Offense putrid again as Bills blanked by Steelers
by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:21 PM EDT
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PrintMemo to Terrell Owens: keep that toe healthy, and please, for the love of the football gods, be the saving grace you were signed to be. Your Buffalo Bills teammates need you.
Much-maligned after three poor pre-season showings, Buffalo's offense didn't do a thing to quell doubts that they can put up points and win football games, managing just 50 yards and three first downs in the first half of a 17-0 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Trent Edwards had an interception returned for a touchdown by Steelers LB James Farrior, and his stat line (6/13, 31 yards, INT) left him with a quarterback rating of 21. The Bills held the ball for eight minutes and fourteen seconds in the first half.
It was ugly pretty much all around for the offense - and the defense and special teams didn't fare much better, either (though the defense should be commended for surrendering only 10 points while being on the field for over 41 minutes). The cap to the evening was a Rian Lindell field goal that was blocked, preserving the shutout for Pittsburgh.
If you're looking for a bright spot, steadfastly cling to Aaron Maybin; the first-round DE recorded a sack and two tackles in his first pre-season action. We'll get more in-depth with this game tomorrow. Right now, however, I'm betting you just want to vent. This is the place to do it.
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Actually, the toilet will usually flush and, if it doesn’t, can typically be fixed relatively easily. This is starting to feel more like waiting for the outhouse to flush. But, yeah, otherwise…
Deep breath, though, I’m going to hold out some hope that we have a few surprises left. Barring that, at least the Bills Backers meetings usually involve drink specials and buffalo wings. So there’s still something to look forward to. Right?
Right?!
Haha, waiting for the outhouse to flush! So perfectly apt!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2009 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fire Jauron Now
And promote the ONLY coach who has been effective on the Buffalo sideline since Teddy Cotrell left town.
Let the Bobby April Regime begin. Now. Please. We can’t fire the players at this point.
do you think an april-led team
could possibly fare worse than a Jauron-led team? At this point, why not? Ineffective is ineffective. Jauron ain’t leading this or any other team to the promised land. Maybe if we had Bill Plian build the team for him, but we didn’t and he is not going to make these guys win.
And if I hear “it’s the preseason” I’m going to puke. It’s also the preseason for the teams who have made our starters look like their practice squad this year.
I have been sickened by this team many times since 1999. None more than right now.
I have been sickened by this team many times since 1999. None more than right now.
Yikes. Might be time for you to prioritize the things that sicken you.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry--I was a Jauron Proponent at the beginning.
But I have had it. Jauron doesn’t inspire these guys. They don’t lay it out there for him. they are flat, a little confused and just downright awful. Look at the pop and the mannerism of the Pittburgh players. they believe. They have won, but they belive they are the better team and that they can win. Same with GB last week. Jauron doesn’t do that for our team. So yeah, that sickens me because I am a fan. I’d rather have them go down swinging than go down flat.
why would you want to trade out one ineffective leader with another
im not saying april is ineffective, but i dont think hes HC material. we need a coach that can take us to the next level, and lead us forwards not laterally. i dont think jauron can do that and i dont think april will be able to do that. penalties and a blocked FG are what we got from april tonight. the offense is anemic, but what jauron team hasnt had an anemic offense. but the last thing i want is for the FO to bring in a coach that cant move the team forward. cowher, shanahan, shotty, (not gruden) all have that capability.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Get your barf bag ready:
It is still only preseason.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
And we did the same thing to their starters last year. How’d that work out for them?
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
You want to fire a coach for preseason losses? Glad you’re not my boss.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Fire The Whole Coaching Staff Except April
I would give Jauron 5 games into the season. They need Shottzy or Cowher.
Rumor is that Tampa Bay wants to trade one of their 4 QB’s. If it’s Marshawn’s
cousin, Josh, I would jump on him. But they will want a lot for him. He will
still need to develop tho.
With or without TO, is it possible this O is worse? Poor OL and a QB who can play the Cowardly Lion without acting, this seems bad.
Imagine if TO is the magical elixir that turns us into the 99 Rams! Bwahahahaha!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2009 10:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes it is possible because Edwards is worse than he was at this time last year. He is afraid.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
He really sucks man
I really am disappointed. I thought this kid had something under the tank – but he doesn’t. I know we have TO but Trent is affraid of his shadow, how the hell is he going to get TO the ball?
