Four potential Bills coaching interviews to ponder
The search for the next head coach of the Buffalo Bills continues, and as the search enters its second full week, the interview process is expected to pick up steam. With Buffalo only having conducted two interviews to this point - one with Perry Fewell and one with Leslie Frazier - Buffalo needs to pick up the pace in the spirit of due diligence.
Peter King of Sports Illustrated reported that the Bills would try to conduct interviews with four or five more candidates this week. Here's how it works: assistants working for the 24 teams that are not currently still playing football can be interviewed at any point. Names such as Sean McDermott, Mike Zimmer and Mike Nolan - all of whom have been mentioned by different reporters, by the way - fall into this category.
Also, any assistant working for teams that ended playoff bye weeks today - Indianapolis, San Diego, New Orleans and Minnesota - cannot interview for openings again until their team has been eliminated from the playoffs. That means that the Bills missed their window to interview Ron Rivera, though not for lack of effort, as Rivera reportedly turned down interviews in both Buffalo and Seattle. It also means that Frazier cannot hold a second interview with GM Buddy Nix until Minnesota is done; Frazier is the obvious leader for the job at this point.
Four teams won playoff games this weekend, and all four teams have one assistant coach that has directly or indirectly been linked to the Bills' job opening. Those men can be interviewed this week - and then not again until their teams are eliminated from the playoffs. This is the area which Buffalo is expected to work quickly this week, and at least three of the four names after the jump are considered serious contenders for the job.
The hottest and most oft-mentioned name at the moment is Brian Schottenheimer. The Jets' offensive coordinator is the son of Marty Schottenheimer, whose close relationship with Nix is frequently brought up. That relationship is expected to give Brian Schottenheimer an "in" for the job, should he be interested in it. Jets head coach Rex Ryan seems resigned to the fact that Schottenheimer will be coaching elsewhere in 2010, adding fuel to the fire of speculation. Schottenheimer and the Jets won on Saturday but don't play until the late game next Sunday, giving the Bills and Schottenheimer an extra day to try to get an interview together. Schottenheimer has gone on record as saying that he's happy in New York, but would probably listen to any offers that came his way.
Arizona assistant head coach and offensive line coach Russ Grimm has been linked to the job as well through multiple outlets. Grimm, who played on a legendary Washington line and cut his teeth as a coach under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh, reportedly rebuffed Buffalo's initial attempts to talk with him, according to John Murphy. Buffalo is expected to formally request permission to interview Grimm this week, which, of course, either the Cardinals or Grimm can decline.
One name starting to be bandied about is Dallas offensive coordinator Jason Garrett, once one of the hottest coordinators in the sport, and whose star is beginning to rise after four straight weeks of dominant football in Big D. Garrett's name has only been mentioned in passing at this point, and there have been no indications that Garrett ranks anywhere on Buffalo's mythical coaching list. Garrett is the league's highest-paid assistant coach, making $3 million annually working for Jerry Jones.
Finally, Baltimore offensive coordinator Cam Cameron has loosely been linked to the job, but again, unlike Schottenheimer and Grimm, there have been no reports indicating that the Bills are serious about interviewing him. Cameron is the only coach on this short list with head coaching experience, as he got fired after one 1-15 season in Miami. Cameron gave indications last week that he won't be interested in talking head coaching opportunities until after the season, so even if Buffalo were to approach him this week - and again, there aren't any indications they well - Cameron may well turn them down.
Buffalo may intend to interview multiple candidates this week, but they may not get their wish on all fronts. The team, meanwhile, appears to have struck out in attempts to woo Cowher, so their list at this point appears to be exclusively coordinators.
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They’ll likely interview one more guy (Mike Nolan or Cam Cameron) and then hire somebody like Leslie Frazier or Brian Schottenheimer and try to sell that to the fanbase. Good luck, Russ, selling that awful product.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 11, 2010 8:55 AM EST reply actions
You should read the post Brian did on BSchott. I’d be ok with him.
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 11, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
I think Brian Schott will be head coach or assistant head coach
and Marty will be HC. Its a safe choice for Nix, they want a quick turn-around.
I fully expected to log on and see the meeting with BSchott was taking place this afternoon.
