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The NFL is such a ridiculous phenomenon.  No other professional sport has one game a week, to allow fans, media and critics bash or praise each team based on one game.  Literally, week to week, if you were an outsider with no clue on how the NFL works, you would think people were completely 100% bipolar.  How else can you explain it?  The Bills leading up to week 1, were predicted to lose by 10-50 points to the Pats.  After week 1, some said what an effort, others destroyed McKelvin's property.  After week 2, some said look at what this offense can be, others said "eh it was the Bucs."  After week 3, we are back to how most felt after the pre-season, thinking Trent-ative is back, T.O. is about to go Chuck Norris on Edwards, and Dick Jauron has no clue on game-day management (see 4th and 1 in the 4th quarter).  

I'm here to tell you that perspective is a tool all people need to use.  Great leaders in business or sports know how to first identify the problem, find the best possible way to correct the errors, and if that doesn't work, have the BALLS or courage to CHANGE and try something else.  The best leaders call it knowing when to admit that your way is not the best way, and having the courage to change for the betterment of the T-E-A-M.  Dick Jauron has shown that.  He fired Turk Schonert, he cut Langston Walker, he traded Jason Peters, signed T.O., drafted Shawn Nelson, and most notably went to a complete no-huddle offense.  These are drastic changes that were made after 3 years of winning just .438% of there games.  

But now we are in full regular season mode.  While game planning and X's and O's are undoubtedly crucial to success, more so than anything is what you have don ein minicamps, OTA's, training camp and practice leading up to this point.  Week to week game plans change, but the fundamentals of football do not change. 

I go to one Bills game every year.  This was my 4th straight trip. I have never once met a casual friend or stranger that understands why I depart my hometown of Minneapolis every Fall to travel to Buffalo to see a Bills game.  I tell them it's because I love my team, I love the NFL, I love the city, and I feel a commonality with Bills fans that I can only get by attending the Ralph.  However, I have yet to see a Bills victory in my travels.  Not that I am here for sympathy, but my last two trips, (last year vs the NYJ, and this year vs NO) have been very troubling.  Both games Dick Jauron's teams have looked flat, prone to mental errors especially on offense, and have lacked discipline in the kicking game, and  in their offensive assignments.  Trent Edwards looked miserable on Sunday, but the real question is WHY?  The kid prepares like no other, has an unreal work ethic, wants to be the best, and does not get rattled.  But why then, can he not step up and play more consistently?

This team reflects its leader, Dick Jauron.  Players work hard, don't throw teammates under the bus in the media, are classy and full of character, and treat each other with respect.  That all stems from the HC.  Mike Lombardi said about the Bills the following: they are hard to play but not hard to beat. What does that mean?  Different interpretations can be made but I think it means their effort is always 100%, they don't beat themselves on defense, and they always come to play on gameday.  However, they don't challenge good opponents into the 4th quarter.  They don't put the pressure on the opposition.  Yesterday, the defense played with heart, and Chris Kelsay, IMO, had one of his best games as a Bill.  He was great in dissecting plays, read and reacting and making tackles when the opportunity presented itself (I had to throw that in there for K).  

If the Bills want to go from a 5-7 Win team (which they looked like on Sunday) to a 8-11 Win team (which Jauron needs to keep his job) they have to go from preparing to play, to preparing to Win.  I felt going into this season that Jauron was ready to make change because "it was necessary."  His job is on the line, he is desperate to win, to keep it, and to accomplish something no coach in Buffalo has done in 10 years....make the playoffs.  He did that in off-season personnel changes, and now he needs to do it in the way his teams play on Sundays.  The OL looked like a bunch of rookies on Sunday.  Trent Edwards looked like the check-down QB afraid to make a mistake, we saw last year in Cleveland.  Why does this persist?  Why is Captain Checkdown one of Trent's bipolar characters?  Maybe it's his genetic disposition.  Like when golfers are under pressure, they often have a swing that "comes out and rears its head."  It's the golfers who can go to a "get me over swing" in those situations or can thrive in those situations that separate Tiger from say your run of the mill tour pro.  

