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2009 Bills Training Camp: Day 12 Open Thread

The Buffalo Bills take the field for their final night practice (and penultimate public practice) before their first pre-season game of the 2009 NFL season in just about a half an hour.  Just as we've done throughout camp, we'll be doing our best to keep track of all of the comings and goings at practice, with one minor difference - MattRichWarren won't be going it alone tonight.  I'll be there with him.

This open thread will therefore work differently - updates will come via Matt's twitter feed, and in my case, in the comments section below.  I'll do my best to answer questions for you guys, but honestly, I plan on having my eyes on the field far more frequently than I do on my mobile device.  Head on into the comments for tonight's action.

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Here waiting for Matt to arrive with my ticket. He is slow.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 6:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This doesn’t seem to be uncommon…

by Ghetts on Aug 6, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check the time...

it’s a half hour before practice starts. Who needs to be there to watch autograph sessions?

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The answer is me.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently...

for someone who told me he was going to be late… :-)

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don't call them slow.

It is called mentally challenged :-)

"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde

by Joe P. on Aug 6, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt's twitter feed...

Dude, there’s kids reading this site! Matt’s twitter should be left out of the conversation… : )

by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 6, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Matt arrive yet? The suspense is killing me!

by Ghetts on Aug 6, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we get a picture that wouldn’t seem out of place with a caption like: Edwards again asks TO not to question his sexuality.

Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner

by Ron From NM on Aug 6, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Trent: C’mon now, I told you a hundred times, TO, I don’t get down that way.

by thejimbo on Aug 6, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

TO: But I just saw you put your hands near that guy’s sack!
Trent: How else is he going to snap me the ball?
TO: SHOTGUN?!?!

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 6, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt is not tweeting. I am too amped up to post much, but will do my best. I have eyes for 5 tonight.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I am looking for one LONG and EXTENSIVE summary afterwards then ;)

by Ghetts on Aug 6, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So how does Trent look tonight?

by Ghetts on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Late. Late on throws. Still a bit tentative. But relaxed and confident as well. Kid needs to play

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 8:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Relaxed … This is how every QB felt last year with our pathetic pass rush. Hope this change this year.

by hightower_mc on Aug 6, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Butler undressed. Same with Bryan. Stevie j has pads on and is running routes. Do not see hardy

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Just so long as TO doesn’t catch Trent Edwards staring at undressed Brad Butler it should all be okay…

Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner

by Ron From NM on Aug 6, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, beat me to it. well done.

by thejimbo on Aug 6, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Position drills right now. Nelson is a monster. Leodis is working but well see if he goes full contact

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

April has the team working on the punt game. Ryan Neill doing the long snapping

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Pat Thomas just had a sweet block on a moorman punt

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Is roscoe the only one back deep or do they have anyone else (such as lankster) rotating in since mckelvin is out?

"I'm going to talk to Mike and see what he has to say and see what he thinks he needs. But there are going to be some changes. What's that old song? 'There are going to be some changes made'? Frankly I forget the words beyond 'there are going to be some changes made.'" -Ralph Wilson, Jr.

by LONNIEJOHNSON on Aug 6, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Mckelvin is in. 11 22 33 returning in that orders

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

do we have a 44? :)

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 8:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Omon. He’s not. Bruce Hall was getting some reps there but not anymore.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

attitude

I caught one post the other night comparing edwards to kelly…I was in buffalo during the k-gun era but living down south now…kelly was a q-back with a linebackers mentality, thomas was that ‘cocky’ kid that believed he could do anything…has anyone seen any swagger from any of these guys yet?

by danop55 on Aug 6, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that kind of swagger. They haven’t done anything to earn walking around like that yet.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody – Dustin fox maybe – just ran a fake punt. For a first down. Bobby April is swesome

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Justin Jenkins can really play. Just caught a long ball from 10. Bell still in at RT for 60

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How is Bell looking?

by Ghetts on Aug 6, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Par for the course. Rough around the edges.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have my computer right in front of me at work right now, but I feel the need to mobile comment because of how amazing it is. God bless the SB Nation peoples for letting Brian comment while attending Training Camp.

