this team.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jenkins? Come on now. He’s barely a mediocre preseason WR.

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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep Parrish

Unless, we can get immediate help in our pass rush, or front five on offense. That would mean a trade and that would mean an immediate impact. At this point, I don’t see that happening, so keep him.

by VanScottM on Aug 27, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parrish is more of a luxury after this season

Let him score a couple punt returns for TDs and maybe a few electrifying plays on offense if he can be found by Trent, and then see who wants him then. If Hardy gets healthy and learns the game, and Stevie Johnson is the guy, then after this year you could let Parrish go, assuming we then draft some other mid round receiver with potential assuming also that we don’t have to draft a TE for the next 3 years….we’ll see

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by killascript on Aug 27, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We’re probably losing 3 WR’s next offseaon then. TO and Reed have expiring contracts.

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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Reed stays next year, even if DJ goes, he provides good assets as a number 3 WR

by Ghetts on Aug 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jauron is gone, I think it’s MUCH less likely Reed is resigned.

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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Too bad, because he is really good in the slot, and is the best blocking WR we have (which helps our run game)…

by Ghetts on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

than maybe he is less of a luxury then

But then again, who do you sign for virtually the same contract…Reed or Parrish. I just think, no matter what spectators say, Parrish doesn’t get it done on the field consistently. I want him to change my mind, but he hasn’t shown it. Reed is at least reliable, and a good all around player.
TO….we’ll have to see what happens

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by killascript on Aug 27, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not advocating trading Parrish but I wouldn't be against it

Roscoe does make a real contribution in terms of punt returns, but there are other good returners available (Fred Jackson, Rhodes, Lankster) who may not be as explosive as Roscoe but can still rack up decent yardage. That’s the only reason for keeping Parrish, and its a marginal one (another way of saying he’s a luxury — by definition a luxury is something you don’t really need). At the same time Parrish will count $3 million toward the cap this year, and that’s money that could be used to resign McGee (which we should do if at all possible). And Parrish is clearly unhappy — he had his agent ask the Bills to trade him during the offseason. He apparently thinks he should be the #2 WR or something (or at least #3) and get a lot more playing time on offense. There is a lot to be said for avoiding unhappy players on your roster .

That’s why I don’t think it would be a mistake to trade him. I see it as a borderline call that would depend on what we could get for him. Remember, a #5 pick could turn into a Kyle Williams or Brad Butler (who were both taken in that round). Which would you rather have — Parrish or someone like that?

by Macktruck on Aug 27, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a #5 pick could turn into … Brad Butler. Which would you rather have — Parrish or someone like that?

Parrish, no questions. The threat of him returning alone is enough to help win the field position battle. Also, he is a playmaker even if he doesn’t show up as often as we’d like.

Of course, I too would rather have a Kyle Williams, but how often are you lucky enough to get a steal like that in the fifth round?

by thejimbo on Aug 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And all of you who love Nic Harris – 5th round, or all of you who love Bell – 7th round, Stevie -7th round…

by Ghetts on Aug 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, I too would rather have a Kyle Williams, but how often are you lucky enough to get a steal like that in the fifth round?

Well lets go over the last 4 drafts, shall we?
2009: Nic Harris, may be our starting SAM by years end.
2008: Alvin Bowen, dud.
2007: no fifth rounder, but we got John Wendling in the sixth and he has proven to be a solid STer.
2006: Brad Butler and Kyle Williams.

I would say that the Inner Circle has done a rather fantastic job of lat round drafting.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But I’d still rather have Parrish.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“No questions” about preferring Parrish? How often does he break open a big return that makes a real difference? Remember, a good percentage of the time he takes a fair catch (as he should) or has a relatively short runback. I’ll agree that he is one of the best punt returners in the game today, but I’m not sure that translates into that great an advantage for the Bills if you look at the big picture, and of course some of those long returns have as much to do with April’s great blocking schemes as with Parrish himself.

To my mind it’s crazy to chose Parrish over Brad Butler, who, when he was playing RG, was the Bills’ best player on the o-line last year. Butler makes a contribution on every offensive snap. How can Parrish compare to that? And now that it has been mentioned, I would much rather have a promising young LB like Nic Harris than an overpaid punt returner who can’t even do kickoffs and has almost no ability whatsoever to get separation as a WR.

by Macktruck on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think that your comparing Parrish and Butler is a fair call. Parrish MIGHT get us a 5th rounder, but that fifth rounder does not necessarily translate into another Brad Butler or Kyle Williams. While I mysefl pointed out the Inner Circle’s terrific ability to spot talent in the later rounds, the odds of that continuing are stacked against us, espcially if you concider that this might be the Inner Circle’s last year running the Bills.

Thanks, but I think that I’ll keep Parrish.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fully understand your position, but I think the fact remains that the Bills have done pretty well with fourth and fifth round picks lately (arguably better than they have done in the first and second rounds), so I would be happy to take my chances if they could swap Roscoe for a fifth rounder (a big if). I’m not so sure I would do it for a sixth round pick, tho. As I said before, for me it’s a borderline call. You can make a case for keeping Roscoe, but you can also make one for trading him if the return is good enough.

by Macktruck on Aug 27, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutly true, you can make a case for either. But my point is that the case for trading him rests on getting a minimum of a 5th rounder for him. And that said fifth rounder is only any good in DJ and Co. stay put, which is by no way a garantee. Bisicly the value of the 5th rounder changes with who we have coaching/scouting and drafting.