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I thought you can’t interview coaches that are still in the playoff’s.
by IronEagle119 on Jan 11, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, you can. Any wild card teams that win can interview this week, and then not again until they’re eliminated. First-round bye coaches could interview last week, and then not again until the playoffs are over. Those are new-ish rules.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
A correction
I believe the rules allow for a second interview if the team is headed for the Superbowl in the first of the two weeks before that game. So if the Vikings win the NFC championship, for example, the team could meet with Frazier again at that time.
Also, I’m pretty sure that it was not possible to contact any coach whose team was scheduled to play in the Wildcard round before this coming week, so the reports that the Bills did call Grimm or Brian S last week only to be rebuffed were simply incorrect. Neither has “refused us” yet for the obvious reason that neither has had the chance to do so.
Finally, Mark Gaughn seems convinced that Jim Harbaugh is in the mix, but that there will be no public indication of that whatsoever due to the sensitive nature of his situation (he is currently in the midst of trying to recruit kids for Stanford). So it is very possible that Harbaugh has already been interviewed or that he will be this week, but we won’t know anything about it unless they decide to hire him and he accepts the offer.
The report on Grimm was that he would turn the Bills down when the call eventually came. That’s from Clayton at ESPN.
The Schottenheimer “report” doesn’t exist, not insofar as actual interpretations of an event go. Schottenheimer said he was happy in New York and would probably listen to offers if they came – and that’s ALL he said.
Yes – you’re right about the Super Bowl week interview. I had forgotten that.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Your story above cites a report from John Murphy that Grimm “initially rebuffed” an attempt by the Bills to talk to him. That’s what I was referring to. Murphy is clearly wrong because we can be sure Nix didn’t violate league rules by trying to contact Grimm last week. But I agree with you. I’ll be very surprised if Grimm is interested for the reason you state.
However, I guess I’m more optimistic than you are that Nix is getting a relatively free hand to conduct his search (though I have the impression Brandon is joining him, which is fine). I don’t think Ralph will be involved until the final stage. And frankly I’m pretty happy about how things are going. It appears that Nix is making excellent choices on the candidates he is targeting and that we will end up with a very good HC (most likely Frazier, Brian S., or Harbaugh). That, combined with the fact that we have a very sharp and experienced football guy making our personnel decisions in Nix, suggests to me that we are going to be in MUCH better shape than we have been during the past decade. Why is everyone so gloomy this morning?
Yes, the Murphy report seems off. I neglected to mention the Clayton report, which WGR 550 cited this morning. My bad.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
A reporter could have asked Grimm about it last week and he just said “not right now” or something. Who knows?
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Schottenheimer
Tim Graham has another story up about him today
Its not full of your typical “no comment” kind of quotes….
“I’d love to be a head coach, but I say that with an asterisk,” Schottenheimer said. "That’s my dream, but I want to be a head coach when the time is right, when the situation is right. I don’t want to just take a job to take a job.
“For the first time in three years, I’m really, really happy. I’m happy working for Rex. I love the area. I love the Jets fans. I love what we’ve done. I love the guys on our roster.”
“In the past couple years, I’ve been looking [for head-coaching jobs] and hoping it works out,” Schottenheimer said. "This year is totally different. I’m in a really happy spot in my life.
Obviously, that could all be him just saying the right things, but it also really sounds like genuine interest/desire to stay in NY than take a bad head coaching job like Buffalo…Hmmm
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hahahahaha this is great news!!
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Besides Garrett, a very uninspiring list of names
In my opinion. Although Grimm at least would bring an identity and attitude.
It blows my mind that Ralph, by all indications, is finally willing to spend some money on a HC, and it’s still not good enough for the “elite” candidates. How depressing.
Brian, what brings you to think that the Bills are def not getting Cowher? New information?
I really like the idea of Russ Grimm.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
You like the idea of Grimm when compared with Cowher/Shannahan/M. Schott/Gruden?
Or you like the idea of Grimm when compared with B. Schott/Frazier/Rivera?
Or put another way, do you now like the idea of Grimm because your expecatations have been lowered recently, or when you dream of the best possible coach we can get, does Grimm rank top 2-3 still?
by StroudFanClub on Jan 11, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I like Grimm, period. He’s a no-nonsense guy that commands respect. He was a borderline Hall of Fame guard with a mean streak when he needs it. He’s got the mentality I want my team to have.
