Poll: Where do you stand with Bills' firing of Schonert?
by Brian Galliford on Sep 8, 2009 8:31 AM EDT
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PrintYou've had a holiday weekend to let the firing of former Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Turk Schonert sink in. We've covered the story from all of the key angles. There are several relevant points that we have discussed:
- The timing of the move obviously was not great, and is the single biggest worry of the entire situation. New coordinator Alex Van Pelt is in the midst of a ten-day stretch in which he's charged with coming up with an offensive game plan to beat New England on Monday Night Football.
- Despite the timing, the move probably needed to made - the offense wasn't going anywhere given the philosophical differences between Schonert and head coach Dick Jauron.
- The move was made for the above reason, but it was also made to make starting QB Trent Edwards more comfortable. You can't give a young quarterback mixed signals, and he was getting exactly that from Jauron and Schonert. Now he'll have a unified philosophy - and a team-effort game plan - to work with on Sundays.
- Owner Ralph Wilson summoned Jauron, Van Pelt, Eric Studesville and COO/GM Russ Brandon to his home in Detroit to clarify Jauron's reasoning behind the decision. Jauron told assembled media over the weekend that it was a productive meeting and a good day, but let's not pretend that Wilson didn't re-affirm to his football hierarchy exactly where they stand.
Considering these angles, plus any that you, the reader, consider as well, it's time for the obligatory poll.
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I’m just not sold that this wan’t more “marketing” – we seem to have, once again, switched from one underqualified underperformer to the next.
Personality-wise, I’m much happier with AVP – but I don’t expect him to make a huge difference if he was promoted because of his fealty to Jauron or whatever.
I just want us to beat the 10.5 spread on MNF. Keep it close and I’ll get an AVP tattoo for cryin’ out loud.
It doesn't matter what level your at
You need to have a small number of plays that you are really, realy good at. We had nothing in the redzone that we were good at except for the team we were playing’s defense. Small to me would be a dozen.
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Turk “Scoring Before Halftime Is Overrated” Schonert was a bad pick by Jauron from the outset. Jauron was too concerned with consistency to see Schonert’s shortcomings. True to form, Jauron stuck with a guy—Schonert in this case but you could just as easily throw out names like Fowler and A-Train—when it was clear that he wasn’t getting the job done. Loyalty is only a virtue when applied to those who are deserving of it.
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I voted yes
If this poll included “and replacing Turk with AVP” I might have answered undecided at this point.
"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"
Completely Agree – had to get rid of Turk – replacing him with AvP we will have to see
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Similarities between AVP and Turk
The other thing that bothers me about AVP stepping in, is that all of the positive things we have to say about him: he’s a former QB, he’s a players coach, he already knows the system, the players seem to favor him, etc..are all of the same reasons we talked ourselves into thinking the Turk hiring was a good idea in the first place….
"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"
Undecided
I’m not really sure what to thing. You hear Schonert’s comments and it sounds like Jauron to a T, simplify the offense, blah, blah. I would find it hard to believe that Schonert would lie about that and kill any chance he has at getting another job in the NFL. The test will come the season when we see what plays are called and in what situations they are called. I still believe that Jauron would rather lose a close game then become aggressive and potentially lose because of that aggressiveness. It’s called a loser’s mentality.
Lets go AVP, make DJ proud for canning Turk for you, I'm a 100% behind the move
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Impact on the o-line
I think lost in all of the talk of a simpler, slimmed down playbook is the potential benefit to the offensive line. Not only are a bunch of these guys (the two rookies and Bell) making the huge leap from college to the pros, but almost all of the them are learning new assignments based on their new positions. Maybe the potential upside of this “revised” offensive philosophy wont be as great for the o-line as it will be for Trent, but I would imagine all of them are breathing a bit easier with their new lighter playbooks.
by Squirmin' Thurman on Sep 8, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
Edwards comfortable
Edwards won’t be comfortable if he’s spending every week on his back. All these moves should have/could have occured in January after the last game and should have included one more move- dumping Dick. His lack of decisiveness as evidenced by these last minute “moves” is a huge part of the problem. Why was he “on Schonert’s back” all off season and through training camp and then pulls the trigger at the worst possible time?
Would any of us who screw up and go nose-to-nose with “the boss” have a job after one month, let alone nine (or more)? The move is correct, the timing terrible!
Next we’ll hear that we’re losing because all the changes take time to be absorbed, the line needs to gel. blah, blah. Then Edwards wll get hurt and so on…
We waited 9 months for this?
Why cut Langston Walker in January? Why not give him a shot to make the team? Why could he not have regressed.
His lack of decisiveness as evidenced by these last minute "moves" is a huge part of the problem.
I think it shows extreme resolve, especially the Schonert one. Are you referring to Rhodes as the third? The worst time would be waiting into the season.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 9, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
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