To sum up, we can argue why Trent goes to his conservative ways, or why the Bills struggled vs NO and may continue to struggle vs above-average teams this season.  But the bottom line is the proof is in the pudding so to speak.  Coach Jauron always prepares his team to play, but does he prepare them to win?  Mental mistakes, penalties (most penalized team in the league), lack of effort, are results of inconsistent mental performance.  This is troubling, yet also breeds optimism knowing these are correctable errors.  Perhaps the offense (AVP, Trent, EVERYONE) got complacent after beating Tampa Bay.  Perhaps they thought they were on the right track after success in NE and vs TB.  The weapons are available, and it's the job of Edwards to get them the ball.  From the stands it was clearly evident to see T.O. "doggin it" on plays where he felt he wasn't going to get the football.  You can see how this adversely affects Edwards.  Then when he needs a big play from T.O. should Trent have confidence in T.O. to be there, to run his route 100% when he has seen his body language go to sour grapes as the game wore on?  Frustration yields inconsistency in play and performance.  I saw it first hand on Sunday.  

Here's the Bills offensive possession results from Sunday:

1 - Punt

2- FG - Fake results in TD

3 - Punt

4 - Punt

5 - Punt

2nd Half

6 - Punt

7 - INT on throw to T.O.

8 - Punt 

9 - Punt

10 - Punt on 4th and 1 from own 28 with 7:30 left

11 - TO on downs

12 - Punt on 4th and 10 form own 20

Not exactly lighting up the scoreboard.  The Bills owned the ball for 26:26, were 2-14 on 3rd down, had 13 first downs, and completed just 20/35 passes (not including Moorman's) for an avg of 4.4 yds per attempt.  One stat Lombardi loves is passes completed plus rushing attempts.  NO was (16 completed + 38 rushing attempts = 54).  The Bills were (17 completed +  21 attempts for 38).  That is a huge disparity and tells the story.

I could go on and on, and this has turned into a mind dump here, but the bottom line is you expect to see progress with this offense, unfotunately on Sunday we saw regression.  Edwards and AVP never figured out how to beat the NO defense.  With a poor rushing attack, the Bills struggled, and it can be argued they didn't run it enough.  If this offense could somehow, eliminate mental errors, and build some confidence, I believe the potential is there.  With 5 games before the bye week of (@ MIA, vs CLE, @ NYJ, @ CAR, vs HOU) the Bills can pretty much determine if they will contend the 2nd half or be a non-factor.  You have to think a record of 4-4 at the Bye week is an absolute minimum to have any shot at the playoffs, and with a much tougher second half of the schedule, I don't see how they can be worst than 5-3 and have any shot.  It's often said that games in September are tough to decipher as teams build their foundations and get a feel for other teams schemes and effectiveness.  Well, September is over, the Bills went 1-2.  It's now time to shut up or put up.  It starts this Sunday in MIA, and if ever there was a time to Dick Jauron to summon that desperation to keep his job, to get his team to play with such conviction and emotion as they did in week 1 @ NE, that time is now.  Now is the time.  This is the week.  Let's see how it.  "When it's too tough for them it's just right for us" As Marv Levy used to say, well that couldn't be more true than this week against MIAMI.  I

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A lot of good thoughts – good perspective. Not mindless at all. rec’d.

We all knew going into the season that the O-Line, no-huddle, and AVP’s playcalling would be a work in progress, so the team should be able to improve on whatever they produce in the first half of the season. I agree 4-4 is possible so if the Bills improve on that, then maybe, just maybe….

by Zumone on Sep 29, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job.
Parcells was quoted once as saying go with the team that is most “desperate.” sitting at 0-3, and losing their leader in Pennington for the season – the Phins will be desperate. Bills better be able to match it.
They don’t hand out trophies in September or October, but I’d call this a gut check game.

by LeClaireBill on Sep 29, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Play ‘not to lose’ is the mentality we’re stuck with. You are dead on Marv that Jauron prepares this team to play, but not really to win. We don’t see the correct adjustments being made in-game to allow us to win games. All we get are excuses.


