Bills avoid letdown, beat Bucs 33-20
After a crushing 25-24 defeat at the hands of New England on Monday Night Football, we asked the Buffalo Bills to avoid the letdown in their Week 2 home opener. For the third straight time after a loss on a national stage, the Bills rebounded with a victory, handing a 33-20 defeat to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers while evening their record at 1-1.
This was not a perfect day for the Bills. Four players succumbed to injury, with two (RT Brad Butler and TE Derek Schouman's knee injuries) looking far more severe than the other two (TE Shawn Nelson's shoulder and CB Leodis McKelvin's ankle). The team committed another 7 penalties and turned the ball over twice. After a lightning quick 17-0 start, this game was far too close for far too long. While the Bills flirted with disaster, they also flirted with dominance - and strides were made in this victory.
Offense beginning to take shots, play with attitude
Trent Edwards had another strong day at quarterback, showing poise and toughness in completing 21 of 31 passes for 230 yards and two long scores - one each to each of his top receiving targets, Terrell Owens (43 yards) and Lee Evans (32 yards). Buffalo didn't get a lot of balls thrown in these two players' directions, but they made the most of those deep opportunities.
Edwards' solid start to the season continued. Through two games, he's thrown four touchdown passes - keep in mind he'd thrown just 18 in his career, and 11 in 2008, heading into this season - and is sporting a quarterback rating of 104.9. He continues to make plays with his legs, rushing for another 24 yards on Sunday, and though his one interception wasn't pretty, it came alongside big plays down the field.
Buffalo's offense is now responsible for 43 points through two games - 17 in New England, and 26 yesterday. They'll need to up their production a bit if they want to beat New Orleans in Week 3, but considering what the offense looked like in the pre-season, we'll take 22 points per game for the time being.
It's all about Fred "Action" Jackson
With Buffalo driving late in the second quarter with a 20-7 lead, Jackson fumbled the ball, which Bucs S Sabby Piscitelli promptly returned for 72 yards, with Byron Leftwich hitting Carnell Williams for a score on the next play to cut the lead to 20-14. That was a big blow and, at a minimum, a 10-point swing, but put that play out of your mind - fumbles happen. We're talking about one bad play from Jackson in a veritable treasure trove of great plays through two games.
As Buffalo's only productive running back, Jackson has been asked to carry the load, and to say he's handled it well is to put it mildly. Through two weeks, Jackson has accrued 328 total yards and a touchdown, and he is Buffalo's leading receiver - both in receptions and in yardage. Jackson rushed for 163 yards on 28 carries in the victory over Tampa, and considering how incredibly vital he has been to Buffalo's work-in-progress offensive attack, there's little doubt who the Bills' MVP is through two games.
It's helped, of course, that Buffalo's offensive line continues to exceed (admittedly low) expectations. Edwards was sacked twice more (that's six on the season) and took a few big hits, but the line did a stellar job giving Edwards time to throw for the most part, and they certainly did well opening up rushing lanes for Jackson. LT Demetrius Bell improved on a rough start in New England, taking only one penalty and playing with much more consistency. The loss of Butler, however, could be a huge blow; Jonathan Scott played admirably at right tackle in Butler's stead, but he isn't Butler. Scott limits what the Bills can do hitting the edges of a defense in the run game.
Defense still has some work to do
Helped out by a Bucs offense that struggled to find its rhythm, the Bills made significant improvements in several key areas, including third down defense (the Bucs converted just 4 of 16 opportunities) and in the run game (the Bills held an excellent Buccaneers ground game to just 57 yards on 19 carries). Perry Fewell dialed up blitzes early and often, and though he got mixed results, enough pressure was generated on Leftwich to fluster him. Leftwich finished the day completing 26 of 50 throws for 296 yards, three scores and two costly interceptions.
Many will point out that Leftwich's two picks were gifts, and they're partly right. Let's not pretend that these weren't very athletic plays, though. The touchdown itself was a gift in terms of Whitner's interception, but the catch itself was an outstanding athletic play. Whitner's running mate, Bryan Scott, got in on the action as well, scooping a bobbled throw off the turf and returning it for big yardage. Buffalo's opportunistic secondary will need to step up its play next week with Drew Brees coming into town.
