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The Buffalo Bills have lost seven consecutive games against AFC East division rivals.  They are 1-2 this season, and despite flashes of excellent play (against some quality opponents, I might add), Buffalo's fan base is right back to its fickle pre-season state.  Morale is low.  Desperation for a win is high.  The Miami Dolphins are 0-3, and their veteran leader, QB Chad Pennington, was just placed on Injured Reserve.

Needless to say, this is a game the Bills can win - and if they truly consider themselves contenders, it should be a game they win with ease.  But skepticism towards that expectation is certainly warranted.

Miami is coming off of a 23-13 loss to the San Diego Chargers - a game where Pennington left, replacement starter Chad Henne struggled, and Joey Porter left with a hamstring injury.  In order to get the freshest intel on one of Buffalo's most heated rivals, I sat down with John from Bolts From The Blue (SB Nation's Chargers blog) for the scoop.

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My questions are in bold - there are only two of them - and John's responses immediately follow.

Describe, if you will, your objective opinion on Chad Henne's brief appearance in San Diego's 23-13 win over Miami.

Chad Henne played scared.  Really scared.  From my notes, I saw only one pass from him that went further than 10 yards in the air, and that was on 3rd & 10 on a pass to Ronnie Brown that was only caught because Ronnie Brown is awesome. (He turned around and caught a high pass while falling backwards out of bounds.)

He was also inaccurate.  Not so inaccurate that he was throwing easy interceptions, but inaccurate enough that 6-yard curl routes were not being caught.  He had no touch on his passes and was rocketing the ball at his receivers, even though he refused to throw a deep pass.

Henne made a rookie mistake that led to the "pick six" for Eric Weddle.  He came back to the receiver, which was his second read, and held onto the ball while staring at the receiver (Davone Bess) and waiting for him to "get ready".  He played like a QB that had no faith in himself and no faith in his receivers.  If I was Miami, I'd be starting Pat White.

How did Miami's pass rush look getting after Philip Rivers?

Really dangerous with Joey Porter, who played the first quarter and some of the second before leaving with a hamstring injury, and nothing spectacular without him.  Porter and Jason Taylor are a dangerous tandem if they're both playing and both healthy, and Miami's defensive linemen aren't too shabby either (Kendall Langford dominated before Porter left).  Then again, the Chargers were playing without two starting offensive linemen, so we may have made them look better than they really are.

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One quick note: I spoke with Matty I from The Phinsider yesterday - and as usual, you'll hear all of his thoughts tomorrow - and he views Porter's chances at playing Sunday as 50/50.

The fact that Henne is playing, and Pennington is out, makes me a tad nervous.  Not because Henne is a scary quarterback - seriously, we just shut down Drew Brees - but because his presence takes Miami's offense from a known commodity to an unknown commodity.  Aside from the Wildcat and the fact that the Dolphins will still be a run-oriented offense, Buffalo should literally prepare to see any and all types of route combinations on Sunday, because you can bet Dan Henning will play to his new starting quarterback's strengths - just as he did with Pennington.  Mixed looks and varied pressures will be the name of the game for Perry Fewell on Sunday.

As for Miami's pass rush - well, let's just say that given how inconsistent Buffalo's offensive line is right now, living, breathing human beings pose a threat as pass rushers.  Even without Porter, the Dolphins have solid players rushing the passer.  If he plays, it will be a massive test; if he doesn't, it's still something to be concerned about, because Buffalo still hasn't proven itself capable of consistently beating the blitz, and Miami knows it.

We'll get much more from Matty I tomorrow, but John's intel (some if it's rather harsh, eh?), while not earth-shattering, re-affirms that this goes beyond 'must-win' territory for Buffalo - it's 'should-win.'

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Chad Henne played scared. Really scared. From my notes, I saw only one pass from him that went further than 10 yards in the air,

I know i’ve heard of QB’s scared of throwing the ball downfield – I just can’t remember who……
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by J2 on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha. reading his assesment of Henne was bittersweet. It sounds like we can have a great day on D against the pass but at the same time everything he said reminded me of Trent. COME ON TRENT DONT BE A HENNE.

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would have been the same way with Pennington taking snaps.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me help you out... his name is Trentative Checkwards!

