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Week 1: Monday Night Mayhem

Another awful loss by our poor Buffalo Bills who have lost the last three MNF games by a total of 4 points.

I'm going to try do try a different format for a post game article let me know what you think!

1. The Best  Bills players of Monday Night

ratings:

***-good

****-very good

*****-amazing

Aaron Schobel-  Whenever the Bills play the Patriots this guy goes practically berserk. He says he only has the most sacks of Brady because of how often they play, but I tend to think there might be more to it than that. He played like a ravenous animal, and as much as the phrases "high motor" and "high effort" are looked down on, Schobel showed why sometimes they shouldn't. He was clearly beaten on quite a few blocks and didn't even get any penetration on some plays but he dropped back and read Brady and was able to outright pick off a pass and came close to picking another one off that might have changed the outcome of the game. This quite simply is Schobel at his best possible level of play at this stage of his career, and the encouraging thing is: that's still pretty damn good. (*****)

Fred Jackson- This guy used to be known as the Bills "secret" weapon but now the secret is out to say the least. Fred Jackson really reminds me of  Brian Westbrook in 2007. He has VERY few weaknesses. He is just very good at everything and is a true all-purpose back. He can be set as a WR, he can deliver devastating blocks (look at the Lynch's touchdown in last years game against San Diego) He has elusiveness and power. He has good vision and is patient and hits holes hard and he has amazing 2nd effort just like Lynch. My favorite run of any Bills player was Jackson against the Jets when he was like stopped at the 7 yard line but carried 1/2 the defense in for a touchdown. Monday Night he burned the patriots while injured just like last time when he burned them in a blizzard. Jackson is a player who it's hard to imagine even exists. I know everyone knows his history, but this guy is literally one in a million. It makes me wonder how many Fred Jacksons are like in the world. Players with rare talent who never got a chance because of where they went to college or weren't coached to their strengths and who never got a look and gave up the dream. And I imagine when he was playing for the Sioux City Bandits making $200 if there were times when he way have wondered whether it was even worth it.... But in the end we all know it was. (*****)

Trent Edwards- Just a solid performance. 15/25 for over 200 yards and 2 TDs 0 INTs is a good statline for every single QB in the NFL.  Would have liked to see more passes down field, but Alex Van Pelt did a great job of playing to Edward's strengths and exposing weak areas of the Patriots defense with the screenpass. What I liked about how Edwards played was that he read the defenses very well and delivered balls on target. The Wide Receivers dropped key balls on 3rd down that for the most part were very accurately thrown. Now did New England have a lot of dropped balls? Yes, but New England had over double the pass attempts.  The Bills cannot afford dropped balls. Even against a team lesser than New England. Another nice thing Edwards did was run when he saw open space. That is a big deal. Edwards is usually very good about knowing WHEN to run and WHEN to stop running. Also he knew to dump off to TO while on the run to get even more yardage. (****)

Donte Whitner- I had fun watching Donte in this game. I felt he played very energized, fast, and aggressive. He also played decent coverage when called upon. He was a very sure tackler. Very few Patriots got past him when he had a chance to tackle them, and he made tackles all over the field and got to wherever the ball was very fast. No picks or anything special but he was very effective and I was very pleased with his play. (****)

Marcus Stroud- It's amazing how strong this guy is and how fast he can get to the ballcarrier on one play he bear clawed the RB with one arm and threw him to the ground. He didn't put up amazing numbers but for a DT he had a solid and productive outing with 4 tackles, 2 of which were for losses. This guy is a large part of the why the Patriots run game was completely ineffective.(****)

Keith EllisonA good performance. He was very strong against the run, he forced another turnover on downs (which is a very nice pattern I'm seeing). He had a combined 15 tackles, which is about double what the best Patriots defender had. That's alot of tackles. As maligned as he is, he is an important player and he played well especially since Poz was gone. I don't care if that's a popular opinion or not, this guy has been playing very well for us and I'm kind of sick of hearing him put down by the fan base because he's not a big name. He is somewhat responsible for Ben Watson's TDs but Bryan Scott is more responsible for them. (***)