But DT Kyle Williams - who enjoyed a second consecutive outstanding performance, by the way - said it best post-game: Buffalo's defense needs to be a bit more resilient in tough situations. Allowing a touchdown on the first play after Piscitelli's fumble return was ugly. So was the touchdown drive the Bucs put together after the Bills took a 30-14 lead on Owens' touchdown catch. Those are drives that the defense needs to avoid. Those drives kept the Bucs in it for far too long. That's an area that the Bills' defense in particular needs to work on - closing.
Game Balls
RB Fred Jackson - I said enough above, I believe, but I'll say this again: he's our MVP by miles through two weeks.
C Geoff Hangartner - Jonathan Scott gave Hangartner a ton of credit post-game for being the veteran leader and communicator on an impressive young offensive line. The rookies get all the talk, but Hangartner's the key player up front.
S Donte Whitner - I got on Whit's case pretty hard this off-season. Whitner has played like a man possessed in these first two games; aside from the pick-six, Whitner had a big stop on a fourth-and-one yesterday, and been all over the map in making 18 stops in those first two games. Yeah, he's been in on giving up some big throws as well, but for now, his move to free safety looks like it's paying big dividends. He is now playing the way you'd expect a first-round pick to play.
Buffalo (1-1) will meet the New Orleans Saints (2-0) next Sunday in Orchard Park. The Saints, behind Brees' 8 touchdown passes in two weeks, are the talk of the league right now, averaging 46.5 points per game. To say that this will be a tremendous challenge for our young Bills is putting it mildly.
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I would have thrown a game ball Edwards’ way as well. You can’t ask for much more out of your quarterback – and as we’ve all pointed out, he’s one of the guys under the most pressure.
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No mention of the huge hit Edwards took? If this team is going anywhere this season it is on his back. He needs to get out of bounds on that play. He has to avoid that big hit at all costs – especially to his throwing shoulder. He didn’t look worse for the wear but I was scared to death. Go down Trent!
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agree about that hit...
but I live in Florida and watch Tim Tebow do those type of things on a weekly basis. You never want to see your starting QB get rocked like that, but it sure fires up the rest of the team seeing your leader lower his shoulder like that instead of getting out of bounds.
Don’t get me wrong, I think he needs to step out of bounds there, too. But it sure is exciting to see his competitive fire…
Stay positive....stay positive...stay positive...
by Slick Shifty on Sep 21, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree. I don’t think his logic was ever to lower his shoulder and deliver a hit. To me, it seemed like he didn’t see the safety (or LB?) coming until it was too late and his only choice was to square up and take the hit. So, he’s gotta see that coming and get down or out of bounds. Hopefully he watches the film and realizes that he’s gotta get closer to the sideline to make it easier for him to hop out of bounds real quick when the defense is getting close.
I will say that once it was too late for him to avoid getting hit, he did the right thing by squaring up with the defender and taking the hit straight on. I’m sure it wasn’t fun getting hit like that, but it probably left him less likely to get injured than trying to slide at the very last second or trying to juke the defender and make him miss.
I would rec this 1000 times if I could
Go down Trent!
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
cough cough...coaching...cough cough
No love for avp or dj Brian? First is it just me or does dj look rejuvenated by this young team? Sporting shades and pacing? I like it! Avp is the man play actions! Screens! Pounding the rock! Draws! Deep routes! Its like he has been reading rumblings for the last two years and agrees with everything we’ve wanted from our offense.
We got your back Leodis!
by poz on Sep 21, 2009 9:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
completely agree about avp
He really mixed up the calls. Turk’s offense was very predictable — this offense is actually refreshing to watch!
by IthacaBillsFan on Sep 21, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
And how about that hoodie?
If the sleeves are torn next week, I’ll be scared
Jauron’s nuts must have dropped this year….Go Bills!
i love it!
if DJ just keeps transforming until we have the most bad looking coach on the sidelines. This team has needed swagger!!
We got your back Leodis!
I commented to my friends yesterday that DJ’s hoodie looked like the nice clean, white hoodie your Grandfather would wear. Man that guy is lame!
Who can make a play? I can make a play!
-T.O.
Would it have looked better with coffee stains on the front of it?