Mike Lombardi said about the Bills the following: they are hard to play but not hard to beat. What does that mean? Different interpretations can be made but I think it means their effort is always 100%, they don’t beat themselves on defense, and they always come to play on gameday. However, they don’t challenge good opponents into the 4th quarter. They don’t put the pressure on the opposition.

You are Lombardi nailed this. Playing hard only gets you so far. A team needs to be able to rise up and make plays, make adjustments on the fly and put the pressure on the opposition to beat them. The Bills don’t do any of that very well….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 29, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TMQ

I think Greg Easterbrook of TMQ said it best:

In other football news, perhaps Tuesday Morning Quarterback was premature in declaring last week that courage was breaking out across the NFL. Trailing New Orleans (which came into the game as the league’s highest-scoring team) 17-7 with 7:30 remaining, Buffalo faced fourth-and-inches on its own 29-yard line. That cannot be the punt unit coming on the field! TMQ wrote the words “game over” in his notebook, because with that little time left, you’ve got to retain possession or it’s over. More important, by launching a Preposterous Punt, clueless Dick “Cheerio, Chaps” Jauron was informing his team that he had quit on the game — so they might as well quit, too. With New Orleans ahead 20-7 and 2:25 remaining, the Bills faced fourth-and-23 on their own 14, and then “Cheerio, Chaps” went for it. So when courage might have saved the day, an NFL coach was hyper-conservative, desperate to avoid responsibility; when it made absolutely no difference what he did because the game was lost, the coach went for it. See other examples of NFL coaching timidity below.

John I.

by jri111 on Sep 29, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t spot that when I skimmed it for the Links post. Thanks.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Marv, although I agree with what you wrote, I don’t agree with the overall sentiment – We need a serious change/adjustment in attitude around here and it ain’t DJ that can do it. Actually his stoic demeanor and excuse filled responses don’t cut it anymore and I am starting to seriously think they might be part of the problem.

I have personally seen enough of what DJ can do and I am not impressed. His game management skills are probably in the bottom 2-3 of the league and like you said, he seems to not understand how to prepare his guys to win. We need to change the mindset on this team. We also need to assess if Trent can cut it or not before the next draft and DJ’s replacement should be the one to perform that evaluation.

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by keysh67 on Sep 29, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if you were an outsider with no clue on how the NFL works, you would think people were completely 100% bipolar.

I love the NFL and still feel that way.

penalties (most penalized team in the league)

The Bills have commited 60 more yards worth of penalties than any team in the league. It’s also the same coach and a lot of the same team that finished with the 2nd fewest yards lost to penalties last year, 8th fewest in 2007 and sixth fewest in 2006. So I’m not really sure what to make of that. It’s worth noting that a huge precentage of those penalties have been by the very young and inexperienced OL and on special teams.

I think I disagree with the general idea that Trent’s play is bipolar. The results look that way, but I’m starting to think it;s a bigger problem than Trent sometimes plays scared. My new opinion is that Edwards is willing to make the same throws every week, he’s just never been able to make a throw 15+ yards downfield unless he’s very confident in what the defense is doing and/or his WR has plenty of seperation. Trent seems to chew up bad defenses and goes into checkdown mode against good teams. I think the problem remains the same every week, it’s just that sometimes defenses are easy for Trent to read and teams have occasionally let Evans get wide open down the field. Has anyone ever seen a not terrible QB make so few throws to fairly covered WRs? He’ll squeeze a great throw into Josh Reed for an 8 yard gain, but you rarely see him hit Evans in stride 15 yards downfield or on comeback route that was thrown as he’s making his break. We havn’t seen Edwards split a CB and safety to find TO 20 yards down the field and it’s not often he hits a TE down the seam. I used to think that maybe the TEs weren’t athletic enough to take advantage of defenses on those seam routes or maybe Evans isn’t all that good when he can’t run straight for the first 15 yards of his route (which I still pretty much think) or that Josh Reed was doing what he does best and that’s not going down the field (also still believe that) and that was why Trent played the way he did. But with TO, it’s not an excuse anymore.

Granted, the OL stunk and I’m not ready to give up on Edwards yet. But wins and losses aren’t the way that I’ll be judging Edwards for the rest of this season. It’s can he hit guys who aren’t wide open for 15 yard gains. Will he make a deep throw other than a fly route or finding a TE get a soft spot in the zone 15-20 yards down the sideline.

