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Bills have contained high-profile offenses before

San Diego Chargers QB Philip Rivers hides his face after a 23-14 loss to the Buffalo Bills on October 19, 2008.  Photo courtesy NFL.com.

I've written "Drew Brees is coming to town" so often (and so ominously) over the past few days that I feel a little bit as if Brees will show up at Ralph Wilson Stadium on Sunday - when his New Orleans Saints take on our Buffalo Bills - donning hood and toting scythe rather than wearing Saints colors.  It's true - the Saints' offense, orchestrated by Brees, is excellent, and they present a tremendous challenge for Buffalo's No. 28-ranked defense this week.

Under Dick Jauron, Buffalo has played high-octane offenses at home early in the season before.  The most recent example came in Week 7 of 2008, when the 3-3 San Diego Chargers visited a 4-1 Bills team fresh off of its bye week.  Though they were struggling as a team at the time, the Chargers' offense had been dominant to that point in the season.  Buffalo handled them well in beating the Chargers 23-14 - a win that would be their last for quite some time.

Though the situations aren't precisely the same - this Saints team is a much more dangerous foe than that Chargers team - many of the principles the Bills game planned and employed in victory translate well to a potential victory over New Orleans as well.

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Comparing the situations
The 2008 Chargers, entering Week 7, were 3-3 - but their offense was outstanding.  The team was putting up 30 points per game.  QB Philip Rivers entered the game with a 109.4 quarterback rating, 1,439 yards, 14 TD and just 4 INT.  LaDainian Tomlinson and Darren Sproles were dangerous, as was Antonio Gates.  We fretted for an entire week prior to kickoff about whether or not Buffalo's banged-up secondary (Terrence McGee was inactive and Ashton Youboty did not play) could handle Rivers and the Chargers' passing attack.

Buffalo, at that point, was 4-1, coming off of a bye week preceded by an ugly 41-17 loss to Arizona, and QB Trent Edwards was fresh off of a lovely concussion.  Aaron Schobel was out.  The Bills entered the game with just three healthy corners - Jabari Greer, Leodis McKelvin (who had not yet made a start), and Reggie Corner (likewise).  The Bills, largely on the heels of playing some pretty terrible teams in their first five games, were surrendering 299 yards per game.  Hodgepodge secondary and missing their best pass rusher? Rivers was in for a field day!

Yeah, that didn't happen.  We'll get to why in a moment.  It's important to understand, however, that as it appears right now, this Saints offense is significantly better than that Chargers offense.  Their line is better, their quarterback is better, and they've got a wider variety of playmakers.  The opportunity still exists to contain this team well enough for a win, and to do so, much of what they did against San Diego will need to be replicated.

Key factors in holding SD in check
Limit possessions.  The Chargers had the ball only eight significant times in that game; a kneel-down to end the first half is being discounted.  The Bills forced three punts and three turnovers on those drives; on the other two, the Chargers scored touchdowns.  Right now, the Saints are averaging 12.5 possessions per game.  They'll struggle to drop their average of 46 points on us if they only have the ball eight times, won't they?

Control the ball.  Note that that doesn't say control the clock.  Just control the ball.  Buffalo had the ball for over 35 minutes in their win over San Diego, and they did it by running marginally well (the Bills couldn't run the ball to save their lives at the start of the '08 season) and, more importantly, throwing the ball effectively.  Edwards completed 20 of 25 passes and was efficient throughout.  The turnovers helped time of possession as well.

Get turnovers or get off the field.  San Diego's offense converted 7 of 11 third-down opportunities in that game.  How, then, did Buffalo control time of possession? Easy - they forced the Chargers to turn the ball over three times, and they made up for their rather average 6 of 13 mark on third-down conversions themselves by avoiding turnovers (and committing just five penalties).  You have to have one or the other - turnovers or solid numbers on third down.  If the Bills can't get Brees to make mistakes, they'd better not let him sustain drives on third downs.

We were aggressive.  Just as he did last week against Tampa Bay, Perry Fewell gave Rivers and Norv Turner a lot of different looks and plenty of blitzes.  Rivers ended up completing 22 of 29 passes for 208 yards, but particularly late in the game, pressure forced him into bad throws and turnovers.  More aggression is needed from Fewell's units, particularly in the secondary, if a similar outcome is to occur this weekend.

The usual caveats
Again - these Saints are better than those Chargers, both overall and in several very important areas, the biggest of those being quarterback.  The situations aren't exact, either - the Bills had more game tape and more knowledge of their own personnel heading into the game.

