Bills vs Lions: Pre-Season Open Game Thread
by Brian Galliford on Sep 3, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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Buffalo Bills (1-3) vs Detroit Lions (2-1)
6:30 PM, Ralph Wilson Stadium
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It's nearly over, Bills fans. The Buffalo Bills will take the field in just over a half-hour's time to finally, mercifully, bring this lengthy pre-season to an end.
This is your open thread to discuss the game. I won't be present, as I'll be taking the game in at The Ralph in person. (If you're at the game reading this and see a young guy in a throwback Fred Jackson jersey, it might be me.) Please respect our new rule of not posting links to this particular game streaming online; otherwise, have fun, keep it clean, and go Bills. After tonight, the games count!
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First time
Being first. looking forward to seeing how the O line holds up
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
Just a question...
Is it because they are the only starters or would you have been watching them regardless?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No I actually want to see them working as a unit, and would have been watching them closely regardless. Detroit’s defense should be a little easier than GB’s last week to handle. I’m looking forward to see who in the 2nd units impress me as well, I’ve gotten a lot of informed opinions from the site but nothing beats hands on scouting.
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
PFT...
….says Jackson will play.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
Actually it says he wants to play…. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, my bad.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
Whew
I was afraid they’d ask Brian to play in his place!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily, I look exactly like him. I’m going for the century mark tonight. Gotta get off the cell now though. Don’t want to get fined.
Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott
by Brian Galliford on Sep 3, 2009 6:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I knew we all wanted to see the starters in there, but Stafford will be starting for the Lions so it is a ‘decent’ test for our D-line. Especially to see how Maybin looks at attacking him – could be similair to how he does against Sanchez…
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Knowing our luck, Fitzy will go out and look like the second coming of Jim Kelly—leading the offense to 5 consecutive TDs….thus starting a QB controversy.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
That was definately a concern of mine coming in, getting back to Flutie/Johnson days
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
There should never have been a controversy. Flutie was the guy.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight’s Bills captains for the game against the Lions – 14-Ryan Fitzpatrick, 27-Reggie Corner and 69-Garrison Sanborn.
via Chris Jenkins
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My first game thread of the year, what a let down!!! I might not even get to see the game if I can’t get it on my computer.
Stay healthy….everyone.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
There should be some online options if you’re puter is up and running. While not posting any of the links I went to a search engine and punched in Buffalo Bills Detroit Lions and a couple of links for the game appeared.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
If you get one that works, email it to me
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Sorry, I can’t. I’m at work (eating dinner) and can’t pull up videos on the work computer. They are there, though so I hope I can find a replay when I get home in 3ish or so hours.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
A throwback Fred Jackson jersey? I don’t think you’ll be seeing too many of those out there….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I saw a good bunch at training camp.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian said not to post them
I found a couple on a common search engine just by typing in both franchise names.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
I’m getting only audio on one.
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
That’s all I could find too
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
What’s the reasoning behind not posting the links? What violation is it part of?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Brian made it a rule here, so that’s that. But I have no idea why preseason games are not only blacked out, but not allowed to be shown on the internet. It’s not like people are paying big bucks to Directv to see preseason games, although these games should be provided to those who buy the Ticket….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I watched last weeks game on the internet off a pittsburg feed, so i guess its not online cause no one in buffalo is bothering, or cause they are playing detroit and no one cares.
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
The Buffalo feed is being recorded to reair later this week.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It violates NFL blackout policy.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
By whom?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s inexcusable on the part of Dick Jauron that the Bills’ starting offense skill players aren’t going to play. Belichick must be laughing
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Is that our Johnson or theirs?
(443): My mom came into my room and told me to flip off the tv. I gave it the middle finger. Note to self: STOP SMOKING THIS S#!T
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Thanks, got no feed or tv on this, soooooo need heads up on this
I do get the College games, so at least its something.
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Normally hate posting pics but...
Brian says it’s dead there on twitter.
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Chris Brown says Jackson won’t play at all.
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I think all the guys on the field play with those.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Its their first string against our 2nd
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
TD Calvin Johnson
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
OH, brought back by holding!
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
T.O. is dressed, whatever that ultimately means as far as playing time we shall see.
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FF caused by Maybin, recoverd by Copeland
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Awesome.
That will make a lot of people happy.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Is anybody WATCHING this game?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
nope
I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
by J2 on Sep 3, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
don't know
i am forced to watch NFL.COM and see a line across the screen, but it is surprisingly compelling
The Bills CAN win any game
Well, I’ll enjoy this one, but I really hope that this season is not just beating up on really poor teams and getting squashed by decent-to-good teams.
