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Bills lose pre-season opener in sloppy performance

The Buffalo Bills opened their 2009 pre-season slate with a 21-18 loss to the Tennessee Titans in the Hall of Fame Game.  A fake punt touchdown rush and a LenDale White score made the score 14-0 in favor of the Titans early, and Buffalo's offensive red zone struggles couldn't even the score in the first half.  Second-year CB Reggie Corner intercepted an Alex Mortensen pass in the fourth quarter and returned it for the Bills' lone touchdown on the evening.

There were a few encouraging signs in this game, with the general pacing and execution of Buffalo's no-huddle offense being the biggest news in that department.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of areas still in need of work; on the fortunate side of things, the team still has five weeks of pre-season action to work out the kinks.  Our general observations are after the jump.

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Even the no-huddle needs good blocking
Buffalo's starting offense got exactly one series, and despite the fact that the drive ended in a Trent Edwards interception, the offense appeared to be clicking.  Edwards looked supremely comfortable operating the no-huddle, promptly completing his first three passes for 34 yards - the first two of which were first down strikes to Buffalo's new golden boy, WR Terrell Owens.

The re-structured offensive line, however, was a problem throughout the night.  Bills quarterbacks routinely had defenders around their ankles and were forced to create some extra time to throw for themselves on numerous occasions.  Edwards experienced this twice in just five drop-backs; the first time, he scrambled for 8 yards and a first down, but the second time rookie guard Andy Levitre was bullrushed into the pocket, causing Edwards to sail a pass intended for Lee Evans.  The pick was made, ending an otherwise solid drive.

Still, even though the offense mustered just three field goals on the night, the merits of the no-huddle were apparent.  Particularly with the first-team offense, the pacing was excellent.  Tennessee's defense was scrambling a little bit to keep up.  Edwards looked completely in control on his nine-play, 50-yard drive.  Even with subpar line play, the starting offense showed some promise.

Run game and red zone in need of work
Much will be made over the next couple of days of the fact that Buffalo's line is very much a work in progress.  The pass protection wasn't great - we've already touched on that - but Bills quarterbacks were still able to complete 22 of 32 passes for 197 yards.  The far more pressing issue, at least in my humble opinion, was the run blocking.  The Bills ran for just 56 yards on the evening, averaging just 2.67 yards per carry.  Xavier Omon led the team with 36 rushing yards on 11 carries.

The red zone was an issue area as well.  Twice in the second quarter, the Bills started possessions in Titans territory, and twice, the Bills' Ryan Fitzpatrick-led offense failed to put the ball in the end zone.  The team settled for just three points on those drives (the first ended when the team failed to convert on fourth down).  The rushing issues were a big part of the lack of touchdowns; the bigger reason was the play-calling.  Without WR Steve Johnson on the field, the Bills were short a red zone target other than Shawn Nelson in that situation, and it certainly showed.

First-team defense not great, either
Buffalo's defense got off to a good start on the evening, shutting down the Titans early.  Unfortunately, that effort was wasted when Titans rookie punter A.J. Trapasso ran a fake punt 40 yards for a score.  Kerry Collins then efficiently led the Titans down the field for another score after Edwards' interception, quickly extending the lead to 14-0.  Minus any semblance of a pass rush thanks to seeral quick throws, Collins completed 7 of 10 passes for 82 yards on two possessions.  There's a lot of work that needs to get done defensively, as well.

Paul Posluszny was the defensive star of the night, making two nice stops and nearly intercepting a Collins pass on the first series of the game.  He looks primed for a big season.

If there was a bright spot, it was Buffalo's run defense; the Titans managed just 73 yards rushing on 31 attempts, an average of just under 2.4 yards per rush.  The issue was the LenDale White touchdown; Buffalo always seems to struggle with physical backs, and that didn't change tonight.  Buffalo's secondary was also quite good despite the fact that Collins carved them apart early; Leodis McKelvin and Reggie Corner recorded interceptions (Corner's, as we mentioned, returned for a score), and nearly every defensive back on the roster made at least one solid tackle.  Right now, the secondary is the clear strength of this defense.  We just need a pass rush to show this group off.  Paging Joel Segal...

More extensive look coming Tuesday
All in all, this is about what you would expect from a season-opening pre-season game in Buffalo - a few encouraging signs, plenty of ugly play, and a sense that a lot needs to be accomplished prior to the season.  There are still five weeks to go, so let's not panic just yet, particularly in regards to Levitre and the offensive line.

We will be "reviewing the tape," so to speak, on Monday.  We'll have film analysis up Tuesday for all three phases of the team (offense, defense, special teams).  For now, feel free to leave your general observations on the Hall of Fame game (if you saw it).

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Well Im throw some love out for a few folks.......

Nic Harris – looks like he’ll be breathing down Ellisons neck……wouldnt be suprised to see him starting sometime in the season.

Omon – looked quick, and elusive……and also put his head down and finished his runs

Hamdan – did exactly what you want a backup to do……effective……and not careless.

Corner – Solid job on tackling, coverage, and the TD return.

Lindell and Moorman look to be in mid-season form…..

Probably a few others I missed, but Nice write up all in all Brian.

Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009

by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 9, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Edwards looked aggressive was a plus.

That Levitre blow up was bad, but he has a lot of time to learn, and that was all leverage, and he can get better. I was pleased that the line looked the part at least physically. They aren’t pansies, they just need to get their techniques down in unison.

Any one see Lynch steal the ball from Jared Cook on the sidelines. Lynch is a funny dude.

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I did

Was wondering what that was all about.

by VanScottM on Aug 10, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw

I was hoping they would say something about it on TV.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

but they said nothing…some character messing with other players

Also Alvin Bowen had a great hit later in the game

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 10, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

leodis disappoints, poz shines

In regards to starters on d leodis mckelvin looked terrible until vince young threw him a gift. He was out of position and tackled very poorly especially that whiff on alge crumpler that gave up a first. Not good stuff.

Poz on the other hand looked spectacular and ready to quiet any critics this year he was disruptive and tackled soundly and with authority.

More to say but have to get up early in the morn

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by poz on Aug 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Agree 100% about Leodis. That was a tough performance to watch. It almost looked as if he’s been getting beaten deep so much in practice, that he was willing to give up balls 20-30 yards downfield instead. It was like a one man prevent defense………and that missed tackle……..dear god.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Leodis will be fine

The Bills roster is full of solid but unspectacular players. These Bills players recognize the opposing offense on the field, and try to limit them to minimal gains so they can force punts and get the ball back. McKelvin just doesn’t seem to be cut from that mold. He plays with the mindset that the ball doesn’t even belong in the offense’s hands in the first place, it’s theirs (the defense). Mc will probably always be costing us some big yardage at certain points in the game, but he’s proven already at such a young age that he can make interceptions and plays on the ball. If he can continue to give us the interceptions, along with that winning attitude, I’ll take the bad plays with the good.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, he will be fine. He did get craved up on a few plays but the team as whole got carved. Leodis did get a gift from young but the majority of INT’s are poorly thrown balls.

by eze on Aug 10, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good summary Brian...

Pretty much agree across the board. Some good, some bad, but in the end this was the fist of five preseason games, so we can only take so much out of it.

Top three:

1. First team offense’s execution and comfortability with the no huddle

2. What T.O. means to the passing game

3. Poz’s strong performance

Bottom three:

1. Run game (running backs plus o-line run blocking, including, in my opinion, Lynch – who looked big and slow)

2. Red zone offense

3. Starting D’s one bad drive

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by jri111 on Aug 9, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Pass rush?

No pass rush. I know it’s early in preseason and no one calls blitzes this early, but I still hoped to see the front 4 put some pressure and collapse the pocket.

I was not encouraged by this game, but then again I think this happened last year pre season—the first game was awful and then the rest were pretty smooth.

