Red-hot Saints present serious challenge for Bills
by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 11:15 AM EDT
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PrintAnd that, my friends, is today's winner for "DUH" headline of the day.
The New Orleans Saints are 2-0. They are averaging over 46 points per game. Drew Brees, quarterback extraordinaire, has thrown nine touchdowns and has by far the NFL's highest quarterback rating. New Orleans' offense is ranked No. 1 in the NFL overall, No. 2 in passing, and No. 8 in rushing. They've forced opponents into seven turnovers, and are winning games by an average of 22 points. Their ridiculous production has turned them into one of the big stories early in the 2009 season.
Saints fans craved respect, and now they've got it. They're tossing the word "dominance" around with alarming frequency, and talking about Brees as the best quarterback in Saints history - which he probably already is.
Even if some of the talk is a bit premature - and let's face it, they haven't been impressive to the point where they're a shoo-in for anything other than being a serious early contender - they're a formidable challenge for any team, and in particular our young Buffalo Bills. Can they be beaten? Time will tell, but for now, we're going to pull some insight from the two teams the Saints have beaten thus far this season.
Chatting with the defeated
Last weekend, the Saints traveled to Philadelphia and beat the Eagles - playing without Donovan McNabb - by a final score of 48-22. I asked Jason Brewer, lead blogger at Bleeding Green Nation, if he had any insight on how one might try to slow the Saints down. His response:
If I had an answer, I'd be happy to give it to you... but I don't. If anything, it's just the basic football stuff - bring pressure and control the ball. When the Eagles' pressure was actually able to get to Brees, they forced a fumble and a pick, but if you blitz and don't get there, then he'll tear you up.
Yeah - that's not particularly helpful, but it does underscore an important point: strong, solid, fundamental football can beat anyone in this league. Jason did, however, offer up words of wisdom to his BGN community after that loss that can be applied to those of us trying to convince ourselves that the Saints are overrated because of the teams they've played - and in this case, the player's they haven't had to play:
One thing I can say without a shadow of a doubt is that the loss of McNabb isn't what lost this game for the Eagles. If you blame that or blame (Kevin) Kolb, I have to wonder whether you're trying to convince yourself that the defense can't be this bad...
New Orleans went to Detroit in Week 1 and picked up a 45-27 win there. Sean Yuille, lead blogger at Pride of Detroit, put together a drive-by-drive analysis of the game, and the below blurb makes an important point:
The Lions quickly went three and out, and the Saints hit the end zone just as fast. Already having good field position, the Saints moved into Lions territory with a couple of plays that went for 7 yards, and on the next play Brees found a wide open Meachem for a 39-yard touchdown. Just like that, the Saints led 14-0.
Those two drives were the second and third drives of the game. New Orleans had a 14-0 lead within moments. Taking an early lead is critical to in-game success in the vast majority of NFL games, and it's something the Saints have employed in both of their victories. They put up 14 points on Detroit before the Lions scored, and they drew first blood in Philadelphia as well. But there is room for error with these Saints...
The Lions faced 3rd and 8 as the second quarter began, and (Matt) Stafford found (Kevin) Smith on a dump off for a gain of 7. Jim Schwartz called a timeout to talk things over and ultimately decided to go for it. With (Jerome) Felton in the backfield, the Saints were definitely keying in on the big man in this situation. With that in mind, Stafford faked a handoff to him and pitched it outside to Smith, who was able to walk into the end zone for a 4-yard touchdown. This was a great play call and cut the Saints' lead down to 4 points.
They let the Lions back into it - after taking that 14-0 lead, the Lions scored ten unanswered to make it 14-10. Then, in Philly, New Orleans took an early 7-0 lead, but gave up a long scoring play to DeSean Jackson to even the score. The Saints let the Eagles back into it, too - even without McNabb - and held only a 17-13 lead at halftime in that game.
Beating good teams doesn't take rocket science
On the surface, the Saints have been dominant - and, in reality, they've still been dominant, but they're far from perfect. The Lions and Eagles have made their lives easy early in the season, turning the ball over regularly and giving Brees short fields. In short, they've played bad football - and I doubt any Lions or Eagles fan out there would disagree with that.
The Saints are a good, possibly great football team. They've beaten two teams that have made a lot of mistakes, and there were ebbs and flows in the game, just as there are in most NFL games. They kept the Lions and the Eagles alive with some mistakes of their own. They are not perfect. It will take good, solid football to compete with them. Before we even get into game plans and strategies to try to slow down this attack, this most important, fundamental aspect of the game must be re-iterated: all the scheming in the world won't mean a thing if the Bills don't first give themselves a chance to win by playing smart, mistake-free football. Mistakes have been prevalent early in the season for Buffalo.