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
Isn’t that what we should expect every year?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
OUCH!
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
Again, this is where my biggest concerns are based.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
MAHEM! MAHEM!
Please, please…….. OBD…. let Maybin play 50 percent of the snaps!!!
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 3, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve never really heard Murph before. I miss Van Miller.
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
Yeah but that’s an unfair comparison for Murhpy…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Who’s the other dude? Mark Kelso maybe?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Kelso is correct.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think John Murphy is anti-climatic. He doesn’t seem to get as excited about things like Van did. Van was really rough at the end though, with the forgetting players names and all.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is what has puzzled me too, hearing the highlights. It’s like when a big play happens, his response is almost an afterthought, like a TV announcer. Radio is so much different.
Man, I miss the old Sabres broadcasts with Ted Darling and Rick Jeanneret.
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
Schouman a catch for a first down, what what
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Stevie Johnson lets one hit him in the chest and fall to the ground….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I'm watching
I live 1 hr. from Detroit…this is one of the few games I get to see…….and the starters aren’t even playing
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody else can see the game. Hold nothing back LOL!
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
screen
I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
by J2 on Sep 3, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
not helping his cause
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I still have no clue how Schouman starts in this league…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Schouman catch, then fumble, stripped by Jordan Dizon, recovered by Lions just shy of midfield. Lions ball.
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Cut him now..................
"A failure becomes just one time at bat if you refuse to let it defeat you." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 3, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
BloRumblings Love watching kugler coach. Really laying into his starters right now. He is angrified
Brian’s twitter keeps getting funny…
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He might get animated, but how about he get these guys to start playing better?!?!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He could probably yell loud enough to be heard. There were more people at camp practices than the game tonight! LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Schoeman
He was holding the ball carelessly
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
heres hoping!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the vote…. I dunno if it will be easy but if he averages a sack a game like he has in the preseason he gets my vote.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
DID NOT SEE THIS COMING...
What are the chance that Copeland Bryan makes the rostor over Ryan Denney?
Chris Brown: Think that possibility exists.
Chris Brown’s live game chat…..
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interesting
why denney and not kelsay? can he answer that?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelsay is the starter. There is no wayhe gets cut.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
thats unfortunate
didnt denney do better than kelsay last year?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
In sacks, yes.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think that’s really out of left field in any way.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not out of left field...
just the first time I saw he suggested it.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Brown doesn’t really suggest many personnel moves….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I know. He usually stays mum. Another reason I was surprised.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Either our backup defense is doing pretty well or the Lions first string offense is really bad.
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
little bit of both?
that first drive they were killing us tho.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
More from Brown...
Don’t think Drayton Florence (knee) will be ready for the opener.
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He got two years first…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no
he got 10 games, and then jail, so totally he got 13 games
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget the 16 he missed in prison.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no by the decision of the nfl though.....
so i dont count it
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Look, let’s not get too involved. I am just letting you know that Goodell took the jail sentence into account when he imposed his discipline.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
stadium looks to be less than half full.
More Sal M
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I can’t believe anyone commnented on how good John Murphy is. His voice is so unique. After listening to van all these years and rick for the sabes it’s a shame we have to listen to this slob!
You should listen to other NFL radio play by play guys – Murphy is really good.
Be glad we got the chance to listen to guys like Van and Rick. Don’t forget Darling either…
Just got back to the game thread. I mentioned this up higher. Man, those Sabres games with Darling and Jeanneret were incredible. Do you remember how they used to make up names and hometowns for people who caught the pucks in the seats?
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
Illegal contact on Detroit TWICE on one play…haha
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
and an offsides
damn DET is bad
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Bart Scott and an Eagles lineman just got into a mini brawl haha
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Rex Ryan loves it...
That guy!!!!!!
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Bills in the red zone… let’s see what happens.
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FG is my guess
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
why not go for it?
not like it counts!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitzpatrick
Just threw a couple poor passes
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks for telling us it was on him.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Half the game according to the Bills blogger.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This is ridiculous. You have got to be kidding.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
why kick it there?
why not get some more red zone work in?? doesnt make sense!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not? One more play i nthe red zone gonna make or break the preseason?
