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Per PFT: Free agent OT Jon Runyan is on a plane headed to Buffalo. Among the other teams interested are the Chiefs and the Eagles.

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not a bad move, he's better than Walker or Butler at RT

gives us option of moving Butler back to RG during season and be able to run block better

I would prefer a line with left to right as:
Bell – Hangagartner – Wood – Butler – Runyan

by freddyjj on Sep 10, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the odd man out

here is Levitre. Butler being moved back to his natural position probably would be good, but Butler hasn’t been too bad out there. And Levitre really shows alot of promise but what he needs is more playing time. I know the Oline is a mess right now, but if we bench Levitre now we really curtail that kid’s growth.

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guard isn’t Butler’s “natural” position. He obviously has played there the last few years in the nfl, but was a tackle in college and at 6’7’’ is more likely a natural RT.

by karovda on Sep 10, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you....

I’ve been saying since his first start at RG he should be a RT.

by Harris on Sep 10, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s interesting.

First thing’s first, folks – a Runyan signing wouldn’t change anything along the line. It’s Bell/Levitre/Hangartner/Wood/Butler or bust.

I like the idea of looking for veteran depth considering the inexperience of the line, but the key word there is depth.

At the very least, he’s an upgrade over Jonathan Scott, but I think it’s difficult to expect him to be anything more than that.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

beat me to it – took the words right out of my mouth. depth

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by J2 on Sep 10, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thing with Runyan

is having him as depth isn’t going to work. We get him he’s our starting RT, that’s just how his personality is.

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well he’s not going to start for the eagles either…..

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by J2 on Sep 10, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/9/9/1022429/thoughts-on-the-chiefs-signing-jon

On Runyan’s attitude:

Also, he’s not going to want to be a backup. He never has and it’s just not in his nature. Maybe at first while he tries to get back in shape… but soon he’s going to want to play every down. He’s been saying all summer that if the Eagles were to sign him back that he’d win the starting right tackle job no matter who he faced. Again though, that competitive attitude works for him.

But I think right now there isn’t enough time even if we got him to have him start so I don’t know I guess it will depend on if he can swallow his pride.

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great moments in blockquotes right there lol

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is precisely why I don’t see this as anything more than kicking the tires on the Bills’ part.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t kick them too hard. Pooofff!!!

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your right

I’ll add that the fact that the Eagles showed any interest in him is a good sign. That to me implies that he still may have something to offer. I imagine even at 36 he’s still very strong. Speed and DURABILITY are the main concern at this point.

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mobile doesn't let me blockquote.

But your last sentence is spot on. If Walker was cut for that reason, would we sign Runyan? He’s got to be able to keep up with the pace of the O, which from reports is getting quicker by the practice.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

great post

Just about to mention that Neverending: Can this guy keep up with a no-huddle? Not saying he can or he can’t but he’s a Veteran and I don’t know how much experience he has with it. That’s why he’d HAVE to be a reserve.

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Veteran here being a polite way of saying “old as Methuselah”

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by pasaluki on Sep 10, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

Methuselah was the first name to pop into my head!!! I’m so delighted you referenced him.

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Typical for the Bills

They kick the tires a lot… Fans should not get excited over Runyun coming in. Virtually means nothing. Almost like this:

John Guy: Hi John, how are you feeling?
Runyun: Good… like I am ready to start at tackle in this league.
Guy: Well good to hear, We just wanted to meet you face to face and let you know that if you don’t sign anywhere else and we get screwed because we have no depth on our roster that we could be calling you up to come play. Are you interested in that?
Runyun: When do we order our dinner?
Guy: Thanks for coming in, enjoy your meal on us.

by dabillsr1 on Sep 10, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LoL.

Runyan: Thanks, I’ll have six footlongs with extra Ted’s Sauce and a gallon of Loganberry. What’s that stuff made out of anyway?

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's that stuff made of...

Guy – The blood and tears of Bills fans, collected as they leave the stadium.

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by Joe P. on Sep 10, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And high fructose corn syrup.

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZINGS!

atta boys Joe and jj.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love me some Loganberry

I haven’t seen anything close to it where I live so whenever I go back to WNY I buy like a dozen bottles of Crystal Beach and the checkout lady looks at me like I’m nuts, and when I bring it back to Illinois nobody has any idea of what it is. Did they stop making the sparkling kind?