I am completely discouraged
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Jauron post-game press conference
“I just wish we had more time…” Sound familiar, K?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
I assume he was talking about his tenure as the Bills head coach?
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Actually, that’s what Tricky Dick said back in preseason 2007 when the OL/running game was taking so long to gel. I’m anticipating a similar quote after tonight’s debacle. Funny how some things never change.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Debacle is a verb, Fort. Don’t you listen to Emmitt Smith?
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Please pardon my bad grammar.
I live in Fort Worth, TX. I hate the Cowboys more than the Patriots. I hate Emmitt, too.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Well I am think our record will change from 7-9 to less than 7-9.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
FW, for the love of Jeebus, please tell me you are joking. He could not have said that now…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty sure he didn’t.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Joking
But don’t you think that would be a reasonable excuse?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
You had me worried because its something we’ll be lucky to hear in 2 weeks.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For those of you expecting T.O. to save our offense,
be prepared to be disappointed.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
A crappy OL and gunshy QB can be masked by TO, I thought?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2009 10:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha, what am I going to do with all this popcorn?????
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
The OL looked pretty good tonight, K. Walker got beat once on a hold, but it didn’t count b/c that was the pick-six. Otherwise, Trent had time.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
3 sec is the min, not the max the O-line should give a QB
Granted Trent didn’t help them out, but the protection was not that good.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
He had far more than 3 seconds on most attempts. The one really bad play I recall was a whiff by Xavier Omon on a blitzer.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Was that a whiff or a complete destruction? I am thinking of Omon getting blown up.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
No, he was very much on his feet. He just whiffed.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 30, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
So it was a different play, then. Because I know he got run over at some point. The LB had to jump over him to get pressure. It may have been FItzy. It all blurs together.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
trent did have time
and when he was pressured he had plenty of places to step up and buy some more time. trent did none of that tonight. he felt the rush panicked and either threw it into the ground or at the other team. trent was playing very scared tonight.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I will have to watch the first part of the first half, but I was not left with the impression that the O-line was
dominant. I look forward to Ron’s breakdown.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Why does the line have to be dominant to be good? Can’t they just be good enough to give Edwards the chance to not suck?
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
All right, I will wait and see what the stop watch says. I now have a reason to watch the replay of the game.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
At this point, wouldn’t they HAVE to be dominant to achieve that? I think you answered yourself Brian. LOL
No, they wouldn’t HAVE to be dominant to achieve that. I was saying that they were good enough last night to give Edwards an opportunity to acquit himself.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 30, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
i didnt say dominate
but, he had plenty of opportunities to roll out of the pocket or simply step up into the pocket to give him 1-2 more seconds, which could have made all the difference. but when he got pressured, he panicked and nothing happened
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem wasn't the line!
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
keep it up
all this kid does is wins, no matter where he goes. he works hard every down and finds ways to win.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s only been to Florida!! Where else has he gone!?
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
people said he couldnt play qb in high school either
state breaking records and state title later…..oh wait i guess he can
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa the second half of that comment made no sense
broken state records and a state title later, i guess they were wrong….there that sounds better
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Its me and you vs the world man..........
I feel your pain
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i know
i mean hes thrown for tons of yardage, can obviously roll out of the pocket to make plays, and is probably one of the best leaders to come through college football in years. his work ethic is amazing. he plays through injuries most people would not, hes a huge dude that can obviously take a hit….but i mean hes obviously not gonna be good in the nfl…..i just dont get it
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Tebow, but he has to prove he can make plays with his arm
Running as much as he does in college will get you killed in the NFL.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
he makes plays with his arm
but having a mobile qb adds a lot to what an offense can do. check this article out if you arent sold on tebow over bradford. its an interesting read
http://si.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Tim+Tebow+poised+to+pass+Vince+Young+as+all-time+greatest+player+-+Stewart+Mandel+-+SI.com&expire=&urlID=409452812&fb=Y&url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/27/tim-tebow/index.html&partnerID=2356
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that didnt work, just copy and paste i guess
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Still not working for me
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
I think this is the article he’s trying to post
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/08/27/tim-tebow/index.html
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at all the “all-time great” Qbs on the list….and name one that mattered in the NFL. Palmer is the only legitimate one.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i was more going for comparing him to bradford and mccoy
on page two
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Best stats to support Tebow can succeed
• Once again, Tebow’s rushing numbers far exceed those of two highly decorated “mobile” quarterbacks, Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick.