Here’s to hoping for some downfield action Sunday!

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by Sluss88 on Sep 30, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the first play has to be a play-action to Lynch with TO down the field going deep. It would be perfect. With Lynch’s return you know they know we want him to get touches and a play-action first play I think would be wiiiide open.

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget TO going deep – I want to see him working some slants and being moved around.
I think the new line up should be Trent as back up QB with Freddy as QB and Lynch as the #1 RB – I think that solves everything, now we have a chance to have all our star players touch the ball :P

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by Ghetts on Sep 30, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt mind seeing Moorman running the WIldcat for us. Wouldnt that be something to see. Having a punter run our offense haha

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually when i typed that it sounded dumb… but hes not a normal punter. Hes an athlete and they always say that athletes find there way onto the field. Plus hes fast as hell. Doubt it would ever happen but ya never know… Imagine Moorman and Lynch running an option similar to what Vick ran his first play last week.

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t like the Moorman idea at all. He’s way too valuable to put out there against a pass rush. Did you see the collision he endured on that TD pass?!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 30, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TO used to score a lottt of touchdowns on dallas that were caught on a slant 6 or 7 yards from the line of scrimmage and then run for 50 or 60. USE HIS TALENT

by quantumuprising on Sep 30, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TO doesn’t want to get smacked around in the middle like he would be if he were to run slant routes.

by tpsabres on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. So… does anyone have anything to say about the Dolphins? :)

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

obviously we have to gameplan against the Wildcat because of the QB situation… but saying we gameplan and then executing are 2 different things. Do you see us playing a base 4-3 to try to defend or switch things up alot on D? Probably depends on who is going to be able to go with our walking mash unit defensive backs…

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya – if we don’t beat this team minus it’s starting QB and best pass rusher then this season might as well be over as far as playoffs.

These next two games are not must win games, they are games that we should win no problem if we are playoff calibre. If we are anything other than 3-2 in 2 weeks then we know what we have

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by J2 on Sep 30, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely agree. They shouldnt be labeled as “must win” because if we are FOR REAL then these are obvious winable games

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playoff caliber?????? We should be the Fins in their current state without question

If not, we are officially bottom dwellers.

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I for one am a little worried, especially if porter plays. He made us look silly last year.

Also, with Henne at QB, i’m worried that we start to see a little of Pat White – which could be a very bad thing for our much maligned linebacker core.

by quantumuprising on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Porter’s status is important for sure. If he plays the Fins D could have their way with our offense.

by Berg79 on Sep 30, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah Porter pretty much did whatever he wanted to against us last year. I wont shed a tear if he misses this game.

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction: he made Jason Peters look silly last year.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 30, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, ,and peters was a pro-bowl LT. you feel better have bell or chambers against him? that could be a bloodbath.

by quantumuprising on Oct 1, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-3 means nothing going into this game.

This game is a step to the playoffs, more than many others. If you predicted a 4-2 record against the division then the last thing we would want is to start out 0-2 in that regard. I am not calling it a must win, because there is still 12 games left afterwards, but if you are a serious playoff team then you need to win against your division. Any sentiments that are left from the Patriots game needs to be shown this Sunday. 0-3 means nothing, the dolphins will be well prepared for us. Henne will not be the focal point in this game, it will be Brown and Williams on offense and the dolphins pass rush against trent. I want to see alot of touchdowns this week but it very well could be one of those 3 -4 field goal games per team. Divisional opponents hate each other, this game will be played as such. We no what we have without Marshawn Lynch in the line up, we need to find out what he can bring, being off for three weeks is no excuse, he was our redzone threat last year, he needs to produce immediately along with FJ and Trent to his receivers. The dolphins will come after Trent like there is no tomarrow for them. For a bills fan this is a must see game.

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by VanScottM on Sep 30, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fickle?

I think calling a lot of the Bills fans “fickle” at this point is a little harsh. “Realistic” might be a more accurate description. You have to remember this team has had, I think, only one winning season in the last 10-11 seasons! It’s understandable if many fans aren’t exactly optimistic or think “here we go again.” It’s understandable.