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by pasaluki on Sep 11, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

A 35 years old with a bad knee and a superiority complex. He is NOT the answer, Sorry.

by Jaynice on Sep 10, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a Bad Idea

This would be a good idea to bring this guy in to coach the line in situations. You know what would be a good move also is Ruben Brown became the O-Line coach for the bills.

GO BUFFALO

by kooldude on Sep 10, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gotta

turn over every rock at this point. We need him. He’s nasty, a biatch and would be good if nothing else, as a guy to work with our youth and be a great reserve.

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by MARVelous on Sep 10, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Given Butler’s propensity to be injured at least once a season, this would be a great depth signing. But seriously, Runyan wants to start, not sit and I think Chambers is more than serviceable. Hopefully, they’re just kicking the tires and making Runyan’s agent happy by making him look desirable.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Runyan will sign where ever the best situation/money is and that might actually be in Buffalo as a backup behind the least experienced LT in the league and a bit of an injury prone RT.

That said, I doubt Buffalo would be willing to really let him compete with their starters and that Runyan would sign here. I doubt this goes anywhere, but you never know. It wouldn’t be the first time Buffalo surprised us. People should also understand that Runyan is actually a couple of weeks older than TO and was never particularly athletic. He would be a disaster at LT, so I’m not sure why Buffalo would strongly consider him.

by kaisertown on Sep 10, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t KC the most likely place for him to go?

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Waters still disgruntled?

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Idunno. I’m not sure if you’re implying they play the same position but I’ll say this anyway: Waters is a G, Runyan is a T.

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know. I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything about him. Signing Runyan and not paying Waters would make for bad times in KC.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, indeed. But don’t you mean “worse” times in KC? :)

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

touche

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather them spend the time and money in looking for some running backs, or better yet, a good quarterback.

by Jaynice on Sep 10, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or better yet, a good quarterback.

Tons of those out there right now…. /sarcasm

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 10, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia is way better than trent, but he would probably punch Owens in the face if he came =)

by csc06258 on Sep 10, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia is way better than trent

Way better? Really? You know it’s not 2001 anymore, right?

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would probably punch Owens in the face if he came

I don’t think that would help anything.

I know you’re joking.

My money’s on T.O. though, Garcia’s limp-wristed sissy slaps wouldn’t even faze him. Garcia would be trounced by T.O. and then would run to his Playboy wife, I think her name is Carmella, she’s really hot. Marrying her has got to be the best mis-direction play that Garcia’s ever executed.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 10, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way better at what? Being closer to collecting SS checks?

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by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would take him over trent any day, just my opinion. you have yours.

by csc06258 on Sep 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah, disability after they get behind our Oline

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by WABillsfan on Sep 11, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

nice one WABillsfan totally rec’d

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by pasaluki on Sep 11, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear Dominic Rhodes is available.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t see this amounting to anything. Do we really need an old RT coming off injury? He can’t play LT. I struggle to believe he’d even be an upgrade over Chambers at this point.

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by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With Shawn Andrews (Philly’s starting RT) injured…again, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him head back to Philly with a potential chance to start….

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by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree 200%

by Jaynice on Sep 10, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, with Andrews inability to stay on the field, it will either be KC, which has a line worse than our outside of Albert

Or back to Philly to take back his old RT spot.

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by WABillsfan on Sep 10, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His hairy arms, etc would scare opponents away.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess this all comes down to how the coaches see Butler working out at RT. They obviously didn’t like Walker at LT (or at all, apparently) and kept a pretty tight lid on it. If they have similar feelings about Butler we could be in for another surprise cut before the Patriots game. With Chambers ready to step in for Bell if he is still injured and/or can’t cut it the Bills don’t have anyone to step in for Butler when/if he gets hurt.

As for Runyan, I’m sure the guy wants to play. However, sitting on a bench and counting millions of dollars has got to have some kind of appeal as well.

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by Ron From NM on Sep 10, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This proves the Bills are not so "content" with Bell playing Left tackle.