• To anyone who likes to suggest Tebow is a product of Urban Meyer’s system, note how much higher he scored than Meyer’s star quarterback at Utah, Alex Smith, despite Smith’s higher winning percentage.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
So your argument is an article on how great of a college QB Tebow is based on a formula where the other 4 QBs in the all-time top 5 are Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Eric Crouch and Danny Wuerfel?
There is no denying Tebow’s athleticism and the fact that his intangibles might be the best ever. But since when does being a winner in college transfer over to being a winner in the Pros? Who are the other college QBs who won like Tebow and which ones actually panned out? Of the best QBs in the NFL, were any of them given credit for being great winners in college?
no my argument
is that tebow is better than bradford and mccoy. for all the flack tebow takes about “running too much” or not " passing enough" look at his stats. he does pass, he runs also but his numbers as compared to big 12 qb’s which apparently play no defense, is on par and people should give more credit to tebows passing skills.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody is going to argue that those guys are better college QBs than Tebow. But take Tebow out of the Urban Meyer offense, take his superior talent away and put him in the NFL and Sam Bradford is way better. Just an opinion of course.
Bradford obviously has a ton of talent around him too. But I’d take Florida’s talent any day of the week.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i honestly think
bradford will be a good qb in this league. quite possibly a franchise qb. but he doesnt contain anything over tebow, in talent, or leadership, or attitude. i think with those tebow beats bradford out. id rather have the more talented guy with intangibles…..
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He's 230 lbs......
bigger than MOST NFL RB’s!!!!!
Hell bigger than most of the LB’s on our team.
He wont get killed.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
wait till after this year
tebow has one class, thats only one credit. he graduates in dec. his ENTIRE life will be football. he says hes looking forward to being in the coaches room and doing study for every game more intensely than ever before. this kid is a beast, and teams will be dumb to pass him up
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could have graduated college taking one class in a semester!! (ala Matt Leinart taking one dance class)
And yes, I know he took many other “challenging” classes before that. But, I will give him props for being one of the few guys to actually finish school.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah well they take classes in the summer and stuff too.
did you want to do that?
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no! Then again, the fall is a joke semester, since they have better things to do.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I did and it saved me a pile of cash instead of paying for another full semester
(443): My mom came into my room and told me to flip off the tv. I gave it the middle finger. Note to self: STOP SMOKING THIS S#!T
-textsfromlastnight.com
Right now, I have Tebow #3 behind Bradford and Snead, but ahead of McCoy.
Everyone talks about how loaded this QB class is, but I just don’t see it. LOTS of question marks.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
snead is a sleeper
but is also good. i would go tebow/snead then bradford then mccoy
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot better then last years class…..
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Stafford and Sanchez were last year’s class…..
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d take either Stafford or Sanchez over anyone in next april’s draft (for now) and I think Freeman is a much better prospect than Tebow or McCoy. This year’s class might end up being a lot deeper, but I’ll take the talent at the top of the 09 class over the 2010 class any day.
LOL Freeman?
puuuullllleeeeaaassssseeeeeee guy is the next Jamarcus Russell
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’d take Russel over Tebow and McCoy too. At least, if Tebow is only allowed to play QB. I’d actually like to draft Tebow in the 2nd round as a wildcat QB, very, very long term QB prospect and FB/HB/TE.
Russel?????
This two brain cells are busy helping him walk and talk.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
You like fat guys and skinny women.
Russell is a fat guy.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Still trying to figure out what exactly that means……but its amusing none-the-less
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a sig of mine over the summer
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
yeah, but all of his fat is between his ears
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Russell is horrible….a perfect Raiders QB! Completion percentages barely over 50%, has a cannon but no clue how to use it.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
at least hes cheaper than russell
the guy that somehow vaulted to number one status because of the sugar bowl. remember when they played florida that year, russell got smashed. and hes turning into such a good qb in the nfl too….oh wait. a 55% comp rating, and a 6.4 yds per compl. i dont think hell ever live up to the number one billing.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you say that when they haven't even had a chance to show what they can do
this season yet. Why is it so hard to think that at least one of them will take a big step this season?