I think Tony Dungy’s point is true. This is a team that is going to try to outscore teams. We have to put up 25-30 a game and hope that the defense makes a few stops here and there.

I’m still optimistic about the year, just not as optimistic—I’m pulling back from my AFC championship game predictions.

by Ono on Aug 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I wouldn’t call one either, but it gives Bobby April something to show tape of now, so thank you Jeff Fisher!

by bluecollarbuffalo on Aug 10, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its the same exact crappy pass rush that’s been out there for years…..only its aging. There is absolutely no reason to expect anything to have changed here.

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by Kurupt on Aug 10, 2009 12:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

agreed
I still hoped to see the front 4 put some pressure and collapse the pocket.

What did the foursome of Schobel, Kelsay, Williams, and Stroud show you last year that would suggest that they could do that? The Titans have a great o-line. This is why the Bills drafted Maybin….

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were plenty of times the Bills brought more than 4 rushers.

by Pistol on Aug 10, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's just hope

That we don’t have to in order to generate pressure

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

my take

is that the no-huddle looks in order and like the Bills can maybe run it quite a bit this year. I think it is a TON TO ASK of our team, especially with 2 rookie OG’s and a 3rd year QB, but that said, I honestly think Trent can handle it The only question is our OL good enough to allow Trent to use all these weapons he has to play with? Time will tell. But tonight was a pitiful sign. Then again, the only way this OL can go…..is UP! I think Shawn Nelson could be a perfect solution to our red zone blues….Lankster look a step slow and playing things too safe

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by MARVelous on Aug 10, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like the same old Bills

There were waaaay too many signs that this team might not be any different than what we’ve seen for years.

The OL was absolutely horrible. Wood was fine I guess and maybe Hang too. Walker seemed to be a step slow, but at least he didn’t let his man get to Trent. Bell didn’t look ready to handle any kind of full-time role yet. Levitre didn’t even look like he belonged on the field. That was brutal. That was also some poor run blocking out there. Little to no push by anyone. Of course, dive plays up the middle aren’t always the way to pick up chunks of yards. When the season starts, I will be begging for more outside runs.

Still, same old pass rush where the QB doesn’t have to even worry about getting hit. Schobel is just another guy these days.

Our front 7 has to be the slowest in the league. Its disgusting how different the two teams’ front 7’s look.

Trent looked good out there though. That deeper cross to TO is something I’ve been waiting for for years. Get it downfield! I think what we saw tonight with TO being the main option and Evans being nearly invisible is something we’ll see a lot of this year.

Lankster got toasted on that TD, ouch.

And what might be the most depressing is how flat and passive the team still is. Tennessee came to play and easily won the battles in the trenches. The team still lacks toughness and I think it’ll remain that way under this regime. Guess I will just have to hope something changes here!

That was a pretty rough start to a critical year. If the OL doesn’t improve 1000000%, this team and Trent specifically has no chance this year.

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by Kurupt on Aug 10, 2009 12:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

oh K.....

I so missed you during the GDT

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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 10, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dang

Did we watch the same game? Yea the oline wasn’t perfect but they did well that first drive until levitre got blown up. Even then trent sailed it. It was one drive and you are already saying Evans will be invisible? That’s a bit rush to judgment. Yea lankster got beat, but its lankster, a rook, he probably learned a lot from that one play. Oline should improve, especially on run blocking, and lynch did look slow and not in game mode tonight, but no one got sacked. Trent didn’t go down, fitz had some pressure but someof the starters were out by then. Jeez. I just don’t know how to respond.
The titans are a good effing team! They won 13 games last year! If not for a fake punt and an unfortunate pick, our starters versus their starters would have been tied! Come on people, there was still alot to like out there tonight.
And I’m officially on the hamdan for 2nd string bandwagon now. Kid impressed tonight with scrubs.

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by silverstreak3k on Aug 10, 2009 1:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn’t see the game at all, but from the comments, I’m far more concerned about the Dline than the Oline. Schobel is past his prime, Denney and Kelsay are Denney and Kelsay, and the only help that was brought in is still sitting on his arse not even in camp yet.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

K I really think you are making unfairly early judgements of this team. If not for levitre getting blown up trent would have hit lee on the five? So TO makes two catches and now lee is invisible? I think what we saw is a hint of how dangerous lee can be after a few completions to TO and then getting targeted one on one. Its not the same old bills at all. On our sole offensive drive we were crisp clicking effective and aggressive in a way not seen in over a decade. So a rookie 2nd rounder blowing it in his first drive of his CAMP season against one of the strongest lines in the league is a measuring stick? On defense I liked what I saw from Scott and whitner at safety and poz looked simply awesome! Schobel isn’t just another guy yet, let him get used to game speed again and why would he go 100% and risk re injury in an early pre season game? I was encouraged by ellis and Williams got in the backfield. McGee was solid. Sure kelsay disappeared but we knew that, denney got blocked soundly a lot. The biggest concern BY FAR was the o line. Levitre looked over his head but I’m glad he’s got film on a crap game so early. A guy like him will fix some things over five weeks. Hang and wood did not get blasted back, great sign but they didn’t get great push either. Walker seemed slow and butler was letting guys through. Fred Jackson I think only ran once Rhodes didn’t play and marshawn had one drive so its not fair to judge run game yet. This is not the same team but our o line has to gel soon! Side note: stupar looked great!

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by poz on Aug 10, 2009 8:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

i agree with you. it looked like the same bills to me. the defense simply didn’t put pressure. they couldn’t come up with plays. the offensive line looked bad. ditto for the running game. what upsets me is that it seems as though teams always pull off these trick plays against us. jauron has to be better prepared….unfortunately, i agree that not much may change “under this regime.” jauron jauron jauron

by chaucer on Aug 10, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

it looked like the same bills to me. the defense simply didn’t put pressure. they couldn’t come up with plays.

I’m not sure why you guys expected to see a different Bills team defensively. I didn’t, either, but it was the exact same defense, after all. Same players. Same scheme, except buttered down for the pre-season. The run defense was excellent, and we made two picks. That’s hardly a poor performance, but obviously we need to get better. I just don’t understand this notion that we’d magically be a dominant defense with the same players.

The offense looked clearly different from last season. Those were not the same Bills, IMO.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure that the offense looked that different. Yes there were some crisp passing plays on the first series, but the running game was as atrocious as it has been for several years now. In the end the Bills managed to gain just over 50 yards on the ground and averaged well under 3 yards per carry. That was true even on the first series (unless you count Trent’s scramble as a run). The only carry in that sequence was a run by Fred Jackson that netted one yard on a first down play.

If the Bills can’t make yardage on the ground opponents will start to close up their passing opportunities and this coming season will look a lot like the last one.

by Macktruck on Aug 10, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can you not say the offense looked different? There were passes attempted and completed beyond the down-and-distance markers. The offense used the no-huddle to their advantage and they looked to be showing a gameplan, rather than plans for particular series’ only – which is what seemed to happen last year, from my perspective.

Honestly, i’m most concerned with Lynch. I don’t see him as a top-shelf back (at least in this system), in the sense of being able to grind out a buck-fifty and really take over a game. He’s a beast in the red zone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see some different looks between the 20’s this coming season.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are absolutely right about the no-huddle. That looked good, and it’s very different from last year. But the stats show clearly that the running game was pathetic last night. And if that doesn’t get fixed and our offense becomes one-dimensional opposing defenses will have no trouble shutting us down. That’s what I meant when I said it looked the same.

by Macktruck on Aug 10, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the offense was focusing on the run game last night

The coaches looked like they wanted to see how far along the no-huddle was coming. Trent, Fitz, and Hamdan all got lots of chances to operate it and throw many passes. So we know at least that we have three quarterbacks who are mentally capable of running the attack. Omon carried several times for decent yardage, and if he’d been allowed to run more, we’d have gained a fine amount of yardage.

