MNF nightmares continue as Bills fall to Pats
by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT
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PrintIf you're into moral victories, you got one from the Buffalo Bills on Monday Night Football; they went into New England and stood toe-to-toe with the mighty Patriots for four quarters.
But these are the Buffalo Bills. Nursing a 24-13 lead midway through the fourth quarter, Buffalo found a newly torturous way to fumble away a night game victory, dropping a 25-24 decision in Foxboro. Tom Brady threw a touchdown strike to TE Ben Watson to cut the score to 24-19 with a hair over two minutes left; then Leodis McKelvin fumbled the ensuing kickoff, setting up another Brady-to-Watson score to win the game with less than a minute remaining.
Buffalo had a last-ditch effort to pull out a win on a final drive, but a lateral scramble play fell far short of the mark.
The Bills have now dropped three consecutive MNF games in the final seconds. In 2007, the Dallas Cowboys pulled out a last-second win by the same score. In 2008, the Bills missed a field goal as time expired to drop a 29-27 decision to Cleveland. Tonight, they completed the trifecta.
If you're looking for a word from me, it's "numb." I'm thrilled with the way the team played, and so, so incredibly frustrated that this young team is still lightyears away from knowing how to close out games. We'll have time to digest in the morning. For now, express your grief in the comments section.
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I feel bad for McKelvin. I really do.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
I do to… He made the correct call to run the ball out.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell?
You feel bad for Bell too? He was killing drives and getting run over and missing assignments
Is he better than Walker? I feel vindicated for calling Ralph out as cheap in my other post.
And Dick Jauron can pick talent over Shannhan….
Maybin got schooled…
I think Shannahan would have told McKelvin to take a knee….
Also – you’re telling me Jauron was better than Mike Sherman?
You seriously want to have this conversation? Can’t we just talk about the damn game?
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin did not get schooled. I saw several plays where he was right at Brady when Brady released. If those plays wouldn’t have been quick passes, Maybin would have had sacks. I for one was really stoked to see Schobel and Maybin on the field at the same time. I was afraid the Bills in their stupid ways wouldn’t do this. But it happened a lot.
I don’t feel bad for Bell, Walker, Jauron, Shanahan, Maybin, or Sherman. McKelvin is going to get this whole thing put on him when it clearly wasn’t entirely his fault.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Leodis
One point I’d like to make is directed toward the MNF announcers. Michaels, Gruden and Jaworski all pointed out he made a mistake coming out of the end zone. In reality, it was smart. He caught the ball with 2:06 remaining in the game, and if he doesn’t fumble, he gives the Pats another timeout with the 2 minute warning.
I thought Gruden said that…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for myself
for having to watch us find yet another boneheaded way to fumble away a victory against the quality opposition.
The guy is a professional. He gets paid to make plays. He failed, and it’s 100% his fault. They made plays when they had to, and we failed to. I don’t care what any you guys say about taking more time off the clock, he never should’ve brought that of out of the end zone.
If he thought he caught it at the one he should have brought it out otherwise it’s a safety.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel Ill
This is a summation of everything it means to be a Bills fan.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
some teams really test your loyalty
CUBS WIN CUBS WIN CUBS WIN
by GarlicFryCubFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
dude you are a Bills and a Cubs fan?
yikes
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
it is a depressing existence, believe me.
by Burger Trench on Sep 14, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My face is on fire
I can’t believe it happened again, but I can…
Of course, it had to be the Patriots.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Schobel’s INT/TD and Kelsay out, not a bad night for you buddy!
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Haha
I wish kelsay didn’t get hurt. I don’t want to see that. He actually wasn’t playing his usual terrible game either.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah...
I was imagining K having the realization: “I think Kelsay going out ACTUALLY hurt our pass rush”
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 15, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch out T-Bay
Here come the Bills…with a lot to prove after this tough loss
Thank you!
the first thing all night that made me feel better.
I still want to puke. How much more of this can we take every year?
Jonathan Stupar played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
Here again
youth kills us. This was supposed to be the year that the McKelvins of the world matured.
The season is very, very, very young, and this team is going to be just fine. I was really proud of them, the Oline, everyone.
He has been returning kicks for years. A few years ago Edgerrin James did the same thing.
We are who we thought they were.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Edgerrin James?
Huh?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The Cardinals… against the Bears. Fumble when he was running out the clock…
Dennis Green… “You wanna crown ’em? Then crown ’em.”
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He's never returned a kick before
JJ Arrington maybe? I don’t know, but I know the game you are talking about….the “Crown them” game….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I meant on a running play. It wasn’t a kick.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't help that Ellison got burned
2x in a row on the same play…while Poz was watching from the sidelines
fewell deserves some blame there too.
He needs tp help an athletically challenged player handle a fast TE.
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by WABillsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, rookie mistake from a second year player. Wanted to do too much.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously want to cry..........
I hate this team and what they do to me.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
seriously
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
sad thing is this is far from the worst
by billsforever on Sep 14, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't feel bad
for McKelvin. He had a big missed tackle on 3rd down which eventually led for the Pats first TD. Then a completely selfish play on the kickoff.
his second fumble of the night...
WTF McKelvin!
Yeah i feel the same about this whole thing i mean i created a post prolly at the same time Brain did about this
by Parrish11rules on Sep 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
I’m so proud of the way Trent played – he was every bit as good as anybody could expect, but then this pathetic dumbass (sorry Brian) chooses to threw the win away. We had it, but he costs us the win.
I’m very proud of the way Trent played as mentioned and the same can be said with Freddie. So many guys on our team did a terrific job, and if we play the same disciplined football, we’ll be a very, very good team this year.