But I think it's fair to say that this Bills team is better than last year's version as well - we're still not sure how much better, but they're better.  The fact that the Bills of old were able to contain - quite well, actually - an excellent Chargers offense means nothing when guessing if they'll be able to do it again this weekend.  But it proves that sound, fundamental football can work.  The Bills were not overwhelming in that game, but they forced mistakes, capitalized on them, and didn't make mistakes themselves.

If you feel like I'm beating you over the head preaching fundamentals, it's because I am.  I apologize if you have a headache.  But creativity and luck, while helpful, won't allow the Bills to beat the Saints.  Tried-and-tested methods will.  Football is an incredibly complex sport, but emerging victorious is simple - if you follow the fundamentals.  Buffalo did against San Diego.  If they can replicate that this weekend, they'll have a chance to contain Brees and his offense enough to sneak out a win.

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with tackling being number one. I want to see this team give the same effort, and be consistent this season. After two solid outings to open the season, I want to see the rust be mostly gone, and let’s see this team grow and mature on both sides of the ball. I always believe in our defense to keep us in the game, but ultimately it will be up to our offensive playmakers to make the big plays to counterpunch the Saints. They do say the best defense for a great offense is a greater offense. I’m not insinuating let’s get in a shooting match, but I do think 27-31 points from our offense has to be expected not “hoped” for.

MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens

by MARVelous on Sep 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

tackling

amen. Even the commentators were praising the Bills on their open tackling last week against TB. The Saints will gain enough yards on their own so sure tackling is an absolute must.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Sep 24, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Defense off the field: run Owens

Only so much you can do with N.O. I’d like to see sustained drives. And in that connection, I’d like to see T.O. get a hefty number of running plays. Not just a couple trick plays, not just his 1 reverse a game. He’s as inept at ever at catching the ball, but once he has it the thing, he looks fast and strong, breaking tackles left and right. I’d like to see him get 6 carries a game. I’m also intrigued by Miami’s wildcat — but it’s probably not legal to have Owens moving like Ricky Williams was moving on Monday night?

Obviously, you don’t adopt a whole new offense in a week. But let’s get the running game going — using Owens can help.

by beelove on Sep 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

and when I say Let’s get the running game going, I’m not criticizing Jackson. But one good runner does not a running game make. Omon has only 17 yards in 2 games. Time of possession also indicates we haven’t had a grind it out drive yet — and we’re going to need a couple on Sunday. Hence, Owens . . . combined with Edwards (averaging ~10 yrds a carry on his 5 carries) and a few carries by poor Omon, we might have a ground game that goes beyond FJ.

by beelove on Sep 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But one good runner does not a running game make

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by J2 on Sep 24, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Owens is “as inept at ever at catching the ball..” ???

I respectfully disagree with this statement.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you feel like I’m beating you over the head preaching fundamentals, it’s because I am.

Haha, Love it

I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City

by Ghetts on Sep 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I suck at quote boxes!

I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City

by Ghetts on Sep 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suck at quote boxes!

Yes, you do! haha

Keys to success Sunday: score first, control clock (slow the NH & run the ball), blitz lots!

Why is it that all the South teams we play at home are in the beginning of the season, and all the games against the South teams on the road are in the end (colder part) of the season. I swear the NFL hates us, ie, NE has had a bye b/f playing us the past 17 years!

Who can make a play? I can make a play!
-T.O.

by Sluss88 on Sep 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What we need again is?

Ok we Ran the ball great that game vs San Diego i Rember that so i think if we can keep Brees off the field for a long period of time we have a great shot of winning this. The Defence has to play as good as they did vs San Diego last year. We just better hope that the power goes out again. Ok we need to Confuse Brees someway is there a way i don’t know cause i think he is the smartest QB in the league.

GO BUFFALO

by kooldude on Sep 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi Guys

Saints fan here. Thought I’d stop by and greet y’all.

As a Saints fan, I feel like Buffalo is the sort of team that for various reasons Saints fans have a kind of kinship with. Both of our teams have suffered more heartbreak than average, and both of our fan bases have had to deal with fears of our team potentially moving over the past several years (if there is one thing any sports fan can sympathize with, even with their worst enemies, is there is nothing worse than a team you have loved and followed for many years abandoning your city). Plus, we play each other only once every 4 years, so the animosity level is particularly low.

I watched the game you played against New England (see my “more heartbreak than average” comment above) as well as bits of the Tampa game (b/c they are one of our rivals, I thank you for that). You probably should be 2-0 right now and getting the same kind of buzz as the Saints.