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
That’s definitely surprising to me. Stafford just didn’t seem that great to me, and I watched a lot of UGA games. I just don’t see it, but I could be wrong. And Sanchez just didn’t seem that amazing to me, although he can handle the pressure of NY coming from USC.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s more of an indictment on the 2010 class then anything else. I havn’t made up my mind on Bradford yet, but I don’t think Tebow or McCoy are NFL QBs.
Got ya. But if Bradford (and maybe McCoy) came out last year, he would have been #1….easily.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, There isn’t a circumstance where I would draft Tebow or McCoy in the first round regardless of how this year plays out. Going on all the draft eligible QBs, I’d put Jimmy Clauson 3rd behind Bradford and Snead.
Arm strength and accuracy. There’s a lot of potential there, he was a big time recruit just a couple years ago.
Jimmy Clauson
Is that the Notre Dame kid? If so I would rather gouge out my left eye then see a golden domer at the helm.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
accuracy?
clausen is a career 58-59% passer. tebow is around 66%. arm strength? tebow has tons of arm strength
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it is not scientific,
but the kids just seems to have it. Flutie and Garcia were to short but somehow found a way to get it done. There is no denying that Tebow is a leader with passion for the game. He will get the chance to be the face of some NFL franchise.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
i agree
stature will not prove whether you are a good qb or not. but clausen has shown hardly anything in two years….so….yeah
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, most guys don’t look like NFL QBs as true sophomores. I think Clauson breaks out this year. I think he’s got all the tools and his mechanics are ahead of the curve.
he better break out
hes only playing one ranked team, and then hes got washington and washington state who between them only won one game. and that was because they had to play each other. and he plays stanford, and nevada, and navy and uconn….what a power house sched! he better put up amazing numbers or else he really isnt gonna be worth anything.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, NW S. Dakota State of Eastern Connecticut is ranked in Div. 4A! They are a quality opponent getting $2 mil to play Notre Dame!
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Clauson could really break out this year though. I think he throws a much better ball than Tebow. He may not throw the ball as hard as Tebow does, but his mechanics are years ahead. He has the touch on short and intermediate throws that Tebow lacks. Tebow throws a better deep ball though, probably by a lot.
see now i completely disagree
after watching tebow almost every game for the last two years as a starter, i would say his biggest problem is the deep throw. sure he can throw it down there, but he usually over-throws or is just off-target. his intermediate and short game are his bread and butter.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
and another thing
you are counting on clausen to have a break out year? tebow has had two great years, but you are arguing youd take the kid you “think” may be better this year than previously. i just dont get that argument. and im not calling you out, ive heard it everywhere when it comes to arguments against tebow
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
For me, Tebow’s stats are practically irrelevant. He plays in an offense that doesn’t require him to do any of the things that NFL QBs do. Like read a defense or go through progressions. His footwork is abysmal. His throwing mechanics are almost as bad. He’s lefthanded. He’s overly reliant on his feet (partially due to the Meyer scheme requiring it), his accuracy on short and intermediate throws is somewhere between questionable and poor. He doesn’t have much touch when it comes to how much arm strength to put on the shorter passes. Scouts are going to completely dismantle Tebow as a QB over the next year.
He’s one of the best college players ever, but rarely are the best college QBs guys who can even start in the NFL.
we shall see. but you know i disagree
and what does this have to do with anything…..
He’s lefthanded.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
different spin on the ball. It’s weird for coaches to break down the mechanics with everything being on the other side. Teams really do downgrade lefthanded QBs.
Steve Young and Boomer Esaison were lefthanded and Vick and Leinart were both high picks as lefties. But if a team isn’t going to start somebody and doesn’t consider them to be an elite level prospect, they usually don’t want to deal with lefthanded QBs. There are only 5 or so in the entire league.
How much does Big Ben weigh?
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
241
ben was never seen as a “runner” tho. ben seems to be built differently than tebow in my opinion. more a dumpy guy
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He is listed at 241 lbs and has been banged up without being know as a running QB
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Yeah – this is an argument w/o any answer until after a few years in the pros.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
A WR receiver
even an excellent one like T.O. is not going to make this Buffalo Bills team a scoring machine. The QB and the line is what we should be more concerned about. TE is here to stay, so figure out what’s the deal with him or except a bad season and T.O. to make it worse with his mouth.