And one last Edwards thought for his defenders, nobody has a problem with him checking down. I love that he checks down and I love that he gets the RBs and TEs involved. The problem isn’t the things that he does, it’s the things he hasn’t been able to do.

preparing to play, to preparing to Win

I guess I agree with that, but what’s the difference? Talk like this is alright, but it’s never somthing I can really wrap my mind around. What does a coach preparing a team to win do differently than Jauron?

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by kaisertown on Sep 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice observations/thoughts
It’s can he hit guys who aren’t wide open for 15 yard gains. Will he make a deep throw other than a fly route or finding a TE get a soft spot in the zone 15-20 yards down the sideline.

Most definitely. It’ll be a start for him to start trying.

I just find it extremely difficult to believe the defenses constantly shut down the intermediate game against the Bills. We have better receiving talent than most teams, but most teams are also able to complete passes in the 10-20 yard range more than once or twice a game. Edwards is just so hesitant and probably afraid to make a mistake that he doesn’t even try some of these passes that your average NFL QB does. I, too, would love to see him anticipate a 15 yard comeback route, maybe a quick fade down the sideline, a deep cross or gasp(!) a post pattern down the middle. I can’t imagine a guy like Evans, with his speed and deep ball ability, not being able to consistently hit on the 12-15 yard out.

~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would love to see him anticipate a 15 yard comeback route

I think anticipation is his biggest weakness right now – like you say K..are you kidding me that he can’t hit Lee on a 12-15 yd out with his speed being feared? Jimminey Crickets Trent – do your f’in job

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by J2 on Sep 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had similar problems in camp. He won’t throw a ball before a guy comes open. If he has a step he will make the throw. The guy doesn’t need to be wicked open.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good points about Edwards
Granted, the OL stunk and I’m not ready to give up on Edwards yet. But wins and losses aren’t the way that I’ll be judging Edwards for the rest of this season. It’s can he hit guys who aren’t wide open for 15 yard gains. Will he make a deep throw other than a fly route or finding a TE get a soft spot in the zone 15-20 yards down the sideline.

I think this pretty much sums it up well. Edwards needs to be able to throw to his receivers and not just on “go” routes. If he can’t his T.O. or Evans 10-15 yards downfield, he will never more more than a mediocre QB.

John I.

by jri111 on Sep 29, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am finding it hard to post or read much this week

but this reflects best how I feel. HOW and WHY is some of this crap happening.
Even the worst teams can fling the ball around a little, and our defense looked awesome for the three quarters they had the gas for. By the late 3rd early 4th it was too late, and we just collapsed in all phases.

We have got to get after it and it does start this week. I guess it was naive to think that the AVP+Trent experiment was going to be all good, and perhaps this is just what this team needed. I have high hopes for next Sunday, but if the offense doesn’t respond, the only thing that is doing well, our defense, will start giving up too.

Jauron’s nuts must have dropped this year….Go Bills!

by killascript on Sep 29, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

12% approval rating, and plummeting!

I’ve said it all along, Jauron does NOT prepare or coach these guys to win football games! He merely congratulates their hardwork and then scratches his head and makes excuses when they lose a game that was “in the bag.” (MNF last 3 years, Jets game ’08, etc.)

The main difference with the Bills and other teams is coaching. Belichik knows how to play situational football, while good ol’ Dick scratches his head again and takes the wrong approach, every time. He is conservative at the wrong times, (see last Sunday 4th & 1, running the ball b/f missed FG against CLE in ’08, etc.) and is not conservative when he should be (see Leo fumble against NE, Losman fumble in ’08) THESE GAMES WERE LOST BY JAURON!

Yes, Checkwards, the Rookie OL, and the 4th qtr. “D” contributed to the loss against NO, but Jauron ultimately does not know how to play situational football, and that folks is the bottome line! And guess what, it’s not going to get better with him in charge. As Bill Simmons (loathe the guy BTW) wrote this morning, coaches just fade away after they hit age 55. Dick will be 59 on Wednesday!