We have a great stable of running backs and I’m sure they will get their carries. We just aren’t going to be a power running team AND run a no-huddle attack.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure why you guys expected to see a different Bills team defensively

homer-driven optimism. It’s a long offseason and fans can convince themselves of anything.

The run D was fantastic and the offense definitely looked different. I thought the team looked as different as they could for one quarter of football.

by kaisertown on Aug 10, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

The run defense was excellent,


I am not sure they were “excellent” especially on two or three of the Chris Johnson runs in the first few series he played. I saw an excellent run around the ends twice where he easily outran our LB’s to the corner and got to the secondary. Not much contain for our run defense. They also bull rushed us to get into the end zone.

by dabillsr1 on Aug 10, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Johnson had that nice 16 yard run where he got outside and he had a 7 yard gain on another run, but his other 4 carries added up to a loss of 6 yards. The Bills held one of the couple most explosive runners in the league to under 3 yards per carry. LenDale White did make it look easy with two runs for 8 yards to score that TD, but his other 4 carries only gained one yard per. The Bills held White to two yards per carry.

The Titans have a great ground game and Buffalo held them to 2.7 yards per carry for the game and held their big two to 2.4 yards per. The Titans ground game was held to under 3 yards per carry only a couple times last year. The Bills tackled a RB behind the line of scrimmage 8 times, Buffalo’s RBs went down in the backfield once. I’m not sure the Bills could have realistically done any better stopping the run than they did.

by kaisertown on Aug 10, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with much of what you say but can’t believe you think Bell doesn’t look ready. He played almost the entire game and got beat badly only once (during the third quarter). It’s also true that he got pushed back toward the QB on the play that resulted in Trent’s INT, but in the end he tossed his man to the ground well out of harm’s way. Other than that he held his position consistently in pass protection so far as I could see (it will be interesting to get Ron’s view) and carried out his assignments well in run-blocking. It’s true, though, that the running plays Turk called went mainly up the middle so the tackles weren’t tested that much.

And yes, Lankster got beat badly on that fade route TD, but otherwise he acquited himself well.

The big problems were the middle of the o-line and, as you say, the d-line. In those two spots it was deja vu all over again.

by Macktruck on Aug 10, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

After reading K's game analysis

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by taskersd on Aug 10, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lankster got toasted on that TD, ouch.

I disagree. That was a perfectly lobbed ball, that was dropped in perfectly over the WRs shoulder. Unless Lankster is 15ft tall I don’t see how he or anybody for that matter could have defended that play.

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you missed the double move that allowed the WR to be wide open?

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by Kurupt on Aug 10, 2009 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Where could Lankster have positioned himself that he could have successfully defended that play?

Young dropped that pass right over the WRs shoulder in the back of the end zone. Even if Lankster was in his hip pocket, I doubt he could have broken that up.

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Lankster was closer he could’ve pushed him out – which I don’t think Lankster was prepared to do, remember there is no force out rule anymore.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but there is still pass interference. The force out rule only applies to receivers who have touched the ball and are up in the air. A receiver who just catches a pass can’t be hit before he touches the ball.

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by thatguy34 on Aug 10, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and once that player touches the ball you hit him out of bounds… exactly like I said. The player was only a foot from inside the endzone, a decent hit and there’s no way he can get his feet down.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he didn’t catch it in the air, did he?

If the glove don’t fit, it couldn’t be Whit...

by thatguy34 on Aug 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, his feet were on the ground when he made the catch.

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, so I’m confused by the whole “force out” argument.

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by thatguy34 on Aug 10, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He only had one foot down at the time, and all you need to do is lay him out when he touches the ball.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the preseason so the results don’t matter. If Lankster was right there, but couldn’t make the play because the throw was perfect, then he’s off the hook. And if Williams drops the ball, it’s no big deal in the regular season, but last night, it wouldn’t have changed anything. It wasn’t that Lankster got beat, it was the degree to which he got beat. It wouldn’t have taken a perfect throw to beat him and it even could have been a terrible throw, but Lankster was so far out of position that he wouldn’t have been able to do anything if the throw was awful.

by kaisertown on Aug 10, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention he got beaten by a player none of us have ever heard of before yesterday.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, slow down guys

He’s a 7th round draft pick. I among others am really excited about his camp contribution, but he’s gonna do well just to make the team. We’re rooting for him, but this is just going to happen sometimes.

by Dyl on Aug 11, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, how many football fans, other then Bills fans, have heard of Ellis Lankster?

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by sireric on Aug 11, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lankster should have jammed him at the line. His position was fine but he needed to give a chuck. He was within five yards when the double move was made.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 12, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still, same old pass rush where the QB doesn’t have to even worry about getting hit. Schobel is just another guy these days.

I thought Schobel looked decent, but I agree that he’s pretty much just another guy these days.

The team still lacks toughness and I think it’ll remain that way under this regime.

I really disagree with that. The defense showed just how tough they are by shutting down one of the league’s elite running games. You really don’t think that Mitchell, Poz, Scott, Stroud, Williams, Schobel, Denney and the rest of the D isn’t tough enough? The front 7 is really slow though and I think that was the problem. That’s also the price you pay for adding toughness. Poz couldn’t be tougher, but he’s an average athlete. Mitchell is tough as nails too, but he’s big and slow. Don’t get me wrong, I really like Mitchell, but it’s a shame that this team has such an awful pass rush that they had to sign a blitzing LB to be an every down player. It’s not exactly the way to add team speed.

And on offense, didn’t Buffalo draft Levitre and Wood largely due to toughness? I don’t know how you could think the interior of the OL isn’t tough enough. Couldn’t it be that this OL just isn’t good enough? What’s more likely, that some decent vets and a couple of rookies guards who weren’t drafted for athleticism aren’t tough enough or that they aren’t currently good enough? I don’t think Buffalo isn’t tough enough, they just got outplayed by better players.

by kaisertown on Aug 10, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great write up. The line is definitely a work in progress, when I was watching Levitre always seemed to be getting over powered and pushed back. I hope they work on this a lot. Also I noticed Walker was not that great in run blocking. When you guys look at the tape maybe you can get some extra things but it looked to me like he would get a block but it was always in the wrong direction. I saw a few plays where if he wouldve turned his guy a little more the run would have gotten an extra few yards at least.
Lankster looked spotty to me; you can clearly tell he needs experience and unless by the end of preseason he catches up I think he will only be on the practice squad. He had a couple really good plays and a good pass break up, but that TD he gave up…
McKelvin has A LOT of work to do; i have the exact same thing to say about him as Lankster.
Edwards looked good I thought (I know he had the INT) and I think they are going to have to adapt him with the O-line with having him move more to the right so he can step up into his throws (I didn’t see Wood getting pushed back…).
McGee is solid as ever and Poz for being in only a short amount of time really dominated – those are the two things I was most impressed by.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

deja vu

I watched tape of the Bills offense during the first half and what I saw was the same fatal weakness that destroyed the entire team last year — namely, a lot of give in the center of the o-line on pass protection and very little push in the running game (as Brian notes). I came away even more doubtful that Andy Levitre is ready to be an NFL starter. Yes, it’s just the first preseason game but he was getting shoved around in the third quarter by the Titan third-stringers. What surprised me though was Hangartner. I kept looking for 63 on running plays and he tended to end up just where he started. He was doing very little to provide blocking for whoever was carrying the ball. Meanwhile the tackles were both playing well, as was Eric Wood and also Kirk Chambers (although admittedly he saw most of his action in the second half and so was up against the Tennessee 3’s).

In a word, this looks like last year’s o-line so far. Things had better improve fairly soon or I suspect there will have to be a lot of changes.

by Macktruck on Aug 10, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I watched tape of the Bills offense during the first half

People still have VCRs?