Actually, we’re just lulling the Patriots to sleep with overconfidence for the season opener!
Ouch
Dear Trent,
Grow a pair and make more then a check-down, your killing me…..
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
its not the check downs in my book
he had a really good checkdown to rhodes that got like 17 yards. its that he doesnt have very good pocket awareness. hes afraid to get hit, or something. i cant quite put my finger on it.
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The dude has been hit a BAJILLION times in his career......
thats not his problem………because if it was……he wouldnt keep coming back.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A check down that accounted for more then 50% of his yards…..so much for down-field passing….
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not denying that this game was horrible but...
Can we at least show the defense a little love. I’m these poor guys had to stay on the field 41 minutes to the offense 18, and they only allowed 10 points. I didn’t get to watch it but maybe this could be a little silver lining? If not you can tell me, the game must of been awful to watch.
by MichiganBillsFan84 on Aug 29, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
They did generally do a good job. Same as last year – its hard to fault them when they spend a whole game on the field (and too often with their backs against the wall)
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 29, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Either this team is horrible............
or Richard Jauron is the smartest man in the world for lulling the rest of the NFL into a false sense of security.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes, I feel a lot like Melvin Fowler. I stick my nose in there with my optimism, and then Vince Wilfork the pessimism flattens me like a pancake.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
you can polish a turd all you want..........but at the end of the day......
its still a turd.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Are y’all the turds in that scenario, or am I? :(
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The team is the turd.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but a polished turd looks better. The Bills look like a fresh turd still steaming in the grass.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Its still a POS!
~K
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by Kurupt on Aug 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No fooling. I didn’t even want to log on this morning or last night.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the defense.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I will catch the replay tomorrow.
How did Byrd look?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Good and bad.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Versus
the run or the pass? Any big plays allowed? Out of position? Look lost?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Missed an open field tackle badly. Had a nice stop in the backfield on I believe a 3rd or 4th and 1.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
still waiting to see some of those ball hawking skills.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Ball hawking skills
That’s why they drafted a safety at #8 in 2006. Whoops…
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
Hard to show them when your gassed and the other team has no need to throw it your way
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Maybin's sack was fun to watch
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
all because of a "corner" blitz
ahahaha double meanings are fun
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he beat a starter or scrub to get the sack, or was it against air?
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
to be honest
corner came on a blitz that forced ben up, which happened to be where maybin was. a sack is still a sack. but it was like a dominate move or something that got him there. it was against starters tho
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He beat Max Starks, their starting LT.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't see it either
And from the way it sounds, there is NO WAY I am turning on Sportscenter today.
Chris Brown’s recap, an excerpt:
The first team offense thus far this preseason has had 15 possessions not counting Saturday’s possession that lasted two plays at the end of the first half. They have a field goal to show for their efforts with five turnovers and nine punts. Their drives have crossed midfield just three times. And they have been outscored by the defensive units they’ve faced 7-3 after Pittsburgh’s interception return Saturday.
Who says he’s a biased journalist?
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
ahhahaha
the defenses the 1st team has played has out scored them! wow! i had no idea it was that bad
by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah most of the time I dont agree with CB......
but right now….he’s spot on
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
those are the ugly facts.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Tough job
having to keep your tongue in your cheek all the time…
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
I still believe
that DJ is like Darth Sideous who has a secret switch and will reveal his “completed and fully opertational death Star.”
Truth is I am really irritated by the game, but I honestly think that they’ll play differently in the reg season. I do think TO can and will make a difference. I also believe that this team starts slow but can put it together as the game wears on.