Thanks for providing my new signature Marv.

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by Sluss88 on Sep 30, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What cracks me up is that a week ago, he was at 62%, and last season early, he was in the high 90s. These approval ratings are nothing more or less than an indication of fan sentiment about the team.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aren't all polls ??????

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they are

Look at the Vick situation. I live in PA and when Vick signed with Philly, Philthy fans wanted his head, stating how horrible of a human being he was, (yes, people from Phillly were even judging his character). Some even swore they would become Giants fans!

Then Reid started talking Wildcat and all the possibilities, and they all jumped on the wagon with him, buying up Vick’s jersey like it was gold. Vick’s approval rating went from 12% to 90% in like two days.

Bottom line, fans are always going to vote based upon what the guy brings to your team, which unfortunately for us, is a lot of letdowns!

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
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by Sluss88 on Sep 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are only a handful of 55 year old coaches in the league, so I guess they do fade away as the young (cheap) coordinators get the new jobs. But the list of 55 year old coaches isn’t a bad one to be on:

63 – Tom Coughlin
62 – Wade Phillips
57 – Bill Belichick
57 – Norv Turner
56 – Jim Zorn

John Fox is 54 and about half of the rest of the league is in the 50-53 range. I doubt that Jauron’s age (he’s only 18 months older than Belicheat) has anything to do with how mediocre he is as a coach.

Coaching has been a huge factor in plenty of losses in Buffalo over the last few seasons, but that week one NE loss wasn’t Jauron’s fault. Let’s forget the debate about whether it was smarter to return the ball or take a knee (I’ll vote return it, by the way) because McKelvin didn’t know if he caught the ball in the end zone or at the one or two yard line. He said that after the game and he had no choice other than return it. I think blaming the Cleveland game on Jauron is a total stretch too.

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by kaisertown on Sep 30, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Zorn is only a year younger than Leatherface Turner? Jeeeeezus.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 1, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle vs. Dallas Think about it….

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

errrr, what?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 3, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turner was always outside in Dallas, hanging outside on the patio. Now he’s in San Diego where the weather is sunny and perfect and he goes and sits on his boat drinking mai-tais.

Zorn was in Seattle drinking coffee under a rain-soaked umbrella.

No wonder Turner looks worse than Zorn.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how you blame fumbles on a coach as if he was the one who dropped the damn ball.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“From the stands it was clearly evident to see T.O. “doggin it” on plays where he felt he wasn’t going to get the football. You can see how this adversely affects Edwards. Then when he needs a big play from T.O. should Trent have confidence in T.O. to be there, to run his route 100% when he has seen his body language go to sour grapes as the game wore on? "

OK, so TO wasn’t putting 100% every play. Still, that’s a little too apologist to say that TO is adversely affecting Edwards. Only Trent can send the ball down the field. If he does, and TO is not there, that’s on TO. Trent can target 1A then, who, if we think back a few years, JP, despite all his weaknesses, somehow made a star.

I’ve never been an Edwards fan. There are times when I think, “alright, he will do.” I’m not going to dump on this guy because he’s what we’ve got. I root for him to take some risks, but unless he starts taking shots at the two gifted athletes the team has going down field, I’m not going to sympathize.

by oompaloompa on Sep 30, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jauron looks like he's in the Matrix with those sunglasses on.

Let’s hope it’s only a reality in looks and that he truly isn’t living in an alternate world. Sometimes I do get the feeling he’s not with us.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 30, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW, you too can wear that ol' man hoodie Dick sports every Sunday for $68 on the Bills website!

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by Sluss88 on Sep 30, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand your frustaions with last sunday's offensive output.

And it should rest squarely on the shoulders of AVP.

After two weeks of solid playcalling, he went into Turk mode.

Alex still needs to learn a few things.

Play action is your friend, unless EVERY time you use it is a play action bootleg to the right.

Make the defense play the run in 3rd and 5 or less by NOT setting up in the shotgun.

Using a WR as a safety valve on crossing routes and sending your RB and TE deep works on pass plays. Especially when you always use your TE and RBs as safety valves.