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Maybe big sweat stains under the arms and hot sauce on the cuffs and collar.
by XtrmeCarnage82 on Sep 21, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You want him to look like Rex Ryan?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
really?
i thought that hoodie looked awesome…
you know, the one time i could wear it before it became too dirty to wear
by quantumuprising on Sep 21, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Love for the HC?
DJ did seem to grow a set on the sidelines when he went for it on 4th down in Bills territory. The book says you never do it under those particular circumstances, but he had a good feeling for the team and the game at that point. I’m one of his biggest critics, but he does deserve credit for a well coached game (actually 2 well coached games). Jauron has made some bold, albeit risky, moves this young season and seems like he’s playing for his job—now if we can only see some emotion from the guy!
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
The book says you never do it under those particular circumstances
It was 4th and two inches at home! I’d guess 90% of coaches go for it there, even if it was at your own 35….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’m still not convinced that most coaches would have gone for it, but factoring in how well the line was playing, distance, opponent, home field and the need to make an early statement (erasing last week’s sour taste)…it seems like an easy call to me. However, I can’t remember DJ ever going for it on the wrong side of the field, of course not counting end of game desperation drives. It shows me that an old dog can learn a trick other than playing dead.
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The chart says you go for it… always.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Preperation, yes...
… but I won’t be sold on Jauron’s in-game impact after just one game.
No one can really dispute that Jauron’s teams are among the most prepared to play. He does a great job during the week, along with the coaching staff.
I would have liked to see more fire in the late second and third. It was a letdown period that we survived.
Again, one game isn’t the body of work that would change my mind on Jauron.
Whitner at FS
HE seems to also make it up to the line plenty, and is showing the kind of closing speed that we drafted him for. His tackling is better and everything. Very good stuff from him and most of the defense. I wonder if McKelvin gone could be a blessing…..?
Jauron’s nuts must have dropped this year….Go Bills!
I wonder if McKelvin gone could be a blessing…..?
No. We can’t go out there with Reggie Corner as a starting CB yet.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
“I wonder if McKelvin gone could be a blessing…..?”
I fail to see how that could be ablessing with Drew Brees and the Saints coming to town…
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 21, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
On the awesome meter
Whitner’s Pick-6.
Trent laying the wood on his scramble. (It was so Kelly-esque.)
Parrish (and then Edwards) running down Piscitelli.
Fred Jackson. Fred Jackson. Fred Jackson. I’m not convinced we don’t see him try to toss a TD next week.
TO after his TD.
The oh-so-risky 4th down play.
Chris Kelsay looks like he’s playing for his life.
Kyle Williams quietly acting like an MVP.
Jauron looking GQ in his hoodie and shades.
Not so awesome:
The continuance of Fewell-led defenses playing soft with a lead in the 4th.
The team could have had 4 other INTs – need to teach those boys how to catch a ball.
1 catch by Evans.
Those uniforms.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 21, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
On tossing a touchdown -
I agree. Now that our playbook is so ‘opened up,’ every time i see one of those toss sweeps (there were a few in both games), I keep hoping there’s a throw involved somewhere.
by quantumuprising on Sep 21, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The continuance of Fewell-led defenses playing soft with a lead in the 4th
Did you watch the last drive for TB? blitz, blitz, blitz – They did play soft for a few plays but they blitzed the crap out of them the last drive – they should keep doing that when they have a lead
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Notice what the Jets did too
I think thats the answer…its better to dial up the blitz and go at em and let your corners play, instead of letting teams not only drive down…but also eat clock
Jauron’s nuts must have dropped this year….Go Bills!
by killascript on Sep 21, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
couldn’t agree more
You’re doing multiple things when doing that:
1) Hitting the QB – which is always good for the D
2) Making him get rid of the ball quickly so the corners have better opportunities to make plays on the ball
3) causing confusion – receivers not breaking their routes off, QB hurrying throws
4) general mayhem in the backfield
I love the pressure – it seems far more effective than our 2 deep shell. Plus doesn’t it seem like the good D’s always blitz like crazy when up at the end?