I say that we keep him for the season and have this talk again before next year’s draft.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is that Brandon and Modrak will survive even if Jauron is let go, so the drafting will probably not be that different (except that we get fewer DB’s).

by Macktruck on Aug 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was the Bills’ best player on the o-line last year

an accolade comparable to being the smartest person with down’s syndrome.

mediocre linemen are replacable, elite punt returners are not.

by thejimbo on Aug 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, I’ll rephrase that. Butler was a well-above-average NFL OG last year (as Walker was at RT). Fnding guys like that for the o-line is not that easy. Just look at how hard it has been for the Bills to bring them in recently. In my book a really good o-lineman is worth five elite punt returners in terms of what they can do for the team.

by Macktruck on Aug 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough. I agree that a good o-lineman is extremely valuable, far more than a punt returner. We just fundamentally disagree about the quality of lineman that Butler is and thats OK, I seem to be in the minority with that opinion. Ive just never been impressed with Butler, and I hope that when Bell is ready, he will be the odd man out.

by thejimbo on Aug 27, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keeping Roscoe this year in no way changes being able to keep McGee.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fred Jackson

returned punts pretty well last year as I recall (is there anything he doesn’t do pretty well?). I’d think about waiting until trade deadline to trade Roscoe. That way you give Freddy’s thumb/wrist a chance to heal, Marshawn gets back as #1 RB, and in the best case scenario Roscoe returns a punt for TD to increase his trade value, and we’d have a better sense of what holes have developed because of injury (though there seems to be obvious holes now in LB corp that front office has not seemed interested in plugging).

P.S. Great blog.

by williamsDT on Aug 27, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like your thinking… my concern of Freddy to PR was marshawn being out – but waiting until lynch returns works for me. The thing I HATE about keeping Roscoe is he takes up an active roster spot on game days. When McKelvin returns kicks, he still provides soemthing on defense (same with when McGee did), if Freddy returns punts he still provides something on offense.
Freeing up an active roster spot come that point would be pretty nice.

by Ghetts on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for joining the conversation.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 27, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KR

Boy, if Parrish could do KRs, as well, that would free up McKelvin (I think that would help McKelvin’s development a lot) — I just don’t see McKelvin doing both in the long-term. I love Parrish as a PR, but he needs another role to warrant the $‘s his somewhat new contract. I don’t know why they don’t try him there (I always hear they are different roles, but I just don’t see that much difference). If he can do both KR and PR, with his special skills at WR and reverses and maybe wildcat, he really is worth contract.

by labill on Aug 27, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McGee did both for a long time (4 full seasons). There’s no reason to believe Leo can’t do it for longer. McGee probably would have done it last year had Leo not been so good.

The staff won’t put Parrish at KR, because he’s not very good at it. 23 yards per return on 18 returns for his career is nothing special. He’s not a straight line return man like McGee or McKelvin and any good kick returns. He’s a dancer that needs a ton of space to operate, which he isn’t getting on kick returns. Plus, I’d have to imagine subjecting his size to the lunatics on kick coverage full-time would lead to injury pretty quickly.

with his special skills at WR

He sure is special, but not the good special!

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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone seen Eurotrip?

“Have a very special day for a very special boy.”

by Ghetts on Aug 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Eurotrip is pretty underrated in my opinion

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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trading Parrish made some sense a few months ago. But what does Buffalo get from trading him now? Is his trade value going to go down over the course of the season? If Buffalo wanted the draft pick, couldn’t they just deal him after the season? All you gain by trading Parrish is an extra roster spot for somebody like Jenkins, Bryan, Stupar, J, Scott, Wendling or whoever (not a big deal to me) and Ralph pockets a few mil that he doesn’t have to pay to Parrish anymore (even less of a big deal).

by kaisertown on Aug 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good point.

I doubt draft pick compensation would decrease that much, if at all, after the season….

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by Kurupt on Aug 27, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parrish is one guy I have never really given a serious thought to trading. He’s too valuable as a returner, whether he makes an impact at WR or not.

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Aug 27, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It made sense before the draft if we could get a third rounder for him in 2009 and that draft pick could contribute this year. To trade him for a draft pick for next year does nothing for the Bills this year and he’s not prohibitively expensive. Not a whole lot to gain from it.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My 2 cents

I am on my way out of town and haven’t read everyone else’s input so not sure if this is reiterating or going against the grain but here’s my thoughts:
It’s obvious by his not returning punts in the preseason that they are not shopping him. If they were they would probably be trying to show how valuable he is to a team by showcasing his returning skills. I still believe he is a hell of a receiver and is haunted by his small stature. It’s almost as if they’re afraid he’ll get hurt but he’s been pummeled over the middle and held on and bounced back up. Almost as if he can’t be hit that hard cause he is so small. Have you ever tried hitting a feather with a baseball bat? Not much impact. Just a thought. Also, it’s not just his ability to return kicks, it’s his judgement and ability to CATCH the punt. I can’t ever remember Roscoe muffing a punt, although much of my memory is floating in beer…He has such a high return average because he doesn’t catch punts that he’s sure he can’t return more than a yard before getting crushed. That’s not being skittish that’s just being smart. Don’t risk 2 return yards for a fumble or an injury. He has breathtaking moves and without him this team probably loses about 50 yards minimum a game in total field position without him fielding punts. His value on the market is crap as well and his value to our team is too high to let go.

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by willgarr15 on Aug 28, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parrish >> Reed

Why not start Parrish at the #3 WR spot ahead of Reed? Parrish is a playmaker. He has fewer receptions than Reed only because Reed already has the position. If given the opportunity, he’d prove that he’s a more capable receiver at the #3 spot than Reed is. The Bills’ need a spark on offense; having Parrish on the field more often will help.

by Flutie Flakes on Aug 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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