2009 Bills Training Camp: Day 13 Open Thread
by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
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PrintWe are just two short Buffalo Bills training camp practices away from the Bills' first pre-season game of the 2009 season. (And one of those practices, which takes place on Saturday morning, isn't even open to the public.) With a busy Bills Saturday looming in Canton, Ohio, we'll focus for one more day on Bills practice before the exciting weekend starts.
Updates are forthcoming in the comments; the workout starts at 2:25 PM. We'll recap later on this afternoon.
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Bad angle today. On the small field. Gonna be a lot of d line updates.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ends are playing tag. Literally. Running in tight circles to simulate bending the edge while rushing.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The drills they do these days
They are very entertaining, along with being fulfilling. Next thing you know there’s going to be some form of Red Rover going on. :)
by Dyl on Aug 7, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d hate to be holding hands with some guy like Moorman if Lynch or Stroud was being sent over.
by Dyl on Aug 7, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I stood feet from Chris kelsay today. Let me just say that k’s beat down would be swift and furious.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kyle Williams looks really impressive in individual drills. Zero wasted movement. 97 looking good as well. 93 and 94 not so much and for different reasons
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ends working on rush moves. Sanders is on Ellis’ case pretty hard. Schobel looks great here
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Now bull rushes for the ends. Stints for the tackles. A Palmer looking good in coverage drills at LB
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I really think Palmer makes the PS unless someone gets injured and has a great chance to make the team next year as backup. The kid is as athletic as they come. I see a bit of a Freddy Jack story for him.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 7, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Heard through the grapevine this morning that J Byrd worked out this morning for the coaches and looked highly impressive. Still a ways away from practice clearance
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Go Byrd!
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Moving to full team work
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Terrible views today. Doing run work now. Bills are enviably talented at RB
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There will be when they move past run work. LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
A few. Mostly to Rhodes. He got dinged up by the way, as did Spencer Johnson
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
26 is sitting out today. Hurt again. Who is surprised?
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Run blocking looking spotty at best. Not a lot to work with. 95 is the best player on the field
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Watching the quarterbacks now
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Footwork drills right now. Trent makes the rest of these guys look like small children
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Now working on stepping up in the pocket. Kinda boring. 16 is hard to watch
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
working on rolling left away from the rush. Trent very technically sound. Fitz is quite the athlete
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Special teams right now. Kick return. Wedge looks strange
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 2:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Creepy man standing next to me is freaking me out. I need an adult. Oh and they’re working on onside kicks
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
7 on 7. Trent’s first throw is a thing of beauty to Owens
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tipped ball intended for 83. Whitner misses a diving attempt at the pick
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
look at that Donte is actually trying to make a play.
by eze on Aug 7, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Trying to make a play has never been a problem for Donte. He’s always just a step behind, whether it be for a pass breakup or an interception. The difference between Whitner and Pro Bowlers and possible future Hall of Famers like Reed and Polamalu is that they are in the right place to make those plays and pick off those tipped passes. Rarely do you see a ball tipped high in the air hit the ground against Baltimore or the Steelers, but that seems to be a regular occurrence against this team. If the team can’t be opportunistic on both sides of the ball, mediocrity will continue to follow.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Aug 7, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Donte???
Man I am bummed I am not there now. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitz throws a beauty to scuba Steve. His next one was not as pretty. He needs a little more consistency. Nowhere near a nightmare though
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Watching the epic long snapping battle right now. Neill has a clear advantage
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What a tool.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t look bad yesterday per se. He just didn’t look great.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Much better, yes
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nowhere near a nightmare though
I’ll take it!!
by bluecollarbuffalo on Aug 7, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
Another beauty from Trent to Terrell in traffic. Followed up by a nice lankster pick off 5
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hey Brian,
Make sure you check out the depth of the throws. Dumpoffs vs. 10-15 yards vs. 20 or longer. I know Kurupt was worried.
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I would say that maybe 1 out of 8 Trent throws were short
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good to hear,
Thanks.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 8, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Leo with an easy pick on a terrible baker decision
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Moving to 11 on 11. Owens drops a pass. Evans gets an end around.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Guess we gotta expect some drops from him this year. 81 better put it in the endzone though.
by eze on Aug 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Scuba Steve doing a full practice again today?
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Just after the character in Big Daddy. I don’t think it’s anything specific. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't speak for everyone, but
I liked the nickname Scuba Steve because his first name is Steve (duhhh) and he was flying swimming under the radar last year.
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and yeah, it was also a Big Daddy reference.