I have levels. My first level was a guy with experience being a head guy and recruiting assistant coaches like COwher or Billick. My next list is guys like McDermott, Grimm, and other assistant coaches. So far the Bills haven’t been linked to a name I dislike except Cam Cameron. Some are better than others but Grimm is certainly acceptable.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
They’ll ask Grimm for an interview, and he’ll tell them no. Grimm will be 51 in May, and given his age and the fact that he’s probably only going to get one shot to be a HC, he’ll wait for a more stable situation. He won’t be here, and I’d be willing to bet the same goes for Cameron in the remote chance he gets an interview request (48).
Meanwhile, Schottenheimer is 36 and Garrett is nearing 44. They’re both young enough, IMO, that if they fail here, they’ll have time to work their way back up to a different HC job, because they’ll always be viewed as bright assistants.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
No, not really new information. The information’s been out there for nearly a full week now. It’s just not, and never was, going to happen.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Why was it never going to happen?
Cowher was a head coach in the NFL. The Bills currently are looking for a head coach, and they have had conversations with him. That right there would indicate that you can’t say for sure that it would “never happen”, right?
Has he come out and said he is for sure never going to be a head coach in the NFL again? Why is it so crazy that Buffalo could get a “big name”?
by StroudFanClub on Jan 11, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
It’s got nothing to do with “big name” or any of that garbage. It’s just not a good situation for Cowher from a work environment standpoint. The personnel is weak and would need a large overhaul because of his philosophies, the team and Mr. Wilson have a less-than-sterling reputation, and the turnaround would not be quick. Cowher is looking for a much more stable environment.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention, if Cowher was interested he would have signed a contract already.
The coaching search is just like dating…. if you ask someone out and they give you a lukewarm response, and never make contact with you again they’re not interested, and they won’t be no matter how many times you contact them.
Brian..
Any inside scoop on Jim Harbaugh? You hearing if the Bills talked to him? I know PFT said he was a potential “stealth” canidate.
You hearing anything different?
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 11, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
The longer his name lingers as a “stealth” candidate, the exponentially less likely it is that he even talks to the Bills about the job. He’s a college coach, and they’re right in the middle of a critical recruitment period. It would have to happen VERY quickly, and I just don’t see it as anywhere near likely that Harbaugh gets a serious look.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
plus I firmly believe just from listening to the guy talk that he wants to prove he can win a Pac-10 title with Stanford before he leaves.......
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
i just really
wonder who is calling the shots here. Buddy Nix, Russ Brandon and Ralph. I mean I still don’t truly believe that Buddy Nix has 100% say. Which is less than desirable. I think Harbaugh is the guy…he’s well worth taking the chance.
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If the Bills aren't going to get Cowher, Harbaugh is the best option
with Garrett as the 2nd best option after Harbaugh. Please tell me the Bills wouldn’t be turned down by these 2 as well….
by StroudFanClub on Jan 11, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
That’s the thing. I think Ralph picked a qualified candidate to be his GM, but he needs to let him do his job. Brandon shouldn’t be part of the process, either, at least not on an every-interview basis (i.e. if he wanted to try to talk to Cowher, that’s fine, because it’s different, but there’s no need for him to talk to Leslie Frazier).
Mr. Wilson has to sign off on everything, and he does things in a very strange manner. That’s the biggest issue right now, because there’s not a soul in the league that isn’t keenly aware of that fact.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's
the truth. The fact that Nix hasn’t made any FO decisions yet (hiring/firing personnel men), just tells me that he is eating out of Ralph’s hand. I just don’t think change is happening here, it’s still the same old deal where Ralph is calling the shots and keeps on meddling. So I can’t get behind this Nix thing. Ralph calls at the shots at OBD. What’s amazing is how Bill Polian/John Butler ran this ship in the 90’s. I guess Ralph has just gotten bitter and fearful ever since
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The thing is, people will hate Nix, but it ain’t his fault – this would have been the situation if the Bills had hired Eric DeCosta or any other “big name” GM candidate. It’s just the way Ralph works. If Nix does well picking a good coach and bringing in players in the draft, it will have been a step forward for the franchise, no matter which way you slice it.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
this and your comment
above that the league is keenly aware of Ralph’s “quirks” frames the situation perfectly. We cannot expect the white knight to ride in anytime soon – if ever.