Lord have mercy on my soul
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Sep 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
It is whether you win or lose, not how you play the game.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Also numb
That was about as sickening a loss as you could find, especially being a division game. Imagine what a victory would have done for the psyche of this team.
I don’t think a loss does a lot to this team’s psyche.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares, we are not a good football team. Good football teams don’t lose games like this.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That loss does
you don’t come back from losses like that easily
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
We don’t come back from wins either… Remember 4-0!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They either come back angry and determined or sad and deflated. I don’t think it will be deflated.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If McKelvin downs the ball, we should win.
0-1 but not blown out. What more can we ask for?
THIS should be a turning point!
They found a way to win yet another supposed un-winnable game......
at the end. Showing their grit, determination and perserverance.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
oh whoops you meant miami.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Numb...but
I am glad we are competitive and frustrated we lost. It is tiring to lose in such a manner.
On a positive note, based on what has happened in week 1, 0-1 is not horrible. Considering the next 4 are: TB, NO, MIA and CLE.
Based on today’s performance, I think i’ll take an optimistic approach
The run-blocking was very good, Trent looked terrific, Alex Van Pelt is a heck of an OC and our team had a very good game (let’s remember – nobody gave us a chance to win)
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Sep 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
There are so many good things the Bills can take away from this game. I just hope they don’t let the way they lost demoralize them.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
Jaws made a good point
a lot of bad stuff happened in the last five + minutes that Trent had nothing to do with…now if he just comes out swinging next weekend we will be fine
This is the only game I wanted them to win.
There’s always next coaching staff!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
though coaching didn’t cost this game. But not running screens on the last drive is inexcusable.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
With 54 seconds left?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
with 2 time outs left, sure.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I will disagree on the screen. Screens work because they blitz or send rushers. Underneath passes would have worked, sure. Not screens.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK
I was thinking that a screen to Bells side would be ideal at the time…
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 15, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Jax was consistently getting 11 yards or more each time he caught the ball.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Fewell did them wrong
He needs to learn how to design a blitz that actually comes close to working….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Almost no pressure whatsoever
in the second half…
Brady was getting rid of the ball immediately. The pressure was not the problem.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Belichik is a far superior coach to Jauron… He figured out how to handle our pressure (6 O-lineman) and Jauron/Fewell couldn’t come up with a pressure scheme. Bad coaching.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
plus playing off the WR yet again
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So is it Fewell that has made Kelsay play poorly? BTW – he plays great against the Pats.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
We blitzed a decent number of times today, and not once did we come close to Brady. There is no imagination to the blitz calls and they are so easy to stop….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not Once?
K. Mitchell got good pressure on Brady early on via a middle blitz…we were getting alot of pressure early on, mostly with our front four, but the blitzs were working early…
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 15, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
def coach in last 5 min
helped pats win. the pass rush had been decent for most of the night, and then fewell pulled it back.
right before that kickoff i was praying they wouldn’t be the bills and find some horrific way to lose after they played well enough to force me to hope…but they are the bills.
maybe i’m still bitter, but please don’t give me moral victories. teams that win never have to talk about moral victories. i’m tired of having to be a silver lining fan. you are what you’re record says you are, and bills fans deserve better.
by Big Wheels Keep on Thurman on Sep 15, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
There are no moral victories
This team should be sick to their stomachs. They absolutely blew that game.
I want to cry
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
So?
They should be happy? I should be happy? Like I said, there are no moral victories…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I read here yesterday..."I will be happy if our offense scores two touchdowns"
Now its the end of the season…
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
3 striaght years, of MNF collapse
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, Bell really needs to become more disciplined and focused
Bell is who he is. You can’t fault his greenness. You can only fault the need to put him in there.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame coaching 100%
the fact he was fighting for yardage tells me he wasn’t told “the only thing that looses this game is a fumble” get down if you take it out.
But Bobby April is God around here…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s on Jauron. He needs to be talking to April on the headset to remind him of these things. Jauron isn’t worried about getting the formation set, etc. a quick reminder to Bobby to remind the players. You keep the ball, we win.
by Buffalonian on Sep 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, why not take the guaranteed 20 yards? Stupid play by someone who has much to prove now.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
To get to the 2-minute warning.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say this once, and I’ll say this only once: nobody – nobody – can blame coaching for this loss. In a game that 0% of the population outside of this blog thought the Bills would be competitive in, the Bills had a great game plan – particularly offensively.
They just need to tighten up the screws. Offensive penalties and that fumble absolutely killed us. Players made those mistakes. Coaches need to iron it out of them starting, say, now.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno that drive the Pats had when we were up 24-13
and they went 80 yards in 14 plays in 3:30 wasnt exactly a stellar coaching job by Fewell.
They did whatever they wanted.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
Fewell has lost in this manner before, for the same reason…play with fire until we have a lead then play conservatively. He needs to have a few schemes ready to shut down offenses.
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by TatonkaDonk on Sep 14, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I am as hard on the coaches as anyone, but I have to agree with Brian
This was not on the coaching staff. Did they makes mistakes, yeah, but they didn’t cost us the game.
Teflon Jauron…..Nothing sticks to Dick
Trent yelling "WHAT???" on the drive says it all.
A well coached team does not lose that game.