Kyle Williams- He isn't very exciting, but I think he played better than usual. He was able to collapse the pocket a few times and annoy Brady. I didn't get a chance to really pay attention to him, but he was at least good, maybe even better.  (***)

Brian Moorman- He had some very good punts also had a shank. (***)

Terrence McGee- for awhile was just completely shutting down the Patriots corners. He started to play off the WRs and Moss began to gain on him. (***)

Offensive Line: A qualified "good" rating. Realistically, they had a so-so performance but for their age and experience they meshed well. Bell was interesting in that he was a better run blocker than a pass blocker which seems to be the other way around on the other side.(***)

Derek Schouman: Didn't see how he was blocking but he got some decent yardage and showed second effort to get more yards. Nothing spectacular but pretty good considering his normal production.(***)

Left off list: Chris Kelsay and Paul Posluszny due to injury.

2. Everyone was wrong but some were "wronger" than others.

This is more of a rant: I think I can speak for MOST of us (certainly at least myself) when I say that the Bills played better than we expected. Of course that's the beauty of the game in that you never know who will show up and play, right?

But at least we Bills fans understand that we have a talented team.
If you happened to read Jim Donaldson of the Providence Journal who wrote,

How bad are the Bills? Really bad. Terrible, really. Horrible, actually.

So bad that they make the Detroit Lions seem like a Super Bowl team in comparison.

Or if you tuned into First Take on ESPN 2 which featured 2 analysts "predicting" that the Bills will start the season 0-4, you would think that we fielded a team of scrubs.

The people at ESPN  practically spoke of the game that had yet to be played in absolutes. And yes the Bills lost, but  it wasn't "over by halftime" Tedy Bruschi or should I say T-t-t-teeeedy B-bbbb-ruschi.

Every year over at CBS Sportsline they had a dog named Bowden who randomly chooses games based on the snack he eats first, and he usually has a better record than many of these analysts and he doesn't make a fool out of himself either. Just something to think about.

3. Most underrated play of the game

Unfortunately this play was a foreshadowing of what was to come:

Gostkowski kicks 67 yards from NE 30 to BUF 3. L.McKelvin returned 27 yards and fumbles.Nic Harris picks up the ball and carries it for 16 yards to the BUF 38.

Not only the recovery but the fact that Harris returned an extra 16 yards became a HUGE play. This could have easily been the play that doomed the Bills, although the irony is that McKelvin did the same thing again and this time Harris wasn't there to bail him out.

4. The fumble.

Ahh yes the fumble that cost the Bills the game. Or did it? I say yes and no. It was a big play but perhaps not being able to stop the New England Patriots from scoring a touchdown is what cost them the game. No seriously.

It isn't the Patriots "destiny" to score that was the script the Bills wrote for themselves.

The previous touchdown was scored in the exact same way the dagger was scored. A pass over the middle to Ben Watson with Ellison and Scott covering.The coaching staff should have said, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

And don't tell me the defense was tired. I'm sure they were tired, they played a hell of a game. But they are one of the toughest goal-line/short field teams in the NFL and they knew this was for all the marbles. In the same sense that McKelvin's fumble caused it, every negative play that the Bills have contributed to their downfall.

That's why New England didn't win as much as the Bills lost. What if T.O. catches that 1st down ball? that's a whole new set of downs and more time off the clock and maybe they get another first down...maybe they get a touchdown. The circumstances of the McKelvin fumble may not have happened had the Bills not shot themselves in the foot. So was McKelvin justified taking the ball out knowing he fumbled before? Absolutely.
Because that's what
winners do.
That's what players who want to stop the 2 minute warning and hopefully drive that last knife into the neck of the opponent do. We complain about Jauron being too conservative and then when he's not, it's his fault for not telling Leodis not to take the ball out. The weak soft Bills who we as fans have grown to hate, THEY would have kneeled the ball. But yet they wouldn't be in the position to win the game now would they?!

5. Our Defense is very good.

But it struggles making adjustments. The 1st half it played magnificent because it had a scheme that exploited and surprised the Patriots. Their WRs were running long routes, and the Dline was getting so much pressure that Brady had to check down and kept getting clobbered. They were out-coached in the first half no one can deny it. Buffalo's schemes were superior, they were on the field way longer and outmatched skill wise most of the game but made the Patriots suffer and have to do ironically what we criticize Edwards for doing: dump off. That's right.