Levitre is obviously the largest concern on the O-line right now. I thought it was interesting that he played most of the game (all?), but Wood seemed to come out much earlier.

I know the Bills ‘announced’ their staring line already, but if Levitre doesn’t show anything by the end of the preseason I think we’ll see Chambers in there where he’ll be solid, but unspectacular.

by Pistol on Aug 10, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a figure of speech. I recorded on a DVD (although I confess that on the main computer I work on I’m still running DOS and Wordperfect 5.1).

by Macktruck on Aug 10, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not jumping off a cliff yet....

Tennesee is one of the better teams in the league that looked like they game planned for the game by using a fake punt and letting the starters playing as much as they did. I thought our defense played well considering it was very vinilla regarding game planning or stunts or blitzes (did we? I don’t remmeber one). Our run defense was stout all game against a very good running team. A lot of the misdirection plays will be accounted for with game planning and matchups.

Our D-Line did good. We only got one sack for the game but I thought, for the most part we were getting good push and collapsing the pocket even though they were throwing a lot of three step or roll out passes and not much or any blitzing. LB’s were active and involved especially Poz. Ellison supported the run and well I was impresed how well he played. Our DB’s were for the most part untested with the quick pass game and what looked like vanilla coverage with little or no press coverage. Leo still needs work, he’s starting to get me nervous because he seems to be playing tentative.

Offensively, we all should have known that O-line was going to struggle in their first live action especially against a good D-line like Ten. Wood is a stud!!! Levitre, everyone saw how he got manhandled a few times but I think he will get better. Overall I think they did how we should have reallistically expected. Thank god that we have 5 preseasons games to gell. It was good to see them play the whole half and show improvements even though it was against second teamers.

The no huddle looked crisp and sharp! It’s goiing to be fun to watch, I just hope Lee doesn’t get too pissed that he is going to get fewer balls this year. T.O. is a stud and our TE’s caught a lot of balls. Would have liked to have seen more of Nelson. Our personnel groupings were once again very vinillia. No 4 wide sets, no no back, Dominic Rhodes didn’t even touch the ball.

Special teams were a killer that cost us 14 points and most of you wanting to slit your wrists and say how much this team sucks. Any team that runs a fake punt in the first preseason game on the opening drive is trying to make a statement and I for one would rather save it for regular season ala. fake FG pass for TD against Seattle last year.

I would have liked to win but it’s PRESEASON!

by Honestabe75 on Aug 10, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Desperately seeking pass rush

Yikes. Can Maybin really be expected to provide what this team needs? Based on tonight, there’s way more need than the rookie can possibly shoulder. 3rd and 15 and Collins has the time to find Gage for 19 yards? Yikes.

I didn’t mind our DT play, but the ends have to get more pressure.

I liked Langston Walker’s play tonight. He routed his man behind Trent consistently on that drive. I would rather see him blow them up (like our DEs tonight), but if it takes a DE 4 seconds to run around Walker and then come up on Trent, well… that ball should have been thrown already.

Aside from Trent’s decision-making, it sure didn’t look like this team has had an extra week of practice. Jauron and staff must, must do a better job of having this team prepared for game day. It killed us last year, and if it kills us again this year, the team will be building from scratch. I don’t want to wait another 10 years for a playoff game.

by Mark Parisi on Aug 10, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Aside from Trent’s decision-making, it sure didn’t look like this team has had an extra week of practice.

That would be because they haven’t. They ALWAYS have around two weeks under their belts for the first pre-season game. This game just occurs a week before everybody else’s first game.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

An extra week compared to the Titans. The BIlls opened their camp earlier, didn’t they?

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buffalo opened July 25th, Tennessee opened July 31st.

by Mark Parisi on Aug 10, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

we need new and better defensive ends…until then, i don’t see how this line is going to get better.

by chaucer on Aug 10, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see the game. Was Nelson in at all in red zone situations? Was he not able to get open?

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

not the end of the world

…and actually better than I expected.
I think alot of people take for granted how good the Titans line is and how young and unexperienced the Bills’ is. Their backup Dline is better than our starters with the exception of Stroud and Schobel if he is healthy and actually plays with some intensity. I know Levitre had some bad plays but he just needs work, Wood was great and to be honest I’m more worried about our pass rush than about the Offensive line right now, because I think the Oline will improve or can be at the least patchwork, but the pass rush was pretty bad.

Played Well:
POZ
Reggie Corner
Terrence McGee
Terrell Owens
Bryan Scott

Pleasant Surprises:
Eric Wood
Nic Harris
Gibran Hamdan
Derrick Jones

Improved:
Derek Fine
Xavier Omon
Demetrius Bell
John McCargo

Needs Work:
Justin Jenkins
Leodis McKelvin
Derek Schouman
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Ellis Lankster
Andy Levitre
Corey Mace
Chris Ellis
Matt Baker

Atrocious:
Bruce Hall

by pasaluki on Aug 10, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions  

bruce hall was terrible

The Bills CAN win any game

by killascript on Aug 10, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the plus side, Omon did not. There were line issues, but he actually made some decent cuts.

by WhyBillsWhy on Aug 10, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by NCbillsfan12 on Aug 10, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

How does Derek Schouman “need work” when he was specifically sat for the game to get work for the TEs behind him on the depth chart?

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

touche

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by killascript on Aug 10, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did look iffy in the run blocking department on the plays he was in.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now, I didn’t see the game, but Chris Brown reported that Schouman did not play at all.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was at least dressed. They showed him on the sideline. Dude has some rockin’ mutton chops and a sweet goatee. He should be listed “Improved” for the chops alone.

by thejimbo on Aug 10, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

CB was wrong

he was there, but you wouldn’t know it from how he played. He did get wide open once but Trent didn’t see him. I guess I should have just said he was a no-factor. He also missed a block that stuffed Marshawn and another one that made trent have to release early.
Fine meanwhile played pretty well, his blocking has improved quite a bit.

I have no idea why the Bills are saying Schouman is the #1 TE. No offense to him but he’s a marginal receiver and today he didn’t even block well.

by pasaluki on Aug 10, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and heres what Chris Brown said about the “misleading” information

“On our pre-game show on the radio Murph and Bull told me in their pre-production meeting with Jauron that Schouman was not going to play because they wanted to look at the younger TEs, feeling they already know what they have in Derek Schouman.

He did play that first series though. His playing time however, was severely limited.

Didn’t mean to mislead anyone. Just got information from two reputable sources.

Only thing I can think of is Jauron meant that Schouman wouldn’t see much playing time instead of ANY playing time. And then in my haste to get the game story out to you folks I never retracted it from the bottom of my write up."

He actually went into the message boards to post that, man that guy is thorough. CB is a pretty cool guy.

by pasaluki on Aug 10, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

CB is better than cool.

With extremely limited resources, compared to other teams, he and his tiny staff are doing a creditable job giving us the inside dope on most team issues.

A number of times, Chris has sent me an individual email responding to a question or concern I had as a fan. Each time this happens, it completely floors me; I never expect to hear back from him; at most, I hope my question lands in his Fan Friday column. But apparently he feels my question deserves a personal answer, and that just increases my respect for him.

There are plenty of times when he really can’t comment on a player, or a situation, and I’m quite sure that’s the way the Bills want it. I’ve read enough of his columns to pretty much intuit when that’s the case. He simply goes quiet on the subject and talks about when the team might have news. But CB is an employee, after all. He marches to Mr. Wilson’s beat.

But when he’s given the green light, Brown is thorough, professional, and he pays attention to what the fans want, especially the avid fans who are way involved in the inside stories on the team (who the 2nd QB should be, is Schobel the guy he used to be, can Maybin help, etc., etc. ad nauseum).

