Poll: who should be Bills' starting TE?
The Buffalo Bills enter their pre-season finale with Detroit tonight with a decision to make at tight end. Jonathan Stupar has had an excellent pre-season, and many believe he should be made a part of the Bills' final 53-man roster this Saturday. It's still unclear whether or not the Bills will be willing to keep four tight ends, but Stupar - despite his pre-season success - is still decidedly fourth in the rotation.
Perhaps a more contentious debate is which of the Bills' top trio of tight ends - Derek Schouman, Derek Fine and Shawn Nelson - should be seeing first-team reps. Throughout the pre-season, it seems that every player has had a chunk of fans in his camp. So here's your poll. Go, and tell us who you voted for and why. Even if it's pretty clear that Schouman will start, we're still curious.
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Fine – I like his blocking and I don’t think you lose anything over Schouman in the passing game. Nelson’s blocking, while progressing, still wants me to keep him in the slot/split end role and occasional blocking.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I went with Schouman just because Fines’ injury.
But Nelson I think is too green for a starting TE. definately slot roll for him and on passing downs
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by J2 on Sep 3, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Brian for the article
Obviously I voted for Fine, as I have been ranting off in several other posts. He is a better blocker, bigger, taller & Stronger than Schouman and he seems to be equal or better in the passing game.
I really like what we’ve seen from Nelson so far in Pre-Season, his blocking skills are superior than I thought they would be. He clearly is putting a lot of heart in it and I can easily imagine him being the starter by year and or at least sharing the spot with Fine. His receiving skills are so much superior to all three others that it’s not even fair to compare.
TE1: Fine TE2: Nelson TE3:Stupar Schouman-out
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we need a tall pass catcher besides TO…a real playmaker…if “Starting” you mean in there to block on running plays, maybe the two other guys you could argue would be better, but they would be spur little or no worry with LBs on opposing defenses in terms of pass defense. I have seen little from Fine or Schouman in the preseason in terms of pass catching….Nelson needs more opportunity, and I think will be splitting time with them even if he doesn’t get the start. I just want to see him more
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I voted for Nelson only because of Fine’s injury. If Fine was 100% then he gets the nod from me. Schouman does nothing for me. His blocking is okay and I would rather see Nelson getting practice and missing then just watching Schouman miss consistently…
I agree with keysh on his line up
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I suspect y’all will chastise me for it, but I voted Schouman. I don’t trust Fine – he’s not as polished as everyone makes him out to be, and he seems to be an injury risk. Obviously, I’m voting for Nelson long-term, but right now, I vote Schouman almost by default.
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I think Brian’s comment summarizes why the TE position might still be nonexistent this year…
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Not non-existent. Just by committee.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted Schouman
not because he is our best TE, IMO that is D. Fine as of right now, but Fine is injured and S. Nelson is simply not ready yet, ask me again at the bye week and my answer will prob be Nelson.
by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 3, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you are entitled to your opinion.
The funny thing about polishing is that a players needs playing time to get polished. If a player has proven to not learn from his errors – that’s one thing but if a guy with less experience, shows the flashes of high potential, then responsibly the coaching staff should be given that athlete every opportunity to hone his skills and get polished!
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Are you talking about Nelson? Because I think the coaches would be wise not to put too much on his plate this year. Let him accrue some success doing the things he already does well, and give him some opportunities in 2 TE sets to hone his blocking. I believe this is what their plans are.
But to put all of the starting TE blocking responsibilities on Nelson right now would be, IMO, irresponsible on the part of the coaches.
I’m no fan of this coaching staff, but I’d have to say what I’ve seen of their expectations of Nelson are exactly how I would use him this year.
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if you mean Fine (as far as lack of polish), I guess I don’t see what else they can do at the moment, given that he’s injured.
Honestly, it seems like a funny time for this poll, because with Fine injured, there’s no way anyone besides Schouman will be the starter. Nelson and Stupar have shown great abilities so far, but not to be the starters, IMO. And Stupar isn’t even on the poll.