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I meant to add that caveat in there – the last drive was everything they should have been doing…if I was calling plays. =)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 21, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea
hate the execution. We brought a few corner blitzes yesterday, which seemed to be a million times more productive than our typical run the LB’s up the middle and hope they beat the OL strategy. Why can’t we throw a few wrinkles into our blitzes??? They are sooooo easy for an OL to stop right now….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Mitchell knocked down Leftwish so many times he was getting testy towards the end of the game. Remember him shoving Mitchell off him in the 4th quarter? Mitchell was getting to him yesterday.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Parrish does deserve props for running down Piscitelli, but it’s important to remember that Jackson’s fumble was caused when Parrish completely missed his blocking assignment, allowing his guy to pop Jackson hard from Jackson’s blindside. Yes, Jackson is supposed to be alert to possible hits all the time, but this was a case where the block was so badly whiffed that it would have been hard to anticipate it.
Roscoe did gain ten yards on a reverse and had one nice punt return, but he also let a punt go when he should obviously have done a fair catch and that cost the Bills about 15 yards of field position. And of course he had zero receptions in the passing game due to his continued and pathetic inability to gain separation. I remain amazed that he is still on the roster while Steve Johnson, who could make a big impact on the passing game, is kept inactive.
The only fault I find Parrish’s missed block was asking him to do so in the first place. He’s not going to drive anyone to the ground.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 21, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY
Josh Reed, where art thou? Why are the coaches asking Roscoe to block, while an excellent blocking Reed is standing on the sidelines?? Why is Roscoe even in the game so much?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Jackson's Fumble came off his thigh.
Freddy was doing what Freddie does and the ball was popped out by his own thigh. Should of been tucked, but he is human and who am I to say it should of been tucked.
Excuses are a sign of weakness!!!!!!
Look at it again
No fault to parrish…not sure abut the thigh, but I just think Freddy had his one in two games, mental slip up. Bad timing, thankfully it didn’t run the game.
Regardless, as this team continues to minimize the mental mistakes, we might be very good, especially once Poz and Lynch are in the lineup.
One criticism, stevie johnson anyone?
Jauron’s nuts must have dropped this year….Go Bills!
by killascript on Sep 21, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He fumbled against NE too, didn’t he? The Pats just didn’t recover it…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Doesn’t Jackson still have a nagging (if minor) thumb injury? That could be a potential issue.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 21, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Left thumb/wrist injury
He definitely fumbled after carrying it in his right hand against Tampa. I don’t remember the Pats fumble.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I came off his thigh, but only after he was hit hard by a defensive player he couldn’t have seen coming, and that player was supposed to have been blocked by Parrish.
You can’t blame a fumble on a missed block. Jackson is going to get hit on 95% of his carries and you can’t blame an RB’s fumble on a guy for letting the RB get tackled. Macktruck, I hate to play psychologist, but I think you’re just trying to shift the blame from a player you like onto a player you don’t like.
Also, Jackson saw the defender coming and in no way was he hit hard.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009092009/2009/REG2/buccaneers@bills#tab:watch
Actually, I’m mainly hoping they will put Stevie Johnson on the field and Parrish is blocking that. That’s about the only thing he is capable of blocking.
My prediction remains that when Stevie starts playing the coaches will discover that he is the equivalent of Fred Jackson as an offensive weapon.
That reverse was T.O., not Parrish.
Roscoe has no rushing yards this year. Nor receiving yards I might add…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
wait what?
I’m pretty sure I remember being excited about Roscoe getting the ball in a non-return situation. I’m almost confident of that.
We got your back Leodis!
They both had reverses yesterday.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out Pro Football Reference. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/ParrRo00.htm No rushing or receiving stats. Maybe they are wrong.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, they are. Check NFL.com. Parrish has 1 rush for 9 yards. Which happened yesterday. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Okie dokie.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ok thank you
i was going to say, i know the internet is always rigth but I know what i saw (and i mostly remember it because i was being a moron and bragging to other teams fans that Roscoe is going to show up this year, im glad i wont see any of them again)
We got your back Leodis!
ha
i was being a moron and bragging to other teams fans that Roscoe is going to show up this year
Yeah, that is pretty moronic!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I hope Fewell learned a little something in this game. Pressure on the QB = good things for the defense. Was it just me or did it seem like Mitchell blitzed on every play in the fourth quarter? If he didn’t it was close.
I have to say this also; Kyle Williams was a beast in there.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
not mention
teams have to double-team Stroud. He made Leftwich look silly on a sack early in the game. Stroud goes under the radar in this defense. He allows Williams to go one-on-one. Still, give credit to Kyle. He still has to make the play.
totally agree
that Stroud does fly under the radar with this fan base. He is so good.