Chris, you are a great reporter. Mr. Wilson, Chris Brown deserves a raise.

by Defensewinsgames on Aug 10, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hear, hear. Chris Brown is the man.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on two points:

1. CB is da man.

2. Surprised that Schouman has been named the starter already. But, I’d love all the TEs to get as much work as possible, because the TE position is one position that has tremendous upside this year compared to last.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not buying that the tight ends are “the shizzle” until I see it in a real game. They have no laurels to rest on. Having an upside is one thing………

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm…hence why I said I wanted them all to get a lot of work and that they have much upside…not exactly a guarantee of their success.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sorry, that wasn’t a knock on what you said. There’s been a lot of buzz about the Bills utilizing the tight end more in the passing game with Owens joining the mix. We really need that production to be there to sustain drives.

The thing that worries me is their blocking. I have a feeling Schouman’s blocking hasn’t improved as much as advertised. That’s what worries me. He looked extremely overmatched against a defensive end yesterday. I think Fine will see much more playing time than Schouman, or at least, he should. Stupar looks intriguing. If Fine gets hurt, we’ll need him to try and fill his shoes. Nelson will probably do about as much as Hardy did last year.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do have high hopes for Nelson in the red zone. Hopefully it will pan out more than Hardy last year.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched him get beat on a busted run play. He definitely played at least one play.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 12, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

also wanted to say Trent looked pretty good out there from what I saw but he wasn’t really out there long enough. I think 1st team should have had 2 possessions.

by pasaluki on Aug 10, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes it was just one drive...

but we can’t take for granted how good Trent looked running the first team offense.

I think we all expected the o-line to look over-matched (I didn’t want to see Levitre get picked up and carried into Trent, but hey live and learn…) and the pass rush to be mediocre. We drafted Maybin at number 11 because we realized that the very same status quo pass rush wasn’t going to get it done this year (correction – an older same pass rush). And yes, the o-line needs to pick up their game, generate some push, and do a better job giving Trent a chance to throw, but I think its fair to assume the line will get better as they play more together. But I for one also expected to see a pretty flat first team offense still adjusting to the pace, cadence and calls of the no-huddle. That just wasn’t the case.

Trent was clearly in command of the offense, connecting with TO on some great plays and even zipping a pass into Fine in tight coverage. TO broke some guy’s ankles on the second play of the game. Flat first team offense could have very well been on the list of gripes coming out of this game… but the fact that offense did look so crisp even for a brief couple of plays has me very hopeful that we could be looking at the first dynamic bills offense in quite some time.

by Squirmin' Thurman on Aug 10, 2009 2:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Man I like Trent. He just said on BB.com that the INT was all his fault. That’s behaviour of a great qb.

I mean c’mon, Levitre is certainly the reason for it.

by Chriz on Aug 10, 2009 5:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Not throwing that interception is behavior of a great QB. :)

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Levitre didn't give him a chance.

Trent was baling out his guard by taking responsibility when his guy was clearly overmatched and looked bad. I think what Chriz is saying is that’s the behavior of a leader. I agree. There’s a lot to like with this kid. He’s not Kelly, okay? But he’s got guts and he’s smart and he’s growing into the leadership role. We might have something here.

by Defensewinsgames on Aug 10, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trent, himself, said he made a bad read.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like QB2 isn't solidified yet

and yes, I know it’s way too early to bestow anyone that honor. Hamdan looked good, and more relaxed. For a bit, I thought Losman was back and just doubled the number on his jersey.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m on the Hamdan train… has a better grasp of the O. Didn’t make stupid mistakes or get jumpy in the pocket. We’ll see how the preseason wraps, but I wouldn’t be surprised with him getting the #2 slot.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 10, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty obvious now

why Buffalo seems obsessed with CB’s during the draft. It’s because they realize that their D will never get pressure to the QB. sad.

by dzil on Aug 10, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Bruce Hall

reminds me of the Bionic Man, in the slowmo scenes, can almost hear that funky sound effect that goes with it. Omon was a pleasant almost shocking surprise, very impressive.

by dzil on Aug 10, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Omon moves up the depth chart with this game. And Hall gets a new mailing address.

Especially with the coach singling Omon out for praise in the post game interview. And especially with Hall muffing the punt.
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by Defensewinsgames on Aug 10, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

How does Omon move up the depth chart? He was #4, and he ain’t vaulting past Rhodes.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Up until now I put both Hall and Omon in the same boat - iffy to make the squad.

We don’t really need 5 backs, do we? Especially after Lynch returns. So I’m saying, if I’m Jauron, Omon stays, and we use the practice squad position that Hall occupied for someone else. Hall gets a handshake and ``farewell and good luck’’ from Turk (or whoever is designated to pick up the playbook and deliver the bad news to guys who don’t cut it).

by Defensewinsgames on Aug 10, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought McCargo and Ellis looked awful. It may even be time to put the Ellis project behind us. We NEED these guys to contribute, but it doesn’t look promising, first pre-season game or not. When you get that much PT, you should be doing a few things positive.

by Buffalonian on Aug 10, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

McCargo at least

got into the backfield once. He didn’t do anything while there but he did create pressure which is a new concept for him. Ellis did close to nothing. Why I’m worried about the Dline is because it seems like alot of time the Bills have to bring the house to generate pressure. Even good lines won’t always get into the backfield every play, but they don’t rely soley on stunts and LB blitz packages either. What I will say in support of the Dline is that they played well against the run, the Titans only had one significant run up the middle. They struggled a little bit with runs to the outside I think Schobel actually was in the exact right position to stop the rb(I think it was Chris Johnson) for a loss but the rb simply cut to the outside and easily went around him, I can’t get mad at a Dlineman’s lack of lateral motion against Johnson though. Bryan Scott is insanely good at run defense support though, I thought he played excellent against the run. And that is an area where Buffalo has legitimately improved itself for sure.

But a problem I don’t think is talked about alot about with our defense and is sort of intangible but let’s be honest: they get scooby dooed alot. I mean the fake punt was one I don’t hold against them because that was a beautiful unique and creative as hell play. But doesn’t it seem like alot of time the defense guesses wrong? I think it is especially prevalent in 3rd and short situations, when the other team decides to go play action, it seems like the bills ALWAYS bite on it. They seem really susceptible to those screens where the defense is drawn inside and the qb tosses outside, and they seem to bite on trick plays as well. Basically I think the defense is pretty talented but the titans called very good and creative plays that were designed to expose the Bills a little bit.

by pasaluki on Aug 10, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schobel will never play the run well at his current weight. He was getting bullied, so I’ll have disagree with your point on him actually being in position. I’m sorry but 240 something is not going to cut it, he was in the 260’s during his best years. We are going to see teams run his side a lot. I would too.

by Buffalonian on Aug 10, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well all I was saying is he read the play correctly but his body didn’t react to it right and he didn’t have the right angle to make the play.

by pasaluki on Aug 10, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schobel did make a couple nice plays on run defense. Not to say I think Schobel will be as good as he used to be, but remember he played only in 4? games last year. He had a much longer time off from real game play then anyone else on that field (figure of speech, I am sure someone can find someone else that has been away longer :P )

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else notice how the Titans offense just looked more creative? Their run plays seem to have more options for the RB, and those quick hit pass plays.

by Buffalonian on Aug 10, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Fake Punt

It is shocking to me for them to run that fake punt. It was a very creative play that would work once at any point in the season. Why would they waste it in the preseason? Every team will see that play and now leave the back-side end in to contain.

It will never work again this year. Seems like a waste.

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by Slick Shifty on Aug 10, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I stuck my foot in my mouth...

My brother and I were arguing about how much offensive/defensive schemes teams actually show during preseason. About five minutes before the fake punt I said “they would never show you things like fake punts and kicks in the preseason”.