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Since we are discussing the TE position here, I’d like to add a vote of confidence in Stupar making the 53 man roster come Saturday. I kow the Bills tried this method and weren’t very sucessful in the past, but what about getting rid of the FB position (again), and keeping all FOUR TE’s especially utilizing the no huddle approach?
My fear here is that if we ‘try’ to keep Stupar on the PS, that another franchise will indeed grab him. I’d MUCH rather see McIintyre go, than Stupar any day. Having YOUNG good TE’s on this roster will make it VERY interesting in years to come.
Keeping in mind that Fine is injured again, it’s nearly the same as having three TE’s anyway in spite of taking up a roster spot. (Schou, Nelson, Stupar) minus Corey Mac.
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i’m “fine” with Fine.
Schouman is too much of a similar theme for my interests at TE. The team needs a change and Fine at least brings a bit more panache (and speed) to the position to go with his slightly larger frame.
The best thing about Schouman (well, aside from that goat) is his blocking. But what good is that if it means he stays in and Edwards has one less passing option?
I can’t lump Nelson in here as the main TE until I know the team envisions the TE position like the Chiefs, Giants, Redskins, and Chargers did/do. He’s someone who I could envision taking playing time away from Hardy this season.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
Fine
Fine gets my vote only because Stupar isn’t an option. I know I’m crazy he has been a bright spot for this team this preseason.
Why not Bobby April?
doesn’t suck as a blocker
Says who?
And who said the others sick at blocking? Fine is superior and Nelson is quickly proving that he is more than able as well..
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Schouman is a strong player at the primary skill we want in our tight ends: pass receiving. Nelson meets this category but he is a weaker blocker than Schouman, thus eliminating him. Fine is a better blocker, but this being the secondary skill in my mind, it is less important than his inferiority at receiving to Schouman.
by Dyl on Sep 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think any of them are that much better than the others
each seems to excel at things the others dont. therefore im not gonna vote for a “starter” as much as i think it should be a committee type thing until nelson becomes a more polished player. the worst thing jauron and the coaching staff can do is keep their “guy” in just because hes the “starter” when another player on the team is more suited for that specific play. so yeah, no vote, i think the coaching staff should plug and play all of them in the correct situations…
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To me it doesn’t really matter who starts as long as we have the right TE on the field for the right situation. Fine is a better blocker, Nelson a better receiver and Shouman is pretty good at both. That isn’t to say they will never throw to Fine but you would expect to see more of Nelson on obvious passing downs and in the red zone.
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Nelson - he's the future, now
Shawn Nelson is the future TE for the Bills; I think that is obvious at this point. Since he is prepared to step in and contribute now it is in the Bill’s best interest to give him the experience. I expect a few rookie mistakes but I think that those will be worth it to get the Bills to the point where they have a pro-bowl caliber TE.
Do people really think Nelson is ready to be a starting TE for us this year?
First he’s really green in the blocking department. Second we haven’t even seen him against the # 1s in a real full game. How can we proclaim he should be the starting TE? Are the other TE’s so bad that he should be given the position by default without proving anything against the 1s during the regular season? I know the Dereks haven’t proven a ton either – but at least they’ve played. Nelson could be a bust in the blockign dept and only become a receiving TE.
I think more evidence is needed before we say he’s our starting TE.
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JUST DO IT
AT THIS POINT is anybody ;s game I hope that who ever it is just catch the ball runs well with the ball , does not drop passes HOPEFULly HE can block to AND dont be a sissy sasler blober for a blocker, AND that when his number gets call use him dont put guys IN THERE yust to go up and down the field WE NEED A BAD ASS ( TE ) THAT CAN push people around and does not get punk out when game time is on. that WHO I WANT TO SATRT THE SEASON THATS not to much to ask JUST DO IT LETS GO BILLS THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME

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