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It sure does seem that this is a lot of our troubles in the past decade. Donohue, Levy, Brandon all couldn't get the right head coaches, players, system, etc... It will be interesting to see if we ever can get a strong football mind running the ship again in Buffalo. Polian, Butler, even AJ Smith were the last we've seen of this type.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 9, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

And slowly it leaks out….

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So this is the first I heard of this guy, but what makes us

believe that the Bills would make a move to bring in a guy like this? Give us a nugget to make us look forward to the future.

There are a lot of much better player pro personnel guys out there than what we can say we have and nothing has been done to improve our situation in years. Do we have to make this guy GM to get him. Why can’t we make up some Asst. GM title or VP of something title to get a real football guy in here. Modrak and Guy probably need to step aside quick!

by dabillsr1 on Sep 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wouldn’t be coming in today or anything… We would have to make him GM to get him and there is nothing wrong with that. Let Brandon handle the marketing and Decosta handle the football players. It would probably necessitate the termination of Guy and Modrak…

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 10, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this article is dead on in terms of the problems we’re seeing right now. I also think Brian’s mentioning a talent evaluator like Eric DeCosta hones in on the point even more: this team has had a plan (more than some teams can say), but hasn’t been able to evaluate players correctly, leaving the team without the firepower to execute their plan. It also means that injuries in past years to players like Schobel and Edwards have impacted the team more greatly than they might have otherwise.

I’m usually much more of a lurker on this site, but I had to comment on an article that I felt made a specific and important point about the team. Should things go awry, I really hope that some new sets of evaluating eyes will be brought in.

That said, I still have some hope that Trent and TO will manage to carry us somewhere this season and am excited to see what we have in our promising rookies. Very excited for football season to start… go Bills!

by Bills in Boston on Sep 9, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

This sums

it all up. There is no plan, there is no identity, there is no system. And all of it is because Ralph Wilson ultimately undermines it all and has too many people in that building from 10 years ago that have made a MULTITUDE of costly mistakes.

It IS INDEED going to be a looooong 2009 season in Buffalo and it hasn’t even started yet.

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by MARVelous on Sep 9, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Lombardo Has it Exactly Right

I’m ancient enough to have been around during the 1980s and 1990s when the first thing that came to mind about the Bills — whether they made the playoffs or not in a particular year — was that they were a well-run team. I’m a critical sort due to my professional training but I don’t remember second-guessing the team very much in those days. The moves they made all seemed to pass the test of common sense.

No longer. Ever since the departure of Butler and Smith and the arrival of Donahoe and his gang this team has given the impression that it is clueless — at least by comparison to the days of Polian and Butler and Levy, which is what I naturally measure things by. What the Bills need more than anything else, IMHO, is a strong and football-savvy GM who can then hire an equally strong HC (no HC worth his salt is going to come to Buffalo if there is no clearly-defined GM to report to). Russ Brandon may develop into such a GM eventually, but he badly needs the chance to apprentice for a while under a GM who knows what he is doing. Until that happens I suspect we are going to see a lot more frustrating years in Orchard Park.

by Macktruck on Sep 9, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Butler never did that great of a job when he was here. Go back and look at his drafts and teams he assembled. They aren’t better than anyone since.

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should clarify

Butler never did a great job as GM. He was great working under Polian who, as three teams have seen, is the best in the business.

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree- It's all about the plan

Take the Levy-led Bills: the early direction was “take the best player available” prior to Levy and Polian. They hit on Kelly, Smith, Talley, Reed, and Reich.

The 1987 off-season was all about the LB’s for the defense. 1988 came Thomas, and 1989 came Beebe.

After that, with the Bills doing well, each draft was about filling holes, mainly in the secondary and the OL.

Now
What type of offense do we run? It’s not no-huddle, that’s just a tempo variation. Are we a run team or a spread? On defense, are we straight, vanilla 4-3 or Tampa 2?

Once we figure out what we want, we can draft talent to fills the spots. I think it’s going to take a really good organizer like Shanahan, or maybe Gruden, to return to glory.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m ancient enough to have been around during the 1980s and 1990s when the first thing that came to mind about the Bills — whether they made the playoffs or not in a particular year — was that they were a well-run team.

This sounds like some revisionist history to me. I remember the Bills all the way back to the mid-70s, and people were complaining about Ralph Wilson 35 years ago. The only time in the Bills history that they were generally considered a well-run team, was during the Super Bowl stretch and just before it, and even during that time, they couldn’t shed the “Bickering Bills” moniker.

Wouldn't it be ironic if this team imploded and it had nothing to do with TO?

by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Past Drafts

Exactly. For a while now, the Bills have been especially horrendous at evaluating talent in the draft. We routinely overvalue talent that doesn’t pan out (e.g., John McCargo) and undervalue college players who become stars. We leave the rest of the league and outside experts scratching their heads. It’s depressing to consider what could have been.

In fact, if the Bills just used Mel Kiper’s Draft Board rather than their own list, we’d be better off!

(Also, the fact that some of our picks have turned into productive players doesn’t indicate that the Bills know how to conduct the draft well. If you have an early pick, chances are the player you pick will contribute. But the relevant comparison isn’t [the Bills with the drafted player] v. [the Bills without the drafted player]; rather, the comparison should be [the Bills with the player] vs. [the Bills with the player who should’ve been drafted].)

by Flutie Flakes on Sep 9, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Free Agency too

I don’t believe we have done well here either. Our latest OL cuts and non-resignings since last off-season is proof of that. It was very interesting to see the Bills this past off-season in Free Agency. I have to believe we had more people walk through OBD than any other team. Very few people signed… why? Not to say that all players are offered a contract, but why are we “kicking the tires so much” Don’t we have enough of an idea to know who is going to fit into our team and who is not before they come to visit? Do we have to really know if they or their agent will give us a “Buffalo Discount”? To me a plan for direction should be identified the week after the season is over, then every move that needs to be made after that season should all point to executing that plan accordingly so that come week 1 of the following season we are the most prepared to play. To me this is an indictment of the General Manager or President of the organization. Ours is worried about selling tickets and regionalizing the team. This team would have so much support and make so much money if they just WIN.

by dabillsr1 on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold on a sec… they identified a need at WR. Coles came in and then signed a huge contract in Cincy. We ended up with a Hall of Famer in Owens.

They identified a need at LB and brought in a bunch of guys who they didn’t like better than Ellison… I can live with that. Pisa was in town and took similar money to play in the vaunted Bears linebacker corps. He was probably the only guy worth signing. Then they took Harris in the draft.

They identified a need at LT and moved their best tackle, Walker, there as a placeholder for a guy they thought was going to be very good in Bell. The process was accelerated when Walker proved incapable and Bell came on faster than people thought. They also considered taking a tackle in the draft but none were worth the price of moving up.

They upgraded the entire interior of their OL by drafting two rookies in the first two rounds and signing a very capable reserve-starter in Hang.

They identified a need at RB and signed Dominic Rhodes after Fred Taylor took an offer from the Patriots when he wants to get a ring…

That seems like a proactive team to me and not at all what you describe.

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by MattRichWarren on Sep 10, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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