Hey the Bills are actually making moves, kinda weird timing but at least they are trying to get named players.

by csc06258 on Sep 10, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, it doesn’t. Runyan’s not a left tackle, nor has he ever been.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither was walker

by csc06258 on Sep 10, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s irrelevant. They’ve got their starting line, and they’re happy with it. The only reason they’re kicking the tires on Runyan is because he’s experienced.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think he will want to sit, I’m pretty sure he is looking to play. And its not irrelevant based on this coaching staffs way of thinking. For all you know they might think they can play him at left tackle, probably not but they’re dumb enough to thihnk that. They “probably” do want him as depth but I don’t think he will settle for a back-up spot.

by csc06258 on Sep 10, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I’m telling you it is irrelevant. Kirk Chambers is the backup left tackle, and he can swing. They’re looking at Runyan as a backup right tackle, who could swing in to guard in a pinch, and if he doesn’t want to do that, they won’t sign him. It’s really that simple. Trust me – there’s no hidden conspiracy here.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk Chambers is the backup left tackle, and he can swing.

I heard he’s pretty good at jazz tap, too.

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by jj24 on Sep 10, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Runyan has never played a game at left tackle in his pro career. He wouldn’t have been a good fit there when he was 25 and that was 10 years ago. He would be an instant and probably drastic downgrade over Bell or even Chambers.

by kaisertown on Sep 10, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then maybe he is an upgrade over Butler?

by csc06258 on Sep 10, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL no! They’re looking at him as depth! :)

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont see y thats so funny, you acting like Butler is so good- Im sure Runyan could give him a run at the starting spot; kinda of late to plug him in 4 days before the season tho.

by csc06258 on Sep 10, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what is so funny, is your insistence.

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by sireric on Sep 10, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not acting at all – I’m telling you exactly why Runyan is coming here, and either a) you don’t believe me, or b) you’re just not getting me. I mean no offense, but I laughed because I had to keep repeating myself. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, do you think Runyan will start at LT :-)

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by Joe P. on Sep 10, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well you’re acting like Runyan is still so good!!!!

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by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Walker’s not here anymore….

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by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's really no reason...

to even think he’s going to be a part of our football team. There’s too many other places that make more sense for him to be able to start.

by live6453 on Sep 10, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so is levi jones washed up as well? u know what would really suck, is if we end up in top 5 picks and draft a left tackle. not saying it would, but if it does, it’s something that could have been prevented.

by chaucer on Sep 10, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jones is done IMO. His knees are shot.

As for the drafting a LT. If we do it will be bescause Bell spectacularly bombed. With or without our current HC next year Bell should be enough to prevent the draft of a LT. If we pick in the top 5 picks, I would anticipate a QB.

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 11, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the Bradford injury, it’s debatable whether there’s a QB worth a top 5 pick.

by tm on Sep 11, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If, and I say if, DJ isn’t here next year, I want a very defensive minded HC.

When Chuck Knox came to Buffalo his first draft went like this: #1 overall pick Tom Cousineau, (who then GM Stew Barber failed to sign) Jerry Butler, Fred Smerlas, Jim Haslett. That is the kind of draft I would love. That said, if the Bills do have a new coach and a top 5 pick next year I want 2 studs for the defensive line. Give me Carlos Dunlap, Gerald McCoy, or Terrence Cody. Forget the QB via draft, I would rather go after a vet via trade or FA.

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by sireric on Sep 11, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol i thought u wrote chuck norris.

by chaucer on Sep 11, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure how much this means, but the dfensive line players from florida have not been that spectacular in the nfl, save for, perhaps, jevon kearse—and that’s early in his career. so i don’t know about dunlap. but you’re right, i think we need a monster up front on the defensive side. a ferocious lion that everyone will fear.

by chaucer on Sep 11, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No thank you to Cody. We don’t need a guy that will eat his way out of the league before he’s even drafted.

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by Kurupt on Sep 12, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true i dont think there is, hopefully the editors here, now with the new college football editon posts, could address that at some point in time.

by chaucer on Sep 11, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta give the Bills credit for at least kicking tires. They’ve clearly shown impatience with staying complacent this season! What a welcome change, now if only the wins can come with it.

by Dyl on Sep 10, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If there is absolutely zero chance that he’s going to push Butler for a starting spot (which it seems), and the Bills don’t intend for some reason to move Butler or Runyan to guard, then Runyan doesn’t fit here. If anything, we need interior linemen, not tackles, for depth at this point. After all, we have Chambers and Scott who can play the two tackle positions. At the three interior positions, we have Seth ‘Walking Holding Penalty’ McKinney and Chambers, who could fill in in a pinch. He’s only played inside this preseason.

by Dyl on Sep 10, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is – as Brian spot on points out – a matter of perhaps adding a venerable veteran RT as depth, who could perhaps teach some of the young guys some tricks about how to be effective in the NFL. That’s it

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