There is always someone for fans to hate. It’s set up that way. The “fall guy” if you will but no one can fire Ralph (except God) Until that firing takes place, we will continue to be dysfunctional and mediocre at best.
That’s not true either. Nix hit the nail on the head, and so did Ralph (ironically) – it will take a tremendous amount of luck for this team to be good again under Ralph’s watch.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
either way the end result
is the same. We ain’t goin’ nowhere for a while. Some say you make your own luck. In which case, Ralph is good at whipping up a batch of bad luck.
Great we all agree now that Ralph is the problem and is one of the worst owners in the NFL. Just sell the team, Ralph, and let a capable owner take over the team.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 11, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t agree with that.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
it will take a tremendous amount of luck for this team to be good again under Ralph’s watch.
Ut oh.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not assigning
blame to Nix. It is just the way Ralph works. But hiring someone he is familiar with, living in that comfort zone, and keeping the FO in tact is going to do nothing but lead to similar results unless Nix can just procure talent like no other. I just heard on WGR this morning that Sullivan said that it was Ralph’s call on drafting Marshawn Lynch bc he wanted to replace McGahee so badly. If Lynch is a Bill next year I’d be surprised at this point
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I wouldn’t be surprised, especially now hearing that from Sully. If Wilson wanted him, he’ll most likely want to see him perform a bit more for that 10 mil guaranteed.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Don't let Lynch see that $20...
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by Ron From NM on Jan 11, 2010 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
BA ZING.........
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I know you’re not blaming Nix for anything – he hasn’t done anything yet. But there will probably come a time when Buddy Nix’s name is mud, and everyone will pile on him the same way Dick Jauron was piled on. Some of it will be deserved, but once again, it will be overlooking the main problem.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
gotcha
I defended Jauron for 4 years, hopefully Nix will get one winning season to help out the cause. Depending on who they hire as HC, I feel way better just knowing at least we have a GM
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the main problem.........
being Ralph.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
He has a time constraint for hiring a head coach. He can fire Modrak and Guy whwnever he wants. If the free agency period starts with John Guy as head of Pro Personnel, then get mad. Until then you can lay off the “Status Quo” argument.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Pioli
dont forget he did not fire personel people until after the draft and then he brought in his people. It makes no sense to fire them now with 90% of the work done for the draft. This is standard procedure for new GM’s.
This is somewhat accurate. There’s not an urgent need to overhaul the front office – not before we get a head coach in place, at any rate.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Did you just say there’s not an urgent need to overhaul the front office?! Why do you think this fanbase has had to live with awful results for now a decade? Because of our butt-awful owner and his crappy front office. I say fire everybody and let Buddy find some new guys in here, because the local pizzaman would do better job than John Guy, Jim Overdorf and to a lesser extent Tom Modrak.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 11, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
First of all, Jim Overdorf does an excellent job. That’s one of the oft-overlooked points from the Donahoe era – Buffalo has been out of salary cap trouble for many years now. That’s an area that John Butler did not do so well with this team.
And you misread my point. “Urgent” is the operative word, and I meant it in the sense that they can work on getting a head coach in place before evaluating the folks up top, like Guy, Modrak and yes, even Overdorf. The point wasn’t that it doesn’t need to happen, just that it doesn’t have to happen right away.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
OK, but to me they need to fire Modrak and Guy at the very least; how can it be that Ralph continues to complain about how awful Tom Donahoe was, yet he still keeps his assistants around?! John Guy must be one of the worst Director of Pro Personnel-people in the league. Modrak hasn’t exactly been slick, either, with way too many misses. In terms of Overdorf, I would rather sack him just to purge OBD of the old ways of suckitude. Of course, then we would need to purge OBD of Ralph Wilson, which unfortunately is not less than likely…
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 11, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
So you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Why fire guys who are doing a good job? The Ravens kept Marvin Lewis when they fired Ted Marchibroda and Lewis’ defense led them to a Super Bowl. Overdorf is good. I don’t care when he joined the Bills.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
From what I'm gathering
And hearing, and reading, we should all be shocked if anyone other than Leslie Frazier get’s this job. Nobody is painting a pretty picture of the front office and Mr Wilson.