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
because im guessing
that lindell doesnt need the work, but the redzone offense does….so…..yeah…
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently he does need the work
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yea
i realize i say that right when he misses. but his track record indicates that he doesnt.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
O-line vets Walker, Hangartner, Butler now out. Rookies Wood and Levitre still playing, as are Reed, Parrish, Fitzpatrick and Schouman
More from Sal.
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Stupar drops possible TD pass, then Fitzpatrick makes lousy throw intended for Parrish on third down. Lindell then misses 33-yard field goal
SAl
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Brian. Best. Line. Ever.
Apparently were saving our points for MNF. Good strategy
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Mancrush alert!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Clearly...
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Brown responded to my Schouman question…
Why is Schouman THE starting TE? Do you think without Fine’s injury he would still be THE starter?
Most experienced at the position, has best passing game chemistry with Trent and can be an every down guy blocking wise.
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im kinda bored with this game
and the redsox are playing a meaningful game, so i think im out. plus my guy corner already did something good today, along with maybin.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
Chris Ellis
caught Stafford from behind pretty well on that play
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
Fitz misses Stupar again…
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salmaioranaBills have 4th-and-1 at Lions 46. Jauron punting again and fans are booing. Here’s my thought: Punts should be disallowed in preseason
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 3, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
More from Brown...
thinks Ellis has earned a spot on the roster.
Sees Stevie as a jack of all trades WR this year – slot, outside, etc.
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Nice… go fans!
Bills have 4th-and-1 at Lions 46. Jauron punting again and fans are booing. Here’s my thought: Punts should be disallowed in preseason
sal maiorana
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Yup Stafford done for the day.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. Even tonight Schwartz said Stafford would “begin” the game. He didn’t even say start.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If Jauron pulled that same stunt people would kill him around here.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They say it’s still an open competition
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions
3rd and long… go get em Maybin.
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HAHAHA. No sooner do I say it than he gets offsides called on him…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Lions punter is Nick Harris. Bills LB is Nic Harris. Did a double take…
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http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009090350/2009/PRE4/lions@bills
The new game center Side View is amazing. It showed the 8 yards pass to Stupar plus the two yards he ran with it after. It’s a very good update.
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Yup. Take chances that’s what gonna happen.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Some clowns have asked Brown if there is a QB controversy…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow- Mark Sanchez
Mark Sanchez 1st drive today: 5 for 5, 67 yards, td, 2-3 VERY nice downfield throws. Kid just looked like a star on that drive. (granted, preseason vs Philly 2nd team)
I’m trying to be supportive of Trent, but after seeing Sanchez literally “wow” me, I’m not sure I see that in Edwards too much. Damn
Nic Harris has been a tackling machine tonight. Buggs too. Guess releasing Thomas wasn’t a hard decision to make.
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Brian replied...
neither have looked as good as Palmer
High praise. Guess Brian may amend his roster projection…. or not.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ellis just had a real nice spin move for a near sack.
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Maybin with more pressure too. Maybe the DEs will be ok.
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NFL.com just changed it to Ellis with a push by McCargo.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
DE fight...
Think the safe guys are Schobel, Maybin, Kelsay, Ellis. Believe it could be down to Denney and Bryan to see who is the 5th. See them keeping 5.
Chris Brown
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Teams who sat their starting QB tonight: New England, Indy, Baltimore, Philly, Cincy (injury), Buffalo
Teams that started their starting QB: Detroit, NYJ, NYG, Washington, Atlanta, Jacksonville
Hmmmmm….Looks like the teams that have young QB’s (outside of Burt Flacco) or those that need to rebound from last year played their guy…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Culpepper may have started tonight. Ya never know.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
To your point...
Maurice Jones-Drew has leg contusion. Return questionable.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Lions tv announcers are homers
They were impressed with the Lions first string offense…um…I didn’t see any starters on the Bills defense tonight
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
g-men crushing the pats
who cares if its preseason, i love it : )
SAL
For those of you scoring at home, that’s six straight quarters of being shutout for the Bills offense. Bring on the Patriots!
Only 2 of those quarters mean anything though, but those were a pair of brutal quarters…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
And we’re off. Anyone lagging and feel the need for a second thread?
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Is anybody even on here still?
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That’s why he’s here folks. Atta boy Jarius.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a tipped pass though! But still a nice start to hopefully a productive rookie year…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Brown sees him doing “centerfield” a lot of the time.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hamdan in….
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Hey guys, just got here, is anyone actually watching the game?
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
michiganbillsfan is.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So corner leading for the preseason in INTs?
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Yup.