To pick this team to have a winning year each season or to win each week is just plain stupid, and when fans get upset over losses…..so what? They haven’t abandoned the team. By Wednesday, all is forgotten and it’s “Go Bills!” once again. That’s a great thing about this website – you can vent, and then move. By the way, you’ll always have some people who want players traded immediately for one bad game – but just ignore those and don’t take them personally.

by ccthemovieman on Sep 30, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

… would it have worked if I’d said “understandably fickle?”

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha

I like that! I’ve rooted for the Bills for 50 f-ing years so I tend to be pessimistic, but after venting for 24-48 hours after a loss, it’s out of my system. Brian, I just wouldn’t take some of the dumb remarks people make (i.e. “Cut Edwards Immediately!”) personally or lump them in with all the negative comments. Many of us like to “cry” about a loss but we aren’t fickle – we’re there rooting every week.

Hey – can you imagine the comments here if Rumblings was around during the 1-13 and 2-14 seasons?!!!

by ccthemovieman on Sep 30, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think calling a lot of the Bills fans "fickle" at this point is a little harsh. "Realistic" might be a more accurate description. You have to remember this team has had, I think, only one winning season in the last 10-11 seasons!

You are just being fickle.

Look it’s real easy, when the Bills lose, fans come out of the wood work and gripe. If I offer a counter point to their gripping, I am looking through rose colored glasses and you are just being realistic. When the Bills win all the moaners and groaners mysteriously disappear. That is being fickle.

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by sireric on Sep 30, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahaha.....not all of us disappear when the Bills win

I can remember K, myself, and probably a few others pointing out red flags when we were 5-1 last season. Sure we got killed for it, but unfortunately we were vindicated in end :-(

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of you guys will never go away I guess…..j/k(maybe)

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by sireric on Sep 30, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you removing your pants can't scare me off, nothing will :-)

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by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I still can’t figure out how that hasn’t scared you away…Or I’m just afraid to think of what else it might mean….

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by sireric on Sep 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only that I am a man of great intestinal fortitude

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by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe you are also a fan of going pants-free!

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by Kurupt on Sep 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You wouldn't say that if you read my sig :-)

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by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm assuming pants-free doesn't also mean underpants-free

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by Kurupt on Oct 1, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is the case for me, I can’t speak for Joe however. He might just be a fan of going commando.

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by sireric on Oct 1, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I still can’t figure out how that hasn’t scared you away…

One of the many blessings of the “virtual” aspect of the internet.

I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.

by thefourwinds on Oct 1, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think you better check the definition

of the word. Fickle (syn. – capricious) implies wavering back-and-forth. I’m never shy about praising any of the Bills who are doing well but tend to be more vocal after a tough loss. I stick to my pre-season predictions in any sport, good or bad. I’ve always loved the Bills, but that doesn’t mean I can’t be critical or be honest and predict them to have a losing season. Some people get mad at that, thinking you’re not a fan unless you predict them to win each year. No, too many fans speak solely from the heart, not the brain. What I don’t like are “bandwagon jumpers,” people who only root for a team when they’re winning; then disappear when the team starts losing. You see that with every team. Stay loyal to your team but be allowed to criticize without being labeled “moaners and groaners.”

by ccthemovieman on Sep 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as per Definitions.com:

fick⋅le
–adjective
1. likely to change, esp. due to caprice, irresolution, or instability; casually changeable: fickle weather.
2. not constant or loyal in affections: a fickle lover.

Definition 2 is bolded by me. I believe that is what you just described as a bandwagon jumper. There for both term work and all three of us, you, me and Brian are all correct here.

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by sireric on Sep 30, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okie dokie

It’s the old half-full, half-empty outlook on things. It’s a tough balance. I try to be objective, even as a big fan, meaning not let my heart dictate what I see and how I analyze things……but it’s good to hear all points of view – positive, negative and in between.

by ccthemovieman on Sep 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Cameron Wake has done anything for them yet…

We absolutely have to get after Henne and force him to beat us. Sure he’s an unknown, but he looked bad last week and I’d rather take my chances with him trying to beat us. Let him rifle in inaccurate passes over the middle, as I’m sure we’ll get our chances for turnovers. We must gear up to shut down their run game and the Wildcat wrinkles.