So much for the “overhaul” and new “vision” that seemed we were promised after Jauron got fired.
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 11, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
So much for the "overhaul" and new "vision" that seemed we were promised after Jauron got fired.
It’s not surprising to me. For as much of the fanbase that’s discontented with the organization as a whole, why would any of the highly touted, historically successful candidates want to jump into this lake of manure.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
and the ultimate act to raise the discontent further after all this conjecture will be for the Bills to say, “we’ve had the right guy here all along, please welcome our new coach – Perry Fewell”.
Ala Nix, where we could have named him GM last January when he arrived. The charade continues.
If the coaching hire is less-than-desired (even if unfairly so), what’ the over/under on how long it takes for “fans” to raise billboard money asking Wilson to step down?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
They won’t have a chance to hire Fewell if he becomes Chicago’s defensive coordinator today or tomorrow – and by all indications, that’s exactly what should happen.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I hope he does get the job. Not to keep him away from the HC position in Buffalo. I like Fewell and I think it would be a great move for him.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
He is a quality talented individual. My only knock is that he is not what the team needs NOW. Sort of like drafting for a position vs. best available player. You know, like taking Maybin instead of Orapko, Cushing or Oher…
Maybin instead of Orapko
Don’t do it. It’s a hot button here and there’s really nothing to compare their play on. Orakpo wasn’t going to be drafted as a LB for Buffalo. He’d have suffered the same “fate,” one can imagine.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hehe. It’s okay. It’s just that there’s a little group here that loves to jump on the organization for the pick. I know you’re not one of them and i’m not the police. Carry on!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
clarify
Harbaugh would be my choice. Who “the guy” is for the bills? Who the heck knows! Hopefully they will get a few interviews done this week
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Harbaugh is still very possible. We are simply not going to hear anything about him one way or the other because of his situation at Stanford. But that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been interviewed or isn’t under consideration.
If a retread loser ...
like a Nolan or Cameron is hired, I will literally be sick. Of course, it’s totally plausible and should be expected under Ralph’s watch.
It’s hard to envision this team winning any time soon, at least until Ralph stays out of decision making or we have a new owner….
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I hate to agree
but I think you are right about Ralph. When did you ever hear of so many people turning down a coaching oppportunity. Guys usually will take any job knowing it might be their only chance and the Bills are getting turned down. It does not say much about the orginization. Heres hoping Frazier can turn it around as he seems to want the job.
I think the organization would see the error of their ways too late. Ticket sales would prove their mistake.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I absolutely agree; always expect the unexpected with old Ralph.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Jan 11, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
I usually have this in my head when thinking about the current situation, overall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blwBvrFQy-Y
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
to tell you the truth K
I’m already sick. We are in the second week of looking for a new coach and everyone’s saying Cowher’s not going to happen. I’ll tell you what else, we aren’t paying Jason Garrett 3+ mil a year so that ain’t happening either.
If we have to resign our fans to “re-tread losers” or unproven coordinators then I’m going to stop caring about the head coaching search. I’m not saying I don’t think our next coach will have success, I’m just saying I’m not going to care if Buffalo is the only job in the country that was unappealing to proven winners.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
I agree 100%.
In the span of just today I think I’ve gotten myself to the point where I don’t care who they end up hiring. Maybe it just finally hit me that we aren’t playing in the same league as other teams in the NFL. I didn’t want to think that the NFL was like the MLB, in the fact that certain teams start off the year knowing they don’t have a chance at the playoffs due to the amount of money they are willing and able to spend, but that’s the conclusion I’m drawing today, only the Bills can’t seem to compete because of many different circumstances.