We got your back Leodis!
I have to say this also; Kyle Williams was a beast in there.
Yup – both Bills’ pick-6s have come on pressure up the middle from Williams.
Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?
by thefourwinds on Sep 21, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it sure looked like Fewell had Mitchell running into the Guard or Center on every play late in the game. I guess we can call those ‘blitzes’ although it’d be nice if they worked more than just occasionally!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I thought they did an alright job, or at least as good as this DL is going to make them. The blitzes didn’t result in sacks, but Leftwich did have to get the ball out quick, Mitchell hammered him after the play a few times and Leftwich threw some few awful passes. Overall, the defense gave up very few points (despite a few long drives) and Leftwich’s stats were pretty bad.
Is the tight-end v. our linebackers/safeties a cause for concern?
Just throwing this out there – should it concern us that this defense has given up five touchdowns, four of which were to tight ends. Three of the catches were tds for over 15 yards – the two to Watson against NE and the 20-yarder by Winslow yesterday. I really hope i’m not starting to notice a trend here. Maybe you can read it like we’re not giving up touchdowns to receivers, but at what point do you say “oh man Jeremy Shockey is playing us next week?”
The Winslow TD was actually 42 yards. That play, in particular, can be attributed to poor coverage – as can the first Watson TD. The second Watson TD was a perfect throw/catch to beat solid coverage from Ellison.
It’s a concern, but Winslow wasn’t much of a factor in the second half. Brees/Shockey is rather imposing next week, though.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 21, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Brees/Shockey is rather imposing next week, though.
uhhh Brees and that offense is rather imposing.
Glad i’m not Fewell. I’m not sure how to play them – blitz or sit back. But that’s for another day this week.
Today is the day for savoring a W.
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I’m not sure how to play them – blitz or sit back
Not sure it matters. I didn’t see the game, but I can’t imagine that the Eagles sat back and didn’t blitz. But I also don’t see siting back in a zone as the answer.
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The answer is getting pressure with the front 4....hahahahhahhhahahaha!!!!
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
I would think a nice cold rain shower could put a damper on Brees’ production. In the event that happens, I like the Bills chances with a running game, vs. the Saints.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 21, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't worry too much
About Winslow. You can call it a busted coverage, but he and stevens are kind of athletic freaks – its not too often you have to worry about assigning a corner to a tight end because he’s so fast. I would think we’d have to worry more about bringing shockey down if he gets the ball than covering him in the first place.
by quantumuprising on Sep 21, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
If I’m not mistaken, one of the TD’s had Whitner and McGee in coverage against one of the tall TB TE’s.
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
Thats what i’m saying is so abnormal for the TB TE’s – too fast for a linebacker, too big for a DB. That’s why i don’t feel terrible about giving up the touchdowns to them, as opposed to ben graham.
by quantumuprising on Sep 21, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Winslow beat McGee, with Whitner being too late to the party. I think it’s concerning that our safeties are too late to make plays on the ball rather than the TE beating the initial coverage.
I’m not worried one bit about Shockey.
~K
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Saints
Looking ahead. Both Bell and Lance Moore got dinged up last week. P. Thomas is still not completely healthy.
We need a healthy McGee, Florence, Youbouty, McKelvin and Corner.
Hopefully, Butler, Nelson and Schoman will be short term injuries.
If Butler is out for the season is there any chance whatsoever that Walker finds his way back on the roster?
If Butler is out for the season is there any chance whatsoever that Walker finds his way back on the roster?
I would say slim to none. The biggest problem for Walker was his inability to keep up with the no-huddle. I doubt he has gained the stamina to do so in 2 weeks.
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Injuries
The word on Butler is VERY bad. Waiting on the others. Forget Walker.
Geronimo
Well lets be honest, I think we all thought that Butler would miss at least some time with injury. This is earlier then what we expected, and unfortunately seemingly longer then any of us thought, but a good back-up plan should have been anticipated. I just hope that Scott and Chambers can hold the fort.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
What was the outcome on the Runyan visit now that we have an “opening” at that position?