Part of what did the Defense in was two things:

The inability to adjust. The Patriots adjusted their offense and made the WRs run shorter routes. Buffalo seemed to just figure they could do what they were doing because it was effective. Well with the shorter routes Brady found WRs before the Dline even smelled them. They started getting these 11-12 yard plays which became very time consuming and really hurt the Bills D. But the major thing wasn't that they were getting first downs, it was WHEN:

6. The clock strikes 3

The Patriots KILLED the bills on 3rd down. It's a credit to the defense that they were able to get them to 3rd down but when other teams convert 3rd, the defense wishes they had gotten the 1st down on 2nd down, if you know what I mean. The Patriots converted 10-16-63% of them which is just vicious. The Bills meanwhile were 4-10-40% which wasn't very good and there weren't as many of them. But if 3rd down is what killed the Bills, Kevin Faulk may as well have been Jack the Ripper. He constantly was getting open on these little screen and short passes and he did alot of damage.

7. The cost of the no huddle

Is big. We saw on Monday what some of the pitfalls of it are. If it doesn't work our bend but don't break defense goes past the breaking point. And it broke in that game (although it shouldn't have). When people say that it's an offense that needs to be run to perfection, it really isn't an exaggeration.  3 and outs are bad in regular offenses but they are about 10x worse in the no-huddle. The advantages of it are with good playcalling, and good production it can ruin the opponents defense. I really believe that. And I can say that the days of the Bills being mauled by those huge nose tackles look to be a thing of the past. I don't think we've seen the full fury of the no huddle and what it can do yet, but it will be exciting to see.

 

Edit: thefourwinds and Kurupt feel the no-huddle DIDN'T effect the T.O.P. and they make pretty good points. There is a definite difference between a no-huddle and a hurry up offense. For example, in the game, Trent Edwards often changed plays at the line and often didn't snap the ball until alot of time had run off the clock. The Indianapolis Colts are known for this approach as well. I guess to me it seemed like their was such a discrepancy in T.O.P. that I figured the no huddle may have contributed.  I can say with some level of confidence that the no-huddle certainly didn't slow the game down at any rate. But a chief factor in why the Bills were pinned back on their heels, was the defenses'' inability to get out of 3rd down situation.

 

8.Why do the Bills suffer Heart Breakers like this?

That's really hard to say.

How the Bills have lost sometimes defies logic and defies description.

Some common threads are that many of these have been with Dick Jauron, not that we haven't lost squeakers without him. I want to say some of them are a product of the scheme they run which is designed to keep them in games but also keep games close. The idea of letting the opponent have to beat you instead of you taking risks to beat an opponent, and conservative playcalling may play a part but ultimately:

I think the offense is more responsible than the defense. With the bend but don't break defense, they are not responsible for anywhere near as many of our losses as the offense. A perfect game is the Monday Night Dallas game. The Defense plays incredible and scores multiple times, but our offense loses the game. Same with the Cleveland game, same with the Jets game. Teams with better offenses than defenses probably don't have  as many heart breakers, but the downside is they tend to get blown out (exception being Denver vs. Cinc this last week).

I guess I feel that the Bills in these games usually play undisciplined, and they play not to lose instead of to win. That's been said alot but you have to wonder if it isn't true?

But then some days I'm with the fan who says they just are cursed, and that there is no rhyme nor reason.

9.Decision Time

It's early but right now is the turning point for the team. They need to get angry at if nothing else, their plight in the world. Donte Whitner said he wanted to prove to everyone that they are a good football team, now his teammates have to feel that way.

9. Looking ahead Week 2

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have NEVER played at Ralph Wilson Stadium

The Bills are 6-2 against teams running the 4-3 defense (Pats loss included)

The Bucs hold a 6-2 overall series edge.

Bucs running back Carnell Williams is back and unfortunately back with a vengeance, Buffalo needs to stop the run as well as they did against NE, because TB will be tougher in that regard.