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He did indeed and looked very good
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great 20 yard throw from 5 to 80 down the seam
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What a boy, there’s the pass that we need trent to make.
by eze on Aug 7, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent scrambles for a first. Chased by poz, who looked like he really wanted to lay him out. Love that guy
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bell. Kelsay tore him a new one today. The entire line was awful. Derrick Jones schooled hang! Ugly.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Second unit o line looks bad run blocking
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fitz throws a 25 yard strike to stupar on a busted play
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mcghee made bell look silly there. He’s got some quicks
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Owens drop balls
MRW and Brian, you guys have mentioned a few times (maybe I just am sensitive to it) that Owens have dropped easy balls — that’s his reputation. Has he been doing that more than others?
He has dropped a couple. And yes over the years he has led the league in drops several times.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The good thing to take from that is
Anyone who leads the league in dropped passes for multiple years must have lots of balls thrown his way.
Thus, he must be a pretty awesome receiver to have passes thrown his way DESPITE the league-leading drops.
by Dyl on Aug 7, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re really reaching for that ray of sunshine. If Owens caught all the passes he dropped the team would probably throw to him just as often if not more.
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Yeah, I am reaching. :) It’s August, Ron! Time to feel good about Bills football!
by Dyl on Aug 7, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
10 to 87 on a long gainer on a pump fake
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Onto field goal stuff. Pads are still on though
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is Langston Walker kicking any through?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 7, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt or Brian
has this years camp been any more physical then in years past? I have a big problem with the “country club” atmosphere of Jauron’s camps. I don’t want full contact every practice but it’s important to work on tackling, blocking as if it were a game type situation(minus cuts, etc.).
Never been to camp before this year.
They are not doing full tackling. Technique, sure, but no I am going to tackle that guy.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 7, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank god we got an extra game to toughen these guys up. Geez, never heard of such a thing as half tackling.
by eze on Aug 7, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
“Geez, never heard of such a thing as half tackling.”
It’s called “thud” where you form tackle a guy and wrap up but stay off the ground. This avoids injuries especially to the knees and legs. Every NFL and major college football team and most smart high school teams will do this. Just like you don’t want an offensive lineman cutting one of your own d lineman you don’t want a LB or DB going low on a back or reciever to make a tackle during practice. Kind of teh same logic as why QB’s where red jersey’s…. Teams will have live segements but it usually in a goal line setting, limiting the potential for injury.
Please show me where you come up with the statement taht this is teh worst tackling defenses in the league Gatornation. I know your beloved Gators used thud technique a lot.
Haven’t been to camp yet, this sounds more like it.
by eze on Aug 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
by "thud" you mean tag
as a matter of curiosity, how do you suggest tackling should be practised?
Football. Bloody Hell!!
I’ve suggested that the team get a bunch of fatboys off of barstools in order to let the offensive linemen practice cutting—which Buffalo’s linemen have been terrible at for the past several years….possibly because they don’t practice it.
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You did reply to gregeng, but I already had….so your post kind of followed mine but it wasn’t indented from mine.
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I never said that tackling wasn’t practiced and that they never go live. What I said was that no team goes live every play from scrimmage in every practice. Playing the game of football is not only about athletic ability but it is also about technique and scheme. Going “thud” allows guys to concentrate more on their assignments and techniques then just worrying about getting the guy with the ball on the ground.
This is not Pop Warner, these guys have been playing football a long time and have made many tackles in their career, so I’m not sure they need to be taught how to tackle but maybe given a few pointers and refeshers on the fundamentals.
I’ll say it again, no team with a coach with half a brain is going to go live all the time. Lets see our 3rd string gaurd go at and blow out the knee of Marcus Stroud because he is cut blocking and then you will all be saying what an idiot the Coach is for going live. Our own rookie OL stated in his press conference that you don’t do that to teammates and most of you are commenting on how nasty and tough he is.
I don't know of any team that goes 100% in camp.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 8, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s why this team is one of the worst tackling defenses in the league. hard to get better if you don’t practice in “live” settings.
my coach used to for warn us by saying, “I hope you took your tylenol today”. you knew what kind of practice it would be for that day.
did you play in the nfl?
where everyone runs a 40 in 5 flat or less and can end your career at any given moment of any given play? did you have a 365 pound left tackle lead blocking on a screen pass? save some for the second half huh? when it gets too tough for them, it’s just right for us ;)
Later Losman!
They get after it. They have been cautious the last few days because they are hurting for numbers at several positions, particularly D line
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Walk through eight now. Running plays. Cell battery is dying a painful death. Will hang in there as long as I can
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Still walk through. Very hot out here. O and d breaking off separately now. Pretty laid back
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jealous, very jealous.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Pads are off. More walk through. Is it Sunday yet?
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
97 walking off slowly favoring his right leg. Looks minor
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 3:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Laid Back
Now was the whole practice laid back or just the ending session. And please tell me we didn’t cut it early again.
Just the end. Full pads and getting after it out of the gate
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lots of vets are done. I will be too. Catch yall later
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 7, 2009 4:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
thanks
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by J2 on Aug 7, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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