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by BillsNYC on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
exactly. no one knew if they should or shouldn’t call the time out. and how about remind Trent the only thing that you can’t do is get sacked.
by Buffalonian on Sep 14, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Bills QBs always get sacked on game-deciding drives.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
worst thing is to get sacked
oh no wait, you could get sacked TWICE! everyone has been dumping on McKlumsy, deservedly so – in that situation, run it out, but two hands on ball and go down on contact – but i haven’t heard anybody talking about either the line or edwards giving up 2 sacks on the last drive. all we needed was a field goal w/ 45s left…
why was i foolish enough to hope…
by Big Wheels Keep on Thurman on Sep 15, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, the sacks were not good, but it would be far worse to have been intercepted or fumbled. Neither Trent nor anyone on the O had a turnover the entire game. I’ll take sacks over interceptions.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you. I don’t know what the receivers were doing since I was watching the game on ESPN just like you but at least one of them should be running a ten yard route and get out of bounds…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So he didn’t hear the call and it’s the coaches’ fault?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I think TE yelled “What??” because he found out someone had called a timout.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The communication obviously broke down, to me that is lack of preparation. Or you might say a lack of game time coaching.
by Buffalonian on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You might say that. I would say he couldn’t hear the play call or someone other than him called timeout (both may have happened BTW because he never signaled timeout.)
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Levitre called it on the first sack.
He is the guy who wasted a time out.
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by WABillsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That did not cost us the game.....I can live with that kind of stuff from a young line and QB
Teflon Jauron…..Nothing sticks to Dick
And as the announcers said, they didn’t have a choice with all the receivers all the way down the field.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He called it and Edwards is SUPPOSED to be the one to do that
The QB on the field should be the guy making that call, NOT a lineman.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.
i could not feel worse and it’s just the start of the season……………with that said, we should not give up….our defense looked good, it’s to bad this game came down to a stupid decision by mckelvin………trent looked good with command of the offense and the D looked good as well…..lot of football left LETS GO BILLS!!!!
by BigTex_BillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
I know a lot of us swore that if we hung in there, it would still feel like progress…but to loose it like that…
I do feel better about what’s to come..seems like most of our issues really have to do with a lack of experience, and ironing the kinks out.
its different when you're winning a game up 11 with 5 and a half to go.......
those are games even decent teams finsh out.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Snatching defeat from the Jaws of Victory
This was the Dallas Game all over again…Fewell’s squad breaks when it counts. Why can’t we say 3 and out no chance to score, we give up points. This is on the D, and Mc -
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Honestly, Brady was going to get the TD. The D did the best they could by allowing it so quickly.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
the drive before that though Brady had 2 incompletion the whole drive.
14 plays 80 yards in 3 and half min…….thats just wrong.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone believe that anything different would happen at the end?
How many times does it have to happen, especially on Monday night football before we can really think anything else…
Although the McKelvin fumble sucks, I was more disappointed with the Bills letting Brady get that first score. You should’ve closed the door defense, that was some serious soft zone coverage. You especially can’t let him get the TD BEFORE the two minute warning.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.....
or make them burn more time or timeouts……..they didnt have to do ANYTHING.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do we continue to root for the loveable losers???
Growing up in Pittsburgh I could easily root for the winningest franchise in NFL history, but NO, I root for the lowly buffalo bills whose coaching staff sucks and primetime performances let us down year after year.
ok easy does it
lets not compare fan experiences here. We are what we are. Am I heartbroke yet again? Yes of course I am, it only gets worse each time. But 1.) thats a low blow with the steelers reference, whats the point in making it. 2.) the coaching staff was awesome this game. Players blew it, not the coaches. 3.) Yes, I am as devastated as you are over yet another prime time loss. But please don’t start the “lovable losers” crap now.
Jonathan Stupar played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
we suck
I knew we would find a way to snatch defeat from certain victory. Even with those 2 gift calls about roughing Edwards. It goes to show you that we are a poorly coached team. The only way to lose that game was to fumble and sure enough we fumbled.
I’m going to state it again…as I have many time…I HATE KEITH ELLISON!!!
He cannot cover, tackle, or do anything right to be on this football team. Way to give up to 2 TD’s in the last few minutes moron!!!
I have hated him for a while now.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
he’s the reason we lost, no doubt about it.
No other LB can cover Faulk on this team…Mitchell and Poz are even worse in coverage.
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Nic Harris????
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i just responded to you earlier but are you crazy?
I thought Keith Ellison went above and beyond what we could expect from him. He played ten times better than expected. We all thought he was the weak link but he played his heart out tonight. Stop finding people to blame.
Jonathan Stupar played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
I thought the Pats were gonna cut Ben Watson… too bad.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
I thought he was retired.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It would have been nice to see what calls he would have made
to try and run out the clock at the end. I think he had the Pats D on their heels. Some of the best play calling we’ve seen in 5+ years.
McKelvin's fumble "could" play into his head like many think Edwards concussion did last season.
Time will tell, but I have no confidence in him.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
nahhh
He is kinda arrogant… He will be fine.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It all comes down to coaching
This is something that coaches need to state on the sideline before the play starts. I’m a youth football coach myself and that stuff is basic.
I love Bobby April but if he didn’t “coach” McKelvin on what to do then it’s on him.
Jauron’s crappy staff finds another way to screw it up.
Maybe April did tell him to go down right away
but Leo didn’t listen
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Seriously...
you sound nuts saying that B. April is crappy….this game was not lost because of the coaches!
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 15, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand people blaming coaches for this loss
the coaches didn’t make mckelvin take the ball out of the end zone….he knees the ball and this game is most likely a different story…..it’s time to swallow the tough loss and remember, seasons aren’t done after the first week
by BigTex_BillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
But this was a divisional game and the opponent was Goliath. This was the SB for many Bills fans.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be there!
I was there the last time the Bills beat the Patriots in 03 so hopefully it happens again
Yeah the only coach I have a problem with is Fewell........
but its been like this since he’s been here………..so what else is new.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
offense looked good…we got some tape and lets see how we can get the ball down field next week
by BigTex_BillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Winning starts at the top
We have a coach that’s a great guy, but he’s a loser. Let’s get a coach that knows about winning, heck keep DJ as defensive coordinator if you want. Do defensive coaches not watch games at all, by now you have to figure the prevent does not work. It’s time for a change!