by StroudFanClub on Jan 11, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
thats exactly right
If after a decade of losing, with an owner willing to throw 10 mil a year and part ownership of the team, and looking for a coach during the hottest experienced, winning HC off-season in recent memory the Buffalo Bills couldn’t land one of the top guys then it finally confirms one of two things:
1. City of Buffalo is a national joke, the team the Buffalo Bills are a national joke, and Bills fans are national jokes to the point that we are unwanted even when we are the only job available and thus we will never be able to land the top guy even if we wanted him more and offered more than anyone else – including free agents players. Other small markets like Green Bay and Jacksonville don’t have this problem and terrible teams like the Cleveland Browns and Kansas City Chiefs wouldn’t have this problem.
or
2. Our owner is so clearly someone that nobody in the league wants to work with that we can’t assemble the best staff available to try and stop the losing. The catch 22 is that we love Ralph becomes he keeps the team in Buffalo and seems to care about the fans. Either way, it has been exposed that Ralph is someone no one wants to work with and the players on this team will realize that as will their agents – continuing our slide into being the most undesirable place to play.
Thats why I’m going to stop caring. This whole search proved to me that it wasn’t just the national media that ridiculed Buffalo – its an actual feeling held by the league and its hurting our chance to win which just isn’t right. Essentially, I’m being asked to suck it up and smile and pat Russ Grimm on the back when he shows up when instead I was just kicked in the jewels and told my team wasn’t good enough for the top dogs. Even the Cleveland Browns don’t get disrespected like this.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
by poz on Jan 11, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
yikes...............
serious this is so very sad…….but so very true…
Its time for some cake……..I think.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
What's with you and cake?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It's how I cope OKAY?!?!?!?!!?!?
Dont judge me :p
LOL :-)
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 12, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Rec'd.....I feel exactly the same. Could landing a HC be part of what Nix meant about having to get lucky?
Also, I think it could be an “and” rather than an “or” situation.
For those of us who wish Cowher would accept the Bills HC job, I recently heard some good advice....."You can crap in one hand and wish in the other, and see which one fills up first..." - Burgess Merideth
It is possible that being disqualified for the “big dogs” may force the bills to truley think outside the box and bring in someone not on the radar with radical views or may force ralph to let go of control. A wake up call if you will. We are not much diffrent than the saints, cardnals or bengals from a few years ago.
by B-LO RUMBLE on Jan 12, 2010 1:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I will be extremely disappointed if Jason freaking Garrett becomes our HC..........
While I applaud the guy for his creative offensive philosophy I find it extremely hard to not be successful with the talent the guy gets given on a yearly basis………I have no confidence whatsoever that would be able to “lead” a team………….while he can most certainly call a good game…….we need a HC who inspires and leads his team………not just a hot shot cooridinator who has flashes of brilliance one year followed by fits of inepititude the next………..
Anyone on that list other than Garrett PLEASE!!!!!!
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 11:17 AM EST reply actions
Don't be so quick to judge Garrett
just look what one of dallas’s did for New Orleans, though I still like Billick, any word on him? hey. anybody read the Donovan Mcnabb idea. think there’s a chance?
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 11, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Sean Payton was a much better leader of men.............
thats why he is successful in NO………….Garrett doesnt pass the “leader” eyeball test to me.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Some news on Marty via Jay Glazer
Yesturday, I asked Jay Glazer via Twitter whether there was any movement on the Marty Schottenheimer front.
My tweet:
@Jay_Glazer With Cowher being a no-go, any word on Buffalo possibly convincing Marty to take the reins?
His response:
@jri111 Marty & Nix talked last wk. 2 are tight, but it wasn’t so much to hire him but more to talk shop. Another name I’d look at is Nolan
John I.
Mike Nolan?
uh……..please…….no……
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Of Mcnabb being QB I mean, not coach
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 11, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. We don’t need Seattle’s mess.
Buffalo Rumblings Premiere League 2009 Champion
"Am I a hero? I really can't say, but yes - I am." --Michael Scott
MP3 recommendation of the week: Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
?????
How is Mike Nolan Seattle’s mess?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
My bad. I have Jim Mora Jr. on the brain. He absolutely isn’t Seattle’s mess. Shoot, now I have to find another reason to dislike him as a candidate.
Buffalo Rumblings Premiere League 2009 Champion
"Am I a hero? I really can't say, but yes - I am." --Michael Scott
MP3 recommendation of the week: Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
how about the horrible job he did at SF...........
and the collapse of his Defense during his time at Denver this season…….