Look how well it worked for the Pats when we played them, Moss picked up most of his yards against us on shallow crossing routes as a saftey valve.

TO also picked up alot of yards like this in Dallas.

Why don’t we do this?

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 1, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You make excellent points BK

Especially when the CB are playing soft and giving a 12y cushion, crossing routes underneath is the best way to beat them.
I really agree with the 3&5 shotgun comment, I hate the shotgun from that situation because you are making life so much easier for the defense. The shotgun can be OK when you have an amazing QB like Warner, Brady or Manning that can pick you apart – we have captain checkdown! Quick memo to AVP, your QB doesn’t scare anyone and you need some deception in order to help him out more..

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by keysh67 on Oct 1, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Using a WR as a safety valve on crossing routes and sending your RB and TE deep works on pass plays. Especially when you always use your TE and RBs as safety valves.

I like that. Who says we can’t send Freddie up the sideline out of the backfield? Like we did in that Denver game last season….

That’s part of the being a bit too predictable thing….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 1, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man that was a beautiful play

Freddy is one hell of an athlete and he can really catch!

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
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by keysh67 on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This week we are going to see him split wide. I can feel it. Lynch will be in the backfield and Jackson will be split out, then next to Lynch behind Trent, then split out. It’ll be sick.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's already been split out wide at times

Not exactly going to be surprising when he does this weekend. It’ll be nice having Lynch in the backfield at the time, instead of an empty backfield around Edwards.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 3, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I meant. Thanks for the clarification.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mostly agree. The only things I’d point out are:

I don’t have any problem with this team going shotgun on 3rd and 5. And I know you’re talking about the threat of running more than actually running, but I’d have more faith picking up a first down on 3rd and 5 with a draw from the gun than a running play out of a different formation. If you changed it to no more (or at least almost never) shotgun on 3rd and 3 or less, then I’d agree.

It would be nice to see the occasional sideline route from an RB, but it is a very slow developing play. It takes time to get out of the backfield and to the sideline and a guy like Jackson isn’t super fast. If the OL is struggling, then it’s going to be tough for Edwards to wait for that route to develop and they could probably use the RB to chip somebody more often than not.

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by kaisertown on Oct 2, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the OT’s we are likely to be starting this week, the shotgun will definitely be necessary….

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by Kurupt on Oct 2, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make some good counter points, let me clarify.

I think play action to pick up a 3rd and 5, is better than the shotgun draw, especially if you picked up 5 yards on the ground on 2nd and 10.

Yes, the sideline route from a rb is a slow developing play from a one back set, it hits quicker out of the split I.

From a 1 back set, the RB deep route should go deep down one of the slots.

If the OL is struggling, draws at where the pressure is coming from will usually slow it down if it is coming from the edge. Catch them upfield and run behind them with an easy kickout block. Jason Garrett finally figured it out, the usefulness of the draw against Carolina this past week to negate pressure frome the edge. Hopefully AVP will figure it out this week.

On 3rd and 3 or less the shotgun is unforgiveable. But I have seen the Bills use it in 3rd and 3 or less WITH AN EMPTY BACKFIELD, plenty of times under Fairchild and Schonert, as well as Gilbride, makes me want to hit something everytime I see it. At least AVP hasn’t used the empty backfield on 3rd and 5 or less I can recall, I give him credit for that.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 2, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bottom Line

Edwards need to put his foot down — believe in his abilities and more importantly believe in TO’s and Evans’ abilities to pull down the balls thrown near their way.

Jauron showed he was willing to take on some chances with some of the personnel on this team. Now Edwards will have to do the same with his passing game, and especially when the team is trailing in points! I can understand you don’t want to beat yourself when you have the lead, but when the team is trailing and had no offense TDs or FGs in the first half, then Edwards will need to do something about it. Like K said in another post, there is not much difference between an INT and a Punt — we need the points! There is absolutely no reason why the Bills shouldn’t go for it. And if Jauron wants to keep his job, then he better hit this “go for it” message to AVP and Edwards FAST. Losing by 1 point every game and missing the playoffs will not keep Jauron’s job; we might as well lose by 20points in 1 game and yet win most of the others games.

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by moncheri on Oct 1, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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