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
Jauron cannot and should not be blamed for this. McKelvin acted on instinct.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter
Until they have someone that can provide a winning attitude, they will find ways to lose. Maybe it’s not entirely on DJ, but he’s the head coach and ultimately responsible.
Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!
by UtahBillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Peter King Tweet
“1 thing about McKelvin taking KO out of EZ: I thought, and Buff GM Russ Brandon just agreed with me, that he felt he first touched ball on 1”
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
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by PerryTuttle22 on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Brandon talking to Peter f'in King right now??
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
King called him….?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a loser… Fire Brandon, Fire Jauron, Fire Fewell…. Who cares anymore…
Let’s get a real GM! A coach who isn’t just a “stand-up” guy. A defensive coordinator who creates pressure/turnovers!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that
McKelvin was back pedaling into the endzone and didn’t know where he was, so he took the ball out to be safe. He should have just fell on the ground when he got hit instead of fighting for extra yards. There was just no reason to try to get 2 more yards…. SIGH
by billsforever on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem was he was stood up by the defender. He needed to go down at the first sign he was going to be hit.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Peter King tweets
1 thing about McKelvin taking KO out of EZ: I thought, and Buff GM Russ Brandon just agreed with me, that he felt he first touched ball on 1
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
I dont care about him taking it out one bit........
i care about him fumbling twice!
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Rex Ryan is Jabba the Hut.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Jabba the Gut
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
hmmm...
maybe. He seemed pretty deep though and it is his job to know where he is on the football field. If that is the case it makes the play even worse for me.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
So what that he took it out. As soon as he is hit, he has to realize to get down
He wasn’t going anywhere. They stripped him earlier in the game. He should have known better! This is the NFL. Not Pop Warner
Actually, it was Pop McKelvin.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
McKelvin played drop Warner, not Pop Warner
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by TatonkaDonk on Sep 14, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
At least the o-line hung in there
We could have said “in your face” to every sports pundit out there. Our D let us down by letting them score..I knew it would end like this……almost like deja vu……continue the jokes for the bungling bills
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how many defenses stop Brady when the game is on the line and on his turf?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It needs to be us if we're going to be competitive in this Division
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by TatonkaDonk on Sep 14, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a bit depressing
But I think Brady, Belichick, and Faulk need to retire before the Bills beat them. I don’t know that an opportunity as golden as tonight’s happens again.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
We had them, I believe it'll be scarey
….when the line finally gels. Keep your chin up.
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by TatonkaDonk on Sep 14, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Gruden
Any one else notice Gruden’s affinity for the Bills?
At least a couple of times he referred to them as his team. He loves McGee, he loves TO, The defense is looking great, Schobel is awesome..
Next head coach!!!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone point out yet
Just throw the damn ball downfield to Owens! I have serious questions about Trent’s long-ball abilities right now.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
He was double covered all night.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know….the OL couldn’t hold up for more than 2-3 seconds most of the time….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
if the OL holds up in the end…we may be in field goal range
by BigTex_BillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If they had done crossing routes
sprinkled with plays designed to aim for the sidelines, we could have managed the clock better and may have gotten into FG range too
In the end
we hung 24 on the Pats and made Brady look pretty poor in the first half
Don't know about that...
maybe toward the end of the 4th quarter when the Pats were gaining momentum…
Opps hit post too soo...
and he dropped some key 3rd down balls
I get McKelvin is young and is quite the talent..
but seriously….. what the F. Have same awareness of the situation you are in. 2:OO minutes left in the game. A PROFESSIONAL football players not to mention a college or h.s player should know that you PROTECT the ball when you have a lead in that type of a situation. Take a knee, run out of bounce do almost anything else except run into the middle of the scrum and their chances of winning are pretty damn high. Cripes!
I know that Brady could do whatever he wanted and Leodis is not the only reason for the loss but really this episode is pretty fing surreal you have to admit…
by downstatebills fan on Sep 14, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
Bills lost, Pats won, We play the Bucs next week.
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couldn’t have said it better myself
by BigTex_BillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, my heart rate has slowed down, I’m getting over this I swear. Trent looked good, Fred Jax was awesome, the o-line save bell’s penalties looked nasty. The Pat’s were keying on TO and Lee so we ate up the clock and moved te ball underneath. Trent made a few good long throws (some taken away by penalty)…the D was really good in the first half, got tired, but continued to play well until the last two drives. Overall, I’m still really excited to see this season play out. We could ahve something here folks…play with this fire all year guys.
Ugh
This is the most gut-wrenching defeat since the Music City Miracle.
I don't know
Dallas at home in 2007 was pretty bad…
This was at New England though
It would have been so much sweeter….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I am numb still, in disbelief, but the Bills are a lot better team that the whole NFL media has made them out to be. Everyone was wrong about the offensive line, and the Bills did exactly what Brady did, keep the ball underneath. Hopefully Kelsay and Poz aren’t out for long.
It hurts
need to get rid of #77
bell stinks he cost us at least 50 yrds of offence. most for illegal formation. john runion was in town sign him and lose this liability at lt.
Runyan is a RT for the millionth time!!!
Bell blocked pretty well for most of the game, but he made too many mental mistakes. Those are correctable at least. If Walker was out there, he’d have been torched routinely by Thomas.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
HA… “runion”. At least spell his name right.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
How ’bout Funion?
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Texans or Bears?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Buffalo Bills fans,
I hate you!
-God
PS-McKelvin, take a lap!