I do think that Ralph Wilson has to have a team mtg and make it clear to every single person on the team that he will clean house completely if they loose more than 6 games. The burden is not just on DJ, but all the coaches, and players. Evans could end up like Moulds. Fewell like Jerry Gray, who is coaching DBs in Washing, and list goes. I do think someone needs to light a fire under their . . .
just a hell of a game
17-0 gave no indication on how badly the Buffalo Bills got their asses kicked. Simply put it was total and complete domination in Offense, Defense and Special Teams. The Steelers totally controlled field position and time of possession. And whenever the steelers needed a completion to get a first down, their QBs found the open man and converted on 3rd downs. But what killed them was the time of possession and field position. Because when you play Pittsburgh and don’t win either of those things you are playing their game and your going to lose. The Steelers are a team who prefers to use the clock as their weapon as most smash mouth type teams do. The Bills offense was completely unable to score. They couldn’t even move the ball far enough to get an edge on field position(despite great punts by Moorman) and didn’t burn hardly any time off the clock. Dick Jauron can harp on turnovers all he wants but keeping the defense on the field that long even with backups is suicide. And overall I thought the defense did well.
4 Words sum it up:
There just not good.
(Sorry to play Capt Obvious but that’s the bottom line I guess.. LOL )
There is one sure-fire way to make a run at a championship season
We petition the UFL for immediate inclusion in their league.
(Just kidding. Honestly, I want something to smile about, but, despite this just being a preseason game, I feel like I’ve been kicked in the groin).
Are the Bills the only team
that consistently, in general (preseason or regular season), use excuses like: “we had to play against the 3-4, we don’t practice against that, we didn’t seen that on film, etc.” for poor performance? Whatever happened to using your instincts, reacting to what you see, improvising, adjusting, and simply playing the game? It’s like the Bills have to be perfectly rehearsed in order to play, or else they don’t know what to do…
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
by Fort Worth on Aug 29, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Or, you know, actually practicing for WHAT you will be seeing? Its not like they played a team known for the 4-3 that came out in the 3-4
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Is Jeff George still available?
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Boooo. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem is that there is no other real options out there
Plus, until Jauron gets the boot, we are stuck enduring this crap.
How many loses before he gets canned?
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FEED the BEAST!
I still don't see how he gets fired midyear...
Ralph hasn’t done it in 20 years and Gregg Williams went on to finish 3-13.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
So? It hasn’t happened in 20 years because we had Levy for so long, and the other coaches weren’t around long enough to really earn the right to be fired midseason!!!
Gregg Williams was in his first year. No coach gets the ax then. Jauron is in year 4 and the team looks no better than when he took over, even if there is more talent. If we start out poorly, the fans will be going bonkers. You can bet that firing DJ midseason will be a strong consideration.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The Bills were 4-7 in Williams last year and he didn’t get fired. I don’t think it’s very likely Jauron will get fired midyear.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Jauron a mastermind ?
Is he keeping the good stuff close to the vest? Can our team really be this bad?
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
in spite of all the dross and trash
it appears that a few people had good games. moorman looks great (LOL!).
He's on pace if this keeps up for yet another Pro-bowl visit, well, at least that Moorman jersey I own gets some respect from other teams...
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I can’t believe how little excitement I’ve developed for this season. And it’s not even fully due to this craptastic preseason. Dick Jauron is just such a terrible head coach that it’s tough to feel any excitement towards his lame duck season. Unless some miracle happens, the writing is on the wall for how this season plays out. Why does it have to be so difficult for this franchise?!?!?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 30, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
if I could.........
I would rec’d this eleventy billion times
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
All I wanted was a little hope for this preseason. I have zero at this point. I will be surprised if we win 5 games with Checkwards playing even remotely as bad as he is now . You cannot win with Dick Jauron and a QB that is afraid to do anything. As bad as I think Fitzpatrick is, I’m having thoughts that he might give us a better chance to run a decent offense, and at least utilizing our weapons.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Unfortunately..........I thought this exact same thing during the game which is why I wanted Fitzy to start the 2nd half
I’m having thoughts that he might give us a better chance to run a decent offense, and at least utilizing our weapons.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 30, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
At least he’s shown some desire to get the ball downfield. That’s the only reason I’m thinking he might give us a boost. I still think he’s a pretty poor QB though..