I think this will be a good game. Your offense looks like it can put up some points and your defense has some pretty nice pieces as well. I’ve been stopping by here the past couple of days, and you seem like a smart, passionate, and respectful fanbase (particularly here on Buffalo Rumblings). Here’s hoping for a good game with no injuries, and that once it is over, we handle the rest of your rivals in the AFC East and you take out the teams challenging us in the NFC South.

by TheBobLoblawBlog on Sep 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I have family in NO, and as a Bills fan, I’ve heard plenty of heartache from them. Loyal fans constantly putting up with one thing after another. We’re not your typical “in the closet when losing” and bragging when winning fans (ie, yankee fans).

Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!

by fansince83 on Sep 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im sorry, I believe you meant red sox fans, as there were none in 2003.

by quantumuprising on Sep 24, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patriot fans?

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 24, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

we handle the rest of your rivals in the AFC East and you take out the teams challenging us in the NFC South.

Deal!!! And since you are 2-0 and we are 1-1 and at home, I am sure you won’t mind if we win this one :-)

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by Joe P. on Sep 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

We don’t have that much of a kinship

:-)

by TheBobLoblawBlog on Sep 23, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha I love seeing Rivers cry or act like a tool!!

I wouldn’t say that SD O was anywhere near this Saints O at this point.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I wouldn’t say that SD O was anywhere near this Saints O at this point.

I’d love to hear more on this. NO is clearly better than SD ‘08, but I don’t think the gap is as significant as you make it sound.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gut feel

I think this NO team can almost score at will. SD seems like a big yardage bunch.

The gap in scoring helps.

The gap isn’t as large as that statement appears, but I also don’t remember being as worried about that game as I am about stopping NO in this one. That is mostly due to Brees’ seeming ability to put up stats/points on anyone…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

OT Question

A few days ago there was something here about the strong possibility Roscoe Parrish would be traded within a few days – anything new on that or did I miss it?

by ccthemovieman on Sep 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

adam schefter

has tweeted that the chances of Parrish getting dealt are slim: He said:

Doesn’t sound to me like he’s being dea

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MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens

by MARVelous on Sep 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another key to the Bills winning...

….I am benching Drew Bress in the Rumblings Fantasty League this week. So…if I do this it won’t matter that the bills give up more than 300 yards per game in the air. Drew can’t play well if I have him on the bench…right?

by Buffalo Mo on Sep 23, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you playing me?

Please?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha

Yeah it could be lose/lose for my next week if he owns hard.

Honestly, I’m not too worried about Benching him. I have Eli and they are playing the Bucs next week. I should get some decent production out of him

by Buffalo Mo on Sep 23, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call Buffalo Mo! Another questinon:

Excellent point here Brian

We fretted for an entire week prior to kickoff about whether or not Buffalo’s banged-up secondary (Terrence McGee was inactive and Ashton Youboty did not play) could handle Rivers and the Chargers’ passing attack.

Because were in a similiar situation any word on what’s happening with McKelvin? Also will Drayton Florence be ready to come back this Sunday? Thirdly (I know who does a three part question? Four Part) If McKelvin is out and Florence isn’t ready to go do we see Corner again or does Youboty get the start? he might match up a little better size wise just my opinion.

One more thing any chance we could see Donte Whitner playing corner in this game and maybe see a little more Jarius Byrd at saftey? (five questions really? 6)

Any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated.

by MichiganBillsFan84 on Sep 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Both McKelvin and Florence practiced today. Whitner won’t play corner.

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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott

by Brian Galliford on Sep 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leo being out doesn’t concern me at all, defensively. In fact, it might not be such a terrible thing. I bet Brees tries to pick on him like crazy…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mike Bell

Has been a key component to the Saints fast offensive start—but he is nicked up and said to be “iffy” for Sunday. If he shows up in street clothes that would be a nice start to stopping them. He is a legit between the tackles force.

Geronimo

by Geronimo on Sep 23, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I forgot about that.

He didn’t practice today either. His tests came back “No structural damage.” Thats good long term news for the Saints but when I read that phrasing above I think he definately won’t be near 100%.

by Buffalo Mo on Sep 23, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

Pierre Thomas seems to be ready to go. He’s pretty darn good…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 23, 2009 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

His knee is all better?

by Buffalo Mo on Sep 23, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the saint's backs

thomas and hamilton will probability split time at half-back, but the full back evans is the one with 2 TDs already.

by r c a on Sep 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both Evan’s TD’s were receptions though. If all you have is a healthy Bush in the backfield I think the Bills might have an easier time protecting against the best

by Buffalo Mo on Sep 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hamilton is a load...

the saints played him alot in preseason,he had a 4.4 ypc, plus he was the leading receiver. he’s the biggest of the backs, if bell can’t go he will see alot of snaps.