Yup, that pretty much sums it up…
by Sluss88 on Sep 14, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
that’s the funniest comment ever for a bills loss
by BigTex_BillsFan on Sep 14, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I could say a lot about this comment…but I will refrain…for the moment.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
he did better than walker ever did. thats my only say on that. he will get better. he had some nice blocks.
by drewzilla53 on Sep 14, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope he gets better but the left tackle is a key positiion and he doesn’t seem to be able to grasp things like the 4 other o lineman have been able to
by jaybird3232 on Sep 14, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We proved we can hang with any team in the league. They played their hearts out.
I’m excited about the season again…I couldn’t say that yesterday.
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
Blah blah blah… BTW, blah blah blah.
DID YOU KNOW WE LOST THE GAME!
You Play to WIN the game… Kind of the point!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
PROBLEM
They played their hearts out THIS game…dick jauron football onlys give 100% one game of the year.
Unequivocally untrue.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this loss speaks volumes
The Buffalo Bills are NOT a good football team. We give away wins, we lose close football games, and we don’t beat good teams.
The New England Patriots are a GREAT football team because…
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
i am so depressed
but yet so glad it’s only week 1
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
yea
new england will win by 20 then…I just hope this game isn’t the difference between playoffs or no playoffs. I tip my hat to Jauron and his staff and the whole team. They were ready to play. Just blew it with McKelvin not being smart
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
Just saying, home game vs. the Pats will be huge. But yes, Tampa just picked the wrong team to play week 2 against.
I’ve yet to see a Bills team play with attitude following a loss. Am I wrong here?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Chargers last year after the Cardinals debacle.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i just cant belive it
y cant we win these games?
ummm… ’Cause we are not a good football team????
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
Come on guys! Let’s get realistic! Yeah we didn’t beat Goliath but we came damn close! Before this game I thought it was going to be a disaster but it was far from it! Stop blaming the coaching staff-If McKelvin hadn’t fumbled we would have won and THEN you would be saying how amazing we were! Suck up the loss and give the team some love-they tried hard and it will translate to wins. If it doesn’t ….complain then. They need our support cuz they can win.
I dont know about you........
but being damn close doesnt really do a whole lot for me……
They dont give out rings for teams that are damn close.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Fortunately, they don’t end the seasons of 0-1 teams, either.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true......
Im anxious to see how the boys respond next week.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm.. But we didn’t win in case you didn’t notice… So will you be happy with 16 losses by one point?
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, it’s time for them to prove they’re winners. The support has been here for decades. Decades.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Fred Jackson was a slam dunk for me in the BR Premiere league.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
I scored the most points in week one I think?
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
im starting to belive that
if u cant finish ur not good in my book
Trent Edwards can’t get sacked in the last minute. He has to get rid of the ball in that situation at least get in a position to throw it away. I know it’s not all on him the O-line completely caved in, Bell got manhandled and it was so awful to watch.
I was actually mildly impressed with the line for most of the game but they let us down big time on the last drive. Good showing for week 1, but then again how good is the Pats D line??
I don’t think he said he did. Trent played well. He had that beautiful drive to put us up 11.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad to see he had a productive game.....
Getting rid of Turk might have saved his season and possibly his career.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent played “ok” and the receivers dropped a lot of balls… But he really wasn’t put in to a situation where he had to come from behind. That would have told me a lot.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I could swear I saw players on the field…. and the Bills up by 11 with 5 to go.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Bills can play with anybody but...
Enough moral victories after tonight. This team has talent. They should have some expectation to come in, believe in their ability and EXPECT to win..not just be content with competing. Forget 5-11. This team has playoff talent. No more excuses…its time to take the next step….they can do it. Alright I have written another generic post but I just have to get it off my chest
by downstatebills fan on Sep 14, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
Bell played well for his first game. Was he great, no but either is Lankston Walker or any of the top draft picks. He did a lot of encouraging things out there. Made stupid mistakes, yes but they are things that are eazily correctable.
by Honestabe75 on Sep 14, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Huddle or no huddle, the play call is the same...
Rip my heart out on two.
O-line looked pretty good, but Bell is not ready to start in the NFL. Talent is there – he got schooled by the same move 4-5 times.
by a.j. on Sep 14, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HAHA
great post
rec’d
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Posting helps me cope
I used to just vent, it’s nice to vent as part of a group. We exceeded everyone’s expectations, except the fans. Sooner or later they’ll surprise us – maybe when we start expecting victoies instead of melt downs.
Defend the Herd
OK
Going to bed… Maybe I will be able to sleep… At least this is a short week until the next game. If we can’t beat Tampa Bay, I might call the season over!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
I hope they don't run the no-huddle all season.
It’s really frustrating seeing them only have about 30 plays/chances to score.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
No huddle was NOT the problem!!!!!
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it can work as successfully as it did tonight, all season.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A Time Out After The Kickoff?!?!?!
Do you ever think a good coach has ever called a timeout after a kickoff with less than a minute left and his team needing to move the ball 50 yards ?
Do you ever think an average coach has?
Hell, Greg Williams wouldn’t have needed a timeout there.
Ralph Wilson – you get what you pay for.
That timout was called by the Patriots.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 14, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Beat me to it.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy called into WGR today saying the same thing this afternoon.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
A loss is a loss and there is no other way to look at it. I think everyone is overreacting a little bit. I don’t think we know what this team will be yet. I am more encouraged than I was before the game started but Tom Brady lit the Bills defense up tonight. He threw for 378 yards and it could have easily been over 400 yards if he was actually playing well. He missed plenty of easy passes and the Bills defense had nothing to do with it.