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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pasaluki,

Rec’d your post. Great, thorough job of putting this all together. I like it. Schobel was indeed a beast, as was Jackson, and I thought Trent showed much of what he’s truly capable of. I’m hopeful to finally see more of the 30-yarders dropped right over Lee’s shoulder, crossing patterns to TO, and Nelson down the seam, but I like the game he played. Oline is going to be good.

Just two things I disagree with, and they’ve been said before:

1. The no-huddle was not the reason the Bills’ D was tired. The Bills were routinely snapping the ball with only 4-5 seconds left on the play clock. Also, I think they only had 1 3-and-out series the whole game. Those were not the problems. Not getting sustained drives were caused mostly by two things: penalties and dropped passes, and several of those penalties were terrible calls. But the TOP battle was not lost because of the no-huddle.

2. Regarding McKelvin taking the ball out, even though I don’t like the decision, I understand that he did it because he thought he had caught the ball before getting into the endzone. So, even though I didn’t like that he took it out, it was the best thing for him to do given his concern.
But your point about complaining about not being aggressive assumes that being aggressive and being wise are two mutually exclusive things. Had the Bills’ gotten the touchback and continued to move the ball in the manner they had all second half, they had a very good shot at getting one or two more first downs to kill the clock.

This is the same thought process as the Jets disaster last year. The call by Schonert for the JP rollout was not a poor call because it was aggressive, it was a poor call because the Jets couldn’t stop the Bills’ running game the whole 2nd half, even when it was plainly obvious they were going to run. If something that obvious is working that well, you just keep shoving it down their throats until they finally stop it, if they ever do. That, in my opinion, is wisdom.

But again, all in all a fantastic post.

Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?

by thefourwinds on Sep 17, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks.

1. your probably right. I know the Colts run the no huddle often as their main offense and they just bleed the clock and then snap. Regardless of why they lost the TOP they lost it by a lot and so that’s something to fix for sure.

2. this I feel more strongly about. I think McKelvin wanted to get past the two minute warning. That would have set the Bills up past the 20 with the Patriots wasting all their timeouts. Even if the Bills went 3 and out the field position + the extra time out the Patriots would have had to burn would have made it very difficult to come back. I just like the thought process and I felt it was the right thing to do. And I don’t like people blaming Jauron for not telling him to down it.

He would have downed it if he knew the Bills would have gotten a 1st down, but I’d rather have him return a kick without blockers than trust the Bills offensive production in crunch time. You can’t say the Bills weren’t being stopped because they certainly were at times otherwise they wouldn’t have had to punt as often as they did.

You have to admit that the chances of fumbling would be much less than the chances of not getting the first down. The return was only mis fortunate because of the fumble, if he didn’t fumble it would be looked at as a great play. Technically he could have been trying to down the ball in the endzone and he drops it and the patriots pounce on it to win the game. These are both freak things, but I didn’t have a problem with him returning it (the idea not the execution)

The return wasn’t like the Jets farce either.
The return had a net benefit of time off the clock. The Jets call was foolishness meant to trick the Jets into playing the run so the Bills could get the first down and ice the game. Your right in that aggressive plays aren’t always the right ones, but I feel 9 times out of 10 this was the right thing to do.

This space held in honor of Robert Royal known to his friends as "Sweet Cream Style Corn" March 11 2006- February 26, 2009

by pasaluki on Sep 17, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree about McKelvin bringing the ball out of the end zone. I think that statistically, it was the move that gave the team the best chance to win. To compare what could have happened on either decision:

By returning the kick, he risks the turnover or ending up with worse field position than the 20. I think that you assume that McKelvin knows not to take it out if he’s got nowhere to go, but a penalty is always a possibility. Seriously though, how likely was it that McKelvin fumbled and the Bills didn’t recover? I know it actually happened, so it couldn’t have been that unlikely. But over the last few seasons, how many fumbles has Buffalo lost on a kick return? McKelvin only fumbled once on 52 kick returns last year.