Then when the play happened he just looked at me with that look that makes you want to punch someone. Pretty funny.

by BuffaloWill on Aug 10, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

During the broadcast

They said they would only run that play because of the rookie punter they had in there, he won’t be starting and might not even make the team, so Jeff Fisher said what the hell. He would never risk that play with Hentrich their regular starting punter.

by syrbillsfan on Aug 10, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Melvin Levitre

- I agree with this post, but am beginning to worry about Levitre. A lot of teams were worried about his lack of strength in the Combine, and it showed last night. He looked like a clone of Melvin Fowler getting bull rushed. I am predicting right now that McKinney will be starting at Guard of Butler will be back there before the season begins. And maybe they put Bell at tackle. I didn’t see any holes for the running backs and this is not a good sign for their offense. You win in the trenches.

by BuffaloWhiner on Aug 10, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

A few Points

1. It was Levitre’s first game (common)…and other than the int he was not awful but mediocre. If Bell shines at tackle they could move Butler back to guard, but hopefully that wont be necessary. And that INT was on Trent too 50/50. Always better to take the sack then throw the pick.
2. The running game will be fine (on the sweep by lynch where Walker pulled he just hesitated and got slowed up…unfortunatly that happened last year too)…hopefully they will fix that…you will see lots of pulling this year and when D’s tire in the second half expect big runs. Defensive fatigue and 3 decent RB’s will help the running game. Patience on this.
3. Ellisson AND Mitchell were no where to be found. Not good and my biggst concern by far. Um can anyone say Nic Harris.
4. Run D looked good…I agree the front 7 is very slow. If your DE’s are as slow as ours the LB’s better be fast and they are not. Time for Maybin to get into camp.
5. When Lynch is out for the first 3 games I wouldn’t mind seeing Omon on short yardage situations.
6. I have no faith in our coaching staff…it’s not they did anything so absolutely terribly wrong yesterday, its that gut feeling I have that I tried to block out over the offseason where I feel we will get outcoached every week. Call me crazy but I believe we have enough talent to be a playoff team.
7. An unfortunate non-event last night: Dick J. did not get an opp to practice getting the refs attention when a challenge situation arose.

by Berg79 on Aug 10, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry forgot this one

8. Derrick Jones was really impressive.

by Berg79 on Aug 10, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huggins

He looked pretty good last night. Who is this guy?

by Buffalo Mo on Aug 10, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Its not the first off season he makes waves but it never becomes anything

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by poz on Aug 10, 2009 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

rush to judgement

It’s a bit premature to start saying this guy isn’t good or I’m worried about this just like it’s a little early to say this guy is going to be great. it’s the first preseason game. what we need to see out of these 1st year starters and newcomers, as well as the rest, is gradual improvements from one game to the next. I would have liked to see the offensive starters play more then 1 series. Edwards needs to play more under live situations especially since they are implementing a no huddle approach this year.
The problem with the Bills is it’s difficult to simulate live game situations in the type of camp that Jauron runs. I guarantee that the Titans run a much more physical camp then the Bills and it showed in that they were ready for an actual game. in that case a 5 game preseason schedule should benefit the Bills more in the long run.

by gatornation on Aug 10, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

My Recap on the game

OK Looking at the first team Offense and Defence it was not that bad sure Trent Edwards had a pick on his only drive of the game but it was because could not step up in the pocket. Owens did a nice job last night catching 2 passes last night. For the Defence Poz had 2 nice tackles and 2 helpers that was good 4 only 10 plays. The run Defence shut them down the Titans only break was when denny got doubled on a toss play. The second on third Offence did not do a long but the Denfece did hold it down for the offence to try and get them back in the game. Reggie Corner had a nice pick in the 4th to make it 16-21.

GO BUFFALO

by kooldude on Aug 10, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

to Brian's point

this team didn’t get completely overhauled in the offseason. we have the same players in many of the same positions. this team will play in close games again this year because that’s what Jauron teams do. maybe with more focus on offense and a change in their offensive philosophy that will change some of those close losses last year into wins.

by gatornation on Aug 10, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree but...

I totally agree with you on that but i think we need a new coach on the bills Bill Cower maybe, and Jim Kelly would be a good coach but what ever it is we need a new coach but sence it this year i belive we can go 10-6 and just make the playoffs. Next Year new coach

GO BUFFALO

by kooldude on Aug 10, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d actually like to see Shanahan, but I’m actually hoping for the best this year. Hopefully a new regime won’t be necessary because that would mean we will have tanked this year.

by WhyBillsWhy on Aug 10, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

not really they will make the playoffs and get a new coach next year and why Shanahan why not Cower or Dungy

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by kooldude on Aug 10, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm advocating for Edwards to get more playing time.

He’s far from seasoned, far from established, and far from comfortable with this new offensive scheme and the new talent around him. If they continue to give him 1 series and 3-4 pass attempts a game, he won’t be ready come week 1.

He looked good for the second that we saw him, but I want to know why Matt Baker is getting such an audition? I heard that they took Edwards out because of time, with the Bills D having been on the field for so long. Say what now?!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s also far from durable. Do we really want him to get hurt because our O-line needs practice? I think we’ll be seeing more of him in later preseason games once the OL has it together a bit more.

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by TEMSON on Aug 10, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone have a link to video showing Levitre being thrust at Edwards?

I didn’t see it happen from the TV feed.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Gotta watch the O line and D line closer next game.

I watched the game and participated in the Buffalo Rumblings game thread until game’s end. After halftime the thread petered out significantly, but Brian and a few other crazed fans were still around to discuss the backups, Levitre’s scary play, the no-huddle, and other miscellaneous bits.

On offense, I was happy with the general execution of the no-huddle attack. All four QBs ran it, and three did a fine job (Baker – ugh). I give it an A. Edwards looked like he was born to run that offense, and for a few moments, I thought I saw Jim Kelly leading that drive, hitting decisive throws and scrambling for first downs. When the interception happened, the mirage buckled, I rubbed my eyes and saw Trent Edwards. I find it notable that Edwards did not throw a single incompletion on his one drive. Three strong completions and the INT.

Lynch only ran three times, and obviously needs far more carries than that to get cranked up. However on his third carry, there was good news and bad news. The bad news: the line’s run blocking caved; the good news — Marshawn wiggled and did his thing to turn a loss into a gain. Omon seemed like he could be a speller if absolutely necessary. It’s important He didn’t so much make the team last year as Dwayne Wright fumbled his way off the roster. So Omon still needs to have a few good games to stay around.

Lee Evans was only used sparingly — but he was the target on Trent’s big play attempt that went for the interception. Is TO ever ready to prove a point. And Trent is ready to get him the ball. All sides including the fans, seem to be making beautiful music there. Josh Reed had some nice grabs, but inexplicably was lined up on the outside for an endzone comeback route. Playcalling? No Steve Johnson. Felton Huggins could quite possibly be the best player that won’t make the team.

I didn’t notice Wood or Hangartner that much, which means they probably played well. Levitre obviously burped in front of everyone. The tackles seemed to play capably, though I confess I was not looking at the O line in detail. The tackles’ strategy seemed to be allowing the defensive ends to rush around and then push them behind our quarterbacks. It seemed to work for 3-4 seconds, which should be enough time. Next game I plan to watch the O line in more detail.

On defense, someone above mentioned that we seemed to have the slowest front 7 in the league. It sure felt like it last night. The middle of the defense seemed stout — our tackles and Poz were doing their job — but the ends and outside linebackers were not getting to the edge to shut off the corners. This kind of play will lead to outside runs and screen passes KILLING the Bills’ defense. Front 7 Reserves: Nic Harris was around the ball an awful lot while he was on the field. It was a ray of sunshine in an otherwise unimpressive defensive front. Without getting carried away, it’s safe to say that Harris may soon establish himself as the frontrunner to challenge Keith Ellison.