This game could have easily been a blowout but the run defense was good, the defense tightened up inside the 20 and Schobel had a big play. This game could have easily been a 20 point win for the Pats but it wasn’t.
The only thing I am sure of at this point, is the Bills play next Sunday.
D.O.
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Very well said, D.O. Appreciate the dose of perspective.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Coaching
I think it comes down to adjustments. We consistently show a lack of being able to adjust, other teams seem to make adjustments to our game and beat us.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ya great
They can play. The same thing is said every year. Same result, no playoffs. Glad everyone has a moral victory. Been a great decade of moral victories. I feel much better now. And why does everyone blame coaching, seriously? I’m pretty sure I saw the Bills outcoach the Pats tonight.
Rec'd this post over and over and over and over and over
They can play. The same thing is said every year. Same result, no playoffs. Glad everyone has a moral victory. Been a great decade of moral victories. I feel much better now
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok they lost. Done. I’m more concerned about Poz. If he misses an extended period of time, that’s huge.
Jauron confirmed post-game that his arm is broken, BUT it’s not as serious as the ’07 season. No timetable yet, but it sounds pretty significant. Maybe we can beat the Bears to Derrick Brooks.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn it… I just bought a Poz throwback Jersey!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What's Brooks goign to do for us?
Is Mitchell going to move inside then?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I actually don’t think it’ll come to that, particularly if Poz isn’t lost for the season.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want Marcus Buggs seeing any extended time whatsoever
The young guy just didn’t look like he could get it done, yet….
Poz sounds like he’ll be out a while if it’s broken….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
There’s also the concern if Kelsay misses time. I didn’t see Ellis tonight..anyone else?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ellis was inactive.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Jauron
I really do. But did anyone else fantasize about Gruden taking over after the bye week???
I’ve never fantasized about another man.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Gruden for Coach
All the way! A fellow University of Dayton Alumni!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
no
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And did diddly squat since...
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Wash a regular one with something red.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell
I think it was pretty obvious Bell was not ready to start at LT tonight. I am not saying he isn’t going to be good or great for that matter. He was just not prepared, and was put in a bad situation. I kind of feel bad for the guy.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
Just one (critical) sack ignoring some of the questionable calls. Could anyone have asked for more from this very young line. They can only get better.
The OL played pretty well today
Didn’t give Trent a whole lot of time, but it was adequate. They’ll get better, especially Bell. They did look excellent on screens and tosses. And the run blocking was solid to boot. It was an encouraging performance until the end.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
i agree. the future is now! at least we have the balls to take the chance.
by drewzilla53 on Sep 14, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bucs….?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cyandie over rocks......
sounds about perfect right now.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
Dude. Just take “blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.”
by Zumone on Sep 14, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
amd O camt evn spill ne mroe.........
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll say this: if we’re lucky enough to only have one of these losses this season, I’m glad it was this week.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 14, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, just too bad it had to happen against the patriots. So smug…
Though I thought it was telling that Brady didn’t want to talk to anyone coming off the feel. He knows they scraped through with a bit of luck.
Actually, I would rather it be against someone other than in the AFC East.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 14, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah why would I ever want to go through this again?
once a year is plenty……………seeing as how it seems to be a yearly occurance anyways.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not
At NE, we had the game in the bad, and blew it. I despise NE and everything they stand for. This is the one game where I wish it DIDN’T happen.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Deep Breath
I must admit, I almost threw my remote into my TV at the end of that game. But after taking a breath, I’m much more optimistic for the season than I was going into this game.
(1) Defensive line was able to sustain pressure, even with only four man rushes.
(2) Offensive line was able to pass protect, decnet in run blocking, and mobile enough to support the screens
(3) Trent looked decisive in the pocket, checking down when he had to and going downfield when he had the (few) opportunities.
One thing I don’t have a question on is the coaching tonight. The gameplan worked on both the offensive and defensive side. Even the 14 play 80 yard drive consumed more than half the clock. We just need to avoid the young team mistakes. And that only comes with experience.
Had we gotten blown out for 60 minutes, would people feel better than dominating for 55? I don’t. I saw a lot of reasons for optimism tonight.
I'll be more optimistic on thurs or friday
Both Stanford and Buffalo lost on last play of the game type situations……….and both were up double digits at one point
This has NOT been a good weekend for football for me.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Know the feeling
I’m a diehard Bills AND Buckeyes fan.
yeah thats rough.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
This game brought back memories of SB XXV. The Bills dominating with what little chances they had. The defense making crucial plays to score points. The special teams…oh the special teams.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 14, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
The lack of pass rushers really doomed this team in the second half. Brady didn’t have to worry about the rush and was able to sit back and wait for Welker, Moss and Faulk to get open.
Looks like Maybin has a LONG ways to go before he contributes anything special. He was easily handled all day.
Does Perry Fewell really think that blitzing the LB’s by lining them up over the G or C and just having them trying to plow them is going to work? Watching teams like the Steelers, Eagles, etc blitz, they run stunts with the LB’s to get to the QB. Why can’t our D even attempt that?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
plus the cushion man.............
the cushion kills us when he’s only taking a 1-2 step drop and getting rid of the ball. No chance for a pass rush then.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 14, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely despise the cushion
Give your guys a chance to stop them and make plays at least. Giving Moss and Welker 8-10 to set up shop and pick up easy 3rd down conversions was just pathetic.
Fewell really gets overmatched a lot.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Mike Lombardi at NFP thinks it was the right move, as evidenced by Moss and Welker’s (relatively) mediocre nights. It was Ben Watson wit those TDs… not the guys the CBs were covering.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelsay anyone?