UGH!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
wouldnt matter if we had Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or whoever you wanted as a QB
with the guys we have coaching them up.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 30, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
This is true
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I honestly think part of Trents problem is
that he’s trying too damn hard to be perfect………He knows his coach and his career is pretty much riding on this year……and so he’s pressing….instead of just winging it because he doesnt want to make mistakes…..and thus….he’s doing exactly that. Making mistakes.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 30, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
If that is the case, then Trent doesn't have the mental makeup to be a successful NFL QB
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Agreed
Yesterday I said I was being a pessimistic realist going 7-9. Now I realize I was being WAY too optimistic. I say 5 wins tops also. The schedule is BRUTAL this year, and at this rate T.O. will have Checkwards in the fetal position sucking his thumb by week 3 after he realizes what a mistake he made.
Well, we lost to the Super Bowl champions. I guess we’re going 0-16. Let’s hope the players don’t give up before the season starts like most everyone around here has…
Yeah that's right
It’s just the preseason, and it was the SB champs, so who’d expect anything less than utter annihilation. Oh well it doesn’t really matter anyway…. DJ is that you???!!!
Anyone who thought this team had the talent on either side of the ball to go toe-to-toe with a team like Pittsburgh was drinking drano from the start. The way people have given up on this team is pathetic.
by Mark Parisi on Aug 30, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, we play the Lions next.....what do you think......to much talent?
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
Its the way we lost...
Just doesn’t seem that we’re in the same league as these guys man…i know they r superbowl champs and all that but c’mon there no excuse we look terrible ALL around, and i honestly believe we have some talent just NO coaching this guy is terrible, shows no emotions as if nothin is going on its ridiculous and i dont wanna ear da same ol’ crap about his style of coachin ok when ur team is gettin their a$$ kicked like dat any normal human-being would be LIVID! just like i am…
by FocusedKnowledge on Aug 30, 2009 1:46 AM EDT reply actions
It’d be nice if he laid into his lackluster bunch of players. That might be asking too much though!!!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He didn’t look happy during most of the game. He would never do it in public so let’s hope he uncorked some on them in the locker room or his office.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
10 pts...
the only reason why we only gave up 10 its bc we played Pitt which loves to chew up that clock thats what they do…they were doing everythin they wanted with us its sad…
by FocusedKnowledge on Aug 30, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions
We looked like the worse team in the NFL
No team has looked this bad trough the preseason this year. No team. Our defense is OK, but the offense is the worst I’ve seen, and has gotten worse.
I know, Walker looked bad, and Parrish is a joke on the outside…but Trent looks terrible, and he is as afraid as his coach.
I would not be surprised to see 3-13 by the way they are playing. New coach, new QB on the horizon. Get ready…but as always, Go Bills
The Bills CAN win any game
whoa whoa
did you see the oakland game? they looked terrible! worse than the bills i would say
by silverstreak3k on Aug 30, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
didn't see it
but, better than Oakland, isn’t much
The Bills CAN win any game
by killascript on Aug 30, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Walker didn’t look bad. I thought Walker played all right actually.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
weird, sad game
thats about it. I am still hoping, but the worst part is, I actually contemplated not coming on here for a while….HA!
The Bills CAN win any game
by killascript on Aug 31, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think that… I just avoided it for 12 hours or so…
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 31, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
BUT...
I think they played much better tonight than the yd did againts GB. Rhodes is not a RB that should see playing tim apart from 3rd downs in my opinion, and the beast did well tonight. Trent still is trentative, but looked more comfortable to me. His int’s are almost never that bad, i have to think it was some sort of blown read/route.
By far the most terrible sign to me is still the copmlete lack of pass rush. Even on maybin’s sack, ben was in a position where a sack wasnt the end of the world, it was either TD or field goal.
Also, i’d say trent could be a good QB, but copmleetely lacks pocket presence. I dont know if its something that he himself lacks, or its something that the chemistry between him and the line produces.
Sorry for the typos,
Where the F#*@ was Steve Johnson? Did i miss something??
by thebillsmakemewannapout on Aug 30, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
His int’s are almost never that bad, i have to think it was some sort of blown read/route.
I was watching on my laptop, so I can’t replay it. But from what remember, it was a horrible throw to a guy who was covered. No bad read, no blown route, no exotic formation…….just a bad decision.
"When troops flee, are insubordinate, collapse, or are routed in battle, it is the fault of the general." – Sun Tzu. Yes Jauron, I am talking to you.
His int’s are almost never that bad
The one he threw yesterday was pathetic. He threw it behind Reed and late, without even seeing Farrior there. Just horrible.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Reed stopped running, too.