The secondary played well enough to win the game, but they were handicapped by the lack of a front 7 presence as well as Fewell’s scheme of playing a good distance off the ball. Tennessee routinely threw comeback patterns, fades, and other routes designed to find the space underneath the Bills soft-as-a-pillow zone. Kerry Collins’ pass to Justin Gage for 19 yards on 3rd and 14 was a perfect recognition of this defensive strategy as Leodis McKelvin was guarding against the deep pass and could not stop the sideline pattern before it materialized. McGee was never really heard from, which means he committed no penalties and wasn’t burned — while McKelvin was heard from plenty, both good and bad. Corner didn’t have to make an amazing play for the INT, but he did have to make a play, which he did.

I take solace in the fact that Leodis is not just another guy. He is a playmaker, not a solid player. Great cornerbacks are always burned from time to time, and we will likely be gnashing our teeth as his mistakes this year AND crying tears of joy.

Lindell and Moorman stretched their legs. Lindell was 3/3, and hit a 47 and a 52. Moorman’s punts were high and long. He got us out of the shadow of our endzone and past midfield a couple of times.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

My favoirite play of the night...

Poz missing that INT and going crazy. I dont know about you but i wouldnt want to mess with that guy when he is pissed! He was so mad his head was shaking from the aggrivation!

AWESOME

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by NCbillsfan12 on Aug 10, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome is making the interception. :)

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He bolted to try and make the INT and it hit the end of his finger tips – so I don’t fault him at all about not making the INT. But I LOVE the fact that he got so mad afterwards.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

you guys all do realize that the main offensive unit played a total of one series, after not playing football against another team for eight months, right? of COURSE they won’t look as good as possible. defense always dominates in a game where neither team has played much yet. do you ever see shootouts in preseason?

get a grip, everyone. levitre got blown up on one play and you’re ready to toss him? the kid was playing his first reps as a pro, coming off of a season where he was one of the most physically gifted players on the field. it’s going to be a long road, and he wasn’t drafted to be a pro-bowl guard in his first year.

look at the bright side. edwards appeared to be playing well (aside from the INT, which wasn’t all him), TO was moving well, there were some bright moments from new players, lindell and moorman looked good…this was a good preseason game. sloppy, but good amount of reps for the players that need them.

by the_prophet on Aug 10, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree but..

I totally agree but Ryan Fitzpatrick i dont think he is going to be the 2nd QB Hamdan Bite he impressed me last night playing with basicly nobodys besides Huggins

GO BUFFALO

by kooldude on Aug 10, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Folks – let’s get this notion that there is somehow a competition for the backup quarterback position out of our heads. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the backup. End of discussion. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is def our back up but boy he looked awful yesterday

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by poz on Aug 10, 2009 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just because it’s so, doesn’t mean it’s right.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one said anything about right or wrong. I’m just trying to put an end to the “Gibran could be the backup” movement, because it’s not happening. “Gibran should be the backup” is in the hands of the fans.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I missed where it was definitely a guarantee that Fitzpatrick was #2 (no pun intended…this time).

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn’t go out and sign a QB on the first weekend of free agency for him to be third.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 12, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

On Music City Miracles they say that the fake punt should be a thing that the future opponents have to gameplan for. Their regular punter, hentrich, was born in the stoneage, they would never call a play like this in the regular season.

I still think that they wasted this creative idea. Would have been nice to have in the back of your mind, just in case…

by Chriz on Aug 10, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

That would be a good play for the Bills to run with Moorman. He’s athletic enough to do it!

by IthacaBillsFan on Aug 10, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have saved it for the playoffs.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Levitre

I know it’s early, but I guess last night made me realize all of a sudden that Levitre weighs less than 300 pounds. Wasn’t Dockery about 340? He’s really giving up a lot of weight inside and will not be able to gain weight until next year.

by IthacaBillsFan on Aug 10, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Heavier, doesn’t always mean better…

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the correlation between listed weight and strength is a shaky one. It’s not like LBs or RBs where the big guys and small guys tend to fit into stereotypes. Offensive lineman can carry such high percentages of body fat that the listed weight isn’t that important.

I think the more important thing to remember is that Levitre (and Wood) is a rookie. And guys don’t typically come out of college stronger than the 27 year old guy they’re lining up across from in the NFL.

by kaisertown on Aug 10, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

all right, good examples. Let’s hope he continues to improve.

by IthacaBillsFan on Aug 10, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your right that 300 pounds is pretty undersized though. There’s only a handful of guards who play at that weight, although it’s pretty typical for a center.

by kaisertown on Aug 10, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, but even the best technique in the world won’t help if you’re outweighed by 50 pounds

by IthacaBillsFan on Aug 10, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harris Barton was a 2X All-Pro Center for the 49ers and he weighed about 260 pounds in his prime. Technique and scheme can make up for being outweighed by 50 pounds.

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Technique and scheme can make up for being outweighed by 50 pounds.

Completely agree.

by krytime on Aug 10, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention little guy Jim Ritcher, who fought for years and years in the trenches as Buffalo’s left guard.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This lesson should be obvious after Randall McDaniel just got into the hall

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by poz on Aug 10, 2009 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Him too…

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets Agree on Some Things

1.) I don’t believe anyone got hurt, this is a good thing. 2.) The O-Line is a work in progress and needs PT and result ananlysis. 3.) Pass Rush wasn’t evident but there was signs of containment Vs the run. This will simplify our priority list of areas to improve on. Things to watch for the next couple weeks. Remember we practice against our best and are tested against the rest. Tennessee is a very formidable opponent. We get them again when it counts.

The fake punt was the difference maker in the score, don’t forget we did stop there #1 Off. Kind of an arrogant play for Jeff Fisher. He must wanted to win really bad. We have other things to evaluate.

We need to back off Ryan Fitzpatrick. He is going to be fine for a #2 QB. Let’s save the analysis for when our O-Line gets it together. Remember the first week in camp he looked terrible. That is not the guy backing up Trent. He will be fine give him time.

by VanScottM on Aug 10, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

That fake made me so mad

and so did Fisher’s reaction

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by billsoferie on Aug 10, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian...

…when reviewing the tape….look out for #79 Jon Scott. He seemed to be on the field a lot and doing a nice job at Tackle. I remember him throwing a few of their DE’s to the ground.

Also, Bell seemed to play nicely in the run. On the pass I thought he pushed guys to the inside too much. Granted it was usually into another Titans/Oilers player but none the less I like to see guys being pushed out.

by Buffalo Mo on Aug 10, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Derrick Jones looked damn good yesterday. He disrupted a lot of plays in the backfield and got lots of good penetration. Sure he was playnig backups but he looked a lot better than them. The play where he lined up so offsides I questioned his sanity was somewhat hilarious, too.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s also good to note that the Bills probably used this game to more so evaluate players then just try and win the game out right. They only had the first off in for one series because they already know all of those players are going to make the team.
The thing that really suprised me was how little they used Nelson. I saw him in a few running plays and then he would come out on passing plays. Complete opposite of what they have had him doing in camp…

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope they use him more than they used Hardy last year. The lack of a red zone threat was obvious last night.

by IthacaBillsFan on Aug 10, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some Rookies Impressed Me

I have to say Wood looks like a keeper. I enjoyed seeing him finish blocks and stay on his feet. Another I watched and noticed around the ball a great deal was Harris. I thought he would look small lining up at linebacker but he really stuck his nose in there. Honorable Mention goes to Lankster

by telka on Aug 10, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Preseason game

I just watched it again and i have to say # 65 derrick jones played great. Much better than ellis anyway.

by thebillsmakemewannapout on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Jones seemed to have some speed around the edge. He got around the left tackles a couple of times for pressure. He also got some push up the middle when he stunted inside. If I’m not mistaken, he forced a fumble.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones is a defensive tackle.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He still got around the edge a couple of times. It’s called a stunt. Like the time he forced Ramsey to fumble.

by Dyl on Aug 10, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also got some push up the middle when he stunted inside.