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by Kurupt on Sep 30, 2009 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

what do you feel is the best way to defend against the Wildcat? Because honestly i dont know..? Do we send them or sit back and react?

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think for the most part, you either run blitz or sit back in run defense…i don’t know the actual numbers, but the percentage of plays that miami passes on out of their wildcat is considerably low.

by quantumuprising on Sep 30, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The wildcat is not scary

unless the person taking the snap is a legitimate threat to both run and pass the ball. Defend the run and knock the regular QB’s junk in the dirt if he lines up wide.

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah in no way would I say we should be scared of it but with them being 0-3 and pennington out this could be Pat Whites coming out party and he is a legit double threat… unproven in the NFL but definately in college. I highly doubt they dont try some new stuff because a loss here for the Phins would be devestating for their season

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

White could develop into a throwing threat, but I doubt it is this Sunday....he is to green.

Key on the run and make White beat us with the pass. I will take those odds any day.

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by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that. Regaurdless of whose in and where they’re lined up our D better show up.

by bflo on Sep 30, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that doesn’t mean Miami won’t pass with him out of the Wildcat this weekend. I fully expect them to pass from the formation this week to take pressure off Henne and because they’re going to be desperate.

~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Henne is the starting QB, and therefore should be better than White at QB.

White has very little experience throwing the ball at the NFL level as well. If we can handle him, we deserve to lose.

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by Joe P. on Sep 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Out of the wildcat

 Pat White has enough value and ability that they could have him throw some passes this week. He threw one in week 1 and I expect him to throw again this week. It doesn’t matter if Henne is the better QB, White will be in the game for the Wildcat, not normal formations…

~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 1, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed, my point was that I don't fear White as a passer even in the Wildcat.

Yes, he could throw a pass to hurt you, but he is at least as likely to throw a bad pass we can pick off. I will say it again…..stop the run.

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by Joe P. on Oct 1, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m relieved we’re not going to see Chad Pennington. Pennington to Ginn was death for Buffalo last year. Yeah, we’re going from known to unknown, but when the “known” is known to be a good player, why prefer that? Henne’s not going to light anybody up. And like you said, Brian, we just showed the world that Brees is human. Hakuna matata.

Their pass rush, however, has me lying awake at night. We are down to our fourth and fifth offensive tackles. Against New Orleans’ underachieving defensive line we looked bad enough. Against J Taylor and Porter, it’s mortifying.

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by Dyl on Sep 30, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Throw away line in Dolphins-Chargers game

Dan Fouts (I think) made the comment during the game that Pennington’s injury had forced the team to use Henne—which meant the team couldn’t use Pat White. Fouts said further that Pat White was a ‘big part’ of the game plan for Miami. Look for heavy doses of Pat White this week.

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by Ron From NM on Sep 30, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they couldn’t use him because of QB rules – if white came in (as the third string guy) then they wouldn’t have been allowed to bring henne back in.

by quantumuprising on Oct 1, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

White will be the second string this week I believe. I doubt they would put Thygpen in at #2 with only a half week’s worth of practice.

by bflo on Oct 1, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, White was the 2nd string QB last week.

Henne was listed as the emergency QB.

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by Chupathingy on Oct 1, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. And once you put in the emergency QB, the other QBs can’t play. White was the active number 2 so he could take snaps and not force Pennington from the game but everyone knew if Pennington was hurt it would be Henne going in.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 1, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GO BILLS!!!!

Beat the hated Dollfish this week, smoke Cleveland next week (I’m driving home from TN to the game) and we’re back at 3-2 and contending. Lynch back, hopefully some healing injuries, Poz back in a few weeks, and hopefully some smarter Offensive playcalling that get Lee and TO involved in 7-15 yard patterns which will eat up huge yardage and open the deep strikes (although they are already there).
GO CAPTAIN CHECKDOWN!

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 30, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's funny to hear you guys calling yoru fans fickle

Because I literally wrote an article yesterday on The Phinsider about fickle Dolphin fans and not giving Henne time to develop as the starter…

Also, my only real question was…What Dolphins pass rush? Oh, you mean the one sack each that Porter and Taylor have. Yeah, our pass rush is killing people right now!

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