His teams seem to start fast and collaspe for some reason.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Although, I wouldn’t hold that Denver collapse against him too much. That’s not exactly a talented unit.
He was a terrible HC in SF though. That’s the major problem.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It would be funny to see him dressed in a suit during a blizzard, though.
Buffalo Rumblings Premiere League 2009 Champion
"Am I a hero? I really can't say, but yes - I am." --Michael Scott
MP3 recommendation of the week: Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose
I’d rather have a good head coach that dresses like a slob!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Hah. Yeah, i’ll take a good head coach that dresses like Freddie Mercury any day of the week.
Buffalo Rumblings Premiere League 2009 Champion
"Am I a hero? I really can't say, but yes - I am." --Michael Scott
MP3 recommendation of the week: Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Come on. A unitard with chest exposed on gameday?!
Buffalo Rumblings Premiere League 2009 Champion
"Am I a hero? I really can't say, but yes - I am." --Michael Scott
MP3 recommendation of the week: Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
While highly comedic
the league doesn’t need another reason to laugh at the Bills. King and Schefter I’m talking to you.
Isn't that the Buffalo Elvis guy?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Well he was alright as young Elvis.
He kind of freaks me out as the older Elvis though.
Question: Where Is Haslett?
Unless I missed it, I haven’t head any rumors – and there have been tons as we all have read here – about the Bills talking to Jim Haslett. I’m not saying “he’s the man,” but he is certainly worth interviewing. In the last 3 weeks, I’ve heard about every name out there but Haslett’s………anyone know why? Just curious. Thanks.
Only time I’ve heard his name was as a possible DC in DC.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 11, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
It's a mystery
particularly in light of the fact that he is a popular sports figure in Buffalo. Not even a rumor about him coming back here, or one interview? Come on, man…….this is crazy.
by ccthemovieman on Jan 11, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
After watching the Ravens run all over the Pats
I’m actually kind of liking Cam Cameron as a potential Head Coaching hire. His Offense is perfect for Buffalo.
Head coaching is more about leadership...........
not being able to call a great game………..Bring in a guy who can lead and motivate……..and then let Cameron have full control of the offense………..and then look what you have?
A formula for success.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
He's a very, very good OC
But wow, was he overwhelmed as the Dolphins HC.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Keep in mind that he also had to play with Cleo Lemon.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
And helped lead the drafting of Ted Ginn...
It doesn’t really matter to me who he had at QB, his leadership and inability to win over that team are what I don’t like.
It’s not like he’d have much better quarterbacking here any time soon, unless the Bills get really, really lucky somewhere….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Exactly...........
his leadership and inability to win over that team are what I don’t like.
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Gotcha. You meant “overwhelmed” from a team standpoint, and not a 1-15 standpoint.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Overwhelmed in leading a team
The 1-15 doesn’t mean much to me, but looking like a total boob as a HC does.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’ll admit, his bold post-draft proclamation that Dolphins fans would one day revere Ted Ginn rubbed me the wrong way. He wasn’t wrong about Brady Quinn, though.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 11, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
He was able to do things with a Rookie QB and find success.........
a Rookie who played Div 1-AA ball no less……..
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I know he and agree he was overwhelmed as the Dolphins HC
He just seems to me like a guy who learns from his mistakes.
and he seems to me like a guy who should stick to what he knows........
and be the OC………much less stress than being the Head Guy……….
Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. - Peter Gibbons
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 11, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
My sentiments exactly!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I think the league figured Martz out.
Buffalo Rumblings Premiere League 2009 Champion
"Am I a hero? I really can't say, but yes - I am." --Michael Scott
MP3 recommendation of the week: Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 11, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Most definitely not
I want nothing to do with that guy!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I was being facetious with Mike martz.
I was actually serious about Cameron though.
The catch 22 is that we love Ralph becomes he keeps the team in Buffalo and seems to care about the fans.
“LOVE” as in kinda like the wife who sticks with her husband even though he regularly beats the crap out of her.
He only abuses us emotionally
Im relatively certain I could take Ralph in a fight lol
yeah, doubt he’d pay anyone to you for him:) What about Billick?
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 11, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions

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