I agree that we had little pass rush in the second half – losing Kelsay hurt, I think, but I think a bigger factor was fatigue given the sheer number of plays the defense had to play. I think that’s the biggest question for me – will the offense find a way to run the no-huddle so our defense isn’t wasted in the fourth quarter?
When all is said and done, the entire preseason was rendered moot by this game. All the prognostications about the Patriots blowing out the Bills were predicated on the Bills unable to find the end-zone and unable to put pressure on the oppositions QB. Well the Bills CAN find the end zone (even with a rookie no less) and our defense can get to the QB.
This is going to be a much more interesting season than I thought.
The life of a lifelong Bills fan
I was about to go get swasted because the bills finally beat the pats….
Now ima get swasted because they lost.
Again.
Ahh the life of a bills fan. Full of booze regardless of the score. I guess that’s upstate New York for ya.
Here is to large doses of advil tomorrow morning!
by lucky#13 on Sep 14, 2009 11:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is swasted different that wasted?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Factor in the soul crush that I get from most bills losses and wasted becomes swasted. It’s a slight difference but a significant one. Find me at the bar next Sunday and you will see first hand.
by lucky#13 on Sep 15, 2009 12:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sh!t tanked super wasted. What else is a night of football for? There is a reason we in buffalo rank at the tailgate top every year!
by lucky#13 on Sep 15, 2009 12:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
like ZOMG is the same as OMG!
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 15, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Flip side of my negativity on D Bell
ESPN showed a quick blurb…something about the Bills O-Line being the least experienced non-expansion line since the 1981 Redskins. That O-line went on to be known as The Hogs, and won a Super Bowl. They also called the trainers out because Theisman’s leg bone was sticking out his pants.
Good luck, Trent!
To deal with this,
don a velour blue tracksuit, go for a midnight run and crank Portishead. There is a sad glory to being a Bills fan and doing things like that really helps remind you of it.
Wandering star?
Or maybe “it’s a fire”. Or maybe a little “heroin” by the underground. Anything to take away the pain our bills dole out.
by lucky#13 on Sep 14, 2009 11:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Aw Come On
He stood up the first hit. That was balls. I’ll take that.
by oompaloompa on Sep 15, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
thoughts from a Pats fan
I’ve been reading all your comments and found most of them very interesting. I am hesitant to post at all because usually in these situations when fans from the “other team” come into a thread like that, it is for one of two reasons:
1. To trash talk/taunt/etc.; or,
2. To make comments that at the surface seem like they are complimentary but in the end are really nothing more than patronizing.
I’m hoping to avoid both of those things so let me simply make one observation:
Overall, the Bills outplayed the Pats…except for both sides of the football in the two-minute drill. Both Pats TD’s at the end (but especially the first one) were being run in complete 2-minute drill mode. Now granted, Brady is one of the best in the game at doing this. But if I was a Buffalo fan, I would be upset that NE could go ~80 yards in roughly half the time remaining on the clock, and do it all without using a single timeout. It was “too easy” for NE to get those points; the defense in that situation really needed to make them either burn some of their TO’s, or else burn more of the clock than they did. If the D could have done either of those things, then anything other than an onside kick isn’t even a possibility. Also, if I am not mistaken, the Pats used the exact same play on both of those late TD passes. After getting burned with it once, the D should have been extra aware and made some sort of adjustment to prevent it happening again. (How often do we see this in football, if a play works once, the offense is told to try it again and again and again until the defense proves they can stop it. I think that’s exactly what happened at the end of the game on those NE possessions.)
On the other side of the ball, the Bills did not look very comfortable in the 2-minute offense. The line completely broke down in pass protection. Edwards committed the mortal sin of taking a sack when he absolutely could not afford to. There seemed to be miscommunication between Edwards and the sideline, and among the various players on the field. Didn’t really seem to be any clear approach to moving downfield.
McKelvin is the easiest guy to point the finger to for the loss—deservedly so—but if I am the Bills coaching staff I think I would spend a lot of time in the week(s) ahead practicing the 2-minute drill on both sides of the ball. Because I think ultimately that is what cost you guys tonight.
I agree with you.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 15, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Stop patronizing us!
Just kidding.
Nice reply.
It was too easy for the Pats because we have no ability to get to the QB. We have one of the worst pass rushes in the NFL and it showed for most of the game. When Brady has all day to sit there and find his three security blankets, it’s going to be bad for any defense.
The Bills won the game for 55 minutes, but when it mattered most, the veteran team that knows how to win stepped up. No real surprise there.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Thanks for the thoughtful post, JohnPaul.
Unfortunately, coaching is not the strongest point on the Bills. Jauron had the cajones to get ride of Schonert. Wish he would do something about Fewell too. The lack of in-game adjustments in the last few years has been a sore point for many of us Bills fans.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Fight On
I got tired of feeling sad after tonight’s loss. Then I remembered this poem from Marv’’s book.
Fight on, my men, Sir Andrew said
A little I’m hurt but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while,
And then I’ll rise and Fight again.
I posted this as a FanShot but it’s probably appropriate here.
Anybody watching the Chargers/Oakland game, or are we too heartbroken? I can’t help but find myself rooting for the Raiders right now. Here’s MNF underdogs…the Chargers are good but pretty unlikeable. Also hoping that Heyward-Bey can come up with some good catches so that Crabtree can feel like even more of a tool.
Heyward-Bey already has multiple drops
that kid kind of sucks
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
ha, well fine then
how bout that del potro v federer! :)
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Anybody know what happened to Josh Reed tonight? We had freakin’ Roscoe in in 3rd WR sets….which is just ridiculous. Was Reed hurt? There’s absolutely no way Parrish should see the field over him.