by r c a on Sep 23, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year when we faced the Chargers we put Byran Scott on Gates all day long and he shut him down…I feel we should do the same this Sunday with Shockey. As for Colston, I feel Mcgee can handle him one on one. But for any of this to matter we need to get pressure on Brees….cough Maybin cough

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by howedyhowe on Sep 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Oddly enough, this is the first time Shockey has played the Bills – he was out with injuries in both 2003 and 2007 with the Giants.

by Krenn on Sep 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taking things into perspective

Week 1
The saints won against Detroit at home, giving up 27 points to a rookie QB (who has not looked that good at all) and let’s not forget the rookie Head Coach (who I think is going to be a very good Head Coach)

Week 2
Playing again against essentially a Rookie QB, they gave up 391 yards in the passing game. Let’s keep in mind that it was 17-13 at the half, not so dominant at all. Let’s breakdown the second half:
The second half kickoff, the Eagles fumble it and Brees get’s it on the Eagles 22y. Saints take advantage & score (TD)
Then on the first series after that, Kolb throws an INT on his 24y. Saints take advantage & score (TD)
Then Eagles score a big one
Then The Saints drive 70yards to settle for a field goal
The Saints get great field position once again (Their own 48y) – two great runs essentially result in a TD
Then another INT returned for TD

IMO, it’s more the Eagles that lost the game than the Saints that won it. You cannot commit so many errors and give them under 30y to work with and expect to win. I think the Saints are a beatable team.

I believe they will take our running game away like they took the Eagles ground assault away (Westbrook was limited to only 52y) and I think they will force us to beat them through the air. I think Lee is going to have a huge game as well as Nelson. If Trent can limit turnovers I think we can beat this team.

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Sep 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

saints D

the points in the lions game mostly came from special teams gaffs and a fumble return. the saints really shut down the running game,the loins got less than 2 yds per.

that’s gonna be the best thing about this game, the bills running game against the saints run D. with the bills O-line situation, it’s gonna be tuff.

by r c a on Sep 23, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hear ya

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Sep 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

perspective is good

thanks for breaking down the Eagles game…it makes the challenge seem more reasonable. Last year at 5-1, the Bills looked much better than they really were. Offensively, the Saints are excellent (perhaps the best in the league), but they’ve had their share of breaks and shouldn’t be declared “sultans of scoring” after just 2 games…one of them being against the Lions. Philly may well be this years’ Seahawks (playing without their franchise QB). Remember last year when the experts were classifying Buffalo’s season opener against Seattle as a quality win.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Sep 24, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is going to be a tough game for the Bills, I hope that all goes well. One thing that keeps popping into my mind all day is Marshawn Lynch will be back the following Sunday. I am really excited to see what our offense will look like with Lynch, and Freddy in the backfield, no rest for opposing defenses. If we can pull off this victory, considering we should have beat the Pats, and with all the momentum, and good morale going into week 4 with Lynch back, this team could be very scary, good scary that is.

by Hassanali181 on Sep 23, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Would have been fantastic to have had both Lynch & Jackson for this game.

If only wishes could become real =’(

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Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage

by TearsofaClown on Sep 23, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you really are a sad clown

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by billsoferie on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love that pic….

First – The Saints will score probably 35 points or more on us.
Second – Our offense can score that many
Third – Brees has been getting away with some poor choices in the first few weels, especially against Detroit. Some balls were close to being picked off. If we can make plays we have a shot. I don’t have a particularly good feeling about this game. I had a great feeling before MNF and last week. We’ll see how it translates.

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 24, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Road to the Playoffs!

1.) Win more than you lose against your division. ie 4-2 or 5-1.

2.) Win more than you lose against your conference.

3.) Win all of your games at home. Show some flippin pride. Support your fan base, protect your territory and let noone come into your house and rule.

I haven’t moved passed New England that much. We drop a home game and we violate two rules of a playoff team. That is the motivation these guys are bring into Sundays game. We allowed one to slip away, we will not allow a second one. This is our year.

Bills 33 – 30.

Excuses are a sign of weakness!!!!!!

by VanScottM on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Brian, one of your best articles, IMHO

The comparison is very relevant. Your analysis and conclusions are spot on. Limit opportunities, don’t make mistakes and execute the fundamentals. This match-up at home is winnable. I might be going out on a limb writing this, but this game—with the built in motivation playing a presumably superior opponent on your home turf—is well suited to a stoic coach like Jauron [excuse me, I think I just barfed on my keyboard like that toddler on the e-trade commercial!]

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Sep 24, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going to daydream a bit......

wouldn’t it be something if the Bills put a major league beat down on the NFL’s offensive darlings?? I just love the role of underdog at home and I sure hope our boys do as well!

It rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again

by Jax Bills Fan on Sep 24, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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