We talk about the Bills here on a daily basis, and for the most part, there's a degree of optimism about this Bills team from our fan base. Possibly even moreso than our season opener in New England, these Saints present a tremendous challenge for this team. But it won't take previously unseen creativity and trickery to beat this team. It will take good, solid, fundamental football - tackle, play fast, start fast, don't make mistakes. Whether or not the Bills will be able to do that is the big question, but let's get this notion that the Saints are an indomitable force out of our minds. This Bills team is a challenge for them as well. We're a few days out, but for now, this has the makings of an excellent Week 3 game.
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well said
The Saints present a challenge, but the best thing we can do is what our defense has done for 2 straight weeks: TACKLE. Missing tackles kills you against the Saints. Jauron may feel out the Saints at first with our basic packages on defense. Those will require our LB’s and DB’s to tackle exceptionally well to limit 5-7 yard gains from turning into big YAC yards. That’s how I see this game. Unfortunately the other factor is how long our DEF is on the field. 35+ mins will lead to a dired DL, which leads to no pressure on Brees, which leads to him stepping up and gunning it to his skill position players, which leads to the Bills being dissected by the SURGEON that is Drew Brees.
It’s simple: No Turnover’s, limit 3 and outs by our Offense, tackle exceptionally well, and hope a few times that our DE’s can get to Mr. Brees and collapse the pocket. Do that, and couple it with rain/wind….it will be a fair playing field come Sunday at 4 pm
MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens
Keep Brees off the field as much as possible, and when he is on the field, force him into dumpoffs, then tackle the receivers before they get going. Be patient defensively, and hope Brees forces passes into coverage.
The Bills will need to play fundamentally sound, of course, but they also have to be opportunistic when the Saints make mistakes.
Get the Bills back to the big game!
I think this one's on the defense this week...
sure, the Bills have to play mistake free football, but if the defense can bend (we know Brees will put up yards) and allow a bunch of field goals, the offense will have a chance to win this game. If they give up touchdowns, we’re in trouble. Sounds simple, I know.
I just would encourage Trent to throw down field and not be afraid to make mistakes.
Momentum also plays a big role. If special teams can come up with anything this week, watch out. Brees on his own ten yard line doesn’t worry me as much as Brees on our thirty… obviously. Add in a couple bombs to Evans and Owens and we’re talking something along the lines of Indy v. Miami on Monday night.
Man I hope that the Ralph is loud on Sunday. I love watching opposing quarterbacks look over at the sideline and try to cover their ear holes because they can’t hear a play call.
I like the points you make, particular the overall one – that the Saints aren’t unbeatable by any means. We just need to do a lot of good things on defense and make sure we put a lot of points on the board, but if we do those two things and hopefully add a couple of great ST-plays (for example Roscoe and Leodis providing us with splendid field position), we’ll have a legitimate chance; of course that doesn’t mean we’ll win, but it means we stand a chance at winning in the fourth quarter, which is more than the Lions and Eagles managed.
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Sep 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
I like our chances….solid football is key, and if we succeed in that, then we’ll be in the game to the end.
Will there be a rght up on the Saints D? I’m sure there will be, but that is where I have the questions….is our offense better than Philly’s and if so, what can we do keep up with the Saints offense if it turns into a shoot out
Jauron’s nuts must have dropped this year….Go Bills!
run, run, and run some more
Even though Miami lost to Indy with the strategy of run, control the clock, and limit the opportunities of the other teams offense, that’s the exception, not the rule. It’s clear that NO’s defense is not great, given that the’ve allowed 27 to the lions and 22 to the eagles (with out McNabb). Therefore, slow down, run the clock by handing it off to Fred and pound the middle of the field. From the stat’s post a couple of days ago, buffalo is picking up over 6 yards per carry through the middle. Make them bring 8 in the box, and then exploit TO and Lee. Buffalo could sustain long scoring drives and put up a good amount of points against this defense.
The biggest items are going to be taking care of the football and not getting behind early. That’ll keep us in the game.
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
Exactly the point I was going to make, kudos.
Running the ball and keeping controll of the clock is well and good, as long as there are touchdowns at the end of the drive more often than feild goals. I do expect the bills/saints to be somewhat similar to the colts, just with a better result of course.