Stay positive....stay positive...stay positive...
by Slick Shifty on Sep 21, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Schouman
Is there any word on his knee?
To me, it looked serious, like he tore something. Very best case scenario was a severe severe severe sprain, to my eyes.
He was playing great football.
The reports I have read indicate he was walking without a limp after the game and that the x-rays did not find any structural damage. If that is true and it’s just a sprain, he should be back in two weeks or so.
Xray’s mean nothing. Coming from someone who just blew his knee out, the only definitive teller in the case of a knee injury is an MRI – and even then sometimes you need a scope just to really find out. I’d say both he and butler are probably done for the year. I cringed at both injuries. I think that’s the main fear of an offensive lineman, and why all college o-linemen wear knee braces – sometimes you just get rolled up on by a fat guy.
Further, on Shouman, its still pretty easy to walk with a limp after tearing an acl or mcl. I’d wait a few more days for a real diagnosis.
by quantumuprising on Sep 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
After the game Schou was walking around in the locker room which means no ligament damage or his knee would be moving all over the place. He is going for an MRI and I expect him to be out for a little while but not on IR.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
After the game Schou was walking around in the locker room which means no ligament damage or his knee would be moving all over the place.
Not necessarily. My buddy just had surgery for a torn ACL that he’d had for 6 months. He could walk fine, but not much beyond that.
Guys walk off the field with ACL/MCL/PCL injuries from time to time. I don’t think Schouman walking around means he’s in the clear from a torn ligament…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I guess I was wrong on that, too. I thought it your ligament was torn your knee was not functionally stable.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 21, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
thoughts
good win, OL gets all the game balls, as well as Stroud/Williams in my book. Those guys are carrying that DL right now. I can’t wait to see the game plan for N.O. Running a no huddle and a Cover 2 all game is a recipe for disaster. I’ll be interested to see how Jauron plays it next week. I’d keep Ellis activated and have 5 DE’s to keep them fresh against Brees.
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I think running the no huddle would be fine, but this would be a great instance to do it how New England did against us – use all short, underneath passes and slants, like an extended running game. Sprinkle in some freddy, and you’ve got drives that take up lots of time and keep brees and co off the field
by quantumuprising on Sep 21, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
If We do this Next Week we will win RIght?
Ok Watching the game last night the bills played a almost perfert game last night. Tampa’s Running game that is so good had gotten ShutDown. Tampa’s Passing game was ok but it was limited. On the Offence We could not have done any better Besides that Drop Ball by T.O. Jackson had a Great Game again and so did Edwards. Now the Real Question is can the bills win if they do this next week when they face the saints? I sya they can beat the saints Call me CRAZY but anything can happen.
GO BUFFALO
Think about it – you said Tampa’s passing game was good and that was with Leftwich, not Brees. Next week will be a much harder task than the mental one that awaited them in New England.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 21, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
A perfect game?
Seven penalties… One bad interception on a drive all the way down the field. One bad fumble that sets up the Bucs at the Buffalo nine yard line and leads to a score. Still, very shoddy special teams play – man oh man, if only Youboty could have kept his eye on the ball. A big drop by Owens.
The scary part, is that i’d argue like many people, the Bills have been good, but could be a lot better. New Orleans will be a challenge. We finally are hoping that our offense can outscore people. When’s the last time you thought that! I am so excited to see how they exploit jabari greer.
I said almost perfect
yea that is all true and Greer Will know what the bills will be doing for the most part
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whats up with all the strange capitalization? : )
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot wait to see both Lynch and FJ cruiser both in the backfield against Miami in two weeks
I’m not too optimistic about the Saints game though…Their offense has the 2nd most points in the first two games of the season (93) in NFL history. If the Bills can’t sustain pressure on Brees, its going to be very tough to beat these guys.
Buggs and Ellison is 2/3 of our LBs!
No mention of Buggs means that he did ok (I hope). He was the key question mark for this game to me. So, props to Buggsy!
Buggs honestly didn’t play all that much. Maybe 30% of snaps if he was lucky. Lots of throws meant lots of nickel.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 21, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Things still don't seem right
I loved watching the game and seeing an win. I loved seeing the 17-0 run early on, but I was scared by a few things. First off, the Bills D still seems to vulnerable to the pass. In years past we have all seen our run D continually being moved around and large gains made there. This in turn made us believe that the D-backs were doing well. Through two games however the secondary has allowed over 650 Yards and 5 TDs.