If he had kept running it would have hit him in the side or Farrior would have had to go through Reed to make the pick. It wasn’t a good play regardless.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He was out there. The one play I remember from him his man blitzed on a run play and he was running around trying to find a guy to block and popped a safety right before the whistle.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Steve Johnson that is.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 30, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately...
I think with ours schedule 7-9 would be an improvement
by thebillsmakemewannapout on Aug 30, 2009 2:29 AM EDT reply actions
7 - 9 = 7 - 9
I see your point, but over the last three years has the team gotten better? Worse? Or are we just a below average team searching for mediocrity?
Last year
I think we were an average team underachieveing. This year I think so far we look like a sleeper that is about as ready for bed as I am. Whatever that means. Sometone take the spell check off…
by thebillsmakemewannapout on Aug 30, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I have just woken up and checked the score.
I think i am going back to bed, will someone wake me up in January!!!!! Or when the coaching staff gets fired and is replace by the coaches from Buffalo High school!
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Oh my
Oh my, oh my. While preseason, this team is in no shape to play games that matter. I don’t even know if it’s coaching or players. There has to be something we can attribute this inefficiencies to.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 30, 2009 3:10 AM EDT reply actions
There just doesn't seem
to be a philosophy to anything we do, or at least one that translates to the field. The coaching staff changes to a no huddle offense, and it looks chaotic. Our defense is supposed to be a 4-3 Tampa 2, lighter, quicker, and speed emphasized. But we are small and slow. How do you put your finger on the root of these problems? I contradict myself every year, I blame the coaches, then I think we just aren’t as talented as other teams. Games like this really leave you wondering where to draw hope.
Receivers looked pathetic..
If You watched Pittsburgh’s receivers,they were looking for a pass to be thrown to them..Buffalo receivers were looking anywhere BUT at the QB..If Roscoe had any trade value before last night,he played his way out of that..Our receivers hung Trent out to dry..Not that He looked any too impressive,but He had nothing to work with..OL gave Trent enough time to pass I thought,but he had no where to go with it..
On defense,I thought our Safeties looked horrible..Standing around and waiting for a receiver to catch a pass and then make a hit..Pittsburgh Safeties got right in there and made plays..I’m thinking that instead of any plan next week,our coaches should just get busy getting a resume ready..Terrible coaching leads to lackluster performance,and that’s what we have..Just my opinion tho..
by FanFromThe80s on Aug 30, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
Too Soon??
Is it too soon to call 411 and get Bill Cohwer’s number?
by Jim- Long Island NY on Aug 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
You actually think he’d answer our call?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think he would
He strikes me as a lunch pail type type of guy, a guy that would look for a loyal fan base with less media. Obviously the money would be important but I get the feeling he wouldn’t like the Jerry Jones or Dan Snyders of this world.
Maybe I’m wrong but I think his priorities are:
1) Money
2) Challenge
3) Lunch pail type attitude town
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
I think Wilson would be willing.
He ain’t getting any younger. Cower is not a flash in the pan, he’s a very proven commodity. We don’t have a GM in place now anyway and Brandon is certainly not a true GM. Cower is a “lunch pail” type of guy, that could bring a winning attitude to this young team.
You have to think that with Ralph’s age, just getting up in the morning must be hard, let alone run a football team. Handing over some control to a qualified proven coach/GM such as Cower would be very feasible. Another advantage is that it would instantly and dramatically improve the value of the team in the eventuality of the sale. Then factor in the added possibility of maybe getting to see his team make it to the promised land before he kicks the bucket, I am pretty convinced that Ralph would not hesitate in giving cower full control.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
My issue with Shanahan is on the personel side, his defenses usually are less than stellar and he doesn’t seem able to draft them either. I love the way he can make a tin can into a 1000+yards ball carrier, which definitely opens things up for the passing but the guy seems so full of himself that he cannot surround himself with a good defensive guy?
I don’t hate him but i’d much prefer Cower and I also think Cower fits the type of guy that Wilson would be willing to give the keys to.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Cowher yes
But you know, they would be the top two guys. I also wish Shottenheimer was a little younger, because I am a big fan of his
The Bills CAN win any game
The Bills’ failed to convert any of their eight third downs
Yuck Tim Graham
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