I’m not familiar with the saints defensive personnel(sp), besides Greer and Vilma really. Do they still have Mckenzie? They have forced turnovers, but I think part of that is their opponents being in must throw situations to keep up with the high octane offense of the saints. I do believe that if we mix up our playcalls, like AVP has done a tremendous job so far of, we have a shot at a great upset.
by dragonwag0n on Sep 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mike McKenzie was released before the season. Our starting corners are Greer—who has been great—and Tracy Porter—who is not shabby himself.
Our run defense is stout, too. Sedrick Ellis and Anthony Hargrove do an excellent job of clogging up the middle and leaving Vilma free make tackles. I doubt they’ll bring eight players up in the box to stop the run.
As a long-time Saints fan, I have to say that the big difference this year seems to be attitude. The entire team is just exuding confidence and focus. What wrecked our season last year—along with injuries—was an up-and-down focus from one week to another. It’s true that we WhoDats are confident to the point of arrogance right now…sorry for the unseemly display, but it’s been awhile since we could say our team was awesome, you know? Like…never.
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Greer has been great
I am not surprised. I was sorry to see him go.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
by Joe P. on Sep 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've always liked him
but he sure did get toasted on occasion, hopefully Evans/Owens will be able to get to him early and often
misleading
the 27 points to the lions is mis-leading they scored 7 on a kick off return a field goal when a return was fumbled and another 7 when brees threw an interception detroits offense only scored 10 points
Freddy must be big AGAIN.
If we can take time off the clock and not hand the ball over with fumbles and Int’s we should have a really good shot.
Trent has been accurate, this is what the dump-offs give us, throw in a few bombs at the right time like we did last week we will be ok.
It helps that we are home
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I agree. This game is just as much on Jackson’s shoulders than it is on the defense. The Bills have to get and maintain possession of the ball. The Patriots came back and the Bucs hung around because the Bills could not maintain possession. If Jackson can do to the Saints defense what he did to New England and Tampa (consistently rip off 5+ yard gains both running and receiving), the Bills should win the day.
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The biggest key to the game
IMO is Williams/Stroud. We need to blow up the pocket and prevent Brees from feeling comfortable stepping into his throws. That is something that both the Eagles & Lions have failed to do.
I agree with your opinions Brian, we need to play a clean game without errors because we cannot afford to give Brees a short field to work with.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Another point I forgot to make is that we should not change our approach, we go with a kick no-huddle, which is what has helped us, we need to stay in our comfort zone. Let’s not let them get us off our game plan.
A quick paced no huddle works for us. Take what they give us but let’s play our brand of football, minimize errors, keep pressure and blow up the middle with Stroud & Williams and make plays.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Well thats not likely to happen
How often do Stroud/Williams actually push the pocket? Maybe a few times a game, tops? If we’re relying on this to happen, we’re in trouble…
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Protect the deep middle of the field
If the Saints watch the tape of the Bills previous two games, they will see we’re soft in the medium and deep middle of our protection. Especially by the tight ends so Shockey will be licking his chops for his opportunity. I don’t know how we can stop it other than playing a nickle or dime man scheme and hope we cover well (but that would leave us open to the run). If we stick strictly with the Cover 2 they will find the pockets quickly and it’ll be a long day for us.
Exactly the point I was going to make
Even if we can match up with their WRs, Shockey will eat us alive. We have no answer for that. Pray for bad weather and a Saints team that might be looking past the Bills.
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Yeah, he sure looked like it last week when he torched Philly.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He has 8 catches for 80 yards on the season. He hasn’t exactly been dominant, either…
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
T.O. has 5 catches for 98 yards. Is he washed up? Dominance is the opposite of washed up.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You said he torched Phill last week… He had 4 for 49, not exactly torching anyone, IMO
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2 TD.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, against freakin' Detroit
Nothing against Philly
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how many TDs did we get vs Detroit????? Yeah, I know preseason....bla bla bla......
So do you think the talent level on our defense is more like Detroit’s or Philly’s?
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Oh. Why the eff did I think that his TDs came last week? I’m losing it.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Shockey isn’t washed up, he’s just inconsistent….what i mean to say is, he’s just drunker during some games than others.
by quantumuprising on Sep 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It explains why I get more done on some work days than others.
by quantumuprising on Sep 23, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not washed up
Its just he wasn’t good to start with!
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget about Bush
Bush will get a lot of receptions if we’re throwing short patterns in the middle and outside. I’m really looking forward to this game because it will show us how we do against another top-tier WR. We’ve given up one big play each to Megatron and Desean Jackson, but I’ll take that over how we’ve been lit up the past couple of seasons.