Yes, I know what a stunt is. When a defensive tackle stunts he goes wide and the end goes middle. :) You and pout were talking about Jones as if he played end.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes. It wouldn’t be a stunt would it? Missed that one. I stand corrected. Thanks.

by Dyl on Aug 11, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Decent Showing..

I think the Levitre got welcomed to the NFL last night,and that might just be a good thing.He may develop an attitude like Wood has from getting thrown around a bit..Stupar made it hard for anybody to cut him from this team..He and Fine looked a lot better than what we had out there last year.Trent looked and sounded like a General out there..That’s a good sign..Didn’t know anything about Nic Harris before last night,but after watching him..I’m a fan now..Defensive Line has a long way to go though..No huddle offense can mean playing a lot of defense,and the front 4 we have didn’t show a lot of stopping power,while the secondary did show a lot of promise..Poz looked especially improved..Still early though and adjustments will be made I’m sure..

by FanFromThe80s on Aug 10, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Run defense

Didn’t the 73 yards on 31 attempts include when the punter ran backward for a safety for 34 yards. So really excluding that play, it was 107 yards on 30 attempts. So instead of holding them to an average of under 2.4 per rush, it was really 3.56 yards per rush which isn’t awful but not fantastic.

by JMP on Aug 10, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, if you’re doing that, then you should include the 40-yard fake punt, too. So make it 67 yards on 29 attempts, with a 2.31-yard average.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the exact same thing – nice Brian

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

when the punter ran backward for a safety for 34 yards

Is that seriously what happened?? What a chickensh&# way to play a preseason game! You’d think it was the AFC championship or something.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of players get injured on special teams plays. I think the Titans just wanted the game to be over with.

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by jj24 on Aug 10, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That and it was the back up punter, so they probably just wanted to gurantee a win to boost moral.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I got here a little late and pretty much everything I was thinking has been said – just one thing to add. That fake by Roscoe on the outside. A step and a half inside then down the sideline, literally causing his would-be tackler to fall over… Man, it’s too bad this guy isn’t a good WR because he sure can be fun to watch.

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by TEMSON on Aug 10, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve wondered if Roscoe has been given many opportunities other than in the slot. Maybe he would be a better WR outside than in the slot. Not saying I totally believe this, but I wonder…

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by thefourwinds on Aug 10, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uniforms.....

The white on white throw backs looked outstanding!!! Please —some one in the Front Office make a executive decision an go back to the retro uniforms that are classy and have a history behind them. The new ones were introduced during an administration that the vast majority of us would like to forget. They are cursed and have a black cloud always hovering near by. They carry the uniform equivalent of the bubonic plague and need to be burned to release the curse……………………

by Goose22 on Aug 10, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Except I think they made Marshawn look fat. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 12, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny

That photo above makes D-Bell look a good deal like a DE – not out of shape like #71 looked more often than not. I could get used to him playing 1st string. I hope he becomes what the team needs.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

My twenty cents - before Patrick Kane beats me up for it...

My apologies if anyone covered the follwing already…

First of all – I want to know how some of you are able to watch the game, pick out a specific quirk (#73’s left sock was lower than his right sock) on a play, take a slug of your favorite beverage, read the other comments being posted that stroll along at a pace that Flash couldn’t keep up with, eat a chip, formulate a thought, and then type and send? How do some of you do it? I’d like to think that I’m pretty quick, and know football. But the time it takes me to carry out the aforemention process causes me to miss the next three plays. Some of you guys are good…

Also want to make another mention about the NBC broadcast. I did make this comment in the open thread (causing me to miss, yup, three plays). The down and distance kept getting switched with “nbcsports.com.” And every time it flipped, it made me think there was a penalty on the play. It took me awhile to ignore it. Was it like that last year too for NBC games and I just don’t remember?

Did anyone of us think they would go no huddle as long as they did? I didn’t expect that at all, and have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by what I did see.

I’m not worried about the OL just yet.

Those freaking unis looked great, didn’t they? I’m still confused why the Titans were chosen for this game, considering they basically honored the city from where they came from. I think Oakland would have made more sense. They were the team Ralph bailed out, correct?

That punter came close to losing the ball behind his back. If you ask me, I don’t think you’ll see that play run this season, unless of course, you have a punter with longer arms.

To sireric – I forgot who you gave the kiss of death to; was it Huggins or Palmer? Palmer looks wierd with that number 64, but I liked what I saw/remembered from him.

I’ll echo the sentiment of many of you who didn’t care for the front 7’s work, and how slow they were. Collins had roll out plays; my naval lint is faster than he is. That front seven is not fast. Aren’t they supposed to be?

Does anyone know if any player “tweeted” during the game?

I hate Collingsworth – it goes back to my time of hating him as a player. But, I liked him and Al Michaels last night. That’s a good TV duo.

Imagine the look on the faces of those who took Ten -3 while watching the punter run out of the endzone. Gambling is so dumb….

Is Byrd ahead of schedule?

I was on the Alvin Bowen bandwagon at the start of camp. I have switched wagons. I ride now with Nic Harris.

Is Friday’s preseason game against the Bears sold out? I have season tickets, but never go to the preseason games. My group gives ‘em away to whoever wants them. I do hope it’s on TV though.

by krytime on Aug 10, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

To sireric – I forgot who you gave the kiss of death to; was it Huggins or Palmer? Palmer looks wierd with that number 64, but I liked what I saw/remembered from him.

Palmer. I still think he makes this team.

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t bet against you on that.

by krytime on Aug 10, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if I were to tell you that he got hurt last night and will probably miss the season?

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 10, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm, ugh, ahh…Well, that would stink. If that’s the case, too bad for the kid. I imagine they’d cut him, have him pass through waivers, and then re-sign him to put him on IR like DiGi?

I just watched the post game interviews from last night. I was wondering who Jauron was referring to when he said they were worried about a few guys. Anybody else get banged up like that?

by krytime on Aug 10, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Bell tweaked his shoulder – which could be a concern depending on how bad it is with Butler already out…

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say:

Move over Merz, you are getting company.

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by sireric on Aug 10, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Than he makes the team…. albeit on IR. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 12, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still confused why the Titans were chosen for this game, considering they basically honored the city from where they came from.

Bud Adams is an original AFL owner. Al Davis isn’t.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 12, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh, I really thought Bell played well, guess I gotta watch the tape again.

by eze on Aug 10, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, look at it again. He isn’t ready.

by Buffalonian on Aug 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th and 1 play inside the 10

Roscoe came off the line in a mild jog sticking out one arm throwing a very weak block on the CB, but it was a play action PASS!! Fitzpatrick ends up rolling out and notices his only receiver out there isnt even running a pass route. I understand its the first game, but it was a big 4th down play. This is a receiver that must prove something, although he is very explosive. He has Steve Johnson breathing down his neck and James Hardy returning from injury. Lack of focus like this are the little things that matter. Just wondered if anyone else saw this.

by tripl21 on Aug 10, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, I did. Roscoe had that one nice deak, but he proved that he’s not a good WR AGAIN. I don’t care how many of you are big on the fact that he is the best punt returner. He isn’t good enough to be the #4 receiver. I would much rather put in someone else there and see what they can do. And has anyone thought that maybe it is mostly our special team – coached by the best April – that makes the punt returner that good?
On a side note – Stevie was in full practices on Friday wasn’t he? I heard he didn’t play Sunday, anyone know what happened there? I would have loved to see some redzone packages with Stevie and Nelson out there.

by Ghetts on Aug 10, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they didnt want to test Steve’s injured ribs. Although he is well enough to practice under a ‘thud’ environment. He may not be ready for taking a hit over the middle in live game action. Hopefully, we will see him Saturday.

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