So much for Steve Johnson stealing playing time. We are going with useless Roscoe I guess….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah, especially after seeing Reed’s great catch early on (called back on a penalty at LOS).
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
That game was yours for about 3.5 quarters
I was pulling my hair out (what little I have) until Brady started connecting with Watson. I know you’re all depressed and coming from a Pats fan it may not mean anything, but Edwards had a damn fine game. We blanketed T.O. and Trent managed to find Evans when he needed to. That Pick six by Schobel almost caused me to jump of Gillette Stadium.
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That Pick six by Schobel almost caused me to jump of Gillette Stadium.
The McKelvin fumbled made me want to cut out my eyeballs with old, rusty, lemon covered Gillette razors.
I believe we are cursed because...
the luckiest call the team’s gotten in years was the OJ verdict. We need to right our Karma for that one.
Defend the Herd
I’d say the refs were equally bad on both sides tonight. The Bills benefited from two questionable rouging the passer calls, and the Pats benefited from some gift spots for first downs. Hard to blame this game on the refs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s like clockwork. It’s like effing clockwork. This happened to us two years ago with the exact same score. They had to throw in the “defensive end scores turnover-TD” just to mock us. And it happened to us in 2004 against New England, when they got 2 TDs in the 4th quarter to win. We were up 24-13 with 3 minutes and I was almost ready to believe this would happen. But sure enough. God is a Patriots fan, and he hates Buffalo. I’ve been personally choking with the Bills now since 1991 when we lost the Super Bowl on a missed field goal. It’s not right. It’s not. It’s just not right.
I feel your pain..
but maybe our expectation helps it become reality, like prayer in reverse. I kept saying "we’ll find away to blow this lead " and my reverse prayers were answered. We need a Patron Saint of Last Minute Wins, we all believe the worst and usually get what we believe. Perhaps a shrine to Frank Reich…
Defend the Herd
by TatonkaDonk on Sep 15, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I like this idea, a prayer to reverse the choking
Of course now, I have had 7 beers, so we’ll see how I feel in the morning, but yeah. Some kind of shrine. Hey, it can’t hurt.
Some kind of shrine. Hey, it can’t hurt.
Actually, it can…but that’s off-topic on my part.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
be glad
u were not there, i had to wear a sweater leaving the stadium.
however, one thing i love about the ralph is the gates, it took 45 minutes for me to get into the stadium today. missed the whole first series
I'm drinking the night away
I am going to play some sad 80’s ballads, drink some Labatt’s, and mourn the rest of the night over the loss of the game, and the heart of our defense for at least 6 weeks.
I have high hopes for this team, and I will stick with them no matter what record they have….I’m ready for Sunday.
By the way, can we super glue that ball in McKelvin’s arms? He better get the crap beat out of him in practice for it….I’m sure he feels terrible, but people get cut from teams for things like that….he needs to return one for six next week so everyone gets some faith in him again.
bills loss
It sucks that we lost. but this is only one game and if they don’t get drive killing penalities the bills will win some more games. let’s get ready to beat tampa bay. anyone know who is tampa bay qb.
it means little.. 1 out of 16
..so get OVER IT! Next week is the ONLY thing that matters at this point. I know this would be devastating, but it’s not like we haven’t seen some really encouraging stuff tonight. I mean it! Call it a warm up game!! It’s tough being a real fan and not just fair weather, but there you go. We have to prepare for next week. We probably won’t go 18-1 for the season, but that’s ALL this unfortunate result tonight means RIGHT NOW! Gotta buck up Bills fans.
John Paul
I’m a Bills fan. And if I was a Patriots fan I would be upset. They were favored by 12 and won by 1. For 54 minutes Buffalo was the better team, even with 3 new Offensive Lineman, and a rookie OC (with 10 days experience.) Brady showed it at the end of the game too when he dissed Suzie Kolber’s interview. He wanted to distance himself from that stinkburger.
I’ll say it now and hopefully get it started all over again… Edwards is god. He kept us in that game and gave us a chance to win, when everyone doubted us. Sure, we lost, we were supposed to lose, but hopefully this gives something to build on.
Edwards is god.
Not god, but he is good.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
defense
i think the offense played great tonight and AVP called a better game than i’ve seen in a while. however, i think the bills D is getting a little bit too much hype from this game. schobel made an insane interception and the d line got some push in the beginning but for a majority of the game we let brady stand up straight for as long as he wanted and dink and dunk passes. we just didn’t seem to adjust to what the pats were doing at all. the pass rush was not that great tonight and i saw very little blitzing to help out the front 4. maybe i’m being a glass half empty guy but the patriots controlled the ball all game (yes i know the no huddle offense isn’t big on time of possession) and this style of bend but don’t break defense just doesn’t get the job done.
Well I think that whoever we continue to play is going to get hammered if they don’t bring their A-game. It was obvious from the Patriots game that our line can indeed play. I was just waiting for this game to demonstrate that, and Levitre, Bell, and Wood did indeed. Wood in particular had a couple of outstanding blocks on the screens to Jackson that were called. If we can play NE 25-24 in their own stadium, in a game where we really should have beaten them (if not for McKelvin’s fumble), this might be a great season. How many teams are going to be able to do that, honestly? To almost beat NE in their home stadium?
Hang and Levitre were particularly good as well.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 15, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I just came here to say...
Even though I am not a big Buffalo fan [Cards/Bears fan], I like the Bills and the Pats, but I was rooting for you guys because it would have been nice to see the Bills get the win against the Patriots they have been waiting so long for.
You guys played really well, and you should have won. Nobody deserves to lose like that, I bet you guys felt like I did after the Cardinals blew the 20 point lead against the Bears on Monday Night Football back in 2006.
Good luck with the division.
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