I don’t think you guys should buy too much into the putting pressure on Brees and getting him out of the pocket ensuring you of victory. If you look at the game tape from last week, he was out of the pocket a couple of times and made good plays. Not saying that you don’t want to pressure him, but just that he is still able to make plays outside of the pocket…especially with the weapons.
On our end, I’m most scared of Fred Jackson. I always wondered why he didn’t get more playing time during his career because he always seemed to be such a strong runner. Our rund defense is looking good so far, but then again we’ve been out in front most of the second half, too. Do yuo guys think he is your MVP for the first two weeks?
by BlackandGold4ever on Sep 24, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Do yuo guys think he is your MVP for the first two weeks?
I don’t even know who you could give it to other than him.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 24, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, our D has to make the best of what Bree’s gives them. No dropped INTs, recover fumbles. They need to take full advantage of any and all mistakes made, if any are made at all. One of the worst things that could happen is a dropped INT, and they score on the next play(s).
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
Man, …I really really hope there’s lousy weather on sunday. Go Bills!
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Sep 23, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
If the whole weather thing doesn’t work out, we could just contact whoever that was last year and have them fly some mylar balloons into some power lines again and delay the game until the weather obliges.
by quantumuprising on Sep 23, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Saints
The Saints have kinda of gotten lucky so far this season. Open up at home against Rookie QB Stafford and the 0-16 Lions. Catch Phili without McNabb, and then when the game is 17-13 at half have the Eagles fumble the 2nd half kickoff and then on the ensuing possession have Kolb throw a pick to which the Saints ran to a 31-13 lead.
BUT…we caught the Saints at a good time. Pierre Thomas has not carried the ball once this season, Bush is not 100%, and Bell is probably not going to play. AND…the Saints had to travel to Phili, then travel back to New Orleanes and now travel to Buffalo for the 2nd long trip in 2 weeks. As most of you recognize this is too our advantage. I am not saying we will win but I truly believe we will keep it close
VEGAS: I bet and therefore I am constantly analyzing the spreads. I like to find bets against the public and side with vegas. For ex. I took Buffalo +13 on Monday night but then bet TB +5 last week (so I am not a homer). This week the spread opened at 4.5 and moved within 24 hours to 6. That is a big jump and the single biggest move of the week from when the Vegas Hilton announces the spreads on Monday until yesterday evening. Everyone is one the Saints (and ESPN is feeding right into that). I have seen upwards of 75-80% of the money coming in on NO. This is great for the Bills and I for one will be laying +6. They say home field advantage is worth 3-3.5 points, yet week 1 the Saints were 14 point favs against the Lions which basically means if they were playing in Det the Saints would have been only 8 point favs. I don’t think so much has changed so far that would make the Bills +6 in Week 3 and the Lions +8 in Week one had the game been in Det. Vegas has some of the most knowledgable people about how teams matchup and their spreads say a lot when they are getting a ton of action in only one direction. Will the Bills win? Not sure, but odds are it will be a one score game…I’m betting on it.
I hate to be that guy...
but laying the points refers to picking with the spread on the favorite (NO at -6).
by quantumuprising on Sep 23, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotten lucky?
I don’t care what the circumstances are, 90+ points in two games is well earned. There’s no luck in that.
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, wouldn’t you call getting advantageous scheduling luck. Detroit at home to start the season with a Rookie QB and Phili in Week 2 without McNabb. I’m not saying the Saints aren’t impressive because they are, I am saying they have walked into (and taken advantage) of lucky circumstances to start the season.
If our CB’s are healthy (Florence, McKelvin and McGee) I feel we match up well against the Saints receivers and then it is a matter of if we can slow down Bush and Shockey.
I’m just saying putting up 90+ points is more than just having some lucky matchups. Philly has a very good secondary and Brees beat up on them. In fact, that secondary is better than ours.
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think Stafford or McNabb were playing defense, either.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no but a rookie Head coach with a new regime in Detroit and then a rookie Defensive coordinator can seriously affect the outcome
It’s like the Titans, they really miss Schwartz..
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 23, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure how you got that out of what he said…
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
To further emphasize my point I think the Phili game was an abberation of Brees. Brees is not the same QB when he is on the road not in a dome. In 2008, Brees played 8 road games, 6 outdoors and on the road, 2 in a dome (ATl & Det)
Brees #’s:
8 Home Games; 23 Tds: 5 Ints
2 Away Dome: 4 Tds: 3 Ints
6 Non-turf outdoor road games: 7 Tds, 9 Ints.
I will take the larger sample size of 2008 then the 1 game against Phili last week when looking into Brees.