The potential rewards are time off the clock and better field position. The time off the clock is huge. If the kick return takes 6 seconds or longer, then the Pats essentially lose a timeout. That’s a big deal. Another 10 or more yards in field position also would have been a nice benifit. Then you’ve got to ask how likely those things were. McKelvin taking 6 seconds off had to be less than 50/50, but it was fairly likely. It was also probably about a 1/5 chance that McKelvin gets that ball out past the 35-40 yard line. (he did average 28.5 yards per return last year). If Buffalo goes three and out, the things that returning the kick could have offered could have been game winning factors.

Going over the possible outcomes and how likely they were, I think that returning the kick gives the team a better chance to win. And I can’t help but get the feeling that the exact same people saying that Buffalo should have played it safe are the ones who would be ripping DJ a new one if Buffalo took a knee, went three and out and lost the game in the final seconds. Can you imagine what people would be saying if the Bills lost that way? It would be beyond brutal.

by kaisertown on Sep 17, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post, rec'd up
6. The cost of the no huddle

Is big. We saw on Monday what some of the pitfalls of it are. If it doesn’t work our bend but don’t break defense goes past the breaking point. And it broke in that game (although it shouldn’t have). When people say that it’s an offense that needs to be run to perfection, it really isn’t an exaggeration. 3 and outs are bad in regular offenses but they are about 10x worse in the no-huddle. The advantages of it are with good playcalling, and good production it can ruin the opponents defense. I really believe that. And I can say that the days of the Bills being mauled by those huge nose tackles look to be a thing of the past. I don’t think we’ve seen the full fury of the no huddle and what it can do yet, but it will be exciting to see.

I totally disagree here. Remember, this isn’t a hurry up offense, they just aren’t huddling. Sure, maybe they ran a few plays quicker than normal, but overall, it sure didn’t seem they were really pushing it. Don’t forget all the times Trent audibled at the LOS. When we did snap it, it wasn’t likely any sooner than if we had huddled up.

And we had one 3 and out, the first drive of the game, so I don’t see how that was a factor the other night. What we saw against NE was so much better than the garbage we saw the second half of last season. I’ll take that improvement right now, and look forward to the O continuing to get better. The no-huddle wasn’t what tired the D out…the D not getting stops on 3rd down was.

I also disagree that our defense is very good. They’re average, maybe slightly above average, but they I don’t see how they’re very good. The pass rush is still a struggle. Despite looking pretty darn good in the 1st half and holding Brady and the Pats to 13 points with just 3 minutes to play, they still gave up 441 yards and had the same end result they seem to have way too often. They couldn’t get off the field when it mattered most and couldn’t secure the win for us. What they are is an inconsistent group that can’t get off the field when they need to most (grrr Tampon 2). If the run D continues to play stout and we see some improvement in the pass rush, they have a chance to be pretty decent, but right now it’s a mediocre unit.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 17, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

But the whole team is inconsistant

I don’t think it’s the scheme that’s the problem so much and even if it was it would take years to shift them back. It’s as you said 3rd downs and I think lack of adjustments. Another thing is that the Defense turned NE away twice on 4th down.

This is getting into the argument of it’s the offenses fault for not taking enough time off to keep the defense off the field vs. The defense keeping the offense off the field by failing to stop the other team.

Which is a lose lose situation for both units.

Both have to improve, the reason I’m siding with the defense is because the defense benefits more from offensive production than vice versa. Look at the Colts. The Tampa 2 defense works great there because of the Colt’s high octane offense. When you have a pass-rush threat and good coverage it forces the other team (and even the Patriots) to adjust to it.

And as for the Bills, the defense improved last year while the offense if anything regressed. You can’t call the Defense inconsistent when we don’t even know what he have on offense now.

Yes the defense always gives up alot of yards but it doesn’t give up as many points. Points are more important, and the defense is very strong in the goalline. The reason it’s weaker between the 20s I think is because (and this IS what sucks about it) there is too much field for the secondary to cover and they have a bunch of holes in the zone.

But at least the last several years it’s been the defense keeping us in games.
It’s the defense that improved from 2007 to 2008. And the pass-rush was responsible for 7 points.

This space held in honor of Robert Royal known to his friends as "Sweet Cream Style Corn" March 11 2006- February 26, 2009

by pasaluki on Sep 17, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

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