And Maybin has to be up there in sacks now. 3 in 3 games.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait,...
two in two games.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it against starters?
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
The Pitt one was. Not sure about tonight’s.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I knew that much. Was hoping tonight’s was also against a starter.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Even if they were starters, they were Lions starters!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Net 41 yards on that Moorman punt. From his end zone no less.
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This game is boring. Lions 3 and out. Bills ball.
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
Brandon Rodd is hurt!!!!!!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Does anyone care?
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Pete Prisco...
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. Another long pass. Should we start Hamdan?
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Does anyone else prefer Johnson to Parrish?
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
I think the more appropriate question is: does anyone prefer Parish to Johnson?
I think not.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
I think everyone likes Johnson over Parrish
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Thankfully, Parrish’s last name isn’t something dirty….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Now that I reread what I wrote, that does sound a bit....
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Everyone should prefer Johnson to Parrish. He’s actually a receiver even though Parrish believes that he is…
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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 3, 2009 8:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just to start discussion
Has anyone’s performance tonight changed their job security or lack thereof in anyone’s opinion? Do we have a better idea of who’s bubbles burst?
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
Not having seen the game, I don’t think so. Nobody really stepping up that was in danger of being cut. Maybe Bryan.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is schouman less of a lock to be TE starter?
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
Chris Brown said emphatically that Schouman is the starter.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What about
Walkers poor play, any more thoughts of Bell replacing him? Or Bills outright releasing him? Guess we don’t have to worry about a QB controversy, they are all equally productive.
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
With his back injury, Walker will likely start opener.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because Walker shouldn’t be playing LT doesn’t mean he should be cut. He belongs on the right side, it’s too bad the coaches are trying to avoid disaster with him on the left…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Do you then move butler inside and take Levtrie out?
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
Chris Brown
That’s getting ahead of yourself. Let one domino fall first…
He was willing to say that if Bell replaced Walker than Walker going to RT was a possibility. Who that leaves out I don’t know. Walker could end up on the bench, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say Butler has been playing pretty well at RT so far, so I think if that were to happen Walker might just end up on the bench
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The people calling into WGR today disagreed with you. They thought Butler stunk. But then again they are calling into a radio show to complain…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Nic Harris was third in the league in preseason tackles. I expect him to be higher tonight. He has had five games after all.
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Wow.
Good for him.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t hurt when your D is on the field as much as ours has.
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
From Brian...
Stadium playing bird is the word after the Byrd pick. Absolutely awesome.
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A fake punt during the 3rd quarter of the 4th pre-season game? Tha’s pretty stupid!
by michiganbillsfan on Sep 3, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
Almost as stupid as a fake punt in the first preseason game.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Already Detroit has held the ball for almost 30min…
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Hamdan – 3/10 for 104 yards… nice state line I guess.
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yo yo yo
hello all just got on, have been listening on the radio.
Who blew it on the long Lions run?
"I wish we could convince our opponents to play their 2nd and 3rd stringers against ours for the whole game – when it counts." - TEMSON
Chris Brown says...
Davis just got to the outside and there was lots of real estate.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Reed’s chemistry with Trent is solid.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
chemistry dosen't hold onto the ball.
i hated on reed for years and ate my words last year when he stepped up. i just hope he’s a gamer when we need him to be. i do like our options for 4 wide as long as one of our backs (and line) can pick up the blitz.
Hang has graded out well in Ron’s posts.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Two minute warning. Thisclose to the regular season guys.
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First catch for Tevree.
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T. Devree
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm…. these are the Bills backups too….
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian will have a recap up in about an hour.
Check back in the morning for the Links post by yours truly and more analysis from Brian.
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Also the roster cut downs will happen in the next day or so. Keep it locked here for breaking news.
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hang has graded out well but it still worries me about the massive 3 tackles in the division.
Pluss though the announcers like to blame the quarterback offsides on your center twice in two weeks is bad. double clutching is bad.
bring on the season!!! go bills
He handled the Steelers nose pretty well… I am not worried yet.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It has been a trip. I didn’t even listen. Just watched the game center on NFL.com.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i listened on the internet at the edge.com but watched the gamecast (live boxscore) on espn. its faster than the radio.
Also live postgame show right now on wedg.com
penalties are what worry me the most. Can't go from a 3rd and 2 to a 3rd and 7 on a consistant basis.
In the past we have been ok with the penalties but dumb things like that kill drives and wins in the NFL. u see peter king has us going 6-10? yikes!
Wow…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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