Just a prediction but I expect Brees to go for 300 yards, 2 Tds and 1 Int. I don’t expect the Saints to reach 30 points and I expect the Bills offense to score just as many as the Lions did with Stafford or the Eagles did with Kolb. I will be more surprised if Brees throws 3 or more tds than I will if he throws 2 or less.
I predict a 27-24 Saints win, as Brees takes the team down the field in the last 2 minutes for another heart breaker.
I agree with everything you said
Except I wouldn’t be surprised if we pull out a win. I believe our offense to be quite superior to the two other teams and I seriously doubt that we will have as many turnovers, so the Saints will have to earn every point. And I think the X-Factor will be our no-huddle, the Saints Defense is not a well oiled machine and the fast tempo of our no-huddle will definitely advantage us.
I think it comes down to the wire but we pull out a win. Nelson & Evans will both have big games.
The Bills win it 30-28
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
We had this discussion with the Eagles fans last week
The difference this season is that our defense has new personell and a new mindset and Brees isn’t having to pass the whole game in come from behind mode. DE’s won’t be able to just pin their ears back and come after Brees all day because our defense can’t stop anybody. The key stat there is our turnover differential. Look at that number for us the past couple of seasons and look at this year. We didn’t even force 30 tunrovers last season and we have 7 already this year. I think this argument against Brees will start to lose its ground as the season progresses.
by BlackandGold4ever on Sep 24, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Something we haven't really hit on yet
Greer. He has to provide some bit of an edge to the Saints with his knowledge of and practice against Evans, etc.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 23, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
Can’t we say the same about Evans then?
I can’t wait to exploit Greer.
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We can, I just noticed my glass here was half empty when I posted.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 23, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What if Greer exploits Evans?????
Greer was just coming to his own when we let him go. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him earn a ProBowl birth this season.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
Offense has the advantage
Lee is fast, if it’s one on one coverage, Lee can beat him deep.
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
That is true of almost every WR vs CB match-up
But there is much more that goes into a completion vs and INT besides who is fastest.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
Come on, Joe. Greer wasn’t that good for us. He had a couple of pick-6’s for us last year, but still got muscled around.
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but still got muscled around.
That’s really the only knock on the guy. IMO he can run and cover anyone. But he’s just a touch too small – especially against big/physical receivers.
but I still like the guy
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Greer shut down TO on MNF?
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by Joe P. on Sep 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He played a heckuva game that night.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
f’in a right he did
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by J2 on Sep 23, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he will probably line up on TO anyways
Plus, evans would beat greer 1:1 anyday
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Its all about limiting and forcing mistakes, then taking advantage of them.
No more holding penalties to kill first downs, Bell.
No more dropped TD’s Evans and TO.
No more overthrows for INT’s.
No more redzone fumbles
Limit missed tackles
And so on…
We need to pick off Brees when given the chance. If he is able to sit back there and hit open receivers, we have no chance. The D needs to be aggressive and really get after him.
~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 1:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
AVP faces a real challenge this week. We’re not as familiar with NO as we were with NE. That being said, this game is a watermark for our season. Win and we establish ourselves as a force to be reckoned with. Are we going to be a challenger in the league? I’m getting psyched up just thinking about it. God I wish I could get to the game…
Did I hear correctly that matchups out of the division (moreso out of the conference) tend to be high-scoring affairs?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re not as familiar with NO as we were with NE.
I’d like an explanation on that, please. NE is running a pretty different scheme, and were we overly familiar with TB?
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m guessing he means personnel
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by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We were not familiar with Tampa, for the same reason we’re not with New Orleans. We’ve played New Orleans eight times in our history, where we play New England twice a year. While this only matters in recent history, it still means our coaches have a better idea, a more personal idea of how they play, and what their tendencies are. Plus, our players have faced these men in battle often before. It doesn’t mean we’re going to play New England harder (although it could), but it means they’re almost like a big brother. We physically know what tussling with our brother is like, we merely intellectually know this kid from the South.
OK The it is do or die time for the Defence
Ok if the bills Defence can some what hold the saints to under 30 points we have a chance but that is just what i am thinking. If we can get Drew Brees to his check downs most of the time in this game can have a shot. And if we can keep the deep ball covered i think we have a good shot. Now what i think we need to do is stop that running attack first. That would put pressure on Brees
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You say “OK” a lot. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
the saints use the passing game to set up the running game
they have for the last 3 years they come out passing till they back up the lb’s and then they start running
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