This however is also in review of my next point; the team still isn’t bringing down the QB with only 3 sacks so far. Maybin keeps looking like he hopes to run past the tackle without any use of a move beyond his speed. He also hasn’t been cornering and just seems to go straight ahead. I would like to see more pressure as we seem to only apply it randomly and not constantly throughout the game.
This upcoming week I believe we have a benefit that most the teams out there haven’t had. Our Depth at corner is good, which will enable us to cover the numerous receivers the Saints utilize. Offensively, more so then ever, running the ball and keeping Brees on the sideline is Key.
passing game
the bills had over 100 passes on they so far this year so i dont think that it is right that everybody is saying that the pass defence needs to imporve. They held brady to mostly short throws and they did the same with Tampa so i they are doing great
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100 passes
happens because they aren’t stopping anyone. NE, and to a lesser extent TB, just kept picking up first downs which is why they are able to continue throwing so many passes. The D has to do a better job making stops, which means they need to start getting some pressure, and that is something that probably isn’t going to happen anytime soon, unfortunately…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
also they’ve thrown more because we’ve been winning.
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I think that was the case with NE, but not with Tampa. They didn’t throw 50 times because it was effective and they were creating their own chances to throw. They had 5 different 3 and outs. Of their 12 drives (13 if you count the one play TD drive after the fumble return), Tampa gained 25 yards or fewer on 9 drives. The Bucs racked up yards threw the air because they threw the ball a ton of times and they only did that because they had a ton of drives.
That’s why I said to a lesser extent!
They still racked up those yards…..had to do it somehow….they weren’t nearly as efficient at picking up firsts as NE, that’s for sure.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
But I don’t think Tampa picked up first downs by passing with any success. They had a couple nice drives, but Buffalo’s offense typically gave the ball back to Tampa in a hurry and that gave them the opportunuty to run a lot of plays. Buffalo shut down the run to the point where Tampa abandoned it. Leftwich only completed 50% of his passes, so they couldn’t have been that successful dinking and dunking and picking up first downs. how much better is the pass D supposed to be?
Of the 54 pass plays that Tampa called, Leftwich threw for a first down on 9 of them. Against NE, Edwards had 9 first downs on just 31 plays and Brady had 18 on 55 plays. Tampa did an awful job of sustaining drives.
True, TB put up some yards, but wasn’t as effective as NE. If the Bills are as efficient at generating pressure against Brees as they were the first couple of games, then they will be doomed on Sunday. Except for the 4th quarter, I saw too many blitz pick-ups by the Bucs, from the inside and outside. I didn’t spend the time counting, but my general impression is that the corner blitzes were often steered harmless away behind the QB, and the inside blitzes were often bottled up. Again, that is until the 4th Qtr. Fewell will need to be more creative in generating pressure. Throwing lots of bodies around will only create opportunities for a talented and heady QB.
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Maybin
To me, he looks a bit overmatched. He hasn’t really come close to beating an OT yet, and hasn’t shown any pass rush moves outside of trying to use speed to beat tackles. He needs to improve by leaps and bounds quickly; we need it…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Schobel lining up
Sorry to mention something that didn’t affect the game, but has anyone else noticed that in both of the games, Schobel has been consistently lining up off-side? Almost every play, I get so worried that he will be called for it — but hasn’t. Its been really bothering me.
I guess he's not offsides then, is he?!?!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Great post Brian, as always.
The offense is really playing well. Trent’s been very confident, running game has been working well. Our top WRs started to make some plays. Share between run-pass game is really great.
Only few things about Offense: 1) T.O. and Evans really need to stop drop many balls. It’s bad to see some good drive got killed by rally bad drops. Hope they can be more . 2) I’d like to see some run TDs, that’s where Lynch could be perfect fit in this team when he comes back. Jackson has been unbelievable, but I think Lynch could be a better red zone threat. It’s a good problem though.
Defense has been starting games really well, but during the game pressure come back to last year status and opponents started to get comfortable to make plays. We have 8th best Defense in running game and 31st defense against passing game.Not a good sign when you have Drew Brees next week. I hope they could make a good gameplan and contain NO offense.

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