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It is addicting

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s like giving a heroin addict permission to shoot up in public.

actually not really.

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see you’re back to the computer haha

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 8:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m a mover and a shaker, just got out of work. Back on the heroinberry.

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 6, 2009 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I haven’t figured it out yet but is there a way to go directly to new comments like with the computer and the letter “z”?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, this using my memory stuff just feeds the addiction.

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 7, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eric wood just tossed 90 like a rag doll in blocking drill

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I friggin love this kid. He’s a monster. I’m so happy we got him and the Pats didn’t. double happiness.

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 6, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If anybody missed it, that was pure, unadulterated glee from K.

by WhyBillsWhy on Aug 6, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

95 with a sack. Beat levitre with ease

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

63 snaps the ball over Trent’s head. That was ugly. Bell getting second team reps at
RT as well

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 7:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Omon just had a sweet fingertip grab on a screen pass

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nelson just struggled with neill in pass pro. Yeah. That neill.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 8:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

more interested in pass catch than pro

his protection will come, we need him for TDs and first downs

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 6, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neill gets reps at DE??? I thought he was pretty much a pure long snapper.

Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner

by Ron From NM on Aug 6, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scout team defense.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

17 just tipped a 10 deep ball over 27 and 37 to himself for the score. Sick play. His teammates went nuts

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 8:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Doing some walk through at the moment. Kinda Boring

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 8:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Stretching. Looks like another early quit. Well have a recap later as usual. Ask questions. Ill get to them when I get home.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 8:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Really great stuff on Jenkins. I like how our receiving corps are coming into their own. It’s going to make our secondary work that much harder.

Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.

by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 6, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Do they have to end practice early every day? Toughen these cats up Jauron. Going easy on them now keeps them weak!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 8:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I was just thinking the same thing.

by WhyBillsWhy on Aug 6, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see every now and then or if its 2pm on a super hot day, but its seemingly every day. This is still a young team that hasn’t won a thing. You’d think they might do everything they could for an advantage…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So right. This being sot has got to end.

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 6, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

soft

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 6, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...But...But,

Juaron is a players coach. How is all of his players supposed to love him if he is tough on them?

"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde

by Joe P. on Aug 6, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine what we’d be saying if there was a rash of serious injuries:

Damn Jauron! How dare he ride the guys so hard! Doesn’t he have any common sense?

Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner

by Ron From NM on Aug 6, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all fairness
Damn Jauron! How dare he ride the guys so hard! Doesn’t he have any common sense?

I don’t think practicing hard has ever been linked to more injuries, has it? Were Byrd, Leo, Nelson, Butler, Johnson, anyone else I missed, practicing hard when they got hurt?

And, That’s what she said.

"I BET YOU IF WE PUT A 12 DOZEN GLAZE DONUTS AT THE OTHER END ON KICK RETURN JAIME DUKES WILL BE OUR NUM # 1 RETURNER …… HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES DUKE APPLE PIE PUNKEN EATER DWINKE SMASHER DING DONG FLABER" - abayarde

by Joe P. on Aug 6, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

either way

I hope that the team has the intensity to win down the long road of the season. Club Marv was considered soft in the 90s and we had alot of success. I just have seen a weaker team than our competition too many times, and if Jauron’s approach is going to prove itself to be right he has to light a fire under the players no matter how it happens

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 6, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re very dinged up right now. They’re trying to keep their numbers up for the game in Canton. That’s all it is.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"Our style is simple but not that easy. Roll up your sleeves and play good, solid football." -- Marv Levy

by Brian Galliford on Aug 6, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d believe that more if this wasn’t their mantra for every preseason

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Aug 6, 2009 11:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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